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Old 03-23-2011, 04:49 PM   #1
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Ive always had a dream of Racing, Never had a dream of a s10, that was the last thing I ever thought about. I ended up with one ugly napa truck.to start off I bought it fore round 300, rebuilt the 2.2 and went through 2 trannys. I end up kicking the clutch right out of it. I knew it was to much fore the little motor. so I spent the last of my graduation money to put a v8 under there. worst thing Ive done, It was way to heavy, changed the pivot point so far forward that it was a completly different ride. I would run out of steering angle so I cut my control arm stops. That ran me into another problem my tires would catch on the frame and the frame soon turned into a scrub brake. causing the inside tire to slow so fast Id spin out. from there I parked it. The pictures when it was black are when I first put the v8 in it. the pictures after that are 6 months after I parked it.
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Old 03-23-2011, 04:58 PM   #2
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the strait axle had to go, I picked up a corvette Irs and went to work. Cut the floor out of the cab leaving nothing but the outter shell. total weight was 70 lbs if that. The cab will be mounted to the roll cage. The floor will be aluminum. Its a floating floor set up. I cut all the body panels leavin only skins. The Inner doors were cut. also I widend the whole truck 4 3/4 inches. Pulled the top and bottom door skins out.
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ill take the v8 if you dont want it, lol
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86 corrvette irs
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oh and what happened to your doors? the blazer front end looks good though
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A good look at the rear set up. Notice the frame notched to stop the scrub braking during drifting, also inproved my steering angle a ton. "Better angle during drift" all poly bushings, mood tall upper ball joints to change camber. and moog bottom ball joints.
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Its my wide body kit design "Hippo wide body". Its 5 inches wider than yore average s10 in order to clear the 4 inch wider corvette Irs.
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are you keeping the v8 or are you going with something else
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No I puttin a sr20det redtop into it, only fore the weight. I had intentions of the rb25 26, ore in the inline six catogory but it gets to expencive on the performance side.
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though Im not familiar with them, thats the only thing in my price range as of now. Im wondering if a stock sr would be enough power to hold a drift
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u stock sr should be enough. my friend has one in his 240 sx. his car is alil lighter though. u could the usual mods od 255, t28, 550, z32, and that would be more than enough. the only problem is it dosent make too much torque so u need to get the revs up more b4 the initiation. a ka24 de makes better torque and turboing that is cheap, and parts are alot cheaper.
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yeah Ive been told about those ka's but every owner ive talk to said they dont withstand a bunch of boost like the sr's? correct me if im wrong.
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that would be cool, a ls6 would be cool too though, haha
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they can if u build it right forged rods and pistons and nice bearings should work. a t25(stock size on a sr) on a ka, and a stock sr, the ka will win. i know a guy who is runnin bout 15-20 psi on his ka and he ran a 11.6 quarter mile. a stock sr can hold no more than 11 on stock internals. after than that u run risk of breakin somethin. only thing bout the sr is its an aluminum block, the ka is iron.
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well as of now this is how it sits, still waiting fore my pipe bender. And Ill get more pics up here next week. But what Ive done so far is relocated the radiator, and battery to the back of the frame. cut and boxed in my controll arms so my tires can clear at full lock. Notched the front of the frame also fore tire clearance. Notched the back half of the frame witch allows the corvette irs to clear at full travel.
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Ok coming from drifting to mini trucks i can tell you your taking i good approach with the rear end. Motor was a huge mistake. The problem with drifting a truck is there is no weight in the back which makes it damn near impossible to extend properly. Steping down to a sr would be a good choice it will make more power then that 350 with the corect setup and tune. I would however not get a s13 redtop sr they are old and tired i know they are the cheapest but not worth it. ive owned 10+ sr 240s buy a s14 black top SR with VTC they are amazing and totally worth a few extra hundred. If wou want recomendations on a setup feel free to ask. Im putting a DOHC KA with SOHC pistons and ITB's in my s10. I should make around 200hp at the wheels when all is said and done. Just the compression is so high with the single cam pistons that the motor dosnt last all that long but does amazing for drifting
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Quote: Originally Posted by black92 4.3
they can if u build it right forged rods and pistons and nice bearings should work. a t25(stock size on a sr) on a ka, and a stock sr, the ka will win. i know a guy who is runnin bout 15-20 psi on his ka and he ran a 11.6 quarter mile. a stock sr can hold no more than 11 on stock internals. after than that u run risk of breakin somethin. only thing bout the sr is its an aluminum block, the ka is iron.
my friend tom makes 380 hp on 24lbs of boost with a pretty much stock ka other then a metal headgasket and arp studs. A stock sr car hold 15lbs all day just the stock t25 turbo cant. If you swap to a t28 you can mkae around 260-270. Go up to a GT2871R and you will make insane power on a SR the lag sucks but the VTC on the s14 SR helps to make up for that
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in the last pic, that looks like a hella gap between the bottom of the notch and the c-channel bottom. anyone else see it?
