New System in the making!!!!

[bladehines]

Oh ok then i need to refigure some stuff!


well either way i will be running 19" long ports. and i will still have enough air space total. and it will be tuned between 32-35 with 4 ports and 43-45 with 6 ports

[skinnyg]

why dont you use external ports sticking out of the top so it looks like a pipe organ? You could also retune higher at shows like up in the mid 40's for spl, then retune it back down to like 32 for cruisin. Just a thought. I dunno, that might look too goofy

[bladehines]

Yep. it would look pretty goofy. but my idea will work for now. and using 6 ports total would tune the setup to 45 or so, and blocking off 3 of them would tune to 32 or so

[tstrenuous10]

is there a thread talking about port size and dimensions? I'm thinking of building a box for two 10s and I've heard aero ports are a little better. Just wondering how much port placement matters which I assume it matters A LOT.

[juddspaintballs]

Quote: Originally Posted by tstrenuous10

is there a thread talking about port size and dimensions? I'm thinking of building a box for two 10s and I've heard aero ports are a little better. Just wondering how much port placement matters which I assume it matters A LOT.

for some real answers to those questions, which the proof of physics, go ask your questions on www.hexibase.com/forum pete (hexibase) is a genius and has been doing this for years.


oh and bladehines: i know you've got some good help for box designs and such, but if you wanted to have a "pete box" he's doing designs again through mobile audio concepts for $60 or so. he could really maximize your output if you wanted to squeeze a little more out in SPL

[bladehines]

cool thanks for the info!

also got my Coustic crossover in today. "I like it......I like it alot!"

Looks nice, easy to use! can't wait to be able to hook it up!!!!!

[PSYKO_Inc]

I've been eyeballing that same xover. Can't decide if I wanna go ahead and pick one up, or hold out for the Premier 880PRS that I had my eye on (which has a built in xover)...

[skinnyg]

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

cool thanks for the info!

also got my Coustic crossover in today. "I like it......I like it alot!"

Looks nice, easy to use! can't wait to be able to hook it up!!!!!

sweet, which dude did you order it from? I am gonna order one tom.

[skinnyg]

Quote: Originally Posted by tstrenuous10

is there a thread talking about port size and dimensions? I'm thinking of building a box for two 10s and I've heard aero ports are a little better. Just wondering how much port placement matters which I assume it matters A LOT.

i gots a few links, ill post the tom, they are on my work computer

[blazerida88]

damn, its gonna be badass ryan. r u gonna go to scrapin the coast? if u wanna go, u can stay at the hotel with us if u want. its the 23rd and 24th. let me know, it will be cool to hang out again, and u could bring some of the banana beer with ya haha

[bladehines]

lol!!!

nope not got to Scrapin. i will be at Havoc. but i have so many bills to pay and i am tring to find an apartment too. so i have a full plate right now!


and i got the top link on the other page. but his was higher, stupid me.....

[skinnyg]

Hey you ever got you crossover? I havent ordered mine yet, I prolly order mine next week. Just curious.

[2002Chad]

Quote: Originally Posted by skinnyg

Hey you ever got you crossover? I havent ordered mine yet, I prolly order mine next week. Just curious.

did you read the thread?

[bladehines]

Quote: Originally Posted by skinnyg

Hey you ever got you crossover? I havent ordered mine yet, I prolly order mine next week. Just curious.

You smoking crack?????? you replied to my post about me getting my crossover! lol lol

[skinnyg]

I knew that you ordered it but didnt know if you actually got it yet. I was just wondering how you liked it.

edit- didnt remember you got it but i guess you havent used it yet.

[bladehines]

nope i won't install it untill i get everything else. i may take my subs and box out tomorrow and see what the rattling is. may build a small ported box for one 8 just to keep some sound for now.

[bladehines]

question for you guys??????????

if i decide to keep my MTX 1501D do you think it will be enough power?

The subs will be rated at 250 watts. and the ohm load will be .8 ohms total.

I will have 4-5 batteries total for power. and 10 subs.

The amp should do 2000+ watts at .8 ohms so that would be 200 watts a piece.

I think i am getting more power then that now though. whats the best way to check power output of my amp to see what i am currently getting at .5 ohms???

[bladehines]

Well i unhooked the power wire from my big amp. i will soon be taking apart the whole thing! i am gonna tear it all down and see what i broke on the box to make it rattle so.

Also going to try and see what the 3 batts are gonna cost me that i am putting under the hood. yes i am putting 3 under the hood in the factory spot. the power master batteries i am getting are 925's. they are 6.5 long, 6.93 wide, and 4.92 tall. and put out 1200ca a piece. i plan on having one on the very bottom below where the factory battery would go, then 2 on top of that. i think it will look nice when i get done. so that is my updates for now. i will try and get some more later.

[Tuteuk]

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

cool thanks for the info!

also got my Coustic crossover in today. "I like it......I like it alot!"

Looks nice, easy to use! can't wait to be able to hook it up!!!!!

