How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80

Jadesmarine · 12-08-2008, 03:20 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243

i will look at it and see if i can see it again. i just may have missed it lol

juddspaintballs · 12-08-2008, 08:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine

where bc i dont see anything at all on it. no markings no stamps or nothing lol

if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least.

Jadesmarine · 12-08-2008, 08:32 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs

if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least.

it doesnt have any number stamped on it but it came with the box that says 1-2419-21DR. The guy is just a seller on ebay or buys stuff for his tahoe. he says he upgraded to a dual alt system or somthing like that for his sound system. the alt looks brand spankin new

B_Rich · 12-08-2008, 08:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs

if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least.

x2, my "built up" CS130D has no markings on it either.

neo71665 · 12-09-2008, 01:18 AM

A stocker has it stamped on it somewhere. Most of the time on the bottom. If not it might be aftermarket.

guido9mm · 12-10-2008, 08:58 PM

I see ebay is selling ds130 that put out 105amp at idle(I called them and they said idle is at 550rpm) and max output of 200. Has anyone ever tried these out or would you say ad244 are better? See below for ebay listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...D% 26_fvi%3D1

Any comments would greatly apprecieted.

Also does anyone know would the AD244 from a 03 chevy sub 145amp fit a 2000 s10 blazer 4.3L. currently running AC delco reman 321-1432 10464084. if so would it be plug and play for wiring I do know a large belt is needed.

B_Rich · 12-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by guido9mm

I see ebay is selling ds130 that put out 105amp at idle(I called them and they said idle is at 550rpm) and max output of 200. Has anyone ever tried these out or would you say ad244 are better? See below for ebay listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...D% 26_fvi%3D1

Any comments would greatly apprecieted.

Also does anyone know would the AD244 from a 03 chevy sub 145amp fit a 2000 s10 blazer 4.3L. currently running AC delco reman 321-1432 10464084. if so would it be plug and play for wiring I do know a large belt is needed.

I'm weary on believing that that alternator will put out 105 amps AND 14.4v at idle, that's just me though. I've learned first hand AND done the research that it is a tough task to get 105 amps AND 14.4v at IDLE with a CS130D when warm, and that if you are going to accomplish that task, then you'll be spending more than just $215 on the alternator.

I could be wrong; that ebay alternator could put out what that guy said it does, but me being me, I don't buy it.

Remember - all of those numbers are when the alternator is COLD. Everyone knows that when anything heats up, it loses power, same goes for an alternator. I could believe that the said alternator puts out 14.4v and 105 amps at idle when COLD. I know my built up CS130D with a 160amp stator put out 14.6v and over 105 amps at idle when COLD. But when it's warm, I'll bet it puts out no more than 12.8v and 45 amps at IDLE.

^that's just me being me though, aka, my opinion.

And as far as the alternator fitting your truck, yes it will fit, and yes it will be a plug-and-play application. Please read the original post next time.... all of your questions and more will be answered there, I promise.

studdas · 12-11-2008, 02:16 PM

i have a 2002 s10 and im upgrading my sound system and need more power and my alternator is bout to go up, now i know bout the one ur ttalkin bout but... do u have and idea now on wat size belt i need im kinda in a hurry.

Jadesmarine · 12-11-2008, 03:02 PM

my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10
donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe
parts needed
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

B_Rich · 12-11-2008, 03:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by studdas

i have a 2002 s10 and im upgrading my sound system and need more power and my alternator is bout to go up, now i know bout the one ur ttalkin bout but... do u have and idea now on wat size belt i need im kinda in a hurry.

1-1.5" longer than stock..... says it right there in the OP

Go to your local auto parts store..... ask for an OEM belt for your year s10..... then say no to it and ask for one that is 1-1.5" longer..... get 2 or 3 of different sizes if you need and you can always return the ones that don't fit.

Jadesmarine · 12-11-2008, 03:41 PM

-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

If you have 4.3 with a/c thats the belt u need! the 4060952,4060955 are too small

juddspaintballs · 12-11-2008, 07:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine

-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

If you have 4.3 with a/c thats the belt u need! the 4060952,4060955 are too small

that's not 100% correct. belt length changed several times during the years. you have to find out what length is on your truck and get a belt that is 1-1.5" longer. for instance, i believe a 98 has a different length belt than a 99 and they are both different lengths than 00, but all 3 with AC are the same generation and there was no real change between those years.

