And so it begins... Project "Turbo X"

Black X · 12-20-2007, 11:33 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Zerocool350

Oh was that a secret?

Nope, no secrets here... Well maybe a few

Just saying thanks for the well wishes

Zerocool350 · 12-20-2007, 11:33 AM

oops man, sorry about that

Zerocool350 · 12-20-2007, 11:37 AM

Oh ok gotcha. It should be a fun project. So when are you going to fly down to my neck of the woods and help build my truck? LOL j/k

Thanatos56 · 12-20-2007, 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

BOTH!!!!

Are you planning as I suggested? Nitrous to eliminate turbo lag with the extra long plenum? Or are you planning to keep the nitrous flowing while generating 1 atmosphere of boost? That would sound kinda like inviting Fate and Karma to attend a recreation of the Big Bang Theorem...

Black X · 12-20-2007, 02:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Thanatos56

Are you planning as I suggested? Nitrous to eliminate turbo lag with the extra long plenum? Or are you planning to keep the nitrous flowing while generating 1 atmosphere of boost? That would sound kinda like inviting Fate and Karma to attend a recreation of the Big Bang Theorem...

You Bet, Leave on a 125-150 hit and let the Boost reference work its magic slowly pulling nitrous out as boost comes in. There will be no sitting at the light trying to build boost for me

I may leave a 50 or so in it all the way for a cooling effect.

Zerocool350 · 12-20-2007, 03:19 PM

how does that boost reference work?

Black X · 12-20-2007, 05:51 PM

it allows me to control the nitrous based on boost level. How ever I choose to set it... Lots of bottle when boost is low, little or no bottle when boost is high. Thats how I plan to use it anyway.

NateZQ8 · 12-20-2007, 06:10 PM

Good lord........with a solid hit of gas you might be looking at a low 10 second truck..........wow. The cage is still going in as planned this winter? VERY nice as always black, and thanks for keeping the rest of us inspired.

Nate

Black X · 12-20-2007, 07:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NateZQ8

Good lord........with a solid hit of gas you might be looking at a low 10 second truck..........wow. The cage is still going in as planned this winter? VERY nice as always black, and thanks for keeping the rest of us inspired.

Nate

You bet Truck is in a thousand peices now in preperation for the cage. Actually Bar for now.. Good to 10.00@135mph. I plan to basicly sit right on that number.

Thank you for the compliments

PEKO · 12-21-2007, 02:21 PM

so just keep working your way down by a second or so everytime lol, so 3 more engine combos from now youll be what 7's? lol

Black X · 12-21-2007, 02:49 PM

7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both.

guhman2002 · 12-21-2007, 04:24 PM

Hey Black I meant to ask... Do you have access to anymore LSX cores? I cant find any from around here and I was wondering if you knew... Just trying to get one now before they disappear.

Black X · 12-21-2007, 04:26 PM

They are all over around here. The pricing isnt as good as some of the southern states. But There are plenty in my area.

What you lookin to spend?

rmeitz167 · 12-21-2007, 09:05 PM

damn...

me_stephans · 12-21-2007, 10:46 PM

guhman2002 were in ohio are you i have a friend that owns a auto machine shop that had a complete 4.8 and 5.3 sittin on the shelf for sale last time i was their. pm me if you might be interested.

me_stephans · 12-21-2007, 10:47 PM

Black X are you using the stock crank or an aftermarket one?
P.S. The truck is wicked makes me want to un-bag mine and do an LSX swap!!!!

Black X · 12-22-2007, 03:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by me_stephans

Black X are you using the stock crank or an aftermarket one?
P.S. The truck is wicked makes me want to un-bag mine and do an LSX swap!!!!

95% sure I will be using stock crank. I still have not ordered the rotating parts so there is a small chance this will end up a 408 single turbo but not likely.

s10baller2000 · 12-22-2007, 06:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both.

thats what is sooooo cool about your truck!!! drive it to the track then pull a 10.00 1/4!! THATS AWSOME

cant wait to see the vids of it all done. good luck!

