10-27-2009, 06:14 PM
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12W6's or 3's?
So I'm debating on putting two 12" JL W6's or W3's in my truck. I'm already planning on using a JL HD750/1 amp either way. Obviously the W6's would be better but for me, a guy who's never had any kind of subs in any of my cars, would I be happy with the W3's? I want it to be LOUD.
And that aside, would I even have enough room for two 12W6's? I'm already looking into getting a custom made box, something like a giant wedge to take up the entire extended cab area, but without restricting my room in the front too much. |
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10-27-2009, 06:58 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
i would go with the w6. they are alot louder. and you can build a box for those that wont make you lose any space up front.
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10-27-2009, 09:04 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
You think the 750/1 will be enough for them?
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10-27-2009, 11:14 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
they are 400w rms right? . are they dvc or svc?
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10-27-2009, 11:23 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
if your amp is 1 ohm stable you can wire the w6's parallel. that way you get 750w rms out of your amp. that would be pretty good for thos subs.
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10-28-2009, 09:14 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
the subs are 400w rms, dual voice coil. the amp has a 1.5-4 ohm output.
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10-28-2009, 12:06 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
that amp is crazy awsome my cuz has 2 on 2 w7 13.5s and it rapes his little car. Um if you want loud deff go with the W6 they also have great sound quality also and that amp should handle them fine.
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10-28-2009, 05:19 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
yea man i just put in one w6 into my ext cab sonoma and it is amazing! i have a 1000.1 tma amp pushing it in a custom ported box that sits perfectly behind my drivers seat! the sound quality and output on the w6s are awesome! id say w6 all the way man!
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10-28-2009, 08:00 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
not a big jl fan there are alot of subs out there for cheaper and would kill a w6
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10-28-2009, 08:07 PM
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10-29-2009, 01:37 AM
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10-29-2009, 02:43 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
he is right though
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10-29-2009, 03:39 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
he is right if all you are after is SPL versus sound quality, go with Fi or Digital Designs
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10-29-2009, 12:35 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
or look at ia,aq,ssa,dc,sundown,AA. there are just alot of great subs out there. and that jl amp you could get a sundown 2000d for like under 600 and put it on anything i named or a fully loaded btl 12 or 15 you would be really happy imo but its your money
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10-29-2009, 12:38 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
I'm surprised it took this long for someone to throw that out there. Just so happens I'm particularly partial to JL but... like what?
Actually I'm after both, to a certain extent, which is another reason why I like JLs. Is the biggest argument that they're overpriced for what you get? |
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10-29-2009, 12:50 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
i was on the jl boat also for along time but after i had a kid kill my two 13w7 with two 12s i sold them the next day. really did some looking and now i have a stetsom 9k2d and i just order two 18 dc lvl5 my truck will have 6 bats and 3/0 welding cable running to the amp. and its going to be loud
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10-29-2009, 12:56 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
you said you wanted to be loud i am just trying to help you get there and jl is not the way
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10-29-2009, 08:02 PM
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10-29-2009, 08:55 PM
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10-29-2009, 09:05 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
either 2 W6s or 3 W3s. I did the same amp on 3 W3s and it was STUPID loud, probably the loudest thing Ive built/done in a long ass time
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10-29-2009, 10:47 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
bet u had a great ohm load with three. |
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10-30-2009, 01:31 AM
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10-30-2009, 03:13 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
I have 2 JL 12w6 that I'm going to be selling pm if interested. They haven't been hammered or used very long.
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10-30-2009, 03:53 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
W6s are nice....i prefer the new memphis audio CM mahself (MOJO)
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10-30-2009, 10:05 PM
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10-31-2009, 12:15 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
bad ohm load i said you must had a great ohm load. there is no way to have a 2 channel amp to run three and get a great watts per sub. you can do it if ur volts are right but still your ohm load will be off even if you had 6 ohm 8ohm subs. and you will get half the power + amp will run really hot thats how you **** amps up. if you had a 2 channel 1000 watt amp hooked to three you would be probly around 200 watts per sub not alot if you want to be loud Last edited by iamlayinframe : 10-31-2009 at 12:16 AM. |
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10-31-2009, 02:05 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
 BTW, did he mention the amp that was used? |
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10-31-2009, 02:25 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
i have 2 13.5" JL W3's for sale that fit perfectly in an extended cab. only $350.