Jadesmarine · 12-11-2008, 07:21 PM

my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10
donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe
parts needed
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

*if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this!

B_Rich · 12-11-2008, 07:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine

my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10
donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe
parts needed
-goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960

*if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this!

A simple guess and check of 2 (maybe 3) belts is all you really need to do. No measurements are required. If one belt doesn't fit, go to one longer.

Jadesmarine · 12-11-2008, 07:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243

A simple guess and check of 2 (maybe 3) belts is all you really need to do. No measurements are required. If one belt doesn't fit, go to one longer.

you know how many people prolly couldnt even do that! sorry im just bother by people not knowing how to do that basic crap then trying to come across as they know everything. for example i had to stop and tell a guy he was trying to jump another truck wrong. he had the jumpers on each + and - hooked to each other! FK FKFKFKFKFK wtf is going on with this world FK

not even goign to get into the dumb bastards at autozone fk

juddspaintballs · 12-11-2008, 10:15 PM

that's why i went to NAPA. carquest people can usually find their ass with both hands too. all i did was walk in, ask what my stock belt length was, and asked for a belt exactly 1" longer than that.

guido9mm · 12-12-2008, 08:09 PM

Well from my original posting #59 I converted my 100amp ds130 to a 145amp ad244 from a 2004 escalade and it went very well as stated in previous posting.....thanks. However I do question the 100amp at idle when warm. Current running a middle range sound system with a 200 amp & 12 inch woof. I am also using this s10 blazer to move snow...yes I have a plow on it. This is were the problem lies when the plow is moving lights dim and volts go down at idle. I did notice moving the plow around for few minutes after leting the truck run for 5 minutes the replacement alternator was very warm/hot to the touch. I replaced the belt and the cable from the alternator to the battery. Does anyone have any other suggestions.

B_Rich · 12-12-2008, 08:55 PM

Have you done the Big 3?

- to frame and - to engine block?

Read the stickey if you have any questions.

You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator?

juddspaintballs · 12-12-2008, 11:44 PM

do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator.

Gearstix · 12-13-2008, 04:13 AM

I think I'm going to look for these alternators anyway, might have to buy them from car-part, because there is nothing new in the junkyards where I live.

Even thought they won't fit in the stock bracket, I can still use them. Muahaha.

guido9mm · 12-13-2008, 09:55 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243

Have you done the Big 3?

- to frame and - to engine block?

Read the stickey if you have any questions.

You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator?

No, I only added a 4 guage wire from the alternator to the battery. Yes I did have the same problem with the stock alternator.

guido9mm · 12-13-2008, 10:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs

do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator.

The snowplow operation manual states a 100 amp alternator or larger and a 600cca battery or larger. My original alt was 100 now I am running a ad244 145 amp & 700cca battery.

LeviS1 · 12-14-2008, 11:00 AM

Holy hell, great post. I am a die hard Ohio Generator guy, but for the price, this is worth a try!!

LeviS1 · 12-14-2008, 11:03 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by guido9mm

No, I only added a 4 guage wire from the alternator to the battery. Yes I did have the same problem with the stock alternator.

0 gauge cures my problem up to 2000 watts. Good point though

B_Rich · 12-14-2008, 11:54 PM

guido, I'm guessing that the plow is still too much for the AD244..... Only way to for sure find out is to find out how much current the plow draws. Keep in mind, you need ~40 amps to power everything else on the truck.

S15vortecpwr · 12-27-2008, 05:57 PM

talking about diff amp alt, you can find one from a truck/suv that had electric fans and get a 145 or higher alt. my friends 07 suburban loaded, has rear ent, rear a/c and fans and it has a 200 amp alt factory. Unsure if it will bolt the same or not. just an idea.

Gonna try this on my 94 hwne this alt takes a crap.

B_Rich · 12-27-2008, 06:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by S15vortecpwr

talking about diff amp alt, you can find one from a truck/suv that had electric fans and get a 145 or higher alt. my friends 07 suburban loaded, has rear ent, rear a/c and fans and it has a 200 amp alt factory. Unsure if it will bolt the same or not. just an idea.

Gonna try this on my 94 hwne this alt takes a crap.

