hooking sound to alarm

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 03:52 AM

I have power locks that were put in after purchasing my car and it only flashes the parking lights and locks the doors. is there a way to hook up like an aftermarket beep to it? so it will beep like a regular alarm? or at least hook it up to the horn to honk. or a aftermarket horn?

my2ks10xtreme · 08-23-2008, 03:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

I have power locks that were put in after purchasing my car and it only flashes the parking lights and locks the doors. is there a way to hook up like an aftermarket beep to it? so it will beep like a regular alarm? or at least hook it up to the horn to honk. or a aftermarket horn?

You will have to pull your underdash and find the brain unit for the keyless entry, some systems have a siren or horn output wire on them.

If you have the make and model of the keyless entry system I can tell you if its possible or not. By finding that brain that info will be on there.

All you would have to do is run the single siren wire from the brain to the red wire on the siren and then just ground the black wire under the hood somewhere.

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 04:11 AM

i have a valet 712t. just a simple door lock unlock kit with parking light flash

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 04:15 AM

in the booklet it says there is an horn honk output. that send pulses to the horn. im not sure if the wire is there or not. ill look tomorrow. but where can i find a beep type sound? i dont really want the stock horn but if i need to i will.

DMP · 08-23-2008, 04:38 AM

The wire should be there...its probably not hooked up. You could install an alarm siren, air horns...etc.

my2ks10xtreme · 08-23-2008, 05:11 AM

With that system you can do either horn honk output or use a regular DEI siren like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-DEI-Directed-514N-Siren-viper-python-clifford-avital_W0QQitemZ170252583187QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em170252583187&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A 2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Either option you go with you will have to use a relay which is simple. Take the brown wire from the brain unit and that will go to pin 85, constant 12+ volts to pins 86 & 87, then the red wire from the siren to pin 30.

Black wire from siren to ground, will chirp once when doors are locked and twice when unlocked. Also will sound for 30 secs. if you use the panic mode on it.

If you still have the installation booklet, follow the diagram on page 6. Pick up the DEI siren from eBay or your local car audio/alarm shop if your looking for the beep type. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Edit:

Reason for the use of the relay is because the signal from the brain is negative and the siren or the horn will need a postive signal, so the relay acts as a switch and converts the negative signal to postive when you press you arm/disarm button or even panic mode.

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 05:21 AM

wheres the relay? haha do i have to pick one up?

my2ks10xtreme · 08-23-2008, 05:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

wheres the relay? haha do i have to pick one up?

Yeah you have to buy a relay, you can get those almost anywhere. You will need a 30/40 amp relay. You can order them online or pick one up from your local circuit city or best buy if you have one near you.

Or I can send you one just pay shipping.

***orangesonoma*** · 08-23-2008, 11:33 AM

i believe the horn honk output on a 711t only works after you press the lock button twice...much like a stock unit..and i am pretty sure there is no way to change that....but it has been a few years since i installed a 711t...

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 06:15 PM

alright....i went to my car specialty shop and they said the horn will be annoying and loud if hooked up. and the siren will sound like crap. they had the relay but i didnt get it cuz the guy is a douche. he said theres a beeping siren i could get but he would have to order it for around 30 bucks. I just want the sound like a toyota's alarm. a single beep when locking and a double beep when unlocking. HELP

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 06:16 PM

i guess i need a piezo buzzer?

***orangesonoma*** · 08-23-2008, 06:47 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

a single beep when locking and a double beep when unlocking. HELP

again like i said before i dont think it has that output...the last one i did i remember it not honking the horn when i did it and it only did it when you hit lock twice in a row...and nothing for unlock... your only option that i can think of is to tie it into the out put from the parking light but then you have to isolate it from the trucks lights and it will have a longer pulse

t_bone44 · 08-23-2008, 06:58 PM

it has a horn honk output. it sends one pulse through when locking and 2 when unlocking. it says so in my manual, and the car place said so too. its just not hooked up cuz circuit city sucks at what they do.

my2ks10xtreme · 08-25-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

it has a horn honk output. it sends one pulse through when locking and 2 when unlocking. it says so in my manual, and the car place said so too. its just not hooked up cuz circuit city sucks at what they do.

You are correct on the horn honk output, and circuit city doesnt suck just depends on the installer. I worked at circuit city for 3 years and the horn honk cost more to hook up its not part of the install price, you could of slipped the guy like $10 and he probably would of done it on the side like we used to do.

But anyways I told you what you need to do for the alarm to have sound its up to you what you do with that info and what everyone else comes in here to chime in about.

This will be my last post in this thread, good luck man!

t_bone44 · 08-30-2008, 08:35 PM

ok guys i bought a DEI 514N Soft-Chrip Siren. I only have a few questions though. 1..I cant get it open to cut wires on the back side. it says to cut wires to get rid of certain tones. and 2...i should be able to ground it and hook the + to my brain unit correct?

