Project: Mulligan

Biggs · 11-11-2007, 09:23 PM

what size tank is that? a guy told me he likes his smaller bottles better because they compress faster. If thats the case then why would you use a bigger tank?

Biggs · 11-11-2007, 09:24 PM

haha **** sorry i posted the same thing twice, i didnt think it sent.

Bad94 · 11-11-2007, 10:01 PM

About time you put those arms on.

Also if you go to stock spindle let me know, if you need a set and what u want for ur drop spindles, i need a set of them.

s10cyncrvr · 11-11-2007, 10:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nox

Opinion time: should I go ahead and bust the retainers out of the UCA bolts and install them with the bolt head on the inside, or leave them as is? How should I get the retainers off?

I also have to decide if I should put the passenger side back together or take apart the driver side next.

The bolts and the mount are splined, so you can't put the factory bolts in going the opposite direction. One thing you can do is to drill out the splines on the upper control arm mount with a 1/2" drill bit. Then install a 1/2" Grade 8 bolt with the head facing the engine. I just got done doing this myself. The only problem is it'll be a little tougher to shim the arm when doing alignments. My arms don't use shims though, so it was a no-brainer.

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Biggs

what size tank is that? a guy told me he likes his smaller bottles better because they compress faster. If thats the case then why would you use a bigger tank?

5 gallon tank, it fills quicker than a 12gal, but a 12 gal will last longer before you have to run the compressors.

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31

Go for RE7s and stock spindles. You'll still lay on your inner fenders like you did before with stock arms (except that you'll have the SD arms now) but you'll get 2"+ more lift and more negative camber when layed. The arms can be a bitch to get off but a lot of times you can hammer or pry on the thread end of the cross shaft studs and pop them out towards the outside of the frame, then the arm just lifts up and off. The retainers only keep them from spinning...they don't hold them into the frame, the rust that builds up in there does that haha

what is re7? 2500 sized or 2600 sized?

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr

The bolts and the mount are splined, so you can't put the factory bolts in going the opposite direction. One thing you can do is to drill out the splines on the upper control arm mount with a 1/2" drill bit. Then install a 1/2" Grade 8 bolt with the head facing the engine. I just got done doing this myself. The only problem is it'll be a little tougher to shim the arm when doing alignments. My arms don't use shims though, so it was a no-brainer.

good to know. i guess I'll have to think about it some more.

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Bad94

About time you put those arms on.

Also if you go to stock spindle let me know, if you need a set and what u want for ur drop spindles, i need a set of them.

i'll let you know. I think I'm going to try it out with drop spindles and go from there.

dimerunner88 · 11-11-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nox

where were you? was looking forwarding to meeting you since Slamology was a rainy bust.

Here's pics from the show:

can't believe i missed this one, i think i'm riding shotgun in this pic if its when we were all leaving but i dunno since i don't see the other losers behind ya

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:08 PM

i think you are in there.

dimerunner88 · 11-11-2007, 11:11 PM

get them arms on yet?

geneticrider13 · 11-11-2007, 11:17 PM

whats the diffrence or advantage of wiper arms off an Astro, sorry if that sounds like stupid question

dimerunner88 · 11-11-2007, 11:18 PM

you can shave your washer squirters, the squirters are built into the astro arms

geneticrider13 · 11-11-2007, 11:23 PM

ahhhhh, ok, i've never seen that done before, now im kinda wishing I knew that before I had just got paint, damnit!

nox · 11-11-2007, 11:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88

you can shave your washer squirters, the squirters are built into the astro arms

bingo.

do you get more lift with 2600 sized bags or 2500s? I thought I read somewhere that a 2500 could max out the suspension, it just takes a higher pressure than a 2600?

dimerunner88 · 11-11-2007, 11:54 PM

the bigger the bag,the less pressure to get the desired lift which gets you a better ride

dimerunner88 · 11-11-2007, 11:55 PM

i believe thats the main benefit to the larger bags

Slow01S10 · 11-12-2007, 12:42 AM

what year astro wiper arms did you get?