Black X · 12-22-2007, 10:17 PM

Nitrous controller installed

sonomaguy · 12-23-2007, 01:09 AM

Beautiful truck, I still need a ride some day. Man, 27MPG, that's awesome, may have to get you to do mine for me. Maybe when you pull the old motor and put the new one in you can just drop it into my truck.

cam75w/ls1 · 12-23-2007, 08:13 PM

Looks like you beat me to it. I've got a S-10 frame right now that I'm cutting up to put my 408 stroker in. Was going to go twin turbos but decided since Kooks came out w/ a header for the 2006-2008 Trailblazer SS that I'm going to get a 1 7/8" to 2" stepped header to fit my frame. I'm going naturally aspirated w/ the stroker. I'm trying to see if I can convert to rack and pinion for more room. The block is in the machine shop right now and the rotating assembly is all Callies. The pistons are Diamond brand,the heads are L92 w/ hollow valves,modified carbed intake w/ intake elbow. Should be seeing 550-600hp on street tune and more on race tune. The killer for me on the turbo idea was running intercooler plumbing. I'm running a T56 w/ the Viper tail shaft and housing. I'm still driving the donor truck right now until the frame is ready. I ended up w/ three S10's this year so I have plenty to cut up. I'll be watching your thread.

NCRides · 12-23-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by cam75w/ls1

Looks like you beat me to it. I've got a S-10 frame right now that I'm cutting up to put my 408 stroker in. Was going to go twin turbos but decided since Kooks came out w/ a header for the 2006-2008 Trailblazer SS that I'm going to get a 1 7/8" to 2" stepped header to fit my frame. I'm going naturally aspirated w/ the stroker. I'm trying to see if I can convert to rack and pinion for more room. The block is in the machine shop right now and the rotating assembly is all Callies. The pistons are Diamond brand,the heads are L92 w/ hollow valves,modified carbed intake w/ intake elbow. Should be seeing 550-600hp on street tune and more on race tune. The killer for me on the turbo idea was running intercooler plumbing. I'm running a T56 w/ the Viper tail shaft and housing. I'm still driving the donor truck right now until the frame is ready. I ended up w/ three S10's this year so I have plenty to cut up. I'll be watching your thread.

Thats the nice part of what BlackX is doing, with a remote turbo there is little need for an intercooler since it is so far from the engine the air temps are cooler, it also leaves more room and less heat in the engine compartment...The hard part is getting the plumbing up past the engine there isn't much space to do this.....Awesome project can't wait to see more progress

BudRacing · 12-23-2007, 09:29 PM

Why didn't I see this coming sooner? You're nuckin futz dude.

cam75w/ls1 · 12-25-2007, 10:01 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Yes I was running sandersons. And this setup will also use the sandersons.

The Sandersons will work fine. I built a turbo setup on a 2000 Camaro using the stock cast iron 6.0 truck manifolds and made 865rwhp on the dyno. Was going to use the same on the S10 until the idea changed.

bigjsp · 12-25-2007, 12:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both.

7's is faster than most realize,

subscribing to what looks like a successful project.

What convertor stall and rear gear are you starting with?

JonathanMaples · 12-26-2007, 11:14 AM

you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions.

SoLowXtreme · 12-26-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by JonathanMaples

you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions.

i'm pretty sure he already is down to where he NEEDS a cage

cam75w/ls1 · 12-26-2007, 09:01 PM

This was the turbonetics turbo I have that I decided not to go with. Probably will use it on something else. It's a 68mm w/ a custom anti-surge inlet. Has a Garret center section,4" v band exhaust,3" compressor out. Good for about 650hp.

Rompn · 12-26-2007, 10:23 PM

Nice plan for the build X. Keep the pictures coming. Subscribing again...

Black X · 12-27-2007, 02:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bigjsp

7's is faster than most realize,

subscribing to what looks like a successful project.

What convertor stall and rear gear are you starting with?

The current converter is a 4400RPM but I will be stepping back to the 3600 I had earlier this year.

Current Gears are 3.73 and will also be stepping down to 3.55's

Black X · 12-27-2007, 02:48 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by JonathanMaples

you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions.

It deffinatly needs the cage. The total weight addition between turbo and cage will be about 200 lbs all together. Current weight is 3850 with driver and will prolly sit about 4000 with me when this project is all done.

Gonna have to make a little extra jam to offset the added weight but I think I can do that.