 deal of a lifetime! pm me if interested! |
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10-31-2009, 02:44 AM
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10-31-2009, 03:47 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
as for your second post, this was in a mono amp, not a 2-channel, so it was just fine as far as having 3 8ohm subs on a 2 channel, its usually still going to be just fine. Sure it will be at a 2.66 ohm, which most 2 channel amps are fine with. Sure they get hot, but its not that bad. I had mine like that off of a MTX 2150? for years and I only got it to shut off maybe 2x and it took alot, like the amp was covered and in Panama City Florida in mid August railing it for the ladies for hours. Believe me when I say it, 2.66 aint bad, lower than that is trouble unless your 2ohm stable |
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10-31-2009, 03:48 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
and honestly people, most folks are running monos anyway, not 2-channels |
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10-31-2009, 03:21 PM
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10-31-2009, 03:59 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
Please show us some math here to explain why you believe this
i bet ur the type who thinks a 3000 watt boss amp does rated. you do the math there are only a few amps that does rated u dont have to be a genius to know that. btw why would you want to put three on one amp if there 500 watt rms your not going to be close to that. |
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10-31-2009, 10:45 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
if it's me I know Boss will not do rated, even the Zed made Boss amps didnt do what Boss rated them at, they were usually over rated by about 2.5 times their actual output. To be honest I dont really care about the RMS rating of the sub, so long as I'm below it. Secondly I generally dont like to try to run an amp below a 4 ohm load, I know Im not getting all the power I could be, but I get better sound quality and I extend the life of my amps. |
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11-01-2009, 01:56 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
not talking to you |
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11-02-2009, 05:54 AM
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11-02-2009, 06:08 PM
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11-02-2009, 10:34 PM
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lol for what  |
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11-02-2009, 10:46 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
Oh man this thread is teh lulz.
To the OP Im not gonna go into why I dislike JL, personally I would go with something else, but thats just me (my choices would be SSA Icon, Fi Q, or DC sound labs LVL 4 for a nice balance). But If you are dead set on JL I would do the W6s. They are much much much better than the w3s. |
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11-03-2009, 02:27 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
idk if anyone saw his last post but he said he already bought some Plutonium GZPW 18SPL. lol
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11-03-2009, 07:15 PM
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11-03-2009, 08:28 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
u fail and at life
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11-03-2009, 09:21 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
And with all of that internet boutique goodness, you are suddenly someone that knows something. Dumbass. All of this because "you got served" by some random highschool kid. Grow the **** up. And he says I've failed at life.... |
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11-03-2009, 10:50 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
like i said u fail did i say i never heard them no! did i say i was a noob and didnt know anything about amps,subs,etc? no u fail like i said go try to think of something esle to come up with. i really needed to perpare myself for that good job
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11-04-2009, 01:03 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
What?!? Every reply in this thread reads you are a noob. "Hey, try blah blah. I haven't heard it; but it's the tits, yo." Can you even tell me what the impedance of three 4 ohm subs would be in parallel? Bonus point for not using some audio site's plug and compute calculator. My answers won't be based on belief; they'll be based on scientific fact. Ask the question, and I'll spoon feed you the answer. Then you can REALLY impress the homies at your local McDonald's parking lot! At least the last dumbass to breeze through here better rebuttals than "u fail". Throw a GTFO and a "Die!" in there and your shtick is complete. I really need to quit replying to these dumbass posters. |
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11-04-2009, 09:23 AM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
lmao good one
fail once agin |
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11-05-2009, 10:54 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
To the OP: If you have the money, go with the W6's. People say that they're overpriced, but I disagree. They're expensive, yes, but JL subs have an exclusive sound that I have yet to hear any other sub reproduce. All this bitching about how loud people are and no one has mentioned box type/sizes/specs? If you end up going with the W3's, you won't be disappointed, I just think you'll be happier with W6's. Sure, you can have 5db's more than me, but I'll have the harder hitting sub out of the two. Box design is 80% of the game. You can build yourself a box for those W6's that will slam the shit out of your truck. Personally, I'd rather have a hard hitting sub than a loud, tinny sounding fart box. Sure the fart box will be louder, but it won't hit the low's worth shit. If I were in your shoes, I'd get the W6's and build a box that will slam the low's. Besides, the chicks dig the hard hitting low's better than the annoying high pitched tinny sound of an "SPL" box. |
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11-06-2009, 02:26 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
I put three W3s on the amp and they arent 500 watt RMS speakers and it was stupid loud! STUPID! Knocked a clock off the wall next to it |
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11-06-2009, 02:37 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
As far as the ohm load, that would be a 2.66ohm off of 3 8ohm speakers. That JL amp reconfigures its power supply based on the ohm load sent to it, it was fine.
To the OP, if your going to do the 750/1, Id rather see you do 3 W3s than 2 W6s. It would cost less, have more cone area, and be a great match. I tried to edit, couldnt do it |
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11-06-2009, 07:25 PM
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Re: 12W6's or 3's?
thanks dude, this thread went in a completely different direction than i intended. haha i actually stopped following it for a while. anyway though, i decided to go with the w6's afterall. i know what i want at this point and i don't want to cheap-out on anything.
um... not really sure what this guy's referring to, but i'm still saving up for the subs and the amp. i'm actually looking into getting a box built in the meantime, but not sure if that's such a great idea seeing as how i don't have the subs yet. as far as boxes go, i could use some schooling. don't get me wrong, i want a loud system, but most importantly i want good sound quality. i have an extended cab that i'm planning on filling up with the box, but i still want to be able to lean back and not worry about losing much leg room. obviously custom-made, maybe a like a wedge? sure wouldn't mind some advice in this department... |
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