[Project] Jump seat box for orion comp 12

[95 pinkpanther]

Hey i don't think this is too hard but i want to be sure before i start, can i put a 12" jl w6v2 in a jumpseat box? i had two tens in my old s10, they looked like this

...kinda like a jump seat box, but with the panel cut and a lot bigger. i just got a new truck and i want a 12" w6 in just the jumpeat location, but i want to make sure they are not too deep or too wide to fit in there.

[monoxide_child]

ima draw out all the stuff tomarrow do i take 3/4 off all the sides?

[PhatBoy]

Yes, the measurements in my diagram do not take into account the thickness of your material. When the box is together your final measurements should be close to what is in my drawing.

[monoxide_child]

so the top is 14" im using 3/4 wood so it should be 13 1/4"

[V8S15Jimmy]

Here's something I found doing a search that might interest you guys

Sonoma.page

[monoxide_child]

any one wanna tell me if these are right i am using 3/4 wood



i dont want to go cut this out and have it be to small you know. oh the black wrighting are what i got.

[xtucking22s]

Quote: Originally Posted by V8S15Jimmy

Here's something I found doing a search that might interest you guys

Sonoma.page

linky no worky

[V8S15Jimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s

linky no worky

The guy built in on a geocities account.......if a bunch of people get on it pretty quick then it shuts down.......I would try again about 4:00 in the morning.

Edit: it's working right now

[xtucking22s]

oh awesome. that shit looks pretty good

[monoxide_child]

here are a few pics of my box. i still have to mount the ring.

[PhatBoy]

Make sure you screw that box together and fiberglass the shit out of the front. Gosta be strong enough to hold up to driving, and all. looks good so far.

[95 pinkpanther]

hey who has the dinensions of the bolts that these boxes bolt into? im building a box for two 10" w6's and im almost gettin to the point of finishing.

[monoxide_child]

Quote: Originally Posted by PhatBoy

Make sure you screw that box together and fiberglass the shit out of the front. Gosta be strong enough to hold up to driving, and all. looks good so far.

i air nailed the shit out of it.

[99SonomaHeavenS]

if i did it exactly like phatboy but i wanted to paint it couldnt i take the stretchy material (on outside) and ONLY put resin on it to paint it, or will the vibration cause it to crack? Im not talkinga bout from the ring to box, i will glass that, but just to make smooth for a paintable surface?

[95 pinkpanther]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99SonomaHeavenS

if i did it exactly like phatboy but i wanted to paint it couldnt i take the stretchy material (on outside) and ONLY put resin on it to paint it, or will the vibration cause it to crack? Im not talkinga bout from the ring to box, i will glass that, but just to make smooth for a paintable surface?

i dont know, but that is a good question, anybody else have any insight on this, i think we need nick over here!!!

[PhatBoy]

Quote: Originally Posted by 95 pinkpanther

i dont know, but that is a good question, anybody else have any insight on this, i think we need nick over here!!!

Yes you could do that with no problems. Just put a couple layers of resin on and get it as smooth as possible, then some bondo, and alot of sanding.

I was going to do the same thing, but I like the way the fabric matches my interior since my interior is still mostly stock.

[99SonomaHeavenS]

kk and the resin will stand up to the vibrations?

[PhatBoy]

Yeah just do a couple layers of resin and maybe on layer of glass mat. Itll stand up fine.

[95 pinkpanther]

i NEED the BOLT DIMENSIONS!

[PhatBoy]

I dont think I have them anymore. but its easy for you to get them after you build the box. Just set it in there and mark the bottom. I ended up cutting the foreward bold out and putting a bolt and nut through and through cause the stock bolt wasnt long enough. the back one ended up being just right.

[95 pinkpanther]

anyone else have them, i tried to do a test fit for my box today, but i couldnt cause it does sit down where i want it to be.

[95 pinkpanther]

alrighti got the hole pattern, they are 8 and 1/8 inch apart.

[99SonomaHeavenS]

eh explain how you are mounting them? is the bolt going in the box (airspace)?? or what?

[PhatBoy]

Yes the bolts are going into the box, I used some very large 2 inch washers to hold the box down, and sealed the washers down with silicon, before and after I tightened them down.. Trust me It doesnt leak.

[slmmedxtrme03]

i cant wait to start mine.
its gonna be sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

[slmmedxtrme03]

since im starting my jump seat box this summer i had some questions for the guys that have done this before. this will be my first time fiberglassing so it will probley be a challenge. anyway i was wondering i see some guys on here they used staples to mount their fabrics from the sub ring to the box then i saw some guys talking about model glue, well what about superglue?
and another thing, if i use a fabric like the first box started in this thread how many layers of glass should i use? anyway i would apperate any info you could give me thatll help me with this project. thanks.