I don't understand. That's exactly what this write up is about; using the alternator off of the full size trucks on our s10s and blazers.....

Did you even read the thread.....?

S15vortecpwr · 01-02-2009, 03:27 PM

they were trying to figure out the amp output of the alternators. i was just saying if you were searching the bone yard you could get one from a truck that had electric fans, rear defrost, rear dvd install and it may be a 200 ampo alternator instead of 130/145. I was just saying a friends 07 suburban 5.3 has elec fans, rear dvd, rear defrost and has a 200 amp alt. I am unsure if the 07 will fit the same due to newer body style. will get closer look when i change oil next time.

another friend has a 01 z71 and his has a 130 installed, my dads 02 2500hd has a 145 installed, neither has elec fans or rear defrost, just stating what trucks i have seen come with what.

and yes i read the thread, just trying to clear up some confusion. I hope this explains more what i said/

bg's · 01-02-2009, 03:38 PM

On that snowplow deal, it might be pulling so many amps
it might need a larger Prestolite-Leece Neville alt which is used
on many tow trucks, etc. They are pretty expensive
and I'm not sure one is even made that would bolt
to an S10, but they do put out serious power.

Looks like there is one made for the s10 Blazer.
Anyway >

http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/alt_search.php

B_Rich · 01-02-2009, 06:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by S15vortecpwr

they were trying to figure out the amp output of the alternators. i was just saying if you were searching the bone yard you could get one from a truck that had electric fans, rear defrost, rear dvd install and it may be a 200 ampo alternator instead of 130/145. I was just saying a friends 07 suburban 5.3 has elec fans, rear dvd, rear defrost and has a 200 amp alt. I am unsure if the 07 will fit the same due to newer body style. will get closer look when i change oil next time.

another friend has a 01 z71 and his has a 130 installed, my dads 02 2500hd has a 145 installed, neither has elec fans or rear defrost, just stating what trucks i have seen come with what.

and yes i read the thread, just trying to clear up some confusion. I hope this explains more what i said/

Ah ok, I gotcha now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

Yeah that 200 amp would kick ass, if it does work on our 4.3's. I think it MIGHT be the 2nd generation of AD244's that they are using on the new Chevy trucks, I could be wrong though, I haven't looked into it much.

neo71665 · 01-02-2009, 09:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243

Ah ok, I gotcha now. Sorry, I misunderstood you.

Yeah that 200 amp would kick ass, if it does work on our 4.3's. I think it MIGHT be the 2nd generation of AD244's that they are using on the new Chevy trucks, I could be wrong though, I haven't looked into it much.

You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector.

B_Rich · 01-02-2009, 09:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by neo71665

You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector.

Yeah cknaffle over at Zr2USA did a group buy of all new AD244 alternators and they have the different plug on them, unlike my junkyard one.

deadbroke · 01-03-2009, 04:42 AM

do you have a picture of the plug maybe a better pic of the alt too i'm interested in doing this swap as well

B_Rich · 01-03-2009, 11:23 AM

Not sure if that's what you wanted, but that's the factory harness plug. I don't know what the brand new AD244 plugs look like, google images could prolly help ya out there.

AD244 on the left (built 160amp CS130D that doesn't put out sh!t at idle on the right):

You can also check out the Part 2 link in my signature for some more info on it.

neo71665 · 01-03-2009, 11:25 AM

Its not hard to tell them apart. One plug has 2 electrical connections (metal prongs) in it the other has 4 or spaces for 4. The one that has 2 uses a computer controlled voltage reg (our trucks ECM doesn't have this feature) and the one with 4 has a build in voltage reg (just like the factory alt). Just get one that your factory alt plug looks like it will fit.

bg's · 01-03-2009, 05:28 PM

I suppose if one had to, one could use this place and
ask about a modified waring harness. They also have
some info on the AD244. They have one rated at 300
amps, but this place is pretty high.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/gmcs144.html

I don't know what it would take to modify an AD244
to fit the mounts on 1st Gens. Might have to
try that someday..

