project:Ladyluck

[xxannihilationx]

Since i don't want clog up the forum with a bunch of different threads, im going to post some questions that i did search for a read how to's, but couldn't find an answer or are still unclear to me. i also will end up posting progress of the truck when i do start bagging it. im going to go with the SD 4link, so most of the questions have to do with it, or general bagging stuff

so to start off here are some things that i don't get:


-do i have to extend brake lines/replace?
-is the 4 link just like the 3 link/5 link install thread on here?
-does the 4 link come with lower adjustable bars? if not, should i worry about getting them?
-if i put the gastank in the rear of the bed, will i have any problems as in extending lines or issues with gas guage/floater if i do extend lines?
-when i go and try to find my ride height, what if i ride lower or drag, will this mess up my pinion angle at all, or will it affect it at all?
-when hooking up air management, is the chart on sd.com accurate or do i have to throw in relays of any sort? dont the pressure switch act as a relay?

thanks for any help at all. i just want to know everything i need to know before starting this project since i will be working hard for it. im sure most people on here have saw my truck as it is right now but ill post it again as a teaser pic until progress starts(which will be a while):

[xxannihilationx]

29 views and nothing?

[lowdime96]

nice truck man.

-do i have to extend brake lines/replace?
• not unless they are in bad condition. i had to cut down my rear line and weld the bracket that converts the hard line to rubber line to my notch. for that all you need is a flairing tool and a plumbing style tubing cutter. it is easy enough to do.
-is the 4 link just like the 3 link/5 link install thread on here?
• yes and no. they both work the same. while driving the truck, you won't notice a difference between either one. the only major difference is the fact that there is no mount for the gas tank so you will have to run your tank in the bed, run a 2dr blazer tank behind the axle and under the bed, or run a fuel cell.
-does the 4 link come with lower adjustable bars? if not, should i worry about getting them?
• not sure what you mean, but the lower bars are the same as the 3 link lower bars. you relocate the stock spring perches a little close to the axle and weld the axle brackets to the axle.
-if i put the gastank in the rear of the bed, will i have any problems as in extending lines or issues with gas guage/floater if i do extend lines?
• there is a 99% chance you will have to extend your fuel lines if you decide to run your tank in the bed. it won't mess with the sending unit/float at all. you are going to need to use the flairing tool again to do this. pretty simple.
-when i go and try to find my ride height, what if i ride lower or drag, will this mess up my pinion angle at all, or will it affect it at all?
• if you do the install properly, your pinion will not chance meaning you can set it for any height and have no worries. i usually set it about 4" from the truck laying out. you need an angle finder (get one at home depot) and you will have to point the diff up from level about 3 degrees (ideal to set it opposite of the tranny whish should be damn close to 3 degrees pointing down from level as well).
-when hooking up air management, is the chart on sd.com accurate or do i have to throw in relays of any sort? dont the pressure switch act as a relay?
• yes you need a relay for every compressor. i would recommend the viair dual pak 480 kit because it comes with 2 realys and a pressure switch. the relays allow you to run a safe voltage to the pressure switch so it doesn't burn out and also the ability to connect the system to your ignition so your compressors turn off when your truck turns off.

hope that helps

[hamagc]

anymore questions?

[xxannihilationx]

lol not yet im sure there will be plenty more. thanks for taking the time. i was actually looking at getting the duel viar 380's(pretty much because of the price). is there a good thread or chart on how to hook up the management system with relays and all that shit? because im kind of still clueless on that part.

[lowdime96]

there is a diagram in the box, with the compressors.

basically ignition > toggle switch (for emergencies) > relays in parallel > pressure switch > ground.

then the other leads on the relays are for the power wires on the compressors.