layinbody31 · 11-12-2007, 01:01 AM

RE7 is a 2600 sized bag. 2500s will max out STOCK ARM suspensions. With aftermarket arms like SDs which have the Power Performance balljoints and better angles on everything a 2500 will be maxed out before the suspension is topped out. A 2600 sized bag usually has about an inch more travel than a 2500 sized bag. That means 2 more inches of travel at the wheels. Technically you can fit a 2800 sized bag in there which gets another inch of travel over a 2600 so you can get 4" more lift just from goin that route. If mixed with stock spindles you could be lookin at 6" more lift up front than what you get right now, and at about 1/3 the pressure you're puttin in them 2500s right now. Your upper bag cup will have to be pretty damn small though haha

dimerunner88 · 11-12-2007, 02:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31

RE7 is a 2600 sized bag. 2500s will max out STOCK ARM suspensions. With aftermarket arms like SDs which have the Power Performance balljoints and better angles on everything a 2500 will be maxed out before the suspension is topped out. A 2600 sized bag usually has about an inch more travel than a 2500 sized bag. That means 2 more inches of travel at the wheels. Technically you can fit a 2800 sized bag in there which gets another inch of travel over a 2600 so you can get 4" more lift just from goin that route. If mixed with stock spindles you could be lookin at 6" more lift up front than what you get right now, and at about 1/3 the pressure you're puttin in them 2500s right now. Your upper bag cup will have to be pretty damn small though haha

i have an all steel v-8 in a first-gen i'm planning on baggin. iwas planning on running the 2600's,does that sound like it would ride pretty good or should i go with the 2800's? i plan on doin this only once.

i read through the prject thread where you bagged nox's truck and you seem like a knowledgeable feller

nox · 11-12-2007, 07:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 01S10Man

what year astro wiper arms did you get?

I dunno, it was light blue and smashed all to shit.

dawgnutz · 11-12-2007, 12:35 PM

Nice truck man, I just read through this one. I had been reading your old thread and now am all caught up. LOL!

Slow01S10 · 11-12-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by nox

I dunno, it was light blue and smashed all to shit.

what? you bought junk yard stuff? j/k man, if they are in good shape and cheap, why not
was it one of the more squared earlier models or the round later model astro?

nox · 11-12-2007, 06:59 PM

i think it was an older one. Aren't all astro's the same? (As far as wipers are concerned)

They need to be repainted and they need new blades, but its just a wiper right? How beat up can it get?

dimerunner88 · 11-12-2007, 07:04 PM

so you gonna be rockin the new arms for the meet?

nox · 11-12-2007, 07:34 PM

negative. having no front suspension is going to damper that.

dimerunner88 · 11-12-2007, 07:54 PM

hmm,ic that would be a downside

layinbody31 · 11-13-2007, 12:45 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88

i have an all steel v-8 in a first-gen i'm planning on baggin. iwas planning on running the 2600's,does that sound like it would ride pretty good or should i go with the 2800's? i plan on doin this only once.

i read through the prject thread where you bagged nox's truck and you seem like a knowledgeable feller

2600s would be just fine, but if you want a really low ride height pressure that will ride really soft/smooth like a caddy, then do the lil extra cutting required for 2800s. However, the only 2800s I personally would run on the front of an S10 would be a Slam RE8

dimerunner88 · 11-14-2007, 07:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31

2600s would be just fine, but if you want a really low ride height pressure that will ride really soft/smooth like a caddy, then do the lil extra cutting required for 2800s. However, the only 2800s I personally would run on the front of an S10 would be a Slam RE8

cool,nox found a great deal on some RE-7's so i'l prolly get those and stick with them for awhile

