Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to!

dillon_b12 · 01-18-2006, 10:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by blazin24

i've read the forum ten damn times already but havent' had anyones opinion on which to use. either the 5 wide or 1 wide. Also for the turn signals and bright indicator which do i use the 194 or the T1.5? Thanks

I'm confused about this as well...the 5ers or the one wide angle which is best?

blazin24 · 01-19-2006, 07:35 PM

Also does anyone knows if the dash lights would be the same for 2000 ford ranger with the v6? My friend wants to know how to do it on his ford and i would assume its basicly the same but we haven't ripped his dash apart yet. thanks

Too bad its a ford i don't care for them.

"Super 10" · 02-02-2006, 06:26 PM

Bad ass mod.How much of a pain in the ass is it to do to a 91 s-10?

blazin24 · 02-02-2006, 08:23 PM

Well i gave up on my 93 blazer i didn't know how to get it off wth out breaking it. also it was a pain in the ass to get the light switches off and expecially the vent controls. I am rollin stock

nivekr214 · 02-03-2006, 11:23 PM

ok im having a problem. ive done over my cluster with the blue led's. it worked really good for about a month. now i got friggen dim spots on certain areas. some of the bulbs just wont light up anymore. today i thought i fixed it only to find out later on that night when it went dim it wasnt really fixed. anyone know any solutions to this problem. im having a hunch its a crappy connextion from the socket. i dunno just a guess. let me know if any of u guys had the same problem or if u know a solution. thanks

rlith · 02-04-2006, 08:40 AM

pull the cluster and drop a a touch of solder on the connectors.

BoneZQ8GMC · 02-08-2006, 07:06 PM

I have an Envoy with White needles, are there lights behind the needles? I want to have my needles glow white, and the rest of the cluster red. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks fellas.

digital_xtreme · 02-09-2006, 01:16 PM

Superbrightleds sells the T1.5, I'm probably going to replace all my gauge lights with the LED T1.5's they sell but i'm not sure if they will work or if I need to take the stock bulbs out and replace those with individual LED's instead...

digital_xtreme · 02-09-2006, 01:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BoneZQ8GMC

I have an Envoy with White needles, are there lights behind the needles? I want to have my needles glow white, and the rest of the cluster red. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks fellas.

Yeah it's possible but it will be a fade... since there aren't individual lights behind each needle... there is a piece of plastic that routes the lights from each bulb... so there is plastic that routes light to the needle and different parts of the gauge cluster also...so there really isn't any way to just make the gauges light up the color you want without the rest lighting up that color... unless you did a new face gauge install... since new face gauges have there own built in lighting and then you can make the needles the color you want and only the needs will be that color at night.

kuch0778 · 02-15-2006, 04:15 PM

i cant see the pics

Rondog · 02-15-2006, 06:06 PM

Without referring me back to previous post which don't completely explain to ME, can someone tell me exactly how many of each type of bulb would I need for a 2001 auto with tach? Also to include headlight and a/c controls. Thanks

rlith · 02-15-2006, 09:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rondog

Without referring me back to previous post which don't completely explain to ME, can someone tell me exactly how many of each type of bulb would I need for a 2001 auto with tach? Also to include headlight and a/c controls. Thanks

The amount of bulbs is explicitly specified on the 1st post page. Look towards the end, you will find it.

Rondog · 02-15-2006, 11:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rlith

The amount of bulbs is explicitly specified on the 1st post page. Look towards the end, you will find it.

Well if you look at the pics that Em Tea posted on the 2nd page, the gauge cluster appears to have 6 bulbs and the a/c controls look to have 4? I don't know why you keep referring people to your previous post when it seems that many people are confused.

If anyone else has done this mod and would be willing to give the correct amount/type of bulbs, it would be greatly appreciated.

digital_xtreme · 02-16-2006, 01:46 AM

On my 02 blazer, I have 6 bulbs to my gauge cluster... I don't know how many bulbs it is for my a/c but I could find out and let you know. I ordered 1 T1.5 LED light from superbrightled's to see if it will work... i'll let you guys know how it goes...otherwise I will be buying 6 194 LED's to replace the bulbs.