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yeah yore right about the back being to light, the cabs just the outer shell the way the frame is on a s10 when you level the truck the frame is higher in the front. so I was thinking therefore if i move the motor back and level the truck the weight will transfer onto the rear suspension. Plus 22 gauge floor and firewall takes alot of weight off the center. also with being able to toe out the rear I think it would be the perfect drift truck. Spc Larsen thats why Im here, I take all recomendations into consideration. let me know what you Have in mind.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SPC Larsen
my friend tom makes 380 hp on 24lbs of boost with a pretty much stock ka other then a metal headgasket and arp studs. A stock sr car hold 15lbs all day just the stock t25 turbo cant. If you swap to a t28 you can mkae around 260-270. Go up to a GT2871R and you will make insane power on a SR the lag sucks but the VTC on the s14 SR helps to make up for that
yea on the t25 after 13-14 psi, ur blowing hot air. on the redtops because they r older u got to b careful with pushing too much boost and warping the block.
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the only problem I could seem to come to was the oil pan. Its a front sump and it def looks like its gunna run into my draglink. I was looking on greddy, Hks and cant seem to find a rear sump. any Ideas?
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Quote: Originally Posted by pavmentscreaming
the only problem I could seem to come to was the oil pan. Its a front sump and it def looks like its gunna run into my draglink. I was looking on greddy, Hks and cant seem to find a rear sump. any Ideas?
sorry bro they dont make one gonna have to fab one. what im planing is adding balast to the bed right over the rear subframe (im gonna be using full s13 rear end) by welding two 1" diameter bars verticaly you can put weights on it. Its adjustable as you can buy a huge varity of sizes and weights. we did it to my friends s10 a few years back and it worked amazing the truck was able to hold angle and extend like a 240 does. oh and im using a ka cause i like torque and with itb's it will sound insane plus im using a 240 front subframe steering knucles etc so i wont have a oilpan issue
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I'd vote a KA with a GT28RS if you're going cheap. If you've got the money for a black top SR20, do as SPC Larsen said. But if you're gonna pony up that much money, get an RB25 or an RB20.
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Quote: Originally Posted by detuned
I'd vote a KA with a GT28RS if you're going cheap. If you've got the money for a black top SR20, do as SPC Larsen said. But if you're gonna pony up that much money, get an RB25 or an RB20.
Personaly i hate RB's they are super expensive for aftermarket parts and good luck finding them cause its not as easy as you might think. Also they are very very heavy if you honestley wanted a fast turbo straight 6 then use a 1JZ bottomend with 2JZ head and a ill turbo setup you can make 400 hp like nothing with a stock motor just a turbo setup, tune, etc..
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Put an LS1 in it
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Go find a sc300 and pull the motor. Its a 1jge jus need the turbo. But a fullbolton kit is 4gs. U can get a sr pushin the same power thought
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Quote: Originally Posted by black92 4.3
Go find a sc300 and pull the motor. Its a 1jge jus need the turbo. But a fullbolton kit is 4gs. U can get a sr pushin the same power thought
you can buy a na 1jz na 2jz use the 1j bottom 2j top and peice togther a turbo kit for less then $2500 plus a r154 tranny thats another 400-1000 your still looking at around 4-5 K for this setup but it will put out over 500 to the wheels
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Any news on this project? I trying to decide whether or not to go this route with mine when I rebuild, or just slam it..
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have you ever seen this truck before
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bump. any updates?
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Sry guys been busy with school, yeah Ive got some updates. After 12 hrs of 2000 grit this is what the corrvette rear is looking like, what do you think? I also when through and tig welded some bracing in there, due to the weather here changing so much, warm and cold everythings got a little surface rust. She shall clean right up though. went through the front steering geometry and got my ackerman geometry back. It was completly oposite, I had to lengthen my center link giving my pitman arms 2 degrees positive from parallel ( outward). It was all out of wack because of the steering angle advancement, Everythings down to the nitty gritty detail, so be patient with me.
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Also for this picture, let me know what you guys think about the wide body, stole the idea from a dodge viper. Though this pictures before the roll cage, it still has the corvette rear in it. Its a dana 36, not the 44; do you think it will hold the abuse of ebraking and clutch dumping? But over all let me know what you think about the wide body.
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The S10 drifting at orlando speedways cool, at least hes doing it. But there is so much body roll, and his steering lock limits his drift angle causing him to spin out. Front end is heavy, no grip in the rear. Its good for begining but I want grip in the rear.
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Honestly I'm not digging the wide body, I think a stock looking truck with a topper would be cool because noone would be expecting some guy with a stock truck to drift, not being able to comprehend the amount of work actually done to it, and then blowing it on the track. But interesting work nonetheless, I keep an eye on it
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I guess to each his own, would be a good sleeper though. Thanks for the input.
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Yeah its updated to date, need to take more pictures, Without the rear end installed I cant push it out to take some good pictures. Im trying to figure out a engine, Im debating on a sr20, or a 13b rotary. a 13b would be crazy, I could lower the motor down and almost push it back into the firewall giving me a 50 50 weight disturbution, but anyone on here delt with a 13b rotary out of a rx7?
