Teaching Fiberglass (part one and two)

[s10fan2000]

noob question alert..... whats "MDF" stand for?

[sdime98]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium-density_fibreboard

you could use any kinda wood really for a starter project, just whatever you have around...

[s10fan2000]

thanks man. i wnat to try this shit really bad. i think i will go shopping either this weekend or the weekend after next.

[jd101proof]

Hey man, not sure how many people actually say it......but i wanted to say thanks for putting up this thread and teaching us all a new "trade" to incorporate into our projects. I'm going to read through it once i get more time. Hell, ive waited 5 years to start this truck build, so an extra week learning to do some very clean, custom, fiberglass work will be well worth it.

Thanks again for sharing your knowledge, and taking the time to post up pics. Im sure there are more of us out there that agree that you dont get the credit you deserve for your posts, and help!!

jd

[NickZigaitis]

Its worth the effort

[comp]

anything new ???

[handmedown93]

Whn it comes to the dash are you fiberglasing over it or making a new compleate mold for it

[NickZigaitis]

Quote: Originally Posted by handmedown93

Whn it comes to the dash are you fiberglasing over it or making a new compleate mold for it

I'm fiberglassing the bezel only in the area that it was modified. Not the whole thing. The rest of it is sanded plastic and the fiberglass area and the plastic area are blended together.

[ylodrgn]

nick,

first things first.... THANK YOU for the amazing information... i am a noob at all of this and it has helped me understand a bit more about that all goes into doing this stuff... there is alot of pride in when someone asks who did this in/to your ride and you can say "I DID"... i will be trying somestuff on mine soon, so you can expect to be getting alot of questions from me in the near future.

[nutuker]

great work. i might have to get with you to see if i can get you to do some for me? looks great though

[chsdrummer07]

Question... because im pretty sure no one else has asked. If I wanted to put a design into my console that im going to be building and glassing, how would I go about doing that? Would you fiber glass the cloth that has the design on to the console? or what... sorry if thats a stupid question, im pretty new at working with fiberglass. any way, thanks!

[sdime98]

explain "design".

[chsdrummer07]

Like a fabric with a design in it. I want to put that on my console but i want it glassed. sorry if this is confusing...

[Quake Splash]

Erm.. If for example you mean fabric with flames stitched into it or whatever you won't be able to do that. The glass will cover the fabric up. I suppose you could cut the design into wood or foam (that's if the resin won't eat it) and then use a light oz glass over that.

You could maybe finish glassing, and then resin that cloth onto the finished glassed piece and wet sand it to shine.. But I dunno.

[chsdrummer07]

Ok... well I think I'll try a small sample peice thats not on the console and see how it goes with putting the resin over the fabric after glassing. If anyone has tips or anything please let me (or us depending on who cares) know. Thanks Quake Splash!

[fluX]

Nick, once again I will say it, YOU'RE A GENIUS! Your work is amazing and thanks a lot for this thread and any help you have given out over the years. I wish I could get my shit straight so I can get back to doing my fiberglass work. Thanks again man. Hopefully I can get back on the grind and get a new project. I just need to get my mind right.

[mccord]

Quote: Originally Posted by dillon_b12

Nick,
I was watching some show called "Street Tuner Challenge" on Speed Channel earlier and they glassed a sub box. They stretched their fabric over their frame...applied resin...applied bondo and then painted.

Is there anyway in hell that box will hold together with only cloth and resin(no fiberglass).

thats the same thing as fiberglassin

[sdime98]

Quote: Originally Posted by mccord

thats the same thing as fiberglassin

no its not....that isn't fiberglassing, thats hack.

[NickZigaitis]

Quote: Originally Posted by mccord

thats the same thing as fiberglassin

Let me ask you friend, if thats fiberglassing, then explain to me where the glass is at from the described situation?

There is none, which is exactly why I have explained that same show and the example they produce as exactly what not to do. Unfortunately their f-u-c-king asses are on tv and any retard watching is gonna believe that method is acceptable. Well, .....it is if your also willing to accept cracking, lol.

[mccord]

Quote: Originally Posted by NickZigaitis

Let me ask you friend, if thats fiberglassing, then explain to me where the glass is at from the described situation?