[95 pinkpanther]

staple the fabric to the box, it works the best for this, you would use glue if you were glassing something onto plastic. no matter what fabric you use to start out with, you shoyuld keep adding layers until there is NO flexing WHATSOEVER you should be able to stand on your box and it shouldnt flex, about 12-14 layers should get you there.

[slmmedxtrme03]

alright thanks alot. but another question too, i could use regualer plywood too start my box out of right? thanks.

[PhatBoy]

You could use that. MDF is the best option. Just make sure you brace the plywood alot and youll be fine.

[slmmedxtrme03]

alright. i have plenty of plywood thats why i was asking, instead of buying more wood ill just use that.

[slmmedxtrme03]

one more thing, i wanna make sure i do everthing right, what kinda glue is the best to use to mount my dowls to sub ring and the box? hot glue,wood glue?

[PhatBoy]

I used 1x1 pieces of pine. With my supports being that large I was able to put screws through them from the back and sides. I held them in place with gorilla glue...that shit is strong.

[slmmedxtrme03]

alright so then ill just get some thick peices to put screws and gorilla glue on it. im probley gonna be using 1 12" kicker with a kicker amp thatll run it, and i herd some guys talking about airpace and shit, idk its confusing to me, but im thinking if i make a box just like you i should be fine right? thanks for all the help man, i dont want to put all this work into a box and then fvck it up. lol

[95 pinkpanther]

i would use hot glue at first, like just a little bit of it, to make sure everything stays where it is, then use gorilla glue around the peices to make sure they never come off.

[nimbyfaygo]

Ok I'm going to be starting on Jumpseat boxes for my truck too. I'm stepping down from the HUGE system I had, now I want something smaller and nicer looking.
I have some nice 48lb 10's so I'm going to be making two jumpboxes. Each one will be kinda big: 1.5cu, and they WILL be ported. I'm using a single 4in aeroport in each box. it calls for a 14in long port to get 35hz. So I'll just put a 90 in the port. I also have a 1000watt amp for each sub.
So I'm sure that it will pound
Yes its Lightning Audio stuff. The Subs are TC-Sound 3hp based. And the Amps are built by Rockford Fosgate. (Weird huh?)

[PhatBoy]

I wish you guys could hear this box...Almost a year later, and Im still lovin it....

Nymby dont you think that is overkill................













Nah....

[nimbyfaygo]

EH.... not really.
Going from Three 15's in a 13cu ft box, to Two 10's is going to be a pretty big drop!

[beandip]

Quote: Originally Posted by nimbyfaygo

EH.... not really.
Going from Three 15's in a 13cu ft box, to Two 10's is going to be a pretty big drop!

Just wondering...why are you sizing down?

[nimbyfaygo]

Quote: Originally Posted by beandip

Just wondering...why are you sizing down?

I don't have any seat space. I can't lean the seat back hardly at all. Plus the 15's didn't exactly sound very good, practically everything inside to truck would rattle too.

[95 pinkpanther]

your not going to have that much more seat space with a 1.5 cu foot jumpseat box, mine for my two tens is 1.6 cubic feet gross and its on the passenger side and the passenger seat cant lean back very far without hitting the box.

[Sir Toad]

there is virtually no cone area....just surrounds with those subs!

[95 pinkpanther]

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

there is virtually no cone area....just surrounds with those subs!

i know huh, its really just a 5.25" cone with 3" of foam on them

[Sir Toad]

that little dayton sitting beside it has more cone

[PhatBoy]

Itll be fun to watch something take those things to max excursion...

[nimbyfaygo]

Those Cone's are teh gayness! They do move a lot of air for 10's even with the tiny cone.

The jumpbox's are on hold until after Texas Heatwave, i don't have time to finish building even one before then.
I have one of them installed in my Civic for right now, its very clear and loud sounding, but its very power hungry.

[95 pinkpanther]

i need to see a video of one of them at max X, cuase that would be badass.

[nimbyfaygo]

Here are a few videos of it. One clip, it bottoms out so I quickly turn it down LOL.
BTW I shut off the Highpass filter for these clips.

[rockinguitar876]

so are u going to paint it or cover it??? what is the point of glassing it?? u cant do the same thing with wood?? just wondering

[Jmacsabo]

Does any one know if the measurments will work in a first gen?

[xtrememeasures]

LA is owned by rockford...not made by them. Those subs are horribly engineered. Like toad said look at the cone area. Less cone area means less air displaced. I got a seat box that i have one 10 inch type r powered by a v12 600 monoblock and it sounds great. I didnt cut out the plastic though