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Old 07-29-2008, 04:31 PM   #4601
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yep. I gotcha. I am going to look into buying some and get myself a little kit ready so I can inflate tires, hook up to a shop compressor, blow stuff off with an air nozzle, etc. Thank you for explaining how that all worked. I was unclear on it before.
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compressor come in??
Old 07-29-2008, 10:46 PM   #4603
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that sucks about the compressor. only a few months old and brushes are gone? for reference, when i had just my front bagged with a 450 and 5 gallon tank, i had an hour meter hooked up to it from new. from aug-dec it was up to 20 hrs daily driven.
Old 07-30-2008, 12:38 AM   #4604
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where did you get an hour meter?
Old 07-30-2008, 01:15 AM   #4605
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Quote: Originally Posted by Getbored Designs
compressor come in??
ya got it today. didnt have time to put it in. I need some fittings to put in it in. so as long as i get the oasis fixed tomorrow then ill just leave the viar 480 off for this weekend. but then when i get back Im gonna order the couple of fittings ineed and a water trap for this compressor. if i cant fix the oasis tomorrow then ill just hook up the viar in the place of the oasis and utilize all the plumbing in place for that compressor location. thanks for the great deal by the way
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your oasis isnt that old is it?
did you try calling them about a warranty
Old 07-30-2008, 05:24 PM   #4607
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Quote: Originally Posted by Getbored Designs
your oasis isnt that old is it?
did you try calling them about a warranty
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I have had and been using it for over a year now, usually things arent warrentied for over a year. and for the $25 for new motor brushes it sure as hell aint worth sending it back and waiting and all that mess. the brushes came today, when i get off work im going straight home and seeing if i can fix it hopefully.
Old 07-30-2008, 06:20 PM   #4609
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make sure when u put them in the faces of the brush that touches the communtator will have a slight angle. make sure they are both inserted at the same angle to keep commutator wear even.
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So....I learned something new about the Oasis compressor today. It has two positive contacts on the motor and 2 ground contacts. And these contacts wear down overtime. I replaced the brushes(motor contacts or whatever you wanna call them) and my compressor is alive and kicken again!

Ok, so first I took of the end cap off the compressor, this is whats under there:


Here is a comparision of an old used brush that I removed next to a new brush. the "brush" is what applies power to the spinning shaft of the motor. positive and negative forces atracting/repeling over and over again is what makes a motor spin (people should know that already but if not thats what a motor is haha).


Here on the left you can see the brush holder thing with the brush removed. On the right you can see a brush holder with a new brush installed. there is a curly spring thing that keeps the brush against the spinning shaft of the motor.


Here you can see all 4 new brushes installed.


the old used up brushes that went in the trash can:


And yesturday my viar 480 compressor came in. This will get mounted to the truck with a toggle switch and will only be used in emergency situations like when the brushes suddenly wear out on the oasis (there are no signs of wear, it will just simply stop working one day like it did me). Or sometimes, with extended use of the oasis it will overheat and cut off until it cools down. So those are the times I will use this viar480. I can also use that for indoor shows since it only pulls 20 amps so it will be able to run off my power supply. but with 10 gallons of air and a single viar 480 it will take forever to fill up. I need to order a fitting and a water trap and then ill get it mounted up sometime next week.
Old 07-30-2008, 10:59 PM   #4611
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softer brushes = more torque
its a drawback for pushing a lotta air.
Old 07-31-2008, 01:12 AM   #4612
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if its a back up, i wouldnt even mess with a water trap. and never had to order fittings before. ace is the place. i got the hookup lol.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper
if its a back up, i wouldnt even mess with a water trap. and never had to order fittings before. ace is the place. i got the hookup lol.
well if i dont get a water trap then i need a non-existent fitting lol. The leader hose isnt long enough to go straight to the tank, so if i do a water trap i can have my female 3/8s to female 3/8s fitting i need basically so i can use plastic line from the water trap into my tank. Thats the only reason im gonna bother with a water trap on this compressor, and technically you always should use one
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Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s
well if i dont get a water trap then i need a non-existent fitting lol. The leader hose isnt long enough to go straight to the tank, so if i do a water trap i can have my female 3/8s to female 3/8s fitting i need basically so i can use plastic line from the water trap into my tank. Thats the only reason im gonna bother with a water trap on this compressor, and technically you always should use one

