Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series

contact420 · 10-19-2009, 03:12 AM

I have a 96 4x4 Sonoma im building a lift kit for, but the thing is im building it on another frame and swaping it over so I can continue to use the truck. I have a frame from a 97 Blazer the front half of the 4x4 S-series are all the same, dont matter if its a blazer or s10. I'm using the frame for mock-up but after wards I am hopeing I can us it on any of my trucks. I have 2 Blazers and an S10. The axle I'm using is a HPD30 from a 98 cherokee w/o ABS and w/o VAC disconnect, I know its not the strongest but niether is the s10 rear axle. I'm mainly doing the swap to lift it alot cheaper then the IFS 6" lift @ $1600-2200 and make if more functional. The stock IFS differential cant get an air-locker or an e-locker, but anything can be done to a Jeep axle.

I'm trying to make my brackets easy to locat on the frame and install maybe bolt on not sure. Also not sure if i'm building Raduis arms or a 4-link. If I do radius arms then I'll model them after the Rustys long arm kit. I might do a 3-link and if I do I'll model the brackets after the Genright front 3-link kit for the Jeeps. The tie rod has 5/8 rod ends, rated @ 19,600lbs if it breaks I will build it stronger. Drag link most likely pass side tie rod arm with mis-alignment spacers. From what I read I can use a stock ZJ pitman arm. The rest is in the air right now.

Not sure what springs or even 3-link or radius arms, so I need some input.

96superflow · 10-19-2009, 08:12 AM

the only thing i can think of different on the frames is from the i believe 1gen to 2nd gen, the body mounts are in different locations.

Is that first pic yours? if so i like the setup, and you should start building them to sell if you get them worked out!!!

The steering, depending upon how far you move the axle foreward, may have to be used in conjunction with an astro van box and as for the springs, i would think you could use ones from a xj cherokee that had the inline 6, should be about the same weight as the the front ends of the s10s. Or if its got a v8, then the zj grand cherokee might be able to be used.

Ill deff keep an eye on this, i was considering doing a radius arm coil setup on the next s10 i have, but if you start making a kit and selling it, i might purchase it from you!

contact420 · 10-19-2009, 02:14 PM

Sorry to say but I wish the radius arms were mine but that pic is from Rusty's offroad of their cherokee 6" radius arms. I would use that kit but at a $270 for the lower arms, $190 for the upper arms or about $800 for the XJ long arms kit its just too much for me to spend on something I want to build anyways. I don't need the whole kit just the arms.
The other picture is of the Genright 3-link frame brackets. I am going to model my brackets after those if I do a 4-link.

If I make mine similar to these, where the upper and lower links are within inches of the other, then I might get more flex then raduis arms. After all when in a jeep the genright front 3-link kit will give 14-16" of travel, and I dont think the pinion angle would change as it flexes.

More pics of the Genright front 3-link.

Not sure what I'm going to use, need more parts. Before I buy the parts I want to decide what arms i'm going to use radius arms of 4-link.

I have put an axle brace similar to rustys D30 axle truss and continued it on the other side of the right upper link mount as well. I also drilled out the upper bushing bolt holes to 1/2 inch, don't want to use anythin smaller then 1/2 inch.
[IMG]file://armor/Truck%20Pics/S10%20Axle%20Swap/Build%20Pics/Axle%20Mods/Axle%20Brace-small%20view.JPG[/IMG]

If I make it a 4-link I might replace the upper bushing with Currie's Johnny Joint, bushing upgrade.

I already welded on the axle truss so im not going to replace the mount on the right side with this piece, its part of the kit. I can buy just the johnny joint, thats above. Instead of the kit which has both pieces.

These are possible upgrades if it doesnt flex enough for me. Since radius arms wont allow any flex at the axle then I will only use these if I do the 4-link.

None the less i have alot to decide before I make any link arms.

96superflow · 10-19-2009, 03:41 PM

ah gotcha. That setup would be awesome and allow tons of flex!!!!

contact420 · 10-19-2009, 07:22 PM

the 4-link idea seems good and nice to know someone esle agrees. I think the 4-link is the route I'm going. Considering evreything I typed above sounds good, now I need to buy everything. Ballistic joints at the frame and 2x2 sq link arms. My control arm will have threaded fittings on both end for the ultimate in adjustability. Using stock brackets on the axle so If It break I can get another one without modifing it too much.
Its gonna be expensive but not more then a $2000 6"IFS lift.

DieselS10 · 10-20-2009, 01:15 AM

The 4-link is worth the extra effort.