[xxannihilationx]

im sure no one gives a shit but i got the money up and giving SD a call tom to put in an order for my whole rear setup.

pretty much a simple list is this:
tb s10 4 link - 469
s10 notch - 100
switchbox wire - 20
Airlift Easystreet 200 PSI Single Needle - 30
airlift dominator d2600 - 150
1/8 airline - 10
5 gallon 4 port tank - 60
viar 380 chrome duel pack compressors - 290
switches - 10
smc 3/8 valves - 60

as for the airline, im running all copper lines to be a bit different and getting the fittings from a supply shop near home. just curious, how much do you think shipping will be on that much stuff?

[xxannihilationx]

ok i got my stuff ordered yes. when i ordered the 4 link i asked if it came with a template of how far to move the front spring perches up and they just told me to come on here and find that out. so im kinda confused because i read the 3/5 link instal and it said to USE THE SUPPLIED TEMPLATE to move the perches forward. WTF?

[hurley1718]

The 3/5-link how to says how far forward you should move the perches if you do not have the template. When you get your link if it doesnt have a template pm me and I will mail you mine. I finishing up my 5-link soon and I wont need it.

[Twin-10s]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxannihilationx

im sure no one gives a shit but i got the money up and giving SD a call tom to put in an order for my whole rear setup.

pretty much a simple list is this:
tb s10 4 link - 469

you do understand that with that 4 link you have to relocate your gas tank/ get a fuel cell right?

[xxannihilationx]

yes i'm putting it in the bed and building a sheetmetal box around it. i think its pretty original so i'll post pics of everything

Quote: Originally Posted by Twin-10s

you do understand that with that 4 link you have to relocate your gas tank/ get a fuel cell right?

[xxannihilationx]

WOOO HOOO!






just waiting on the four link...

[flnole78]

Sweet man! Good luck on the bagging process.

I noticed you only bought switch box wire, what are you doing for the actual switches?

[xxannihilationx]

haha well since im only doing my rear for now and eventually only going to do a FB setup, i was going to get toggle switches and just make my own box but i ordered the wrong type of toggle switch lol. i ordered the one that just clicks back in forth, not like the ones that go up and down like on switchboxes, so if someone could give me a link that would be awesome lol

[xxannihilationx]

no work today so i got bored and made a little guage cluster. It will eventually be the same color as my dash

Had to pull all the bullshit out of my console lol



Color of my dash:

[flnole78]

Here you go. If you are only doing 1 bag up/down you want a 3 prong. For 2 bags do a 6 prong and for all up/all down you want a 12 prong.

http://suicidedoors.com/AirManagementToggleSwitches.php

[xxannihilationx]

cool man i appreciate i was wondering about the prong thing lol.

Quote: Originally Posted by flnole78

Here you go. If you are only doing 1 bag up/down you want a 3 prong. For 2 bags do a 6 prong and for all up/all down you want a 12 prong.

http://suicidedoors.com/AirManagementToggleSwitches.php

[flnole78]

Do you hang out with any of the crowd in Jax? Like Dave(xxosiris9xx), Joe(genx-treme),Bobby(91sonomast), Kyle(kdhs10)

I should be over that way bagging the back of my blazer the first weekend in Sept.

[OneLowSdime]

i saw a dollar......are you a dollar menunaire?

[xxannihilationx]

na i havent but i'd like to start going to shows. i think aug. 7th is the next meet in orange park. is there any others around town?

Quote: Originally Posted by flnole78

Do you hang out with any of the crowd in Jax? Like Dave(xxosiris9xx), Joe(genx-treme),Bobby(91sonomast), Kyle(kdhs10)

I should be over that way bagging the back of my blazer the first weekend in Sept.

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by OneLowSdime

i saw a dollar......are you a dollar menunaire?

ha im not know after buying this stuff lol

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by flnole78

Here you go. If you are only doing 1 bag up/down you want a 3 prong. For 2 bags do a 6 prong and for all up/all down you want a 12 prong.

http://suicidedoors.com/AirManagementToggleSwitches.php

so i was thinking about this...iwould only need a 3 prong since im tying the 2 bags in the rear together and only having 2 valves right?