water traps are good and they do help
but they do not catch all the water
your best bet is to mount the water trap as far away from the compressor as possible
when the hot air from the compressor cools it creates condensation
in the tank
so you will always have water in your system
best bet is to drain the tank regularly
and put some air compressor anti freeze i the tank
this is sold at any big rig shop
just dump a little in about two tablespoons
the vapors from the liquid keep the valves from freezing and kind of lubricate the valves
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Quote: Originally Posted by Getbored Designs
water traps are good and they do help
but they do not catch all the water
your best bet is to mount the water trap as far away from the compressor as possible
when the hot air from the compressor cools it creates condensation
in the tank
so you will always have water in your system
best bet is to drain the tank regularly
and put some air compressor anti freeze i the tank
this is sold at any big rig shop
just dump a little in about two tablespoons
the vapors from the liquid keep the valves from freezing and kind of lubricate the valves
Well ill mount the water trap as far away from the compressor as the leader hose gets me, just like i did on my oasis. I can only go as far away as the leader hose is long lol. And ya, i know all about condensation and to use anti freeze in the winter (although you do realize it is summer right now and hot as **** so there is no need to worry about valve freezing ).
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Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s
Well ill mount the water trap as far away from the compressor as the leader hose gets me, just like i did on my oasis. I can only go as far away as the leader hose is long lol. And ya, i know all about condensation and to use anti freeze in the winter (although you do realize it is summer right now and hot as **** so there is no need to worry about valve freezing ).

i figured you already knew
although the anti freeze is a good idea year round!
Old 07-31-2008, 10:37 AM   #4617
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Quote: Originally Posted by Getbored Designs
i figured you already knew
although the anti freeze is a good idea year round!
Really? Why? for the lubrication aspect?
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you can use fittings and attach plastic airline to your leader hose. That is what I did on my truck since I have the EDC in the engine bay, going to a leader hose, then plastic air line, then to the water trap that is all the way back by my tank. Still get a ton of oil passing through it through and goes into the tank. It's nasty when I drain it, lol.
Old 07-31-2008, 10:47 AM   #4619
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I would guess because of the lubrication. My valves used to freeze in the winter all the time but last year I used airbarak antifreeze and the only time my valves froze was when there was like a foot or more of snow in my bed.

I have not seen any benefits if any this summer, my truck is broken down.


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Quote: Originally Posted by kovz34
you can use fittings and attach plastic airline to your leader hose. That is what I did on my truck since I have the EDC in the engine bay, going to a leader hose, then plastic air line, then to the water trap that is all the way back by my tank. Still get a ton of oil passing through it through and goes into the tank. It's nasty when I drain it, lol.
What fitting did you use to go from the leader house to plastic line? cuz you basically need a female 3/8" thread to 1/2" OD fitting and no such thing exists, and it would take a haug paug (sp? lol) of fittings to make that up, unless if there is a fitting or two out there that makes it easy. thats why i figured id just get a water trap and a 3/8 thread to 1/2"OD fitting out of the water trap and call it a day, effective, gets the job done, and gets that water trap in there like ya should have.

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i use parker push lok directly on the compressor
been doing it for years
and have had no problems

but you can use plastic push lock after the leader
just use a push lock fitting or a compression fitting
either works fine
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don't know... lol. My buddy greg was plumbing that while I was painting the back half of the frame, haha. It came with the EDC kit through in the bag of fittings that comes with it.

if it makes you feel any better, I voted for your truck this month... too bad the competition is so high! lol
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Ill just stick to my original plan of leader hose, then water trap then plastic line then tank.

and thanks Mike lol, but Sean is killing me, which is understandable.
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push lok is awesome. only plastic i have is for gauges, besides the like 1' section that goes from the trap to the tank. i needed one more fitting, but i wouldnt want that stuff for the whole system. kinks, melts, you name it. you can pretty much tie the push lok in a knot and still wont hurt it.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dr. Pepper
push lok is awesome. only plastic i have is for gauges, besides the like 1' section that goes from the trap to the tank. i needed one more fitting, but i wouldnt want that stuff for the whole system. kinks, melts, you name it. you can pretty much tie the push lok in a knot and still wont hurt it.
The plastic line has served me well. Nothing is routed in a place it will melt, nothing is routed in a way that will make it kink, and the PTC fittings are hella easy to use. I love it, I wouldnt bother with anything other then plastic line and PTC fittings. Everyone has their own likes and dislikes though. and I dont plan on tying my plastic line in a knot anytime soon
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i used a fitting that had 3/8 ID on both ends basically as a connection for my leader hose and PTC fitting. Then i used a 4 way on my tank
2 port - 2 different comp. one under bed other in bed
1 port - PS
1 port - Tank
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Quote: Originally Posted by AVdime
i used a fitting that had 3/8 ID on both ends basically as a connection for my leader hose and PTC fitting. Then i used a 4 way on my tank
2 port - 2 different comp. one under bed other in bed
1 port - PS
1 port - Tank
you found a 3/8" female NPT double sided fitting? like 3/8" NPT female on both sides? I couldnt find one. Doesnt matter cuz i will do that water trap anyways. im just curious now cuz i didnt that such a fitting existed.
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Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s
you found a 3/8" female NPT double sided fitting? like 3/8" NPT female on both sides? I couldnt find one. Doesnt matter cuz i will do that water trap anyways. im just curious now cuz i didnt that such a fitting existed.
http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...x?part=B-6-HCG

Swagelok even has fittings that don't fit on anything.
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hmmm cool. well i ordered my water trap from SD and the couple of fittings needed to do the job, but its good to know that the fitting is available.
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yep, that is the same fitting i used. Came with the EDC kit from airlift