Project: Metal Head

Oldskool94 · 01-30-2009, 03:10 PM

i really like the new wheels.looking good btw.

Innis · 01-31-2009, 01:33 AM

hey man, good thing to see some progress on this thing, cant wait to see it rollin soon, we will def have to cruise the beach when im home in the summer!!

curt_minke · 02-03-2009, 12:11 AM

more progress.

cleaned the shop, and finished welding the one rear frame rail..

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My aRM muscle locked and looked f''ed up so i snapped a pic...

looks broken

Wybrow · 02-03-2009, 12:27 AM

Damn man! Thats an ass load of welding...looks like your clearances are pretty well perfect though....job well done.

sonomaguy · 02-03-2009, 12:50 AM

Some very nice welding there, now get a new clear shield for the front of the welding helmet so you can see better.

sonomaguy · 02-03-2009, 12:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke

more progress.

cleaned the shop, and finished welding the one rear frame rail..

LOL, the fender looks kind of funny sitting out there with the wheel under it and no truck around.

curt_minke · 02-03-2009, 09:58 AM

Quote:

LOL, the fender looks kind of funny sitting out there with the wheel under it and no truck around.

lol yeah, i thought it was staring at me while i was welding so i snapped a pic of it too haha

Yeah it took me about 2.5hrs to weld and grind that one frame rail. and i still have to finish the drag arms.

rebels10 · 02-03-2009, 05:06 PM

i love the new wheels. and the work looks amazing.

reaper13 · 02-03-2009, 05:17 PM

looks real good man, real good

curt_minke · 02-04-2009, 09:19 AM

more progress.
I finished grinding the first frame rail and tacked the other one together.

And a couple drawings when i got bored.

Oldskool94 · 02-05-2009, 11:55 AM

i really like your truck it reminds me alot of mine. and sweet drawing i wish i could draw that good.

dragginbalz · 02-05-2009, 08:50 PM

I hope you don't take this the wrong way and I know it is a little late now, but next time you do these, you should fit the top and bottom caps so that they sit right inside the two side plates like this

(full or half open corner)

It will be a ton less grinding than welding it the way you did.

You can get a nice bead in the corner then just round over or square up the edge. Very little grinding, less weld removed. (I usually prefer the slightly rounded over edges as opposed to the perfectly square)

The rails and whole project look awesome! Keep up the good work!

t

iLLblazer · 02-06-2009, 12:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by dragginbalz

I hope you don't take this the wrong way and I know it is a little late now, but next time you do these, you should fit the top and bottom caps so that they sit right inside the two side plates like this

(full or half open corner)

It will be a ton less grinding than welding it the way you did.

You can get a nice bead in the corner then just round over or square up the edge. Very little grinding, less weld removed. (I usually prefer the slightly rounded over edges as opposed to the perfectly square)

The rails and whole project look awesome! Keep up the good work!

t

I looked at the pics and that was my first thoughts. You ground away the majority of your weld the way you did it, and made alot more work for yourself grinding.

dragginbalz · 02-06-2009, 07:53 AM

Thanks for posting an actual pic Joel. That is much better example than the drawing I found!!!

But that is exactly how I would do it. You just kiss the edge with a grinder and you are done.

t

curt_minke · 02-06-2009, 10:38 AM

ok guys,

First of all thanks for the tips... I take everything to heart from all you guys (and gals). But let me explain myself so you understand why i did it this way.

First of all, the reason i didn't go full or half open corner is becasue of the way i had to bend the material around the plates. It would be very difficult (especially cause i work by myself) to keep a constant half open corner to weld to and remember I only had 3/16 wall thickness to weld to. This could cause serious warping with the thickness of the material being quite thin, and not building a jig to weld it (because its obviously one off). Furthermore, when i tack the pieces together i now have a straight square edge. Now you may ask, how you can you get full penitration? Well see once its all tacked together, straight, and they way i want it i now take my grinder with a coarse stone disc and grind out a 37 degree angle on both pices till the material is about 1/16 (.0625) away from right through. Now i have my welder set to burn a full penetration weld in the "V" style groove i made. Then what is left for me as a "weld cap" above the surface which is what i grind off. Now the cap still may take extensive grinding, BUT the weld is fully penitrated and allows me to have a square edge.....

So now i have a fully welded frame rail with perfectly straight, square edges. This makes it 100 times easier to create my own fillet around the rail and not have to depend on the radius the weld made doing the half or full open corner weld. I have done many half open or full open corner welds were i have ground it smooth to a nice radius on the "dependant weld" but found that i have had to go back and add "weld material" to the radius were the weld would be less than the radius i was going for.