***orangesonoma*** · 01-03-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 01cherryreds10

Ah that bastard has heard enough of my gratitude toward what he does on this forum

THANK YOU BRIAN

lol

deadbroke · 01-03-2009, 11:42 PM

i was looking on e bay for one they look a little different junkyards around here really don't have newer cars i might be looking at the wrong yards though. pics were good man thanks

neo71665 · 01-04-2009, 02:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

I suppose if one had to, one could use this place and
ask about a modified waring harness. They also have
some info on the AD244. They have one rated at 300
amps, but this place is pretty high.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/gmcs144.html

I don't know what it would take to modify an AD244
to fit the mounts on 1st Gens. Might have to
try that someday..

The mounts aint crap on a 2.8 first gen you just gotta drill out one hole in one bracket. Wiring poses my main problem right now. My electrical plug has 2 wires (one in L and one in F) and I aint had time to trace down what is what. I know you can't just swap them out to the AD244 plug and it work.

bg's · 01-04-2009, 03:04 PM

^ I don't know if this will help, but here is a dia
for the 130 and 144. If I could find the schematic
for the reg on the AD 244 maybe a inexpensive
adapter harness could be made up to allow your
OEM harness to plug into the late alt..Anyway >

http://www.hotrodlane.cc/newhtml/smallalt.html

bg's · 01-04-2009, 03:17 PM

According to this link, it looks like the ADD-244
takes the same 4 way reg plug as the CS-130D.

http://store.alternatorparts.com/regulator-13.aspx

B_Rich · 01-04-2009, 07:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bg's

According to this link, it looks like the ADD-244
takes the same 4 way reg plug as the CS-130D.

http://store.alternatorparts.com/regulator-13.aspx

neo71665 · 01-05-2009, 04:37 PM

lol, somebody didn't read the thread.

Yes the later cs series and ad series alts share the same plug. Some of the earlier CS series alts came with a more squared plug with a alignment tab on it.

ChrisInVT · 01-07-2009, 11:45 AM

Somebody wire this up to a 60*V6

B_Rich · 01-07-2009, 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT

Somebody wire this up to a 60*V6

This may sound like a stupid question, but what's the difference between a "60* V6" and my 4.3L V6 in my Zr2.....

ColinMc · 01-07-2009, 01:59 PM

For those of you looking for a bolt in 200 amp alternator option, NAPA shows a HO version of the 145amp alternator. It's big bucks over the counter but if you know someone with an employee discount you can get the alternator, heavy duting wiring kit and belt for around 200 bucks out the door.

Alternator: 1N-4812-HO
Wire Kit: 13-41K
Belt: 25-060960

Keep in mind this is a BRAND new alternator, not remanufactured or anything. I was going to go this route but because of the cost decided to go with a brand new 145amp alternator for around 100 bucks (1N-4812)

Those are all NAPA part numbers, and regular cash customer pricing is over 400 dollars lol...how's that for a markup?!

B_Rich · 01-07-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ColinMc

For those of you looking for a bolt in 200 amp alternator option, NAPA shows a HO version of the 145amp alternator. It's big bucks over the counter but if you know someone with an employee discount you can get the alternator, heavy duting wiring kit and belt for around 200 bucks out the door.

Alternator: 1N-4812-HO
Wire Kit: 13-41K
Belt: 25-060960

Keep in mind this is a BRAND new alternator, not remanufactured or anything. I was going to go this route but because of the cost decided to go with a brand new 145amp alternator for around 100 bucks (1N-4812)

Those are all NAPA part numbers, and regular cash customer pricing is over 400 dollars lol...how's that for a markup?!

What's the wire kit for? Is that some type of adapter for the wire harness?

ColinMc · 01-08-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243

What's the wire kit for? Is that some type of adapter for the wire harness?

Looks like a waste of money actually...and that's 50+ bucks of the 200 I quoted for the setup lol. It's not an adapter but just looks like a heavier duty ground and power wire...so 2 of the "Big Three" which is cheaper/easier to do yourself.

I figured it was an adapter setup like you did, but apparently not after looking at it more closely it's not needed assuming you are doing/have done the big three already.

So the alternator itself is under 140 bucks at NAPA with an employee discount and the belt should be around 10 bucks.

