weight difference between 1 and 2 gen

txsilverado · 06-22-2009, 11:40 AM

whats the weight difference between the first and 2nd generation s10's? i found alot of information on the first gen trucks but nothing on the 2nd generation...

im looking at single cab short box pickups in both models. 2wd. im looking at building a drag truck.

jeffs99dime · 06-22-2009, 12:16 PM

need to know exact years for each gen and motor sizes

txsilverado · 06-22-2009, 12:48 PM

either truck will be getting a LS1 and 4L60e

which year is lightest on each vehicle? they all look about the same to year by year.

AWD V8 · 06-22-2009, 12:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by txsilverado

which year is lightest on each vehicle? they all look about the same to year by year.

My guess would be a 1st gen short box 2wd, with little to no options.

txsilverado · 06-22-2009, 01:14 PM

on average, how much heavier would a 2nd gen s10 extreme single cab short bed stepside be over a first generation single cab short box?

just looking for a rough estimate. nothing exact. if its only a few hundred i would sacrifice that for the styling of the 2nd gen. its more my style.

here is my current truck

im wanting to take the drivetrain from this truck and stuff it into a s10. my current best in the 1/4 is a 11.65@117 from last weekend in texas heat. spun through 2nd gear.

thats my main reason for swapping it to a s10..lighter weight and better traction.

XDime99 · 06-24-2009, 02:36 PM

Hey dude, wikipedia(SP?) them shits bro, i found out how much my X-cab X weighed on there, they have scales for the years and engine types, its a lotta reading, but you can learn a LOT about S-10's from it!

heavychevy09 · 06-30-2009, 03:25 AM

i believe the first gen is around 400#s lighter

devil boy · 07-01-2009, 08:51 AM

My 2003 S-10 regular cab with a stepside weighs about 3050 lbs. I have a 50-70 lbs tonneus cover on the back, so you could probably subtract a bit from that total. Here's a simple diagram with the corner weights and info when I had it corner scaled.

I don't know what a 1st gen weighs, but I hope this helps give you some kind of comparison.

kamesama980 · 07-04-2009, 02:44 PM

'87, short cab, short bed, 2.5 4 cyl, 4 speed manual, 2wd, base as can be.
2700lbs empty

scottymizt · 07-08-2009, 09:48 PM

my 99 standard cab short box weighs 3600 with out me in it but i do have about a 200lb box,20's, and a different engine. I will tell you that the frames are boxed farther down on the second gen vs the first gen. The crossmembers for the tranny are different too, the second gen is heavier built, imo i'd rather have the second gen for the extra support vs the first gen's lighter weight.

txsilverado · 08-20-2009, 03:44 PM

dude, i know im late, but you ROCK!

thats the best answer ive seen through all of my searching. everything else says that the trucks are up around 4,000 lbs. i found a 2001 s10 xtreme for 1,500 that im going to look at today. no motor and no transmission. perfect for what im looking to do!

Quote: Originally Posted by devil boy

My 2003 S-10 regular cab with a stepside weighs about 3050 lbs. I have a 50-70 lbs tonneus cover on the back, so you could probably subtract a bit from that total. Here's a simple diagram with the corner weights and info when I had it corner scaled.

I don't know what a 1st gen weighs, but I hope this helps give you some kind of comparison.

montec · 08-21-2009, 04:21 PM

My '83 with the front diff and all the axles out in front with me in it unloaded was about 2900lbs or so.

meyers2211 · 08-22-2009, 05:30 PM

idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger.

my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside

montec · 08-23-2009, 01:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger.

my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside

No front diff or axles in the front. I have a/c delete and no power anyting. And yes it has the 2.8L v-6 with a 700r4. Running the 5spoke 4x4 rims and had lt235/75r15 tires. I had it basically all cleaned out nice no sub box and its a reg cab LB. And thats what the scale said @ the dump after my load of carpet and sheetrock that put my truck in @ 5600lbs going in.

devil boy · 08-24-2009, 04:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by montec

No front diff or axles in the front. I have a/c delete and no power anyting. And yes it has the 2.8L v-6 with a 700r4. Running the 5spoke 4x4 rims and had lt235/75r15 tires. I had it basically all cleaned out nice no sub box and its a reg cab LB. And thats what the scale said @ the dump after my load of carpet and sheetrock that put my truck in @ 5600lbs going in.