I have seen this crossover and heard it's results.......I would say good buy for the bucks....Enjoy it.....

[bladehines]

BIGGGGGGGGGGGG UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is a message i just rececived from Scott at Fi/Ascendant

We are gearing up to get AA production rolling. Youll be the first to have some of the 8s if you want them. I will be somewhat MIA next week setting up the new AA warehouse and other things... so if I dont get back to you, I will the following week.


Thanks,
Scott
Fi Car Audio



WOOT i am excited!!!!!

[juddspaintballs]

lucky SOB. i want pictures, tons of pictures. i'm really toying with the idea of buying an 8" or two, and the RL-i 8" is at the top of my list until I see those AA 8's

[bladehines]

granted i don't expect to get these for free! but i hope to get a good discount since i am uping sales already and i don't own any! lol

but he is suppose to let me know how much and when!

[Tuteuk]

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

granted i don't expect to get these for free! but i hope to get a good discount since i am uping sales already and i don't own any! lol

but he is suppose to le me know how much and when!

I would push the sales pitch.....maybe the forum will get some boost as well...

[bladehines]

well i will talk to him about s10 forum sales and forum sales.

for now i am just going to work on getting mine as cheap as i can.

And if anyone tells you it's easy to get sponsered. don't listen to them!

i am just now getting my foot in the door on some companys due to having friends in the car audio biz. but i have spent alot more money and time talking to the stereo company's and local shops then most people will in a life time.

but i will try to help out my forum guys as much as they will let me!

[Tuteuk]

Quote: Originally Posted by bladehines

well i will talk to him about s10 forum sales and forum sales.

for now i am just going to work on getting mine as cheap as i can.

I agree take care of you first.....

Quote:

And if anyone tells you it's easy to get sponsered. don't listen to them!

i am just now getting my foot in the door on some companys due to having friends in the car audio biz. but i have spent alot more money and time talking to the stereo company's and local shops then most people will in a life time.

but i will try to help out my forum guys as much as they will let me!

I hear ya...some stuff is just not given, you gotta make the chase..Good for you in getting this far..I like the look of your setup...Novel approach...I like different...

[juddspaintballs]

usually it is hard to get sponsored. the sponsors have to see that you're willing to spend the money to have a loud vehicle and do it properly and also see you at a bunch of shows. if you can't make it to lots of shows, you wont get noticed

[Tuteuk]

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs

usually it is hard to get sponsored. the sponsors have to see that you're willing to spend the money to have a loud vehicle and do it properly and also see you at a bunch of shows. if you can't make it to lots of shows, you wont get noticed

OK let me get this straight....I spend the money, put in the install time, Make it rock.......Then I might, if they see me...Get a sponsor.....

If I have done all of this......what is the advantage of a sponsor...Another sticker for the ride....????? Sounds kinda unfair to me..."If" I have the stereo of my dreams and win shows already....Why get a sponsor???

[PSYKO_Inc]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tuteuk

OK let me get this straight....I spend the money, put in the install time, Make it rock.......Then I might, if they see me...Get a sponsor.....

If I have done all of this......what is the advantage of a sponsor...Another sticker for the ride....????? Sounds kinda unfair to me..."If" I have the stereo of my dreams and win shows already....Why get a sponsor???

Yep, thats pretty much the way it works, or so I've gathered. The only advantages I can see from sponsorship is having the latest edge on new products (like Bladehines getting the first run of the new AA 8s), and the company covering some of your expenses to continue competing (fuel, entry fees and such).

[nimbyfaygo]

To help you out about your amp choice. I don't think that 200 per sub will cut it.
For competion I'd want to send at least 400watts each to the subs.

I know. I've never seen the new 8's, but I'm sending 200 watts each to my RE 8's and they handle it without a problem. And I'm sure that the FI 8's are going to be less sensitive and take a lot more abuse than the Re's.

[juddspaintballs]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tuteuk

OK let me get this straight....I spend the money, put in the install time, Make it rock.......Then I might, if they see me...Get a sponsor.....

If I have done all of this......what is the advantage of a sponsor...Another sticker for the ride....????? Sounds kinda unfair to me..."If" I have the stereo of my dreams and win shows already....Why get a sponsor???

Big sponsors will notice you spent the money then pay for you to use only their stuff: meaning a whole new system. They'll use only their products in your truck as advertising. Smaller sponsors will pay entry fees, percentages of purchases on certain equipment, get you discounts, etc. There's no such thing as a free lunch. They're not going to pay big bucks for some kid that thinks they want into the SPL scene but hasn't shown that he's really serious about it.

[bladehines]

true i work with Scottie Johnson so i know about sponsers. he started out like me getting small discounts and what not, now he has probably 20 sponsers. we get wheels, tires, bodykits, speakers, amps, wiring, entry fees, hotels, food, all for free. some of the time food and hotels. but everything else we always get for free.

you just have to work up to the free stuff and settle with discounted stuff for now. when you can get that.