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Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243 i will look at it and see if i can see it again. i just may have missed it lol
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juddspaintballs I pee standing Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,098 Location: Union Bridge, MD User is: Online	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine where bc i dont see anything at all on it. no markings no stamps or nothing lol if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least.
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Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least. it doesnt have any number stamped on it but it came with the box that says 1-2419-21DR. The guy is just a seller on ebay or buys stuff for his tahoe. he says he upgraded to a dual alt system or somthing like that for his sound system. the alt looks brand spankin new
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B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs if you have NO markings or stamps on it at all, you might have picked up an aftermarket alternator from a junker. stock alts will clearly say Delphi on the case at the VERY least. x2, my "built up" CS130D has no markings on it either.
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12-09-2008, 01:18 AM	#57
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,005 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 A stocker has it stamped on it somewhere. Most of the time on the bottom. If not it might be aftermarket.
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12-10-2008, 08:58 PM	#58
guido9mm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 I see ebay is selling ds130 that put out 105amp at idle(I called them and they said idle is at 550rpm) and max output of 200. Has anyone ever tried these out or would you say ad244 are better? See below for ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...D% 26_fvi%3D1 Any comments would greatly apprecieted. Also does anyone know would the AD244 from a 03 chevy sub 145amp fit a 2000 s10 blazer 4.3L. currently running AC delco reman 321-1432 10464084. if so would it be plug and play for wiring I do know a large belt is needed.
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12-10-2008, 10:05 PM	#59
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by guido9mm I see ebay is selling ds130 that put out 105amp at idle(I called them and they said idle is at 550rpm) and max output of 200. Has anyone ever tried these out or would you say ad244 are better? See below for ebay listing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...D% 26_fvi%3D1 Any comments would greatly apprecieted. Also does anyone know would the AD244 from a 03 chevy sub 145amp fit a 2000 s10 blazer 4.3L. currently running AC delco reman 321-1432 10464084. if so would it be plug and play for wiring I do know a large belt is needed. I'm weary on believing that that alternator will put out 105 amps AND 14.4v at idle, that's just me though. I've learned first hand AND done the research that it is a tough task to get 105 amps AND 14.4v at IDLE with a CS130D when warm, and that if you are going to accomplish that task, then you'll be spending more than just $215 on the alternator. I could be wrong; that ebay alternator could put out what that guy said it does, but me being me, I don't buy it. Remember - all of those numbers are when the alternator is COLD. Everyone knows that when anything heats up, it loses power, same goes for an alternator. I could believe that the said alternator puts out 14.4v and 105 amps at idle when COLD. I know my built up CS130D with a 160amp stator put out 14.6v and over 105 amps at idle when COLD. But when it's warm, I'll bet it puts out no more than 12.8v and 45 amps at IDLE. ^that's just me being me though, aka, my opinion. And as far as the alternator fitting your truck, yes it will fit, and yes it will be a plug-and-play application. Please read the original post next time.... all of your questions and more will be answered there, I promise.
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12-11-2008, 02:16 PM	#60
studdas Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 i have a 2002 s10 and im upgrading my sound system and need more power and my alternator is bout to go up, now i know bout the one ur ttalkin bout but... do u have and idea now on wat size belt i need im kinda in a hurry.
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Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10 donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe parts needed -goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960
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12-11-2008, 03:26 PM	#62
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by studdas i have a 2002 s10 and im upgrading my sound system and need more power and my alternator is bout to go up, now i know bout the one ur ttalkin bout but... do u have and idea now on wat size belt i need im kinda in a hurry. 1-1.5" longer than stock..... says it right there in the OP Go to your local auto parts store..... ask for an OEM belt for your year s10..... then say no to it and ask for one that is 1-1.5" longer..... get 2 or 3 of different sizes if you need and you can always return the ones that don't fit.
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12-11-2008, 03:41 PM	#63
Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 -goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960 If you have 4.3 with a/c thats the belt u need! the 4060952,4060955 are too small
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12-11-2008, 07:18 PM	#64
juddspaintballs I pee standing Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,098 Location: Union Bridge, MD User is: Online	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine -goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960 If you have 4.3 with a/c thats the belt u need! the 4060952,4060955 are too small that's not 100% correct. belt length changed several times during the years. you have to find out what length is on your truck and get a belt that is 1-1.5" longer. for instance, i believe a 98 has a different length belt than a 99 and they are both different lengths than 00, but all 3 with AC are the same generation and there was no real change between those years.