BlazerX01 · 02-16-2006, 01:56 AM

Hey this might help Go to the junk yrd and find a 95-98 Mustang and pull the light sockets out of the cluster. They use regular 194 bulbs without having to soilder anything.

Rondog · 02-16-2006, 10:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by digital_xtreme

On my 02 blazer, I have 6 bulbs to my gauge cluster... I don't know how many bulbs it is for my a/c but I could find out and let you know. I ordered 1 T1.5 LED light from superbrightled's to see if it will work... i'll let you guys know how it goes...otherwise I will be buying 6 194 LED's to replace the bulbs.

That sounds great, please keep me updated. I will be installing a glassed passenger airbag in the next couple of weeks and want to do the bulbs at the same time. I drive my truck daily and don't want to keep tearing it apart if I don't have to.

lows10blazer · 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM

are the x5 194's better or should i get the single flat led 194

Kaptain03sonoma · 02-25-2006, 05:59 PM

The more led's in each bulb the brighter it will be. When I bought mine I took apart everything to see what type of bulb and how many were needed, and then I ordered the correct sizes with the most possible led's in them. I think it turned out well, nice and bright and very easy to see everything.

ProTouring2.2 · 02-28-2006, 10:47 PM

Are these the correct bulbs to get for a 98 w/o tach?

3 T1.5 Instrument LED bulb (3)$1.79 Blue
5 WLED 5-LED Wide Angle LED bulb (5)$ 2.79 Blue

$24.84 total

digital_xtreme · 03-01-2006, 12:24 AM

I believe you will need 6 of the wide angle LED's... i just started replacing mine last night... and noticed a few things. When you pull out the metal clips that hold the original bulbs in the socket, you have to keep those clips for when you put the led's in. Also you have to bend the LED wires to the side so that when you push them into the sockets with the metal clips in place they touch the metal clips to get power after being installed again. And be careful taking the metal clips and original bulbs out of those sockets... the bulbs break easy, at least the bottoms do and they are sharp as hell along with the metal clips that hold them in. I'm going to plug my gauges in and make sure it works right. Oh yeah and i busted one of my LED's wires when i was moving it to the side so i'm down 1 LED for my gauge cluster.... oh well lol.

jwood562 · 03-12-2006, 05:00 AM

did anyone order bulbs for their headlight switch on 98+. i dont really want to g o rip mine out before i order them.

so post up bulbs for the headlight switch

winkyhead · 03-12-2006, 12:45 PM

just curious, I've been thinkin about doin this for a while now, but today I just thought about the fact I've painted my interior bulbs before and just started thinkin to myself, is there anything wrong with painting the gauge bulbs? Anyone see somethin wrong with that?

ProTouring2.2 · 03-13-2006, 10:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by winkyhead

just curious, I've been thinkin about doin this for a while now, but today I just thought about the fact I've painted my interior bulbs before and just started thinkin to myself, is there anything wrong with painting the gauge bulbs? Anyone see somethin wrong with that?

they might fade...i've heard some people having their blue fade to like an aqua color...

nbosma · 03-13-2006, 11:57 PM

i have a 92 sonoma 4x4 auto what bulbs do i use i want to do the havc and the cluster any differences between 1st gen and 2 gen?

nbosma · 03-13-2006, 11:57 PM

and can i do my lights on my rear veiw mirror?
thank alot

winkyhead · 03-15-2006, 09:52 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by greenflameS10

they might fade...i've heard some people having their blue fade to like an aqua color...