***orangesonoma*** · 08-30-2008, 11:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

ok guys i bought a DEI 514N Soft-Chrip Siren. I only have a few questions though. 1..I cant get it open to cut wires on the back side. it says to cut wires to get rid of certain tones. and 2...i should be able to ground it and hook the + to my brain unit correct?

the output from the brain is negative so no you have hook up the red to constant.....

t_bone44 · 08-31-2008, 02:45 AM

so i need a relay

stupid n00b · 08-31-2008, 08:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by my2ks10xtreme

With that system you can do either horn honk output or use a regular DEI siren like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-DEI-Directed-5...d=p3286.c0.m14

Either option you go with you will have to use a relay which is simple. Take the brown wire from the brain unit and that will go to pin 85, constant 12+ volts to pins 86 & 87, then the red wire from the siren to pin 30.

Black wire from siren to ground, will chirp once when doors are locked and twice when unlocked. Also will sound for 30 secs. if you use the panic mode on it.

If you still have the installation booklet, follow the diagram on page 6. Pick up the DEI siren from eBay or your local car audio/alarm shop if your looking for the beep type. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Edit:

Reason for the use of the relay is because the signal from the brain is negative and the siren or the horn will need a postive signal, so the relay acts as a switch and converts the negative signal to postive when you press you arm/disarm button or even panic mode.

this guy pretty much covered everything you need to know...

most 'horn' out puts are pulsed so the horn honks, doesnt stay on the whole time the unit is sounding...some units have a feature to turn the output to constant..

and most horn wires in vehicles are negative...

t_bone44 · 09-06-2008, 02:29 AM

well guys...didnt work. i got the relay and i did everything to the diagram and i couldnt get either the horn OR the siren i bought to work

***orangesonoma*** · 09-06-2008, 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

well guys...didnt work. i got the relay and i did everything to the diagram and i couldnt get either the horn OR the siren i bought to work

did you try to hit the lock button twice like i said?

Forklift · 09-07-2008, 12:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44

in the booklet it says there is an horn honk output. that send pulses to the horn. im not sure if the wire is there or not. ill look tomorrow. but where can i find a beep type sound? i dont really want the stock horn but if i need to i will.

all it will do on a 712 is panic the horn, if memory serves me on the dozens Ive done
get a real alarm

***orangesonoma*** · 09-07-2008, 12:56 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Forklift

all it will do on a 712 is panic the horn

and honk on the second pulse of the lock button...