[91sonomast]

Hey Colton, some of the guys are trying to get a saturday night hangout going again at Auto & Truck Restylers on Blanding across from Ray Carter Kia, we will be out there this saturday at about 8pm until whenever as long as it doesn't rain. And the next truck night is August 7th at 7:30pm at Lil Bambino's in south Orange Park.

[flnole78]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxannihilationx

so i was thinking about this...iwould only need a 3 prong since im tying the 2 bags in the rear together and only having 2 valves right?

Yeah if you aren't doing FBSS and you are tying the rear bags together then you will only need 1 3 prong switch for the back bags. There are so many configurations that I would have to know exactly what you are wanting to tell you exactly how many of each you need. But yes for the back being Tee'd together you will only need the one switch. How will you be doing the front? I would suggest separate so you can control them and adjust for the chevy lean or leaks. If you do that then you will need 2 3 prongs and 1 6 prong for the front along with your 1 3 prong for the back. So 4 switches total.

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by flnole78

Yeah if you aren't doing FBSS and you are tying the rear bags together then you will only need 1 3 prong switch for the back bags. There are so many configurations that I would have to know exactly what you are wanting to tell you exactly how many of each you need. But yes for the back being Tee'd together you will only need the one switch. How will you be doing the front? I would suggest separate so you can control them and adjust for the chevy lean or leaks. If you do that then you will need 2 3 prongs and 1 6 prong for the front along with your 1 3 prong for the back. So 4 switches total.

i honestly havent decided, i considered doing that but my truck is only a 1/4 off so i really am not sure if i even want to mess with sides.

the front will be done this winter more than likely when work is slow and i'll have time to rip my inner fender wells off and tub for 20's

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by 91sonomast

Hey Colton, some of the guys are trying to get a saturday night hangout going again at Auto & Truck Restylers on Blanding across from Ray Carter Kia, we will be out there this saturday at about 8pm until whenever as long as it doesn't rain. And the next truck night is August 7th at 7:30pm at Lil Bambino's in south Orange Park.

well i'll deffinetly ride out there. it'll be the last time my truck will be together.

i mean my four link finally came in today

[xxannihilationx]

started ripping shit apart today only took me about 3 hours to gut the most of everything

before tear down:




buddy kyle being a dumbass

[xxannihilationx]

ok im kind of confused when im hooking up my air management. i got a 6 prong switch for temporary until the one from suicidedoors comes in. could someone fill in the rest of this diagram? i need it as soon as possible

[flnole78]

Alright this should work for you. The black lines are ground that you bolt directly to bare metal (chassis) the red is a power wire. The fuse panal already exists and you should be running your power wire to the switch from a fuse in the panel. If you have 2 more valves, as in 1 more fill and 1 more dump then you put the power ire from the fill valve to #5 and the power wire to the dump valve to #3.

[xxannihilationx]

alright man that really helps i appreciate it

[S10wannabee]

nice truck man,.. you're right, stepside's are cool!!

i also have the SD 4-link, with a little luck, the original tank will fit in its old place, it does now, but i still have to try what the setup will do when its on full lift. if the left upper bar interfere's with the tank, i will modify the tank,..

look in my projectthread for more info and picture's

[xxannihilationx]

ok so heres some shitty potos to give you an idea:




and my broken ass stepshavers allready

[xxannihilationx]

ok but i do have a problem...i hooked up my compressers exactly how the chart said to that came with the compressers.....heres the problem: the pressure switch isnt kicking off the compressers. its a 165/200 pressure switch and djdaudios fill time said it should only take 1 min. 56 sec....its ran for over 8 min.s before without shutting off...what could be the problem?

[flnole78]

Do you have a gauge on the tank? If not run to Lowe's or home depot and get a cheap gauge. Then you can kick them on and see if the tank is holding air. If you have a leak that leaks faster than the comp fills then it will never shut off.

If that's not it then I would check the wiring of the pressure switch and the relay to make sure you don't have a wire crossed somewhere.

[xxannihilationx]

[quote=flnole78;5526897]Do you have a gauge on the tank? If not run to Lowe's or home depot and get a cheap gauge. Then you can kick them on and see if the tank is holding air. If you have a leak that leaks faster than the comp fills then it will never shut off.