Just a thought, but it may be the type or calibration of the scales you were using. I wouldn't trust those scrap yard / big truck scales. The scales I used were the Longacre Racing digital scales that measure all four wheels and give you your corner weights and front and rear weight differential. I have more faith in those readings than any other scale that might be out there.

montec · 08-24-2009, 10:53 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by devil boy

Just a thought, but it may be the type or calibration of the scales you were using. I wouldn't trust those scrap yard / big truck scales. The scales I used were the Longacre Racing digital scales that measure all four wheels and give you your corner weights and front and rear weight differential. I have more faith in those readings than any other scale that might be out there.

Yeah but with a certified scale I can get my weight on my registration lowered so that I pay less for renewal. I pay the same as a 1ton truck since the DMV has the weight @ 6800lbs.

The Blown Blazer · 08-25-2009, 01:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211

idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger.

my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside

My Xtreme reg cab with a SBC with iron heads, 700r4, 15" steel wheels, and a fuel cell weighed 3240 without me in it.

v8lonoma · 08-26-2009, 12:55 AM

id say get a 2nd gen and make it lighter..

if its going to be a drag truck theres a lot of things you can do to reduce weight. take out the inner fenders, fiberglass hood, take out the HVAC system. aftermarket seats. suppose you could throw a light soft bed cover on it and cut the bed floor out.

btw my second gen was about 33-3400 with me in it.. and im no lightweight either. sbc, havnt removed the hvac or inners yet. stock gas tank. cant remember if that was with the 18s or drag rims either. ill be weighin it again soon with no hvac and no inners.