Tim99Zr2 · 10-20-2009, 02:24 AM

werd, will be more work, but worth it in the run, my buddies xj had a 3 link.

leafs are just simple to do, then again, mine flexed really well.

DieselS10 · 10-20-2009, 12:21 PM

There is nothing wrong with a leaf spring setup and the right one will do everything better than a good-marginal link set-up will do.

IMO a near perfectly executed link setup will out perform a good leaf setup for a few reasons. #1 you can completely eliminate bumpsteer, they "can" offer better flex if your design doesn't bind, and they "can" offer a better ride if the right springs are used.

There is just very little room for error with a link design if you want it to drive, handle, and flex better than a well choosen leaf design.

Read, measure, read, measure and read some more!

contact420 · 10-20-2009, 12:58 PM

Thanks Diesel I'm going to try to build my 3 or 4 link for the front. To me it seems easier then leaf springs even though I have almost everything to do a leaf setup. As for springs i'm considering Rusty's 3" HD coils for the XJ. What do you think of the Genright frame brackets? they have the Upper and lower bolt holes within inches to make the 4-link act more like a radius arm. they will pivot at the roughtly the same spot. Point is it looks like those brackets wont throw off the pinion angle.

DieselS10 · 10-20-2009, 01:12 PM

They look great, I just prefer to build everything myself so it is specifically for my application instead of having to make their part "work" with what I'm doing.

You may want to check out Melon's build, he retrofitted a complete 4-link assembly from a Heep I believe and it turned out very nice.

I also just put some info on this:http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f221/4-link-bar-lenths-418586/ thread you might want to read. I'm not trying to sound all knowing about link setups, but I have a basic understanding for them.

contact420 · 10-22-2009, 10:42 PM

I'v been a little busy the last couple of days. changine a leaf spring on a dugango the looped end that hold the bushing broke right in half and out came the bushing. haha. dodge???

anyways.

I decided where on the frame i'm going to locate my link brackets, right where the trans member is, and began to build the drivers side link mount.
it will have the lower link and the upper mount on it. I'm trying to build it similar to the genright bracket they way their rod end are just inched apart.
I have the tabs mounted to fit the frame and the lower link. A couple of pictures of the driver frame brackets are attached. Take a look, so far I think it look pretty good.

Tim99Zr2 · 10-22-2009, 11:15 PM

off to a good start, personally i would of went a little heavier. that 3/16"?

contact420 · 10-22-2009, 11:20 PM

you like what I got started for a bracket???

DieselS10 · 10-22-2009, 11:54 PM

Looks good so far. I assume that your going to go with a 3-link?

contact420 · 10-23-2009, 12:01 AM

3 or 4 link one of those might do a 4 link since i only have factory brackets on the axle. They can't be that strong. The poly bushing in the pic is just a spacer to help build the bracket. when its done I will have ballistic joints most likely 2-5/8" wide

DieselS10 · 10-23-2009, 12:08 AM

Be carefull running an equal/near equal length 4-link with a non parallel setup. With the upper and lower links spaced apart at the axle and that near each other at the frame you are asking for some serious binding with a 4-link. A 3-link like that should be fine though.

Tim99Zr2 · 10-23-2009, 02:16 AM

my buddy never had trouble with the factory mounts. he used the drivers side top mount

96superflow · 10-23-2009, 08:12 AM

tim, so with his mounting setup, it was the factory mount on the pumpkin on the driver side, then the 2 factory links on the passenger side and a track bar? making it a 3 link with a track bar?

Tim99Zr2 · 10-23-2009, 03:16 PM

no, he used the two lowers, the 3rd link was the upper arm on the pumpkin, then he had his trac bar (didnt use the upper on the pass. side)

thats the only thing i dont like about coil sset ups, as it droops, the trac bar pulls the axle to a side

96superflow · 10-23-2009, 03:20 PM

Ah. Id like to see some pics of his setup. Any way you can get some?

Tim99Zr2 · 10-23-2009, 03:21 PM

the jeep is long gone.. let me see if i have any pics to show the set up

Tim99Zr2 · 10-23-2009, 03:24 PM

does this work?
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876554

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876489

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876524

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i miss these days

96superflow · 10-23-2009, 03:37 PM

yeah man, that really does it. Im not big on cherokees but that one is nice. Too bad. You should get another solid axle project and come down to NC and wheel if i finish mine up and find some more places.