[juddspaintballs]

as for me, i'll stick to getting discounts through people i know. i'm not into SPL or even SQ competitions, i just like a nice everyday setup and i like to build it myself. i'm getting into learning some of the physics behind how it all works and its pretty interesting.

by the way, if ya wanna have a good time with some bassheads and learn a bunch of stuff at the same time... October 7th in Augusta, GA Pete Kulicki and Mobile Audio Concepts are hosting a get-together for anyone interested. It's to promote MAC and to put faces with usernames on many audio forums. RSVP here:
http://www.mobileaudioconcepts.com/f...topic.php?t=11

[bladehines]

cool. hey Judds you know anything about the 40.1's?

i hear you can't go below 1 ohm. they don't like it. but my setup will call for .8 ohms before impedence rise.

you think i should be in the clear? and at 1 ohm it does over 4000 watts at 14 volts

[juddspaintballs]

i'm not the expert on it, but i believe that .8 should be safe. usually the 1 ohm rating has a bit of a buffer with it. have you seen any bench tests lower than 1 ohm?

[bladehines]

i have heard of people running it at lower then 1 ohm for comp usage.

[juddspaintballs]

might wanna make a phone call and talk to a technician to be sure

[bladehines]

tech, hell i will call the owner. i know him well, i just want others opinions too though.

[bladehines]

another question for you. i will have 4-5 batteries, can i just hook them up in parallel or do i need to do anything special?

[rockinguitar876]

u need to get it done ha ha

[bladehines]

i wish it was that easy!!!!! money is the issue right now.

so far:

subs?????????
Amps: 40.1 =$900.00
xt1600.4 =$180.00
crossover =$60.00
wire?????????
batteries =$400.00+
Mids =$170.00
Tweets =$120.00
aeroports?????
odds and ends, terminals etc....?????

so i am trying to do this and get an apartment at the same time, kinda suck but if one of you guys bought my old system i could have alot of mine done.......wink, wink, wink!!!!

[bladehines]

here is a quick ms paint of the wiring i will have to do! i am calling it my wiring nightmare!

[juddspaintballs]

i think you'd need a battery isolator for your audio batteries so you don't drain your starting battery

[bladehines]

you think???

i will have 2-3 up front and 2 big batteries in the bed. do you think i will get a drain off the wiring?

[bladehines]

also should i need a fuse inline for the feed fire between the front and rear batteries.

also i have heard isolators cause bad voltage drops too. so i probably won't run one. i may run a ciruit breaker to disconect the front and rear.

[PSYKO_Inc]

Unless all your batteries are identical, you should run an isolator between the different banks. A diode type isolator should cause a 0.6V drop. Otherwise the different capacity batteries will fight each other and cause problems over time. Another way of isolating the battery banks is with a high-amp solenoid that is triggered by alternator output. Since your alternator will be charging the batteries, the batteries won't charge and drain each other. When you shut the truck off, the solenoid opens and the banks are isolated. You should put a fuse inline anywhere a cable leaves a battery bank. For example, in my truck there are 3 different fuses in line between my battery and my distro block in the cab. One just off the positive terminal of the starting battery, and two in the battery box in the bed. I have a 1/0 cable running from the fuse at the starting battery to the battery box in the bed, and then another 1/0 cable going from the battery box to the distro block in the cab. I don't have my second battery or isolator yet, so for now I just put a short piece of 1/0 between the two fuse blocks so there's continuity thru the whole thing. In the future all I have to do is put the isolator inline, cut the short piece of wire between the two fuse blocks in the bed, and hook the two ends to the positive terminal of the second battery.

[bladehines]

i will have 3 the same batteries, and 2 the same.

so i need my main lead from the front going to the rear needs a fuse. what size? ( 350 )

Then i need an isolator in the tool box connecting my front batteries together, to the rear batteries, right?

or i can run a solenoid, but i will need something that can hold the amps from the alt. ( which i perfer this method, but if the solenoid ever goes out then it may start draining the batts )

what size solenoid do i need? the front batteries are rated at 500amps each @ 32 degrees F.

the rears are rated at 1200amps each @ 32 degrees F.

[bladehines]

SR 200 stinger. but it looks like i would need 2 if i need it be over my alt. amps.??? I perfer to use tsunami but they don't make anything but isolators

[PSYKO_Inc]

You'll need the isolator or solenoid to be able to handle the max current from your alternator. You could run two solenoids in parallel if necessary. For your setup, the solenoids would probably be best. As for the fuses, I'm running two fuses on the line between the main battery and second battery, one at each battery. That way if there's a short somewhere under the truck both batteries will be protected from causing a fire. Then I'm running a third fuse between the second battery and distro block. I really need to get around to finishing my electrical system...

[bladehines]

Well i got the subs, box, and amp out! took only 2 hours!!! lol

So now would be a good time to measure and figure out how big i can make my box!

here are some pics of the stuff out:









i left the little amp in and hooked up so i could still have some tunes!

[RuLayd]

whats wrong with the cone on the top pic of the subs?