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Old 11-05-2009, 12:55 PM   #1
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Smile SHOW YOUR 6x9's

show your 6x9's where you mounted themm and what you have
gooo...
Old 11-05-2009, 06:07 PM   #2
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Re: SHOW YOUR 6x9's

OOOHHH! I'll make the first smart ass comment! Ahem:

"I wouldn't really call it a mount. I kinda just laid them in the trash can."

or...

"This thread's a day late; trash pickup is on Thursdays."




I digress. Where are/did you put 6x9's in your truck?
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who the hell uses 6x9's unless they are going in the back deck of a car...
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Re: SHOW YOUR 6x9's

Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma
who the hell uses 6x9's unless they are going in the back deck of a car...
Old 11-05-2009, 07:09 PM   #5
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Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma
who the hell uses 6x9's unless they are going in the back deck of a car...
2-door blazers! geez
Old 11-05-2009, 07:14 PM   #6
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yeah yeah...how about the front doors of a jeep cherokee? or the dash of a older astro van? huh...what now!
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or the newer Toyota's front doors and rear deck or Dodge truck's front doors, or older cars, I can do this all day as I AM an installer
Old 11-05-2009, 07:29 PM   #8
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Quote: Originally Posted by Forklift
or the newer Toyota's front doors and rear deck or Dodge truck's front doors, or older cars, I can do this all day as I AM an installer
you wanna battle??

how many cars/trucks came with 4x6 all around?
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Re: SHOW YOUR 6x9's

the real question is..... who in their right mind would reinstall 6x9s? conical sound wave out an oval speaker cone equals instant distortion!
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Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma
you wanna battle??

how many cars/trucks came with 4x6 all around?

1.75 vehicles
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobditts
the real question is..... who in their right mind would reinstall 6x9s? conical sound wave out an oval speaker cone equals instant distortion!
a nice set of 6x9's dont sound that bad... unless ya over drive them, but thats any speaker i guess.
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Quote: Originally Posted by 98layinframe
a nice set of 6x9's dont sound that bad... unless ya over drive them, but thats any speaker i guess.
regardless of your opinion of "good", are you trying to argue with physics?
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no im not... but then again this is s10forum. If ya really want to argue about something that "works" but yet breaks every rule of physics, then check out all the reverse 4 link threads.

In comparison saying a 6x9 works is alittle further down on my lists of things to worry about.
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i have heard some pretty good sounding 6x9's in my day...been doing this shit for years and have worked on a shit load of cars and put in a shit load of amped 6x9's
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Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma
i have heard some pretty good sounding 6x9's in my day...been doing this shit for years and have worked on a shit load of cars and put in a shit load of amped 6x9's
and all will sound worse than a round speaker


yes, I wanna battle tonight, my necks been locked up all day
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everyone sayes the shape is what makes it sound so "bad" so who wants to explain the physics behind it.. ?
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I have heard some great sounding 6x9's in the past too. Right now mine's sporting the stockers.

As far as sound quality, the shape of the speaker has nothing to do with the sound reproduction. Sound travels in waves made by compressing the air around the sound producing object. Since sound naturally wants to resonate in all directions the sound waves are round. That doesn't mean the object producing the sound must be round. Musicians commonly use a tuning fork for perfect pitch when tuning an instrument, nothing round about that. How about that perfect CRAAaCK when a tree snaps and falls to the ground. Nothing around that has any uniform shape at all, but the sound waves that are produced would be perfectly round if you could see them. Anyway I'm not trying to argue, I'm just stating the facts.
Old 11-05-2009, 11:39 PM   #18
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.....I has 6x9s.....


It was just a quick fix...that has lasted too long. haha. Went to wally world...bought an xplod amp and 4 6x9s...made a shitty "box" and through the speakers in...they suck, but I prefer the sound over what it was before (Just my opinion)

...No pics though...I try not to bring up the fact that I have them all that often, especially around here...
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I have 6x9s in the factory spots on my blazer, 6.5s in the front kicks tho, nothing in the dash anymore. Memphis 6x9s and they sound better than the factory crap but when/if I ever redo the rear panels I'm gonna shove 6.5s back there also. No amp as I just replaced the blown speakers and crappy factory radio with nothing over the top.
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I have heard some great sounding 6x9's in the past too. Right now mine's sporting the stockers.