11-11-2007, 09:23 PM	#151
Biggs Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 185 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan what size tank is that? a guy told me he likes his smaller bottles better because they compress faster. If thats the case then why would you use a bigger tank?
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11-11-2007, 09:24 PM	#152
Biggs Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 185 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan haha **** sorry i posted the same thing twice, i didnt think it sent.
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11-11-2007, 10:01 PM	#153
Bad94 Static> Bags Age: 23 Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 2,604 Location: Cincy User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan About time you put those arms on. Also if you go to stock spindle let me know, if you need a set and what u want for ur drop spindles, i need a set of them.
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11-11-2007, 10:49 PM	#154
s10cyncrvr Canyon Carver Age: 28 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,793 Location: Columbia, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by nox Opinion time: should I go ahead and bust the retainers out of the UCA bolts and install them with the bolt head on the inside, or leave them as is? How should I get the retainers off? I also have to decide if I should put the passenger side back together or take apart the driver side next. The bolts and the mount are splined, so you can't put the factory bolts in going the opposite direction. One thing you can do is to drill out the splines on the upper control arm mount with a 1/2" drill bit. Then install a 1/2" Grade 8 bolt with the head facing the engine. I just got done doing this myself. The only problem is it'll be a little tougher to shim the arm when doing alignments. My arms don't use shims though, so it was a no-brainer.
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11-11-2007, 11:01 PM	#155
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by Biggs what size tank is that? a guy told me he likes his smaller bottles better because they compress faster. If thats the case then why would you use a bigger tank? 5 gallon tank, it fills quicker than a 12gal, but a 12 gal will last longer before you have to run the compressors.
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11-11-2007, 11:03 PM	#156
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31 Go for RE7s and stock spindles. You'll still lay on your inner fenders like you did before with stock arms (except that you'll have the SD arms now) but you'll get 2"+ more lift and more negative camber when layed. The arms can be a bitch to get off but a lot of times you can hammer or pry on the thread end of the cross shaft studs and pop them out towards the outside of the frame, then the arm just lifts up and off. The retainers only keep them from spinning...they don't hold them into the frame, the rust that builds up in there does that haha what is re7? 2500 sized or 2600 sized?
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11-11-2007, 11:05 PM	#157
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by s10cyncrvr The bolts and the mount are splined, so you can't put the factory bolts in going the opposite direction. One thing you can do is to drill out the splines on the upper control arm mount with a 1/2" drill bit. Then install a 1/2" Grade 8 bolt with the head facing the engine. I just got done doing this myself. The only problem is it'll be a little tougher to shim the arm when doing alignments. My arms don't use shims though, so it was a no-brainer. good to know. i guess I'll have to think about it some more.
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11-11-2007, 11:05 PM	#158
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by Bad94 About time you put those arms on. Also if you go to stock spindle let me know, if you need a set and what u want for ur drop spindles, i need a set of them. i'll let you know. I think I'm going to try it out with drop spindles and go from there.
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11-11-2007, 11:08 PM	#159
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by nox where were you? was looking forwarding to meeting you since Slamology was a rainy bust. Here's pics from the show: can't believe i missed this one, i think i'm riding shotgun in this pic if its when we were all leaving but i dunno since i don't see the other losers behind ya
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11-11-2007, 11:08 PM	#160
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan i think you are in there.
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11-11-2007, 11:11 PM	#161
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan get them arms on yet?
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11-11-2007, 11:17 PM	#162
geneticrider13 real names Chris Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Allentown, PA User is: Online	Re: Project: Mulligan whats the diffrence or advantage of wiper arms off an Astro, sorry if that sounds like stupid question
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11-11-2007, 11:18 PM	#163
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan you can shave your washer squirters, the squirters are built into the astro arms
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11-11-2007, 11:23 PM	#164
geneticrider13 real names Chris Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 695 Location: Allentown, PA User is: Online	Re: Project: Mulligan ahhhhh, ok, i've never seen that done before, now im kinda wishing I knew that before I had just got paint, damnit!
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11-11-2007, 11:33 PM	#165
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88 you can shave your washer squirters, the squirters are built into the astro arms bingo. do you get more lift with 2600 sized bags or 2500s? I thought I read somewhere that a 2500 could max out the suspension, it just takes a higher pressure than a 2600?
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11-11-2007, 11:54 PM	#166
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan the bigger the bag,the less pressure to get the desired lift which gets you a better ride