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12-11-2008, 07:21 PM	#65
Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10 donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe parts needed -goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960 if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this! Last edited by Jadesmarine : 12-11-2008 at 07:24 PM.*
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12-11-2008, 07:46 PM	#66
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by Jadesmarine my truck -4.3,auto,2002 s10 donor truck-5.3,auto, 2002 tahoe parts needed -goodyear gatorback belt part #4060960 if you have the same truck i do then thats the belt you need. If youd dont then what you need to do is take the time to measure it out. thats measured from center to center of the mounting hole to the pulley. I came out with my measurement subtracted from the stock one and went and bought a belt that was that much longer. easy as that. for someone who cant measure to find out what belt they need shouldnt attempt this!* A simple guess and check of 2 (maybe 3) belts is all you really need to do. No measurements are required. If one belt doesn't fit, go to one longer.
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12-11-2008, 07:50 PM	#67
Jadesmarine Adapt And Overcome! Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,118 Location: 29 Palms User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243 A simple guess and check of 2 (maybe 3) belts is all you really need to do. No measurements are required. If one belt doesn't fit, go to one longer. you know how many people prolly couldnt even do that! sorry im just bother by people not knowing how to do that basic crap then trying to come across as they know everything. for example i had to stop and tell a guy he was trying to jump another truck wrong. he had the jumpers on each + and - hooked to each other! FK FKFKFKFKFK wtf is going on with this world FK not even goign to get into the dumb bastards at autozone fk
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12-11-2008, 10:15 PM	#68
juddspaintballs I pee standing Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,098 Location: Union Bridge, MD User is: Online	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 that's why i went to NAPA. carquest people can usually find their ass with both hands too. all i did was walk in, ask what my stock belt length was, and asked for a belt exactly 1" longer than that.
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12-12-2008, 08:09 PM	#69
guido9mm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Well from my original posting #59 I converted my 100amp ds130 to a 145amp ad244 from a 2004 escalade and it went very well as stated in previous posting.....thanks. However I do question the 100amp at idle when warm. Current running a middle range sound system with a 200 amp & 12 inch woof. I am also using this s10 blazer to move snow...yes I have a plow on it. This is were the problem lies when the plow is moving lights dim and volts go down at idle. I did notice moving the plow around for few minutes after leting the truck run for 5 minutes the replacement alternator was very warm/hot to the touch. I replaced the belt and the cable from the alternator to the battery. Does anyone have any other suggestions.
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12-12-2008, 08:55 PM	#70
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Have you done the Big 3? - to frame and - to engine block? Read the stickey if you have any questions. You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator?
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12-12-2008, 11:44 PM	#71
juddspaintballs I pee standing Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,098 Location: Union Bridge, MD User is: Online	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator.
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12-13-2008, 04:13 AM	#72
Gearstix Bad Luck Age: 17 Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,089 Location: Alberta, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 I think I'm going to look for these alternators anyway, might have to buy them from car-part, because there is nothing new in the junkyards where I live. Even thought they won't fit in the stock bracket, I can still use them. Muahaha.
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12-13-2008, 09:55 AM	#73
guido9mm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243 Have you done the Big 3? - to frame and - to engine block? Read the stickey if you have any questions. You're saying you get voltage problems (at idle) when moving the plow with the AD244 installed? Did you have these voltage problems with the stock alternator? No, I only added a 4 guage wire from the alternator to the battery. Yes I did have the same problem with the stock alternator.
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12-13-2008, 10:06 AM	#74
guido9mm Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs do you know how much current the hydraulic pump for the plow draws? methinks it's a pretty good amount -- plenty enough to bring your voltage down at idle with 100 amperes flowing from your alternator. The snowplow operation manual states a 100 amp alternator or larger and a 600cca battery or larger. My original alt was 100 now I am running a ad244 145 amp & 700cca battery.
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12-14-2008, 11:00 AM	#75
LeviS1 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 65 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Holy hell, great post. I am a die hard Ohio Generator guy, but for the price, this is worth a try!!
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12-14-2008, 11:03 AM	#76