If that's not it then I would check the wiring of the pressure switch and the relay to make sure you don't have a wire crossed somewhere.[/quote


well i dont have my guages hooked up yet but i know for sure that i have no leaks and when i let it run for that long, it shoots up so fast when i air up. so im guessing one of the wires are crossed on the relays

[xxannihilationx]

Well got all the retarded bugs worked out and have been working on the bed doing some sheetmetal work. Here's a nice little video of me dragging to slamfest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7-OkagOZqQ

[xxannihilationx]

It's been forever since I've updated this thread so i figured I'd throw up some new pictures. I've got the front together and now I'm laying on tierods and innerskin of the fenders. np just need to take the front apart soon and take care of that.


I love my 2600's in the front. very glad i went with them

some of the sheetmetal work I've been doing. needs ALOT more tacking and grinding but its getting there slowly. Also need to make a cover for my batterys and fill in the hole where my old gas filler used to be. Need to get another matching battery too!


New Steering wheel

constructive criticism/ comments welcome

[kzeliminator]

and some tie downs for the batteries

do you have a full shot of the bed?

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by kzeliminator

and some tie downs for the batteries

do you have a full shot of the bed?

ha sorry bro i didnt even see that you asked that. and yes i did tie down the batteries....for some reason when i moved them both it did not even cross my mind at all to make some brackets up and when i went over the railroad tracks by my house, i remebered haha. ill get a pic tom. im working on the bed a bit more and going to try to make a cover for my batteries.

[Kovz]

I like that wheel a lot. What's the name and brand of it?

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kovz

I like that wheel a lot. What's the name and brand of it?

i know its billet specialties. my dad had bought it to put in his 56 ford and decided he wanted another one so i bought it off him. let me ask him and see if he remembers

[rbryant4]

looks good. for some reason i really like those wheels. i normally hate every wheel with more than 5 spokes on a s10 lol

[CatDaddy52]

Why don't you try using buss bars/power distribution blocks for your wiring....hate seeing 20 small wires going to a batt terminal...formula for disaster, IMO!!

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by CatDaddy52

Why don't you try using buss bars/power distribution blocks for your wiring....hate seeing 20 small wires going to a batt terminal...formula for disaster, IMO!!

got a square d about a month ago. only 2 postive wires and 2 ground wires now
i wish i had a camera right now to post some progress. got alot done on the bed.

[xxannihilationx]

Haven't did much progress latelty. Besides school my time has been tooken up a lot by a dumbass girl I should have never dated. I have been frustrated with the truck because i can't seem to get the bed the way I want, and shit keeps breaking. My sub has went out, and I burnt a whole through one of my my liter hoses( It grounded out out on one of my battery cables when i was jumping the truck). Now that I'm a broke ass college student, I don't have the money to spend anymore like I used too. I need about another $2000 I figured and It will be somewhat acceptable. I know i can do better work, but it's just turning out like shit to me. I'm working on it right now so I'll post up some pics in a few hours anyway.

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by xxannihilationx

i know its billet specialties. my dad had bought it to put in his 56 ford and decided he wanted another one so i bought it off him. let me ask him and see if he remembers

btw My dad can't remember the name to that steering wheel and I can't find a name for it anywhere online, but I know its billet specialties and they sell it on ebay.

[G4Ls10]

i wanna see this thing layed out all the way in the front man

[xxannihilationx]

Quote: Originally Posted by G4Ls10

i wanna see this thing layed out all the way in the front man

so do I man! I just need some money for a proportioning valve and a t and it would be laying right now. I'm on about and inch and a half away now!

[xxannihilationx]

ok so heres a small bit of progress. fully tacked the left side of the bed and the plan is to do alot of grinding tom.

had to take care of the little bastards sticking up

after then welded them up

sorry for the blurry as pics. my moms camera sucks but you get the idea

[s10pimpin209]

sweet truck bro. im a big fan of stepsides .lets get the front layin