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they sound mean all ported out. But I don't know if it will have enough power without spending a ton of money to drift your truck. I would stick to a beefy lsx if I were you. But I don't know what is all required with drifting either besides power and skill.
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The v8 became a popular production engine in the 70s, one of the worst overall designs, but rather popular because of the sound. They created the engine to stuff more cubes in a small space. Just because its popular doesnt mean its for everyone. The strait family is the best design, strait 6 inparticular. The pistons dont fight themselves like they would in the v8, thats why they switched to the 90 degree block angle to acheive an even firing. Every Class 8 truck is strait 6, they produce better torque, and are a balanced design. Its all in the blue prints, search it. Everone on here has seen or known of someone that has a v8 in a s10. The stock 98 s10 engine is better than some 80s v8s. The problem with ls motors is the transmission cost more than the engine, the problem with old v8s is the transmission cost more than a complete sr20det swap. All these newer chevy engines cost way to much for what they dont offer, I want to be able to fix this easly; As i will be racing it every weekend. It will cost me more to rebuild the ls series engine, then Buy another sr20, and mod that one.
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Sr is a solid motor, from what I hear. I would def peek into some 240 forums before I decide for certain though. But for the 50/50 weight, go ahead and set back the motor and redo the firewall, it'll be worth it.

And I agree with above, not diggin the wide body. Nothing against it, just more a fan of flared fenders vs widening the whole body
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Yeah, well I kinda cant go back and un widen it, So with that being said Ill work forward into finishing it and mabye it will change some minds; I hope. I like the flared fender look with 8 inch tires streched over a 10 inch rim, I was thinking about also putting zr2 fender flares on it, cut out for the tire clearance. Does anyone have pictures of a lowered zr2 or 2wd with fenderflares?
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I Redid my firewall, just need an engines dimentions to cut it out. i its all welded and seam sealed.
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i think the widebody looks fukin fantastic, better than what i thought it would, and deffinitly better than flares. plz dont flare it after all that work, it would kill it! i dont think the 13b will have the torque, ka24de has my vote. i just did a ka24e build for my nissan pickup, great motors.
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About time I get some positive feedback, thanks sean. alot of work went into those doors and cab. Alot of unkown work went into it to, granted i sandblasted the frame with a 5gallon air compressor, took 3 months because it would rust as fast as i could sandblast. Not to mention the overall suspension work, including custom pitman arms to gain more steering and a fliped and widend draglink to get my ackerman geometry back. Frame notches for my tie rods and tires, and notched control arms for my tire clearance, Roll cage corvette rear end and lot of time. not to mention the thought and math of it all. So i apreciate the postive feedback.
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Quote: Originally Posted by pavmentscreaming
About time I get some positive feedback, thanks sean. alot of work went into those doors and cab. Alot of unkown work went into it to, granted i sandblasted the frame with a 5gallon air compressor, took 3 months because it would rust as fast as i could sandblast. Not to mention the overall suspension work, including custom pitman arms to gain more steering and a fliped and widend draglink to get my ackerman geometry back. Frame notches for my tie rods and tires, and notched control arms for my tire clearance, Roll cage corvette rear end and lot of time. not to mention the thought and math of it all. So i apreciate the postive feedback.
hey dont worry about the rest, its your truck. i came back in here twice yesterday just to look at it lol. it reminds me of the nascar trucks, low and wide, and the front bumper just completes the whole package. i would love to do my first gen, but its just too much work. again it looks great, cant wait to see it with paint.
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Okay well I was going to wait to put the dana 36 back together, Needed to buy new gears because the stock 2:56:1 was a little high. I was on wiki and noticed the c4 stock made 240 hp and the same amount of torque the sr20 makes. Remembering how the s10 doesnt have any weight in the back anyways im thinking the 2 series gear will be okay back there. Just roast the tires off faster, I dont know, what do you guys think? Run the gear untill i get it put together for a test drive to really see, or change it now; mabye wasting my time and money? Im not sure what the sr20's tranny gears are or how to calculate the final drive. Anyone know how to do this?
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just mulitiply the tranny ratio by the rear end ratio to get final drive.

heres a bunch of nissan SR specs
http://nissans15.com/spec.htm

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Transmission SR20DET SR20DE SR20DET/DE
6-speed manual 5-speed manual 4-speed auto
1st gear ratio 3.626 3.321 2.785
2nd gear ratio 2.200 1.902 1.545
3rd gear ratio 1.541 1.308 1.000
4th gear ratio 1.213 1.000 0.694
5th gear ratio 1.000 0.838 -
6th gear ratio 0.767 - -

so for example we can take the 5th gear of the DE 5speed of 0.838 and multiply it by the 2.56 gear. final drive with that tranny and gear would be 2.15:1.
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yeah 4th gears 1 to 1, so looks like 3rd gear would be the best gear at 3.35 to 1. I guess ill leave it in there for now, put my money else where. Mabyee some coilovers for the rear and new universial joints. Ill get the rear end torqued back up and get some pictures.
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I'm like the wide body direction. It's definitely unique and if you do it right I could see it working. Keep up the good work man, looking forward to seeing some videos of it.
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