LOL I got done painting them today and they actually match closer to the PRND321 and odometer then coming out blue. Oh well. Guess I'll get LEDs eventually. And some new needles..... but at least I got the brushed aluminum gauge cover in there. All it took was a nice gash at the top of my thumb with a utility knife!! arg!!! oh well it looks good though. be better when I get leds and new needles anyone know if these needles would work in our trucks gauges?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-U...QQcmdZViewItem

00xtreme85 · 03-15-2006, 10:14 PM

ok, i'm sorry for not reading the whole thread so i hope this wasn't answered already, but after the LEDs are installed, will the dimmer function still work? or is it just an on/off type thing?

lows10blazer · 03-16-2006, 02:25 AM

i put the single led ones in and its a on off thing

DevilDriver · 03-20-2006, 10:52 AM

added to how to section:
http://www.s10forum.com/how_to_conve...ghts_to_ leds

Cosmic Charlie · 03-25-2006, 03:33 PM

I have a '91 S10. Are the instructions similar to these? Does anyone know?

Rondog · 04-01-2006, 11:22 PM

Got mine installed today!

framelayin · 04-03-2006, 07:45 PM

That is sick lookin!!

01-18-2006, 10:10 PM	#151
dillon_b12 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 4,237 Location: Kentucky User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by blazin24 i've read the forum ten damn times already but havent' had anyones opinion on which to use. either the 5 wide or 1 wide. Also for the turn signals and bright indicator which do i use the 194 or the T1.5? Thanks I'm confused about this as well...the 5ers or the one wide angle which is best?
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01-19-2006, 07:35 PM	#152
blazin24 NOT DONE TO MANY PROBLEMS Age: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,497 Location: St. Johns, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Also does anyone knows if the dash lights would be the same for 2000 ford ranger with the v6? My friend wants to know how to do it on his ford and i would assume its basicly the same but we haven't ripped his dash apart yet. thanks Too bad its a ford i don't care for them.
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02-02-2006, 06:26 PM	#153
"Super 10" Registered User Age: 31 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 82 Location: Wolcott Indiana User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Bad ass mod.How much of a pain in the ass is it to do to a 91 s-10?
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02-02-2006, 08:23 PM	#154
blazin24 NOT DONE TO MANY PROBLEMS Age: 18 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,497 Location: St. Johns, MI User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Well i gave up on my 93 blazer i didn't know how to get it off wth out breaking it. also it was a pain in the ass to get the light switches off and expecially the vent controls. I am rollin stock
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02-03-2006, 11:23 PM	#155
nivekr214 Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 85 Location: Lynn, MA User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! ok im having a problem. ive done over my cluster with the blue led's. it worked really good for about a month. now i got friggen dim spots on certain areas. some of the bulbs just wont light up anymore. today i thought i fixed it only to find out later on that night when it went dim it wasnt really fixed. anyone know any solutions to this problem. im having a hunch its a crappy connextion from the socket. i dunno just a guess. let me know if any of u guys had the same problem or if u know a solution. thanks
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02-04-2006, 08:40 AM	#156
rlith Insane Network Engineer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,967 Location: Pittsburgh, PA. User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! pull the cluster and drop a a touch of solder on the connectors.
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02-08-2006, 07:06 PM	#157
BoneZQ8GMC Lovin the Auto! Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Kingston, NH User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! I have an Envoy with White needles, are there lights behind the needles? I want to have my needles glow white, and the rest of the cluster red. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks fellas.
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02-09-2006, 01:16 PM	#158
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,238 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Superbrightleds sells the T1.5, I'm probably going to replace all my gauge lights with the LED T1.5's they sell but i'm not sure if they will work or if I need to take the stock bulbs out and replace those with individual LED's instead...
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02-09-2006, 01:18 PM	#159
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,238 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by BoneZQ8GMC I have an Envoy with White needles, are there lights behind the needles? I want to have my needles glow white, and the rest of the cluster red. Let me know if this is possible. Thanks fellas. Yeah it's possible but it will be a fade... since there aren't individual lights behind each needle... there is a piece of plastic that routes the lights from each bulb... so there is plastic that routes light to the needle and different parts of the gauge cluster also...so there really isn't any way to just make the gauges light up the color you want without the rest lighting up that color... unless you did a new face gauge install... since new face gauges have there own built in lighting and then you can make the needles the color you want and only the needs will be that color at night.
