98 2wd-->98 4wd

tommyramone55 · 04-21-2009, 11:36 AM

hey there i was just wondering how hard it would be to convert my 2wd 98 sonoma to a 4wd 98 sonoma haha

just wanted to get an idea...

thanks guys

90blueS10 · 04-21-2009, 11:39 AM

well.. if you want to go the SFA route.. start reading up in the solid axle section...

if you want to go IFS.. then you have to either cut your frame in half and swap in the independent front.. or switch frames to a 4x4 frame.

***Donahue*** · 04-22-2009, 01:04 AM

it would be easier by far to just swap in a solid axle than try and get the stock IFS to work.

wrekd · 04-22-2009, 01:50 AM

If you cant do the SAS, just swap your body onto a 4x4 frame. That would be the easiest way.

bubbagt57 · 04-22-2009, 12:07 PM

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banderillero90 · 04-22-2009, 01:07 PM

How about all-wheel drive like the syclones and typhoons? would the front need a limited slip?

95BlazerLT4wd · 04-22-2009, 10:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10

well.. if you want to go the SFA route.. start reading up in the solid axle section...

if you want to go IFS.. then you have to either cut your frame in half and swap in the independent front.. or switch frames to a 4x4 frame.

you wouldnt need to cut your frame in half. who the fvck taught you that?

DieselS10 · 04-22-2009, 11:35 PM

Like already mentioned, if your wanting a solid axle go for it, if your wanting IFS sell your truck and buy a 4wd, GM already did it for ya.

90blueS10 · 04-22-2009, 11:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 95BlazerLT4wd

you wouldnt need to cut your frame in half. who the fvck taught you that?

why wouldnt you?

Merritt · 04-23-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10

why wouldnt you?

Just switch the IFS parts over from the 4x4 to the 2x4, then the trans/transfer case/driveshaft.

***Donahue*** · 04-23-2009, 05:47 PM

the frame is completely different on the 2wd verse the 4wd. i'm with 90blueS10, you would basically need the front half of a 4wd frame to swap over the 4wd suspension. nothing is the same between the two, not the control arms, not the mount for the differential (which the 2wd doesnt even have a provision for), nothing.

95BlazerLT4wd · 04-23-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

the frame is completely different on the 2wd verse the 4wd. i'm with 90blueS10, you would basically need the front half of a 4wd frame to swap over the 4wd suspension. nothing is the same between the two, not the control arms, not the mount for the differential (which the 2wd doesnt even have a provision for), nothing.

if you wanted to do it that bad you could do it, by no means do you absolutely have to cut the frame in half, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.

DieselS10 · 04-23-2009, 11:10 PM

It wouldn't be any different than sub-framing an old car. I've done it many times and if you spend a little time doing it, it can be very hard to detect were it was done, but the only thing that I would be doing with 4wd S10 IFS is removing it.

Merritt · 04-26-2009, 11:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10

It wouldn't be any different than sub-framing an old car. I've done it many times and if you spend a little time doing it, it can be very hard to detect were it was done, but the only thing that I would be doing with 4wd S10 IFS is removing it.

Yeah, I'm still IFS, but if I was making a 2wd into a 4wd, especially if I had any urge to go wheeling, then I think IFS would be the last thing on my mind.

tommyramone55 · 06-30-2009, 11:50 PM

was lookin at a sas kit with a dana 30 up front but then for a trans?

tommyramone55 · 08-28-2009, 01:16 AM

think im gonna do a sas but im just wondering about the trans if i end up using a dana 30 up front....

where could i find a trans to make it 4x4? for the 2.2...

992drjimmy · 08-28-2009, 11:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tommyramone55

think im gonna do a sas but im just wondering about the trans if i end up using a dana 30 up front....

where could i find a trans to make it 4x4? for the 2.2...

What about swapping your body and engine with all electronics to a SFA frame. Ive been thinking of this for a while. But i reallydont know what frame would be a good choice with nearly correct width axles. I most certainly dont want full width, like a K10 or something.

BillaksBlazer · 08-28-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

What about swapping your body and engine with all electronics to a SFA frame. Ive been thinking of this for a while. But i reallydont know what frame would be a good choice with nearly correct width axles. I most certainly dont want full width, like a K10 or something.

it would be easir to do a sfa swap on your current frame. Its really not that hard to do.

992drjimmy · 08-28-2009, 01:46 PM

alot of people say how easy the sas is. But ive never been able to find anyone to help. My welding and fab skills are not good enough to do it.

