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Old 09-27-2007, 04:41 PM   #1
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Is it a good idea to use a distribution block for grounds so they can all be grounded at the same place?

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Old 09-27-2007, 04:45 PM   #2
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Re: Grounds

i don't think it matters just as long as you get them all to a good ground. i will be running mine to pretty much the same spot on the frame with my batteries in the bed.
Old 09-27-2007, 06:33 PM   #3
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Re: Grounds

a distribution ground block is perfectly fine
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Re: Grounds

a ground is a ground, it doesnt have to all be grounding in the same spot, its best but its no big deal.

i personally like to ground my stuff all in one spot if possible
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Re: Grounds

Quote: Originally Posted by beaniebmx
a ground is a ground, it doesnt have to all be grounding in the same spot, its best but its no big deal.

i personally like to ground my stuff all in one spot if possible
WRONG if you don't ground them in the same spot you will create a ground loop
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Re: Grounds

As long as its grounded to a good spot(chassis) a dist. block is fine.
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what exactly is a ground loop?


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Old 09-27-2007, 11:26 PM   #8
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ha ha ha ha ...........................
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Re: Grounds

Quote: Originally Posted by juddspaintballs
a distribution ground block is perfectly fine
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Re: Grounds

I used a dist. block with mine and have no ill effects. I drilled a hole in the floor of my blazer and attached the main ground wire to the frame. FYI
Old 09-28-2007, 12:31 AM   #11
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Re: Grounds

i'm using a fused power distribution and ground distribution combo block. 1/0 in one side with 4 4awg out (for power) and then 4 4awg in and 1/0 out (for ground). i'm grounded to the frame too
Old 09-28-2007, 10:16 AM   #12
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Re: Grounds

I only have one amp but plan on having one more soon, so I could run 1/0 to the frame and 2 4's out?
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Re: Grounds

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Re: Grounds

i will be running around eight 0 gauge grounds to the frame in 1 spot. the more the better on comp systems!
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Re: Grounds

you might as well just solder those grounds to the frame. i can imagine your frame is going to have more resistance than 8 runs of 1/0 to the same spot.
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true.....
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Re: Grounds

or have your frame copper plated, lol
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heyyyyyyyy now there is a thought!!!!!!!!!
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I have seen alot of guys weld grounds to the frame
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Re: Grounds

Wouldnt the heat of the weld damage the wire?
Old 09-28-2007, 05:02 PM   #21
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Re: Grounds

Quote: Originally Posted by 97SSindiana
Wouldnt the heat of the weld damage the wire?
i would solder. not weld...
the frame is thinner than the wire. so it wont be TOO hard with a torch
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Re: Grounds

weld a 3/8'' bolt to the frame then attach the ground to that. CRIMP and solder a copper lug to the end of the cable attach it to the bolt and then seal it with paint. Soldering lugs on without first crimping them can create a resistance, but if u crimp one on them solder u have an excellent electrical and mechanical connection to the wire

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Old 09-28-2007, 07:34 PM   #23
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Re: Grounds

I never heat my wires, it changes the characteristics of the wire. I use only compression style connections, I never crimp. Use a common ground location, clean all paint and crap off of the metal. And then grease the spot so no rust appears.
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Re: Grounds

if u heat copper hot enough to change its characteristics when soldering u dont know how to solder, it takes much more heat to change it that it takes for most standard electrical solders to melt.
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Re: Grounds

crimping before soldering???

use compression fittings instead of solder???

changing the characteristics of wire by soldering???(paraphrasing)

wow.....3 years of electronics in high school and having a father that was an electrician and 20 + years of installing stereos don't quite have me prepared for these statements!

i guess solder or printed circuit boards should never have been invented,huh?

wow....i'm just shaking my head in disbelief
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fien ok im fuking wrong whatever
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Re: Grounds

had a car that was wrecked......it would not run.....there was a broke wire that was repaired with a butt connector.....it was some sensor wire.....

cut off the connectors solder the wires...heatshrink...wrapped with electrical tape....the car ran!

so if there was an arguement that says butt connectors create resitance....solder does not....then i'd be agreeing right now!
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Re: Grounds

what i said:
Soldering lugs on without first crimping them can create a resistance, but if u crimp one on them solder u have an excellent electrical and mechanical connection to the wire

what i should have said:
Improperly Soldering lugs on without first crimping them can create a resistance, but if u crimp one on them solder u have an excellent electrical and mechanical connection to the wire

i guess i could have been a little more clear. I have seen many "cold soldered" joints that failed because of solder being flowed on to instead of "in to" a solder joint

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Old 09-28-2007, 10:59 PM   #29
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i solder.....no crimp.....i used to crimp then solder but thought it was a waste of time.....



that's 4 ga. soldered to a 4 lug with no crimp......lifting my vice off the bench....mechanically strong enough for me bro...but i have a tough time seeing greater resistance

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Re: Grounds

i've soldered 4awg with no crimp plenty of times and i'll be damned. the only way to get that lug back off is to melt the solder again.


i still don't understand the statement about changing the characteristics of copper w/heat. copper is copper is copper. when copper is molten it's still copper and when it cools it's still copper. still conducts electricity the same once it's cool
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Re: Grounds

I am not saying that soldering does not work well, it is the strongest connection, I am talking about the audible properties. I had extremely highend audio when I was first married, the kids changed all that, but I tried listening to soldered connections vs the compression style, and man, what a difference. Crimped is garbage, compression is awesome.
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Re: Grounds

Quote: Originally Posted by Sasquatch
I am not saying that soldering does not work well, it is the strongest connection, I am talking about the audible properties. I had extremely highend audio when I was first married, the kids changed all that, but I tried listening to soldered connections vs the compression style, and man, what a difference. Crimped is garbage, compression is awesome.

i see your point i guess. compression is pretty nice and always looks good to boot
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sasquatch
I am not saying that soldering does not work well, it is the strongest connection, I am talking about the audible properties. I had extremely highend audio when I was first married, the kids changed all that, but I tried listening to soldered connections vs the compression style, and man, what a difference. Crimped is garbage, compression is awesome.
on that note......i've got high end audio at home.....i've got straightwire level 3 interconnects(4 pairs) and a pair of level 3 speaker cables....all terminations are soldered and i just double checked...they are not crimped!
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