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02-15-2006, 04:15 PM	#160
kuch0778 Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 75 Location: Wichita, Ks User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! i cant see the pics
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02-15-2006, 06:06 PM	#161
Rondog In The Dog House Age: 46 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Without referring me back to previous post which don't completely explain to ME, can someone tell me exactly how many of each type of bulb would I need for a 2001 auto with tach? Also to include headlight and a/c controls. Thanks
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02-15-2006, 09:09 PM	#162
rlith Insane Network Engineer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,967 Location: Pittsburgh, PA. User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by Rondog Without referring me back to previous post which don't completely explain to ME, can someone tell me exactly how many of each type of bulb would I need for a 2001 auto with tach? Also to include headlight and a/c controls. Thanks The amount of bulbs is explicitly specified on the 1st post page. Look towards the end, you will find it.
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02-15-2006, 11:48 PM	#163
Rondog In The Dog House Age: 46 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by rlith The amount of bulbs is explicitly specified on the 1st post page. Look towards the end, you will find it. Well if you look at the pics that Em Tea posted on the 2nd page, the gauge cluster appears to have 6 bulbs and the a/c controls look to have 4? I don't know why you keep referring people to your previous post when it seems that many people are confused. If anyone else has done this mod and would be willing to give the correct amount/type of bulbs, it would be greatly appreciated.
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02-16-2006, 01:46 AM	#164
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,238 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! On my 02 blazer, I have 6 bulbs to my gauge cluster... I don't know how many bulbs it is for my a/c but I could find out and let you know. I ordered 1 T1.5 LED light from superbrightled's to see if it will work... i'll let you guys know how it goes...otherwise I will be buying 6 194 LED's to replace the bulbs.
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02-16-2006, 01:56 AM	#165
BlazerX01 . . . . Age: 100 Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 670 Location: Nor Cal User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Hey this might help Go to the junk yrd and find a 95-98 Mustang and pull the light sockets out of the cluster. They use regular 194 bulbs without having to soilder anything.
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02-16-2006, 10:52 AM	#166
Rondog In The Dog House Age: 46 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by digital_xtreme On my 02 blazer, I have 6 bulbs to my gauge cluster... I don't know how many bulbs it is for my a/c but I could find out and let you know. I ordered 1 T1.5 LED light from superbrightled's to see if it will work... i'll let you guys know how it goes...otherwise I will be buying 6 194 LED's to replace the bulbs. That sounds great, please keep me updated. I will be installing a glassed passenger airbag in the next couple of weeks and want to do the bulbs at the same time. I drive my truck daily and don't want to keep tearing it apart if I don't have to.
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02-20-2006, 08:33 PM	#167
lows10blazer psst psst member Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,664 Location: the bay area User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! are the x5 194's better or should i get the single flat led 194
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02-25-2006, 05:59 PM	#168
Kaptain03sonoma Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 186 Location: Davenport, IA User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! The more led's in each bulb the brighter it will be. When I bought mine I took apart everything to see what type of bulb and how many were needed, and then I ordered the correct sizes with the most possible led's in them. I think it turned out well, nice and bright and very easy to see everything.
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02-28-2006, 10:47 PM	#169
ProTouring2.2 Have a nice day! Age: 20 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,801 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Are these the correct bulbs to get for a 98 w/o tach? 3 T1.5 Instrument LED bulb (3)$1.79 Blue 5 WLED 5-LED Wide Angle LED bulb (5)$ 2.79 Blue $24.84 total Last edited by ProTouring2.2 : 02-28-2006 at 10:49 PM.
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03-01-2006, 12:24 AM	#170