08-23-2008, 03:52 AM	#1
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	hooking sound to alarm I have power locks that were put in after purchasing my car and it only flashes the parking lights and locks the doors. is there a way to hook up like an aftermarket beep to it? so it will beep like a regular alarm? or at least hook it up to the horn to honk. or a aftermarket horn?
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08-23-2008, 03:59 AM	#2
my2ks10xtreme Real Men Wear Skirts!! Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,657 Location: NOR☆CAL User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 I have power locks that were put in after purchasing my car and it only flashes the parking lights and locks the doors. is there a way to hook up like an aftermarket beep to it? so it will beep like a regular alarm? or at least hook it up to the horn to honk. or a aftermarket horn? You will have to pull your underdash and find the brain unit for the keyless entry, some systems have a siren or horn output wire on them. If you have the make and model of the keyless entry system I can tell you if its possible or not. By finding that brain that info will be on there. All you would have to do is run the single siren wire from the brain to the red wire on the siren and then just ground the black wire under the hood somewhere.
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08-23-2008, 04:11 AM	#3
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm i have a valet 712t. just a simple door lock unlock kit with parking light flash
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08-23-2008, 04:15 AM	#4
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm in the booklet it says there is an horn honk output. that send pulses to the horn. im not sure if the wire is there or not. ill look tomorrow. but where can i find a beep type sound? i dont really want the stock horn but if i need to i will.
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08-23-2008, 04:38 AM	#5
DMP Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 654 Location: Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm The wire should be there...its probably not hooked up. You could install an alarm siren, air horns...etc.
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08-23-2008, 05:11 AM	#6
my2ks10xtreme Real Men Wear Skirts!! Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,657 Location: NOR☆CAL User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm With that system you can do either horn honk output or use a regular DEI siren like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-DEI-Directed-514N-Siren-viper-python-clifford-avital_W0QQitemZ170252583187QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em170252583187&_trkparms=72%3A552%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A 2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 Either option you go with you will have to use a relay which is simple. Take the brown wire from the brain unit and that will go to pin 85, constant 12+ volts to pins 86 & 87, then the red wire from the siren to pin 30. Black wire from siren to ground, will chirp once when doors are locked and twice when unlocked. Also will sound for 30 secs. if you use the panic mode on it. If you still have the installation booklet, follow the diagram on page 6. Pick up the DEI siren from eBay or your local car audio/alarm shop if your looking for the beep type. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Edit: Reason for the use of the relay is because the signal from the brain is negative and the siren or the horn will need a postive signal, so the relay acts as a switch and converts the negative signal to postive when you press you arm/disarm button or even panic mode. Last edited by my2ks10xtreme : 08-23-2008 at 05:14 AM.
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08-23-2008, 05:21 AM	#7
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm wheres the relay? haha do i have to pick one up?
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08-23-2008, 05:35 AM	#8
my2ks10xtreme Real Men Wear Skirts!! Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,657 Location: NOR☆CAL User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 wheres the relay? haha do i have to pick one up? Yeah you have to buy a relay, you can get those almost anywhere. You will need a 30/40 amp relay. You can order them online or pick one up from your local circuit city or best buy if you have one near you. Or I can send you one just pay shipping.
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08-23-2008, 11:33 AM	#9
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,742 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm i believe the horn honk output on a 711t only works after you press the lock button twice...much like a stock unit..and i am pretty sure there is no way to change that....but it has been a few years since i installed a 711t...
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08-23-2008, 06:15 PM	#10
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm alright....i went to my car specialty shop and they said the horn will be annoying and loud if hooked up. and the siren will sound like crap. they had the relay but i didnt get it cuz the guy is a douche. he said theres a beeping siren i could get but he would have to order it for around 30 bucks. I just want the sound like a toyota's alarm. a single beep when locking and a double beep when unlocking. HELP
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08-23-2008, 06:16 PM	#11
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm i guess i need a piezo buzzer?
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08-23-2008, 06:47 PM	#12
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,742 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 a single beep when locking and a double beep when unlocking. HELP again like i said before i dont think it has that output...the last one i did i remember it not honking the horn when i did it and it only did it when you hit lock twice in a row...and nothing for unlock... your only option that i can think of is to tie it into the out put from the parking light but then you have to isolate it from the trucks lights and it will have a longer pulse
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08-23-2008, 06:58 PM	#13
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm it has a horn honk output. it sends one pulse through when locking and 2 when unlocking. it says so in my manual, and the car place said so too. its just not hooked up cuz circuit city sucks at what they do.
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08-25-2008, 01:27 PM	#14
my2ks10xtreme Real Men Wear Skirts!! Age: 24 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 4,657 Location: NOR☆CAL User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 it has a horn honk output. it sends one pulse through when locking and 2 when unlocking. it says so in my manual, and the car place said so too. its just not hooked up cuz circuit city sucks at what they do. You are correct on the horn honk output, and circuit city doesnt suck just depends on the installer. I worked at circuit city for 3 years and the horn honk cost more to hook up its not part of the install price, you could of slipped the guy like $10 and he probably would of done it on the side like we used to do. But anyways I told you what you need to do for the alarm to have sound its up to you what you do with that info and what everyone else comes in here to chime in about. This will be my last post in this thread, good luck man!
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08-30-2008, 08:35 PM	#15
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm ok guys i bought a DEI 514N Soft-Chrip Siren. I only have a few questions though. 1..I cant get it open to cut wires on the back side. it says to cut wires to get rid of certain tones. and 2...i should be able to ground it and hook the + to my brain unit correct?
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*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,742 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 ok guys i bought a DEI 514N Soft-Chrip Siren. I only have a few questions though. 1..I cant get it open to cut wires on the back side. it says to cut wires to get rid of certain tones. and 2...i should be able to ground it and hook the + to my brain unit correct? the output from the brain is negative so no you have hook up the red to constant.....
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08-31-2008, 08:12 PM	#18
stupid n00b Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 74 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by my2ks10xtreme With that system you can do either horn honk output or use a regular DEI siren like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/1-DEI-Directed-5...d=p3286.c0.m14 Either option you go with you will have to use a relay which is simple. Take the brown wire from the brain unit and that will go to pin 85, constant 12+ volts to pins 86 & 87, then the red wire from the siren to pin 30. Black wire from siren to ground, will chirp once when doors are locked and twice when unlocked. Also will sound for 30 secs. if you use the panic mode on it. If you still have the installation booklet, follow the diagram on page 6. Pick up the DEI siren from eBay or your local car audio/alarm shop if your looking for the beep type. Hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions. Edit: Reason for the use of the relay is because the signal from the brain is negative and the siren or the horn will need a postive signal, so the relay acts as a switch and converts the negative signal to postive when you press you arm/disarm button or even panic mode. this guy pretty much covered everything you need to know... most 'horn' out puts are pulsed so the horn honks, doesnt stay on the whole time the unit is sounding...some units have a feature to turn the output to constant.. and most horn wires in vehicles are negative...
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09-06-2008, 02:29 AM	#19
t_bone44 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm well guys...didnt work. i got the relay and i did everything to the diagram and i couldnt get either the horn OR the siren i bought to work
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*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,742 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 well guys...didnt work. i got the relay and i did everything to the diagram and i couldnt get either the horn OR the siren i bought to work did you try to hit the lock button twice like i said?
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09-07-2008, 12:54 AM	#21
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 32 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,534 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by t_bone44 in the booklet it says there is an horn honk output. that send pulses to the horn. im not sure if the wire is there or not. ill look tomorrow. but where can i find a beep type sound? i dont really want the stock horn but if i need to i will. all it will do on a 712 is panic the horn, if memory serves me on the dozens Ive done get a real alarm Last edited by Forklift : 09-07-2008 at 12:56 AM.
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09-07-2008, 12:56 AM	#22
*orangesonoma* registered s10 sex offender Age: 30 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 37,742 Location: Indian Trail, NC User is: OffLine	Re: hooking sound to alarm Quote: Originally Posted by Forklift all it will do on a 712 is panic the horn and honk on the second pulse of the lock button...
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