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11-11-2007, 11:55 PM	#167
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan i believe thats the main benefit to the larger bags
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11-12-2007, 12:42 AM	#168
Slow01S10 goin over the falls Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 775 Location: Niagara Falls, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan what year astro wiper arms did you get?
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11-12-2007, 01:01 AM	#169
layinbody31 Center your wheels! Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,180 Location: Griffith, IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan RE7 is a 2600 sized bag. 2500s will max out STOCK ARM suspensions. With aftermarket arms like SDs which have the Power Performance balljoints and better angles on everything a 2500 will be maxed out before the suspension is topped out. A 2600 sized bag usually has about an inch more travel than a 2500 sized bag. That means 2 more inches of travel at the wheels. Technically you can fit a 2800 sized bag in there which gets another inch of travel over a 2600 so you can get 4" more lift just from goin that route. If mixed with stock spindles you could be lookin at 6" more lift up front than what you get right now, and at about 1/3 the pressure you're puttin in them 2500s right now. Your upper bag cup will have to be pretty damn small though haha
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11-12-2007, 02:12 AM	#170
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31 RE7 is a 2600 sized bag. 2500s will max out STOCK ARM suspensions. With aftermarket arms like SDs which have the Power Performance balljoints and better angles on everything a 2500 will be maxed out before the suspension is topped out. A 2600 sized bag usually has about an inch more travel than a 2500 sized bag. That means 2 more inches of travel at the wheels. Technically you can fit a 2800 sized bag in there which gets another inch of travel over a 2600 so you can get 4" more lift just from goin that route. If mixed with stock spindles you could be lookin at 6" more lift up front than what you get right now, and at about 1/3 the pressure you're puttin in them 2500s right now. Your upper bag cup will have to be pretty damn small though haha i have an all steel v-8 in a first-gen i'm planning on baggin. iwas planning on running the 2600's,does that sound like it would ride pretty good or should i go with the 2800's? i plan on doin this only once. i read through the prject thread where you bagged nox's truck and you seem like a knowledgeable feller Last edited by dimerunner88 : 11-12-2007 at 02:14 AM.
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11-12-2007, 07:06 AM	#171
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by 01S10Man what year astro wiper arms did you get? I dunno, it was light blue and smashed all to shit.
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11-12-2007, 12:35 PM	#172
dawgnutz The Werk Truck Age: 28 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,846 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca. User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Nice truck man, I just read through this one. I had been reading your old thread and now am all caught up. LOL!
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11-12-2007, 06:52 PM	#173
Slow01S10 goin over the falls Age: 25 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 775 Location: Niagara Falls, NY User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by nox I dunno, it was light blue and smashed all to shit. what? you bought junk yard stuff? j/k man, if they are in good shape and cheap, why not was it one of the more squared earlier models or the round later model astro?
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11-12-2007, 06:59 PM	#174
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan i think it was an older one. Aren't all astro's the same? (As far as wipers are concerned) They need to be repainted and they need new blades, but its just a wiper right? How beat up can it get?
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11-12-2007, 07:04 PM	#175
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan so you gonna be rockin the new arms for the meet?
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11-12-2007, 07:34 PM	#176
nox World's Largest Drum! Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,935 Location: Westfield, IN (Indy) User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan negative. having no front suspension is going to damper that.
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11-12-2007, 07:54 PM	#177
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan hmm,ic that would be a downside Last edited by dimerunner88 : 11-12-2007 at 07:56 PM.
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11-13-2007, 12:45 AM	#178
layinbody31 Center your wheels! Age: 22 Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 9,180 Location: Griffith, IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by dimerunner88 i have an all steel v-8 in a first-gen i'm planning on baggin. iwas planning on running the 2600's,does that sound like it would ride pretty good or should i go with the 2800's? i plan on doin this only once. i read through the prject thread where you bagged nox's truck and you seem like a knowledgeable feller 2600s would be just fine, but if you want a really low ride height pressure that will ride really soft/smooth like a caddy, then do the lil extra cutting required for 2800s. However, the only 2800s I personally would run on the front of an S10 would be a Slam RE8
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11-14-2007, 07:55 PM	#179
dimerunner88 Bah Humbug! Age: 22 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 19,263 Location: Clay City,IN User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Mulligan Quote: Originally Posted by layinbody31 2600s would be just fine, but if you want a really low ride height pressure that will ride really soft/smooth like a caddy, then do the lil extra cutting required for 2800s. However, the only 2800s I personally would run on the front of an S10 would be a Slam RE8 cool,nox found a great deal on some RE-7's so i'l prolly get those and stick with them for awhile
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