12-20-2007, 11:33 AM	#51
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Zerocool350 Oh was that a secret? Nope, no secrets here... Well maybe a few Just saying thanks for the well wishes
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12-20-2007, 11:33 AM	#52
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 646 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" oops man, sorry about that
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12-20-2007, 11:37 AM	#53
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 646 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Oh ok gotcha. It should be a fun project. So when are you going to fly down to my neck of the woods and help build my truck? LOL j/k
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12-20-2007, 01:28 PM	#54
Thanatos56 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 74 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Black X BOTH!!!! Are you planning as I suggested? Nitrous to eliminate turbo lag with the extra long plenum? Or are you planning to keep the nitrous flowing while generating 1 atmosphere of boost? That would sound kinda like inviting Fate and Karma to attend a recreation of the Big Bang Theorem...
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12-20-2007, 02:16 PM	#55
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Thanatos56 Are you planning as I suggested? Nitrous to eliminate turbo lag with the extra long plenum? Or are you planning to keep the nitrous flowing while generating 1 atmosphere of boost? That would sound kinda like inviting Fate and Karma to attend a recreation of the Big Bang Theorem... You Bet, Leave on a 125-150 hit and let the Boost reference work its magic slowly pulling nitrous out as boost comes in. There will be no sitting at the light trying to build boost for me I may leave a 50 or so in it all the way for a cooling effect.
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12-20-2007, 03:19 PM	#56
Zerocool350 Sdimess84 Age: 23 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 646 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" how does that boost reference work?
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12-20-2007, 05:51 PM	#57
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" it allows me to control the nitrous based on boost level. How ever I choose to set it... Lots of bottle when boost is low, little or no bottle when boost is high. Thats how I plan to use it anyway.
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12-20-2007, 06:10 PM	#58
NateZQ8 WHAAAh? Age: 26 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,315 Location: IOWA, land of Corn and Pork User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Good lord........with a solid hit of gas you might be looking at a low 10 second truck..........wow. The cage is still going in as planned this winter? VERY nice as always black, and thanks for keeping the rest of us inspired. Nate
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12-20-2007, 07:17 PM	#59
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by NateZQ8 Good lord........with a solid hit of gas you might be looking at a low 10 second truck..........wow. The cage is still going in as planned this winter? VERY nice as always black, and thanks for keeping the rest of us inspired. Nate You bet Truck is in a thousand peices now in preperation for the cage. Actually Bar for now.. Good to 10.00@135mph. I plan to basicly sit right on that number. Thank you for the compliments
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12-21-2007, 02:21 PM	#60
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 30 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,810 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" so just keep working your way down by a second or so everytime lol, so 3 more engine combos from now youll be what 7's? lol
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12-21-2007, 02:49 PM	#61
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" 7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both.
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12-21-2007, 04:24 PM	#62
guhman2002 Nitto1320 M O D Age: 20 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,508 Location: Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Hey Black I meant to ask... Do you have access to anymore LSX cores? I cant find any from around here and I was wondering if you knew... Just trying to get one now before they disappear.
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12-21-2007, 04:26 PM	#63
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" They are all over around here. The pricing isnt as good as some of the southern states. But There are plenty in my area. What you lookin to spend?
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12-21-2007, 09:05 PM	#64
rmeitz167 my truck is slow Age: 19 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 411 Location: PA User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" damn...
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12-21-2007, 10:46 PM	#65
me_stephans Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" guhman2002 were in ohio are you i have a friend that owns a auto machine shop that had a complete 4.8 and 5.3 sittin on the shelf for sale last time i was their. pm me if you might be interested.
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12-21-2007, 10:47 PM	#66
me_stephans Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Black X are you using the stock crank or an aftermarket one? P.S. The truck is wicked makes me want to un-bag mine and do an LSX swap!!!! Last edited by me_stephans : 12-21-2007 at 10:49 PM.
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12-22-2007, 03:44 AM	#67
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by me_stephans Black X are you using the stock crank or an aftermarket one? P.S. The truck is wicked makes me want to un-bag mine and do an LSX swap!!!! 95% sure I will be using stock crank. I still have not ordered the rotating parts so there is a small chance this will end up a 408 single turbo but not likely.
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12-22-2007, 06:46 PM	#68
s10baller2000 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 272 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Black X 7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both. thats what is sooooo cool about your truck!!! drive it to the track then pull a 10.00 1/4!! THATS AWSOME cant wait to see the vids of it all done. good luck!
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12-22-2007, 10:17 PM	#69
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Nitrous controller installed Last edited by Black X : 12-22-2007 at 10:36 PM.