LeviS1 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 65 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by guido9mm No, I only added a 4 guage wire from the alternator to the battery. Yes I did have the same problem with the stock alternator. 0 gauge cures my problem up to 2000 watts. Good point though
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12-14-2008, 11:54 PM	#77
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 guido, I'm guessing that the plow is still too much for the AD244..... Only way to for sure find out is to find out how much current the plow draws. Keep in mind, you need ~40 amps to power everything else on the truck.
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12-27-2008, 05:57 PM	#78
S15vortecpwr goin broke but n style Age: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,071 Location: Wetumpka, Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 talking about diff amp alt, you can find one from a truck/suv that had electric fans and get a 145 or higher alt. my friends 07 suburban loaded, has rear ent, rear a/c and fans and it has a 200 amp alt factory. Unsure if it will bolt the same or not. just an idea. Gonna try this on my 94 hwne this alt takes a crap.
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12-27-2008, 06:21 PM	#79
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by S15vortecpwr talking about diff amp alt, you can find one from a truck/suv that had electric fans and get a 145 or higher alt. my friends 07 suburban loaded, has rear ent, rear a/c and fans and it has a 200 amp alt factory. Unsure if it will bolt the same or not. just an idea. Gonna try this on my 94 hwne this alt takes a crap. I don't understand. That's exactly what this write up is about; using the alternator off of the full size trucks on our s10s and blazers..... Did you even read the thread.....?
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01-02-2009, 03:27 PM	#80
S15vortecpwr goin broke but n style Age: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,071 Location: Wetumpka, Alabama User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 they were trying to figure out the amp output of the alternators. i was just saying if you were searching the bone yard you could get one from a truck that had electric fans, rear defrost, rear dvd install and it may be a 200 ampo alternator instead of 130/145. I was just saying a friends 07 suburban 5.3 has elec fans, rear dvd, rear defrost and has a 200 amp alt. I am unsure if the 07 will fit the same due to newer body style. will get closer look when i change oil next time. another friend has a 01 z71 and his has a 130 installed, my dads 02 2500hd has a 145 installed, neither has elec fans or rear defrost, just stating what trucks i have seen come with what. and yes i read the thread, just trying to clear up some confusion. I hope this explains more what i said/
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01-02-2009, 03:38 PM	#81
bg's crap Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 8,097 Location: Who cares.. User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 On that snowplow deal, it might be pulling so many amps it might need a larger Prestolite-Leece Neville alt which is used on many tow trucks, etc. They are pretty expensive and I'm not sure one is even made that would bolt to an S10, but they do put out serious power. Looks like there is one made for the s10 Blazer. Anyway > http://www.prestolite.com/pgs_products/alt_search.php Last edited by bg's : 01-02-2009 at 03:48 PM.
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01-02-2009, 06:25 PM	#82
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by S15vortecpwr they were trying to figure out the amp output of the alternators. i was just saying if you were searching the bone yard you could get one from a truck that had electric fans, rear defrost, rear dvd install and it may be a 200 ampo alternator instead of 130/145. I was just saying a friends 07 suburban 5.3 has elec fans, rear dvd, rear defrost and has a 200 amp alt. I am unsure if the 07 will fit the same due to newer body style. will get closer look when i change oil next time. another friend has a 01 z71 and his has a 130 installed, my dads 02 2500hd has a 145 installed, neither has elec fans or rear defrost, just stating what trucks i have seen come with what. and yes i read the thread, just trying to clear up some confusion. I hope this explains more what i said/ Ah ok, I gotcha now. Sorry, I misunderstood you. Yeah that 200 amp would kick ass, if it does work on our 4.3's. I think it MIGHT be the 2nd generation of AD244's that they are using on the new Chevy trucks, I could be wrong though, I haven't looked into it much.
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01-02-2009, 09:25 PM	#83
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,005 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by VoRtEcZr243 Ah ok, I gotcha now. Sorry, I misunderstood you. Yeah that 200 amp would kick ass, if it does work on our 4.3's. I think it MIGHT be the 2nd generation of AD244's that they are using on the new Chevy trucks, I could be wrong though, I haven't looked into it much. You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector.
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01-02-2009, 09:48 PM	#84
B_Rich Zr2USA = B_Rich Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,611 Location: Iowa User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 Quote: Originally Posted by neo71665 You also gotta look at the plug on the alts off of newer trucks. If its only 2 prong it will not work. You're looking for an AD244 with a 4 prong electrical connector. Yeah cknaffle over at Zr2USA did a group buy of all new AD244 alternators and they have the different plug on them, unlike my junkyard one.
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01-03-2009, 04:42 AM	#85
deadbroke Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 841 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: How To: High Output AD244 Alternator for ~$80 do you have a picture of the plug maybe a better pic of the alt too i'm interested in doing this swap as well
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