As far as sound quality, the shape of the speaker has nothing to do with the sound reproduction.
this is not true at all. A sound wave is conical. Meaning it is shaped like a cone it a sound wave that is not distorted at all starts out as a small circle shape and gets slighlty larger the further away it gets from the originating source. If a sound wave is shaped from an eliptical cone (a 6x9) is it distorted from the start. A 6x9 can never sound as good as a comparative round speaker
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Quote: Originally Posted by Forklift
and all will sound worse than a round speaker
yes, I wanna battle tonight, my necks been locked up all day
dont get me wrong i agree that a round speaker will sound better then a oval one...but then again i like L7s..
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69? How do you mount 69 you ask? Usually the guy on bottom and girl on top. Oh wait....wrong topic...6x9's? Nah, I prefer 8's. LOL
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Quote: Originally Posted by 98layinframe
everyone sayes the shape is what makes it sound so "bad" so who wants to explain the physics behind it.. ?
drop a marble or round rock in water and see the waves it creates, now do the same with an oval rock, way different!
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Do you really wanna see my 6 x 9?
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in a Scion XA? sure
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Quote: Originally Posted by bobditts
this is not true at all. A sound wave is conical. Meaning it is shaped like a cone it a sound wave that is not distorted at all starts out as a small circle shape and gets slighlty larger the further away it gets from the originating source. If a sound wave is shaped from an eliptical cone (a 6x9) is it distorted from the start. A 6x9 can never sound as good as a comparative round speaker
Uhh......no. Sound waves travel in all directions, as I said earlier, meaning spherical. You're trying to explain how to get 300 horsepower from a smallblock, without ever having an engine apart. (That's an analogy.) I've taken the liberty of including a link where you might start your research on sound. http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/etext...r1_sound.shtml

Your welcome.
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bobditts, I talked to Chad on DIYMA about this very thing when asking him about the short comings with the L7's. All speakers have break up nodes, shapes other than round will have enherently more problems.

Here's the thing though; these nodes are going to be audible and apparent in the upper frequency range for a given size driver. Just as the frequency at which a speaker will begin to beam for any given size is fairly predictable, so is the onset at which these nodes will become audible.

From this, you can figure that a 6x9 will have an audible difference in harmonic distortion in the midrange as compared to a round speaker when used in a 2 way system, as in a typical coax. This howerver may not apply when being used in a midbass situation, such as the ID and Cadence dedicated midbass speakers; bearing the passband in which they are used.
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Uhh......no. Sound waves travel in all directions, as I said earlier, meaning spherical. You're trying to explain how to get 300 horsepower from a smallblock, without ever having an engine apart. (That's an analogy.) I've taken the liberty of including a link where you might start your research on sound. http://www.indiana.edu/~emusic/etext...r1_sound.shtml

Your welcome.

spherical? really? you are trying to tell me that a sound wave looks like a tennis ball? no, it looks like a cone. I will draw pictures later. I think we are on the same page, just not explaing it well enough. Either way, the cone of a speaker is what hels guide the sound wave to maintain its conical shape. If that speaker cone is oval, it distorts the shape of the wave.
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Sound waves are not emitted from a speakers in a conical shape; moreso spherical than an outward radiating deal like you are imagining. Google baffle step compensation, and you'll see the real deal.
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Hmmm...still no 6x9 pics...gosh darn it!
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Quote: Originally Posted by thunder94
Hmmm...still no 6x9 pics...gosh darn it!
thats because they suck, the answer is to put in a baffle with a 6 1/2 and a tweeter
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here, i'll give you the first google image result:


the best part is, the link originates from a site called "taco tunes." they must play mariachi music well.
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Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs
here, i'll give you the first google image result:


the best part is, the link originates from a site called "taco tunes." they must play mariachi music well.
the site sells speaker adapters for Tacomas, but Im sure you knew that
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We have our first pic!!!!!

32 posts later!
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woohoo!
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IN other words , if it calls for a 6x9 make a "plate" similar to the one in post #32 to bolt to the factory location , just use a 6.5 instead of a 6x9 ..

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That's what I did in my old Blazer. This time I'll probably go with a mid bass driver and a 3/4" silk dome tweeter.
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Quote: Originally Posted by thunder94
Hmmm...still no 6x9 pics...gosh darn it!
If I can bring myself to do it over the weekend...I will. haha
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Quote: Originally Posted by Myself
silk dome tweeter.
I love the sweet smooth sound of a silk dome. Im rocking the 1" silks in my daily driver / competition sedan.
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I totally agree, once you have them you don't want anything else. It seems like they are hard to find though.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Myself
I totally agree, once you have them you don't want anything else. It seems like they are hard to find though.
hard to find as a component set, yes. If you piece one together its pretty easy.
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Quote: Originally Posted by skinnyg
thats because they suck, the answer is to put in a baffle with a 6 1/2 and a tweeter
For what it's worth, I have yet to hear a set of 6x9's that sound better that the MTX xtd6903 thunder dome axials. Come with a rock solid grill cover to boot.

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