There is none, which is exactly why I have explained that same show and the example they produce as exactly what not to do. Unfortunately their f-u-c-king asses are on tv and any retard watching is gonna believe that method is acceptable. Well, .....it is if your also willing to accept cracking, lol.

i c it as glassin and i c it as the wrong way to glass. i use the fiberglass cloth and shit not fabric.

[NickZigaitis]

Quote: Originally Posted by fluXXor

Nick, once again I will say it, YOU'RE A GENIUS! Your work is amazing and thanks a lot for this thread and any help you have given out over the years. I wish I could get my shit straight so I can get back to doing my fiberglass work. Thanks again man. Hopefully I can get back on the grind and get a new project. I just need to get my mind right.

Appreciate it. I hope you all got something from it all.

[paint toad]

Quote: Originally Posted by mccord

i c it as glassin and i c it as the wrong way to glass. i use the fiberglass cloth and shit not fabric.

but it's not....what's so hard to understand......you MUST have fiberglass to fiberglass something.period

it's like ''fiberglass resin''........there is no fiberglass in resin

it's polyester resin

[mccord]

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

but it's not....what's so hard to understand......you MUST have fiberglass to fiberglass something.period

it's like ''fiberglass resin''........there is no fiberglass in resin

it's polyester resin

u kno wat i mean tho

[sdime98]

Quote: Originally Posted by mccord

i c it as glassin and i c it as the wrong way to glass. i use the fiberglass cloth and shit not fabric.

no...i don't really know what you mean?

[billum]

lol ok noob to this but the best way to start is dive head first into it im starting on my center console and working my way to my shifter and then to my dash i figure if i do it that way i can f*** it up and fix it and get the tricks down then work on the more important stuff

my dash broke inside and i need to fix the part that holds the radio in.


i will be taking pics and i dont wanna hear it if im doing it wrong in your opnion. i am open to advice but dont bash on me like i said im new to this. but i got all day tommrrow off and all weekend to work on some small stuff to get the feel for it. will someone load the pics up for me ill just send them to you and someone else upload them to here like small? everytime i load them they are way to big.

im gonna have like 40 pics maby less but i want input will you guys tell me the best way to get the chicken wire to hold on the plastic befor i lay the mat i realy want this thing strong im gonna put my indash flip out back in and dont want it falling out

[billum]

update i didnt add but maby 3-4 drops to about a measureing cup worth of resin and its taking foever to dry
also is this stuff bad for your health to breathe because i have to drive it to work later and dont wanna be stoned going to work.

pics will be up later tonight

[paint toad]

no...the best way to start is not diving headfirst in......start small so you get a feel for it.....you already wasted a cup of resin because you don't know what you are doing......i might add that you are now going to strip it back off

if you had spent more time researching you might have read where me and nick both state that you need to start small or you will overwhelm yourself and get frustrated

and if you don't want to hear that you are doing it wrong then you might want to stop posting right now because i can tell right now you are going to hear that alot because you can't even read the mixing instructions on the can that states how many drops of hardner per oz. of resin are required

[billum]

Quote: Originally Posted by paint toad

no...the best way to start is not diving headfirst in......start small so you get a feel for it.....you already wasted a cup of resin because you don't know what you are doing......i might add that you are now going to strip it back off

if you had spent more time researching you might have read where me and nick both state that you need to start small or you will overwhelm yourself and get frustrated

and if you don't want to hear that you are doing it wrong then you might want to stop posting right now because i can tell right now you are going to hear that alot because you can't even read the mixing instructions on the can that states how many drops of hardner per oz. of resin are required

batch dried slow but still dryed i could have used a lil more hardner tho

also it was on only a few small parts nothing seen just inside of dash itself
it came out somewhat ok i do need more practice tho befor i even think about doing my doors
it was hard to get the pieces of broken plastic to hold with just glass alone next time im gonna hot glue then with maby just a dot or 2 to hold them while the glass sets up. becasue i didnt pull the dash it did make the truck smell like ass all day lol but for my first time i did good
also i got the batch a lil light on hardner but i didnt use a great deal of resn ether i forgot to mention i measured it like the can said i just went about 1 drop light

[paint toad]

ok...you said a measuring cup which i automatically assumed it was 8 ounces

granted you should use 7-12 drops per ounce(depending on temp) then i thought you came up like 50+ drops shy.....

[billum]