digital_xtreme Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,238 Location: Lapeer / Midland, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! I believe you will need 6 of the wide angle LED's... i just started replacing mine last night... and noticed a few things. When you pull out the metal clips that hold the original bulbs in the socket, you have to keep those clips for when you put the led's in. Also you have to bend the LED wires to the side so that when you push them into the sockets with the metal clips in place they touch the metal clips to get power after being installed again. And be careful taking the metal clips and original bulbs out of those sockets... the bulbs break easy, at least the bottoms do and they are sharp as hell along with the metal clips that hold them in. I'm going to plug my gauges in and make sure it works right. Oh yeah and i busted one of my LED's wires when i was moving it to the side so i'm down 1 LED for my gauge cluster.... oh well lol.
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03-12-2006, 05:00 AM	#171
jwood562 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 565 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! did anyone order bulbs for their headlight switch on 98+. i dont really want to g o rip mine out before i order them. so post up bulbs for the headlight switch
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03-12-2006, 12:45 PM	#172
winkyhead The Master Of Disaster Age: 25 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,144 Location: Knoxville,TN User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! just curious, I've been thinkin about doin this for a while now, but today I just thought about the fact I've painted my interior bulbs before and just started thinkin to myself, is there anything wrong with painting the gauge bulbs? Anyone see somethin wrong with that?
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03-13-2006, 10:34 PM	#173
ProTouring2.2 Have a nice day! Age: 20 Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,801 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by winkyhead just curious, I've been thinkin about doin this for a while now, but today I just thought about the fact I've painted my interior bulbs before and just started thinkin to myself, is there anything wrong with painting the gauge bulbs? Anyone see somethin wrong with that? they might fade...i've heard some people having their blue fade to like an aqua color...
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03-13-2006, 11:57 PM	#174
nbosma 92 sonoma 4x4 Age: 21 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7 Location: kalamazoo,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! i have a 92 sonoma 4x4 auto what bulbs do i use i want to do the havc and the cluster any differences between 1st gen and 2 gen?
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03-13-2006, 11:57 PM	#175
nbosma 92 sonoma 4x4 Age: 21 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 7 Location: kalamazoo,MI User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! and can i do my lights on my rear veiw mirror? thank alot Last edited by nbosma : 03-13-2006 at 11:59 PM.
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03-15-2006, 09:52 PM	#176
winkyhead The Master Of Disaster Age: 25 Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,144 Location: Knoxville,TN User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Quote: Originally Posted by greenflameS10 they might fade...i've heard some people having their blue fade to like an aqua color... LOL I got done painting them today and they actually match closer to the PRND321 and odometer then coming out blue. Oh well. Guess I'll get LEDs eventually. And some new needles..... but at least I got the brushed aluminum gauge cover in there. All it took was a nice gash at the top of my thumb with a utility knife!! arg!!! oh well it looks good though. be better when I get leds and new needles anyone know if these needles would work in our trucks gauges? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-U...QQcmdZViewItem
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03-15-2006, 10:14 PM	#177
00xtreme85 Static, what? Age: 23 Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,214 Location: DC User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! ok, i'm sorry for not reading the whole thread so i hope this wasn't answered already, but after the LEDs are installed, will the dimmer function still work? or is it just an on/off type thing?
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03-16-2006, 02:25 AM	#178
lows10blazer psst psst member Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,664 Location: the bay area User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! i put the single led ones in and its a on off thing
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03-20-2006, 10:52 AM	#179
DevilDriver Inspired Soundwave Age: 22 Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 12,253 Location: Regina, Saskatchewan User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! added to how to section: http://www.s10forum.com/how_to_conve...ghts_to_ leds
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03-25-2006, 03:33 PM	#180
Cosmic Charlie How do you do? Age: 34 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 15 Location: Lilburn, GA User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! I have a '91 S10. Are the instructions similar to these? Does anyone know?
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04-01-2006, 11:22 PM	#181
Rondog In The Dog House Age: 46 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 415 Location: Houston, TX User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! Got mine installed today!
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04-03-2006, 07:45 PM	#182
framelayin ^^soon to be^^ Age: 25 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 45 Location: Atlanta User is: OffLine	Re: Convert Your Cluster & Control lights to LED's How-to! That is sick lookin!!