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12-23-2007, 01:09 AM	#70
sonomaguy Scoop Age: 47 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,395 Location: Alberta,Canada User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Beautiful truck, I still need a ride some day. Man, 27MPG, that's awesome, may have to get you to do mine for me. Maybe when you pull the old motor and put the new one in you can just drop it into my truck.
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12-23-2007, 08:13 PM	#71
cam75w/ls1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Texas User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Looks like you beat me to it. I've got a S-10 frame right now that I'm cutting up to put my 408 stroker in. Was going to go twin turbos but decided since Kooks came out w/ a header for the 2006-2008 Trailblazer SS that I'm going to get a 1 7/8" to 2" stepped header to fit my frame. I'm going naturally aspirated w/ the stroker. I'm trying to see if I can convert to rack and pinion for more room. The block is in the machine shop right now and the rotating assembly is all Callies. The pistons are Diamond brand,the heads are L92 w/ hollow valves,modified carbed intake w/ intake elbow. Should be seeing 550-600hp on street tune and more on race tune. The killer for me on the turbo idea was running intercooler plumbing. I'm running a T56 w/ the Viper tail shaft and housing. I'm still driving the donor truck right now until the frame is ready. I ended up w/ three S10's this year so I have plenty to cut up. I'll be watching your thread.
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12-23-2007, 08:45 PM	#72
NCRides Registered User Age: 52 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 127 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by cam75w/ls1 Looks like you beat me to it. I've got a S-10 frame right now that I'm cutting up to put my 408 stroker in. Was going to go twin turbos but decided since Kooks came out w/ a header for the 2006-2008 Trailblazer SS that I'm going to get a 1 7/8" to 2" stepped header to fit my frame. I'm going naturally aspirated w/ the stroker. I'm trying to see if I can convert to rack and pinion for more room. The block is in the machine shop right now and the rotating assembly is all Callies. The pistons are Diamond brand,the heads are L92 w/ hollow valves,modified carbed intake w/ intake elbow. Should be seeing 550-600hp on street tune and more on race tune. The killer for me on the turbo idea was running intercooler plumbing. I'm running a T56 w/ the Viper tail shaft and housing. I'm still driving the donor truck right now until the frame is ready. I ended up w/ three S10's this year so I have plenty to cut up. I'll be watching your thread. Thats the nice part of what BlackX is doing, with a remote turbo there is little need for an intercooler since it is so far from the engine the air temps are cooler, it also leaves more room and less heat in the engine compartment...The hard part is getting the plumbing up past the engine there isn't much space to do this.....Awesome project can't wait to see more progress Last edited by NCRides : 12-23-2007 at 08:49 PM.
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12-23-2007, 09:29 PM	#73
BudRacing Molon Labe Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,312 Location: Statesboro, Ga User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Why didn't I see this coming sooner? You're nuckin futz dude.
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12-25-2007, 10:01 AM	#74
cam75w/ls1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 107 Location: Texas User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Black X Yes I was running sandersons. And this setup will also use the sandersons. The Sandersons will work fine. I built a turbo setup on a 2000 Camaro using the stock cast iron 6.0 truck manifolds and made 865rwhp on the dyno. Was going to use the same on the S10 until the idea changed.
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12-25-2007, 12:26 PM	#75
bigjsp Registered User Age: 47 Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 792 Location: Columbus, OH User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by Black X 7's sounds fun, but I want to be able to drive it to the track. I dont think I would be able to comfortably do both. 7's is faster than most realize, subscribing to what looks like a successful project. What convertor stall and rear gear are you starting with?
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12-26-2007, 11:14 AM	#76
JonathanMaples Y would you wanna do that Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 183 Location: south of dallas User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions.
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12-26-2007, 05:34 PM	#77
SoLowXtreme JJ's Automotive Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,314 Location: PITTSBURGH,PA User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by JonathanMaples you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions. i'm pretty sure he already is down to where he NEEDS a cage
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12-26-2007, 10:23 PM	#79
Rompn INNOVATIVE FABRICATIONS Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 2,663 Location: Orange County, CA User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Nice plan for the build X. Keep the pictures coming. Subscribing again...
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12-27-2007, 02:46 AM	#80
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by bigjsp 7's is faster than most realize, subscribing to what looks like a successful project. What convertor stall and rear gear are you starting with? The current converter is a 4400RPM but I will be stepping back to the 3600 I had earlier this year. Current Gears are 3.73 and will also be stepping down to 3.55's
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12-27-2007, 02:48 AM	#81
Black X 9.88@140.86 Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,435 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: And so it begins... Project "Turbo X" Quote: Originally Posted by JonathanMaples you said your adding a rollbar. do you plan on getting down to where you needa cage or just happy with an ungodly quick streeter. how much weight are adding? and how much weight are you at? just wondering on the last 2 questions. It deffinatly needs the cage. The total weight addition between turbo and cage will be about 200 lbs all together. Current weight is 3850 with driver and will prolly sit about 4000 with me when this project is all done. Gonna have to make a little extra jam to offset the added weight but I think I can do that.
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