Fiber Optics

Nate8727 · 11-06-2009, 05:27 PM

Just thought I'd start a thread asking a question about fiber optics.

Do you think Fiber Optics will replace traditional wiring in cars/trucks in the future? The benefits are just sick based on what I've been reading lately.

Traditional wire and fiber optics don't have a noticeable difference in speed, but the bandwidth is far greater with fiber optics than traditional copper wire ever could be.

That's just one big reason. So instead of having 100 different wires running all over the place you could have one fiber optic wire. The same can be said for the size of wire.

Fiber optic wire is lighter, and can be made much thinner than traditional wire and will still yield a higher output. Also the attenuation is much lower than traditional copper wire.

Just food for thought.

MeltingPlastic · 11-06-2009, 05:38 PM

Its in a few cars already, but honestly, with all the new vehicles getting high speed CAN bus's, i dont really think they'll need to. I had a problem with my 08 silverado wed night and my buddy scanned it with his tech2, god the things it was able to tell me about my truck..

Honestly, fiberoptic to me is too fragile and too expensive to implement... and splitting the signal is NOT easy

neo71665 · 11-06-2009, 06:02 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

Honestly, fiberoptic to me is too fragile and too expensive to implement... and splitting the signal is NOT easy

You will see it in homes before you see it in cars. I've had the displeasure of working with the crap and I'll tell ya I hope we never deal with it again. I'll take my 12-2 romex over it any day in a house.

juddspaintballs · 11-06-2009, 06:04 PM

i don't see it as practical in a traditional internal combustion powered vehicle. cost vs. benefit just doesn't make it practical.

Nate8727 · 11-06-2009, 06:37 PM

Well what about for just Audio/Video system then? It could be quite useful for increased capability and in digital as well.

neo71665 · 11-06-2009, 10:36 PM

The complexity of it is makes it not work a crap. Its all cool for phone lines and light shows but as speaker wire or anything else its worthless. You have to add so many extra components it drives the price out the roof.

old_skool_noma · 11-07-2009, 01:35 AM

the only benefit i could see is replacing traditional RCA type cables for a cleaner digital signal

DAStack · 11-17-2009, 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by old_skool_noma

the only benefit i could see is replacing traditional RCA type cables for a cleaner digital signal

i 100% agree with that thes the only thing that it could be used for and i think that should happen would need to worry about shielding or any thing.

S-10MASTER · 11-18-2009, 12:00 AM

Its ****ing fantastic for internet. We have fiber optic lines here and the internet is lightning fast.

bobditts · 11-18-2009, 12:43 AM

I have fiber between my HU and my sound processor in my car. No feedback or any EMF interference. gotta love it.

Forklift · 11-18-2009, 01:14 AM

too delicate for a car, too many moving parts and heat sources, plus you still have to get power to that part to get the signal, decode it, and make something happen like rolling up a window, moving a speaker, or adjusting the thottle

LetsGoDragging · 11-18-2009, 07:23 AM

from someone who installs and works with fiber almost on a daily basis, it wouldn't be too practical for say a complete wiring harness. The cost would be outrageous, not to mention the fragile nature of the glass. With fiber, all it takes is one little break and that is it. at least with copper, you can bend it at a pretty tight radius and still allow very minimal interference.

11-06-2009, 05:27 PM	#1
Nate8727 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 269 Location: Pekin, IL User is: OffLine	Fiber Optics Just thought I'd start a thread asking a question about fiber optics. Do you think Fiber Optics will replace traditional wiring in cars/trucks in the future? The benefits are just sick based on what I've been reading lately. Traditional wire and fiber optics don't have a noticeable difference in speed, but the bandwidth is far greater with fiber optics than traditional copper wire ever could be. That's just one big reason. So instead of having 100 different wires running all over the place you could have one fiber optic wire. The same can be said for the size of wire. Fiber optic wire is lighter, and can be made much thinner than traditional wire and will still yield a higher output. Also the attenuation is much lower than traditional copper wire. Just food for thought.
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11-06-2009, 05:38 PM	#2
MeltingPlastic Broken Handed Superman Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,267 Location: Hackensack, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics Its in a few cars already, but honestly, with all the new vehicles getting high speed CAN bus's, i dont really think they'll need to. I had a problem with my 08 silverado wed night and my buddy scanned it with his tech2, god the things it was able to tell me about my truck.. Honestly, fiberoptic to me is too fragile and too expensive to implement... and splitting the signal is NOT easy
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11-06-2009, 06:02 PM	#3
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,005 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic Honestly, fiberoptic to me is too fragile and too expensive to implement... and splitting the signal is NOT easy You will see it in homes before you see it in cars. I've had the displeasure of working with the crap and I'll tell ya I hope we never deal with it again. I'll take my 12-2 romex over it any day in a house.
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11-06-2009, 06:04 PM	#4
juddspaintballs I pee standing Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,098 Location: Union Bridge, MD User is: Online	Re: Fiber Optics i don't see it as practical in a traditional internal combustion powered vehicle. cost vs. benefit just doesn't make it practical.
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11-06-2009, 06:37 PM	#5
Nate8727 Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 269 Location: Pekin, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics Well what about for just Audio/Video system then? It could be quite useful for increased capability and in digital as well.
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11-06-2009, 10:36 PM	#6
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,005 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics The complexity of it is makes it not work a crap. Its all cool for phone lines and light shows but as speaker wire or anything else its worthless. You have to add so many extra components it drives the price out the roof.
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11-07-2009, 01:35 AM	#7
old_skool_noma ... i dont know? Age: 21 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 7,244 Location: Heath/Newark, OH User is: Online	Re: Fiber Optics the only benefit i could see is replacing traditional RCA type cables for a cleaner digital signal
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11-17-2009, 11:45 PM	#8
DAStack Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 37 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics Quote: Originally Posted by old_skool_noma the only benefit i could see is replacing traditional RCA type cables for a cleaner digital signal i 100% agree with that thes the only thing that it could be used for and i think that should happen would need to worry about shielding or any thing.
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11-18-2009, 12:00 AM	#9
S-10MASTER You can't say fuck Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,621 Location: 26.34°N 127.78°E -39.96Ft. User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics Its ****ing fantastic for internet. We have fiber optic lines here and the internet is lightning fast.
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11-18-2009, 12:43 AM	#10
bobditts banned Age: 25 Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 947 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics I have fiber between my HU and my sound processor in my car. No feedback or any EMF interference. gotta love it.
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11-18-2009, 01:14 AM	#11
Forklift Its that dam ADD! Age: 33 Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,456 Location: Vancouver, WA User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics too delicate for a car, too many moving parts and heat sources, plus you still have to get power to that part to get the signal, decode it, and make something happen like rolling up a window, moving a speaker, or adjusting the thottle
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11-18-2009, 07:23 AM	#12
LetsGoDragging Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 19 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Fiber Optics from someone who installs and works with fiber almost on a daily basis, it wouldn't be too practical for say a complete wiring harness. The cost would be outrageous, not to mention the fragile nature of the glass. With fiber, all it takes is one little break and that is it. at least with copper, you can bend it at a pretty tight radius and still allow very minimal interference.
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