04-21-2009, 11:36 AM	#1
tommyramone55 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 405 Location: User is: OffLine	98 2wd-->98 4wd hey there i was just wondering how hard it would be to convert my 2wd 98 sonoma to a 4wd 98 sonoma haha just wanted to get an idea... thanks guys
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04-21-2009, 11:39 AM	#2
90blueS10 Calico 1st Gen Age: 17 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,101 Location: Ottawa, Kansas User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd well.. if you want to go the SFA route.. start reading up in the solid axle section... if you want to go IFS.. then you have to either cut your frame in half and swap in the independent front.. or switch frames to a 4x4 frame.
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04-22-2009, 01:04 AM	#3
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,882 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd it would be easier by far to just swap in a solid axle than try and get the stock IFS to work.
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04-22-2009, 01:50 AM	#4
wrekd Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,251 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd If you cant do the SAS, just swap your body onto a 4x4 frame. That would be the easiest way.
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04-22-2009, 12:07 PM	#5
bubbagt57 GOT A NEW S10 WOO Age: 19 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,543 Location: burtonsville, maryland User is: Online	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd /thread
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04-22-2009, 01:07 PM	#6
banderillero90 Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 25 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd How about all-wheel drive like the syclones and typhoons? would the front need a limited slip?
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04-22-2009, 10:07 PM	#7
95BlazerLT4wd Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 616 Location: Dirty Jerzz User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10 well.. if you want to go the SFA route.. start reading up in the solid axle section... if you want to go IFS.. then you have to either cut your frame in half and swap in the independent front.. or switch frames to a 4x4 frame. you wouldnt need to cut your frame in half. who the fvck taught you that?
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04-22-2009, 11:35 PM	#8
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 36 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,621 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Like already mentioned, if your wanting a solid axle go for it, if your wanting IFS sell your truck and buy a 4wd, GM already did it for ya.
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04-22-2009, 11:37 PM	#9
90blueS10 Calico 1st Gen Age: 17 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 4,101 Location: Ottawa, Kansas User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by 95BlazerLT4wd you wouldnt need to cut your frame in half. who the fvck taught you that? why wouldnt you?
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04-23-2009, 01:47 AM	#10
Merritt Registered Abuser Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,811 Location: King, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by 90blueS10 why wouldnt you? Just switch the IFS parts over from the 4x4 to the 2x4, then the trans/transfer case/driveshaft.
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04-23-2009, 05:47 PM	#11
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,882 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd the frame is completely different on the 2wd verse the 4wd. i'm with 90blueS10, you would basically need the front half of a 4wd frame to swap over the 4wd suspension. nothing is the same between the two, not the control arms, not the mount for the differential (which the 2wd doesnt even have a provision for), nothing.
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04-23-2009, 09:36 PM	#12
95BlazerLT4wd Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 616 Location: Dirty Jerzz User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue the frame is completely different on the 2wd verse the 4wd. i'm with 90blueS10, you would basically need the front half of a 4wd frame to swap over the 4wd suspension. nothing is the same between the two, not the control arms, not the mount for the differential (which the 2wd doesnt even have a provision for), nothing. if you wanted to do it that bad you could do it, by no means do you absolutely have to cut the frame in half, thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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04-23-2009, 11:10 PM	#13
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 36 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,621 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd It wouldn't be any different than sub-framing an old car. I've done it many times and if you spend a little time doing it, it can be very hard to detect were it was done, but the only thing that I would be doing with 4wd S10 IFS is removing it.
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04-26-2009, 11:43 PM	#14
Merritt Registered Abuser Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 8,811 Location: King, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10 It wouldn't be any different than sub-framing an old car. I've done it many times and if you spend a little time doing it, it can be very hard to detect were it was done, but the only thing that I would be doing with 4wd S10 IFS is removing it. Yeah, I'm still IFS, but if I was making a 2wd into a 4wd, especially if I had any urge to go wheeling, then I think IFS would be the last thing on my mind.
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06-30-2009, 11:50 PM	#15
tommyramone55 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 405 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd was lookin at a sas kit with a dana 30 up front but then for a trans?
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08-28-2009, 01:16 AM	#16
tommyramone55 Registered User Age: 18 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 405 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd think im gonna do a sas but im just wondering about the trans if i end up using a dana 30 up front.... where could i find a trans to make it 4x4? for the 2.2...
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08-28-2009, 11:09 AM	#17
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,247 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by tommyramone55 think im gonna do a sas but im just wondering about the trans if i end up using a dana 30 up front.... where could i find a trans to make it 4x4? for the 2.2... What about swapping your body and engine with all electronics to a SFA frame. Ive been thinking of this for a while. But i reallydont know what frame would be a good choice with nearly correct width axles. I most certainly dont want full width, like a K10 or something.
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08-28-2009, 01:27 PM	#18
BillaksBlazer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 839 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy What about swapping your body and engine with all electronics to a SFA frame. Ive been thinking of this for a while. But i reallydont know what frame would be a good choice with nearly correct width axles. I most certainly dont want full width, like a K10 or something. it would be easir to do a sfa swap on your current frame. Its really not that hard to do.
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08-28-2009, 01:46 PM	#19
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,247 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 98 2wd-->98 4wd alot of people say how easy the sas is. But ive never been able to find anyone to help. My welding and fab skills are not good enough to do it.
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