So in my prospective, with the goal i am trying to achieve, my way may take a little bit longer but in the end it makes it a hell of alot easier for my to grind my own radius and keep it square and uniform without having to touch up spots.

Wow that was long. ha hopfully you guys understand what im saying. Haha if not i made a drawing for you guys to understand better how i weld it.

Again thanks for your comments and concerns!!!!

curt_minke · 02-11-2009, 11:41 PM

rear rail welded

Kenny_Cox · 02-12-2009, 12:06 AM

that looks great.

$straightridah$ · 02-12-2009, 01:24 PM

theres a truck comin through the wall! wait, no thats just a grille. nice lookin rails.

curt_minke · 02-12-2009, 01:37 PM

lol haha thanks guys i should hopefully have that rail ground down tonight and should be able to cut the uglly ass back half off this weekend!

Oldskool94 · 02-12-2009, 02:18 PM

sweet we need more progress pics.haha

anALLSHOx · 02-12-2009, 02:54 PM

i know this might sound like a stupid question but is that a ball hitch receiver on the very front of the frame???

curt_minke · 02-12-2009, 03:01 PM

ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in.

Oldskool94 · 02-12-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke

ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in.

good idea thinking ahead.

anALLSHOx · 02-12-2009, 03:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke

ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in.

that's ingeniously smart, i always had to use a 4x4 piece of wood and 2 jacks..

Wybrow · 02-12-2009, 08:08 PM

Woot, progress! Get this shit done. I know, Im one to talk.

Innis · 02-16-2009, 10:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Wybrow

Woot, progress! Get this shit done. I know, Im one to talk.

shut up and go post in your own thread

man, progress is looking good, i was at home in kincardine all weekend i should have tried to get together with you for some drinks

ah well next time

Oldskool94 · 02-17-2009, 11:57 AM

progress is looking good.

curt_minke · 03-02-2009, 12:22 AM

PICTURE UPDATE! yEaH! rear rails are in!

Close2theground · 03-02-2009, 12:40 AM

Hell ya good work brotha ! nice and level

INTERNATROLET · 03-02-2009, 01:45 PM

Man that's pretty...

kandel123 · 03-02-2009, 11:30 PM

i like

jimhrabe · 03-03-2009, 12:02 AM

looks good!

kandel123 · 03-03-2009, 07:25 PM

why dont you try and make a level frame next time!

GET_LOW · 03-03-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kandel123

why dont you try and make a level frame next time!

If your referring to the angle, its impossible with a doored truck. Even stockfloored. its prob only like 2 inches max.

curt_minke · 03-04-2009, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Quote: Originally Posted by kandel123 why dont you try and make a level frame next time!

If your referring to the angle, its impossible with a doored truck. Even stockfloored. its prob only like 2 inches max.

what are you guys talking about im confused>?

Kenny_Cox · 03-04-2009, 01:23 AM

i think Kandel was only kidding, trying to point out the fact that in the pics there is a level, and it always reads perfect.

kandel123 · 03-04-2009, 08:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kenny_Cox

i think Kandel was only kidding, trying to point out the fact that in the pics there is a level, and it always reads perfect.

yep. Not sure what drag racer is talking about

curt_minke · 03-05-2009, 05:14 AM

lol oh ok well thanks haha

Oldskool94 · 03-05-2009, 02:50 PM

so trucks looking really good.

Droppedime08 · 03-05-2009, 03:38 PM

badass idea on the rear frame rails..i really like it

Innis · 03-06-2009, 12:57 AM

lookin real good man, lovin the frame rails!!

curt_minke · 03-11-2009, 12:37 AM

more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! pics.......

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INTERNATROLET · 03-11-2009, 12:51 AM

wowza!

V8Blaze · 03-11-2009, 01:57 AM

WOW! this might be one of the nicest frames ive seen built on here. Keep the pics coming

Close2theground · 03-11-2009, 11:41 AM

looks great man, can't wait to see more !

Oldskool94 · 03-11-2009, 11:53 AM

thats a sweet ass update nice work.

GET_LOW · 03-11-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by kandel123

yep. Not sure what drag racer is talking about

Yeah i don't know what that kid is talkin about either. He must be stupid or something.

(I thought i was in slappy's thread and about the angle part on his floor

)

jimhrabe · 03-11-2009, 12:46 PM

Looks great so far!

Wybrow · 03-13-2009, 05:10 PM

Wow dude looks amazing!!!

Innis · 03-18-2009, 10:13 PM

wow curtis this is awesome, i think over Easter weekend i am gonn have to drive up there from my parents house on Saturday and come check it out in person

keep it up!