06-22-2009, 11:40 AM	#1
txsilverado Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: User is: OffLine	weight difference between 1 and 2 gen whats the weight difference between the first and 2nd generation s10's? i found alot of information on the first gen trucks but nothing on the 2nd generation... im looking at single cab short box pickups in both models. 2wd. im looking at building a drag truck.
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06-22-2009, 12:16 PM	#2
jeffs99dime NOBODY FUX WIT DA JESUS! Age: 30 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 261 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen need to know exact years for each gen and motor sizes
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06-22-2009, 12:48 PM	#3
txsilverado Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen either truck will be getting a LS1 and 4L60e which year is lightest on each vehicle? they all look about the same to year by year.
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06-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#4
AWD V8 Registered User Age: 56 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 378 Location: Vancouver, BC User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Quote: Originally Posted by txsilverado which year is lightest on each vehicle? they all look about the same to year by year. My guess would be a 1st gen short box 2wd, with little to no options.
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06-22-2009, 01:14 PM	#5
txsilverado Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen on average, how much heavier would a 2nd gen s10 extreme single cab short bed stepside be over a first generation single cab short box? just looking for a rough estimate. nothing exact. if its only a few hundred i would sacrifice that for the styling of the 2nd gen. its more my style. here is my current truck im wanting to take the drivetrain from this truck and stuff it into a s10. my current best in the 1/4 is a 11.65@117 from last weekend in texas heat. spun through 2nd gear. thats my main reason for swapping it to a s10..lighter weight and better traction.
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06-24-2009, 02:36 PM	#6
XDime99 Registered User Age: 17 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 366 Location: Gainesville, Fl User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Hey dude, wikipedia(SP?) them shits bro, i found out how much my X-cab X weighed on there, they have scales for the years and engine types, its a lotta reading, but you can learn a LOT about S-10's from it!
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06-30-2009, 03:25 AM	#7
heavychevy09 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 29 Location: de pere, WI User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen i believe the first gen is around 400#s lighter
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07-01-2009, 08:51 AM	#8
devil boy You can't polish a turd. Age: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 240 Location: Hawaii - stationed in S. Korea - chillin' in the Philippines User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen My 2003 S-10 regular cab with a stepside weighs about 3050 lbs. I have a 50-70 lbs tonneus cover on the back, so you could probably subtract a bit from that total. Here's a simple diagram with the corner weights and info when I had it corner scaled. I don't know what a 1st gen weighs, but I hope this helps give you some kind of comparison.
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07-04-2009, 02:44 PM	#9
kamesama980 The Eye is watching you!! Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 917 Location: dekalb, IL, USA User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen '87, short cab, short bed, 2.5 4 cyl, 4 speed manual, 2wd, base as can be. 2700lbs empty
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07-08-2009, 09:48 PM	#10
scottymizt rb25det inside :D Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 341 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen my 99 standard cab short box weighs 3600 with out me in it but i do have about a 200lb box,20's, and a different engine. I will tell you that the frames are boxed farther down on the second gen vs the first gen. The crossmembers for the tranny are different too, the second gen is heavier built, imo i'd rather have the second gen for the extra support vs the first gen's lighter weight.
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08-20-2009, 03:44 PM	#11
txsilverado Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen dude, i know im late, but you ROCK! thats the best answer ive seen through all of my searching. everything else says that the trucks are up around 4,000 lbs. i found a 2001 s10 xtreme for 1,500 that im going to look at today. no motor and no transmission. perfect for what im looking to do! Quote: Originally Posted by devil boy My 2003 S-10 regular cab with a stepside weighs about 3050 lbs. I have a 50-70 lbs tonneus cover on the back, so you could probably subtract a bit from that total. Here's a simple diagram with the corner weights and info when I had it corner scaled. I don't know what a 1st gen weighs, but I hope this helps give you some kind of comparison.
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08-21-2009, 04:21 PM	#12
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,045 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen My '83 with the front diff and all the axles out in front with me in it unloaded was about 2900lbs or so.
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08-22-2009, 05:30 PM	#13
meyers2211 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,860 Location: Lindenhurst NY User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger. my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside
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08-23-2009, 01:48 PM	#14
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,045 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger. my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside No front diff or axles in the front. I have a/c delete and no power anyting. And yes it has the 2.8L v-6 with a 700r4. Running the 5spoke 4x4 rims and had lt235/75r15 tires. I had it basically all cleaned out nice no sub box and its a reg cab LB. And thats what the scale said @ the dump after my load of carpet and sheetrock that put my truck in @ 5600lbs going in.
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08-24-2009, 04:55 AM	#15
devil boy You can't polish a turd. Age: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 240 Location: Hawaii - stationed in S. Korea - chillin' in the Philippines User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Quote: Originally Posted by montec No front diff or axles in the front. I have a/c delete and no power anyting. And yes it has the 2.8L v-6 with a 700r4. Running the 5spoke 4x4 rims and had lt235/75r15 tires. I had it basically all cleaned out nice no sub box and its a reg cab LB. And thats what the scale said @ the dump after my load of carpet and sheetrock that put my truck in @ 5600lbs going in. Just a thought, but it may be the type or calibration of the scales you were using. I wouldn't trust those scrap yard / big truck scales. The scales I used were the Longacre Racing digital scales that measure all four wheels and give you your corner weights and front and rear weight differential. I have more faith in those readings than any other scale that might be out there.
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08-24-2009, 10:53 AM	#16
montec Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,045 Location: North Dakota User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Quote: Originally Posted by devil boy Just a thought, but it may be the type or calibration of the scales you were using. I wouldn't trust those scrap yard / big truck scales. The scales I used were the Longacre Racing digital scales that measure all four wheels and give you your corner weights and front and rear weight differential. I have more faith in those readings than any other scale that might be out there. Yeah but with a certified scale I can get my weight on my registration lowered so that I pay less for renewal. I pay the same as a 1ton truck since the DMV has the weight @ 6800lbs.
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08-25-2009, 01:02 AM	#17
The Blown Blazer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 3,113 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen Quote: Originally Posted by meyers2211 idk how u got urs to weigh 3000 unless its a 4banger. my v6 turbo, with no ac component, CF hood, slicks and skinnies on drag wheels, step shavers, has never been under 3k lbs. When i got the truck it was 3850 w/driver. reg cab stepside My Xtreme reg cab with a SBC with iron heads, 700r4, 15" steel wheels, and a fuel cell weighed 3240 without me in it.
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08-26-2009, 12:55 AM	#18
v8lonoma drag racin > dragin frame Age: 21 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,210 Location: Rotterdam, NY User is: OffLine	Re: weight difference between 1 and 2 gen id say get a 2nd gen and make it lighter.. if its going to be a drag truck theres a lot of things you can do to reduce weight. take out the inner fenders, fiberglass hood, take out the HVAC system. aftermarket seats. suppose you could throw a light soft bed cover on it and cut the bed floor out. btw my second gen was about 33-3400 with me in it.. and im no lightweight either. sbc, havnt removed the hvac or inners yet. stock gas tank. cant remember if that was with the 18s or drag rims either. ill be weighin it again soon with no hvac and no inners.
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