01-30-2009, 03:10 PM	#201
Oldskool94 Vroom 2.2 Vroom Age: 18 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,730 Location: Grand Haven,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head i really like the new wheels.looking good btw.
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01-31-2009, 01:33 AM	#202
Innis Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,199 Location: London, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head hey man, good thing to see some progress on this thing, cant wait to see it rollin soon, we will def have to cruise the beach when im home in the summer!!
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02-03-2009, 12:11 AM	#203
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head more progress. cleaned the shop, and finished welding the one rear frame rail.. [/IMG] My aRM muscle locked and looked f''ed up so i snapped a pic... looks broken Last edited by curt_minke : 02-03-2009 at 12:14 AM.
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02-03-2009, 12:27 AM	#204
Wybrow ~Sunkin Sins~ Age: 21 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 489 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Damn man! Thats an ass load of welding...looks like your clearances are pretty well perfect though....job well done.
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02-03-2009, 12:50 AM	#205
sonomaguy Scoop Age: 48 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,988 Location: Alberta,Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Some very nice welding there, now get a new clear shield for the front of the welding helmet so you can see better.
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02-03-2009, 12:53 AM	#206
sonomaguy Scoop Age: 48 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,988 Location: Alberta,Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke more progress. cleaned the shop, and finished welding the one rear frame rail.. LOL, the fender looks kind of funny sitting out there with the wheel under it and no truck around.
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02-03-2009, 09:58 AM	#207
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: LOL, the fender looks kind of funny sitting out there with the wheel under it and no truck around. lol yeah, i thought it was staring at me while i was welding so i snapped a pic of it too haha Yeah it took me about 2.5hrs to weld and grind that one frame rail. and i still have to finish the drag arms.
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02-03-2009, 05:06 PM	#208
rebels10 firefighter260 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 730 Location: eminence, ky User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head i love the new wheels. and the work looks amazing.
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02-03-2009, 05:17 PM	#209
reaper13 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 119 Location: Burlington, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head looks real good man, real good
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02-04-2009, 09:19 AM	#210
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head more progress. I finished grinding the first frame rail and tacked the other one together. And a couple drawings when i got bored.
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02-05-2009, 11:55 AM	#211
Oldskool94 Vroom 2.2 Vroom Age: 18 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,730 Location: Grand Haven,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head i really like your truck it reminds me alot of mine. and sweet drawing i wish i could draw that good.
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02-05-2009, 08:50 PM	#212
dragginbalz lame-o Age: 32 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 779 Location: illinois User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head I hope you don't take this the wrong way and I know it is a little late now, but next time you do these, you should fit the top and bottom caps so that they sit right inside the two side plates like this (full or half open corner) It will be a ton less grinding than welding it the way you did. You can get a nice bead in the corner then just round over or square up the edge. Very little grinding, less weld removed. (I usually prefer the slightly rounded over edges as opposed to the perfectly square) The rails and whole project look awesome! Keep up the good work! t
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02-06-2009, 12:51 AM	#213
iLLblazer 2legit2quit Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,856 Location: Winnipeg, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by dragginbalz I hope you don't take this the wrong way and I know it is a little late now, but next time you do these, you should fit the top and bottom caps so that they sit right inside the two side plates like this (full or half open corner) It will be a ton less grinding than welding it the way you did. You can get a nice bead in the corner then just round over or square up the edge. Very little grinding, less weld removed. (I usually prefer the slightly rounded over edges as opposed to the perfectly square) The rails and whole project look awesome! Keep up the good work! t I looked at the pics and that was my first thoughts. You ground away the majority of your weld the way you did it, and made alot more work for yourself grinding.
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02-06-2009, 07:53 AM	#214
dragginbalz lame-o Age: 32 Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 779 Location: illinois User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Thanks for posting an actual pic Joel. That is much better example than the drawing I found!!! But that is exactly how I would do it. You just kiss the edge with a grinder and you are done. t
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02-06-2009, 10:38 AM	#215
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head ok guys, First of all thanks for the tips... I take everything to heart from all you guys (and gals). But let me explain myself so you understand why i did it this way. First of all, the reason i didn't go full or half open corner is becasue of the way i had to bend the material around the plates. It would be very difficult (especially cause i work by myself) to keep a constant half open corner to weld to and remember I only had 3/16 wall thickness to weld to. This could cause serious warping with the thickness of the material being quite thin, and not building a jig to weld it (because its obviously one off). Furthermore, when i tack the pieces together i now have a straight square edge. Now you may ask, how you can you get full penitration? Well see once its all tacked together, straight, and they way i want it i now take my grinder with a coarse stone disc and grind out a 37 degree angle on both pices till the material is about 1/16 (.0625) away from right through. Now i have my welder set to burn a full penetration weld in the "V" style groove i made. Then what is left for me as a "weld cap" above the surface which is what i grind off. Now the cap still may take extensive grinding, BUT the weld is fully penitrated and allows me to have a square edge..... So now i have a fully welded frame rail with perfectly straight, square edges. This makes it 100 times easier to create my own fillet around the rail and not have to depend on the radius the weld made doing the half or full open corner weld. I have done many half open or full open corner welds were i have ground it smooth to a nice radius on the "dependant weld" but found that i have had to go back and add "weld material" to the radius were the weld would be less than the radius i was going for. So in my prospective, with the goal i am trying to achieve, my way may take a little bit longer but in the end it makes it a hell of alot easier for my to grind my own radius and keep it square and uniform without having to touch up spots. Wow that was long. ha hopfully you guys understand what im saying. Haha if not i made a drawing for you guys to understand better how i weld it. Again thanks for your comments and concerns!!!!
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02-11-2009, 11:41 PM	#216
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head rear rail welded
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02-12-2009, 12:06 AM	#217
Kenny_Cox BodyDropped Member Age: 22 Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,244 Location: HOLT, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head that looks great.
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02-12-2009, 01:24 PM	#218
$straightridah$ Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head theres a truck comin through the wall! wait, no thats just a grille. nice lookin rails.
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02-12-2009, 01:37 PM	#219
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head lol haha thanks guys i should hopefully have that rail ground down tonight and should be able to cut the uglly ass back half off this weekend!
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02-12-2009, 02:18 PM	#220
Oldskool94 Vroom 2.2 Vroom Age: 18 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,730 Location: Grand Haven,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head sweet we need more progress pics.haha
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02-12-2009, 02:54 PM	#221
anALLSHOx Forvm Lurker Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 759 Location: Vegas. User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head i know this might sound like a stupid question but is that a ball hitch receiver on the very front of the frame???
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02-12-2009, 03:01 PM	#222
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in.
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02-12-2009, 03:10 PM	#223
Oldskool94 Vroom 2.2 Vroom Age: 18 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,730 Location: Grand Haven,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in. good idea thinking ahead.
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02-12-2009, 03:10 PM	#224
anALLSHOx Forvm Lurker Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 759 Location: Vegas. User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by curt_minke ha i have to explain this everytime. It is a good idea but im goin to make it better. Its for if it ever gets stuck down you can put a reciver in and use that to jack it up to be able to get it off the ground. Where it sits the reciever will come out the front air dam so you don't have to remove the bumper. Ill just have to make a qucik disconnect grille for the air dam so you can get at it. When i redo it i will be making my own that isn't crappy or bought off a shelf and welded in. that's ingeniously smart, i always had to use a 4x4 piece of wood and 2 jacks..
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02-12-2009, 08:08 PM	#225
Wybrow ~Sunkin Sins~ Age: 21 Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 489 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Woot, progress! Get this shit done. I know, Im one to talk.
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02-16-2009, 10:35 PM	#226
Innis Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,199 Location: London, Ontario User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by Wybrow Woot, progress! Get this shit done. I know, Im one to talk. shut up and go post in your own thread man, progress is looking good, i was at home in kincardine all weekend i should have tried to get together with you for some drinks ah well next time
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02-17-2009, 11:57 AM	#227
Oldskool94 Vroom 2.2 Vroom Age: 18 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,730 Location: Grand Haven,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head progress is looking good.
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03-02-2009, 12:22 AM	#228
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head PICTURE UPDATE! yEaH! rear rails are in!
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03-02-2009, 12:40 AM	#229
Close2theground . Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 236 Location: Ontario Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Hell ya good work brotha ! nice and level
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03-02-2009, 01:45 PM	#230
INTERNATROLET resU deretsigeR Age: 28 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 563 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Man that's pretty...
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03-02-2009, 11:30 PM	#231
kandel123 Its Mr. Kandel to you! Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,051 Location: Northeastern Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head i like
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03-03-2009, 12:02 AM	#232
jimhrabe Turbocharged Pimp Age: 36 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,140 Location: Mokena, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head looks good!
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03-03-2009, 07:25 PM	#233
kandel123 Its Mr. Kandel to you! Age: 22 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,051 Location: Northeastern Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head why dont you try and make a level frame next time!
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03-03-2009, 08:42 PM	#234
GET_LOW B JELUS Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,407 Location: GH, MI User is: Online	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Originally Posted by kandel123 why dont you try and make a level frame next time! If your referring to the angle, its impossible with a doored truck. Even stockfloored. its prob only like 2 inches max.
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03-04-2009, 01:14 AM	#235
curt_minke Interpretive Rides Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 312 Location: Ontario, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Metal Head Quote: Quote: Originally Posted by kandel123 why dont you try and make a level frame next time! If your referring to the angle, its impossible with a doored truck. Even stockfloored. its prob only like 2 inches max. what are you guys talking about im confused>?
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