Tim99Zr2 · 10-23-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow

yeah man, that really does it. Im not big on cherokees but that one is nice. Too bad. You should get another solid axle project and come down to NC and wheel if i finish mine up and find some more places.

yea, that cherokee was built, had everything but gears (i think) 33s roughly 8" lift

i coulda scoop up my buddies SAS s10 for prob 700-800 bucks, the other s10 project i have on here.

those are about the best pics i can get. last i knew that jeep was like an hour away, but i think it already got sold again

96superflow · 10-23-2009, 03:56 PM

well if ya get down to hampton, let me know. Im about 45 mins away. Grab another one to solid axle or something to wheel in. Im game!

contact420 · 10-25-2009, 03:40 AM

Well this sucks. cuttin the bolt off the leaf spring today I Broke my last sawzall. that gonna hoold me up a couple more week. Might just buy a cheap jig saw, I think it would work for a little while.

I'm fixing my uncles truck. it needs that new leaf, but it only need one new bushing. Autozone has it in their system but where can i get just one new leaf spring bushing for the durango leaf. it's 2.5" wide. that poly bushing i have looks like it will fit if I had the old bushing out of the new leaf. Bolts rusted into the leaf spring bushing, its in there. Gonne have that one pressed out But still need just one new bushing, fron where??? sorry no pics didnt take any

Camarokid · 10-26-2009, 01:16 AM

your shittin me, a blazer and a s10 have the exact same frame,

i bought a 2001 jimmy for the front clip but the motor and drive train has a 100,000 less km's than my truck, so i could just swap the bodies? thats nuts lol, new winter project

contact420 · 10-26-2009, 02:50 AM

the front half is the same but the rear section is different. Not much different, But a few differences. I have a PDF of the design of the S-series to the milimeter. I should find somewhere to upload it to. this fPDF shows everything about the way these are made and there are about 5 different frame designs depending on wheelbase and 2WD or 4WD.

contact420 · 10-29-2009, 11:48 PM

I have the other side lower bracket built. Needs a little bracing before its finished. Give you the pics when their finished. In a couple of days. Then I need the rest of the control arms pieces. Gonna take a little longer.Only built the lower mount so far cause I haven't made up my mind yet between radius or 3-link. If I do radius setup then I have my mounts, 3-link and I'll add the upper mount onto one of these brackets.
I'm leaning towards the radius arms. I'm finding alot of lift kits that use the same radius arms as setup as I'm planning. Since so many companies are using that design then I'm sure it will do what little off-road driving I will be doing after I make a set.
Brackets might be close to being finished, but the arms will be a while.

96superflow · 10-30-2009, 08:13 AM

yeah man. Take some pics of you doing it too. I wanna see dimensions and location on the frame rail you you figure it out too. Make it a DIY easy sas.

JollyGreenMini · 10-30-2009, 10:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

i coulda scoop up my buddies SAS s10 for prob 700-800 bucks, the other s10 project i have on here.

Yeah, you should... We are starting on the Jimmy real soon (for sure this time) and i'm gonna need someone to wheel with

contact420 · 10-30-2009, 05:26 PM

ya I can take a few pics of the mounts. Measuring off the front cab mount, body mount behind the front tire, the 4" bracket is 9" back, from the body mount behind the front tire, and the side of the bracket stops 13" from the body mount. Their getting welded where the transmission crossmember bolt onto the frame so I will be building a new member. I' will get the pics uploaded soon.

On the other hand today some female in a trailblazer cut me off today just to be first at the light. I got next to her and yelled at her. she said I should try going the speed limit but she was speeding past my then started getting into my lane, didnt have no room. I slammed on the horn and she got back into her lane. she preed up a little more then cut in, only 2 feet infront of my truck. she immediatly slammed on her brakes and I did the same almost slid into her cause mine locked up. If I would have hit her SUV would it have been my fault??? Consider she cut infront of me and left about 2 feet of a gap, There was no room. Who's fault if I would have hit her.

She called the cops on me. Said I hit her bumper, yelled at her then drive off. When the cop heard my side he decided to close the case. This cu*t didn't tell him that she was speeding when she cut me off and was also yaping on the phone when she cut me off. ya, I yelled at her, but she cut me off while talking on the phone and she called the cops on me. She should have gotten a ticket for obstruction since she lied to the officer. She told the cop I hit her bumper, yelled at her and sped off. That dumb B*T*H must think she cat do what ever she wants like the world owes her something. When i was yelling at her I told her "She cuts me off again I'll ram my bumper up her a**. It's made out of 1/4" steel and homemade. her trailblazer would be in a world of hurt.

contact420 · 11-02-2009, 03:16 PM

I was able to get more work on my s10 frame. I am building everything to fit on the frame and swap it over to my truck when its finished, but I am probobly going to build the kit onto the frame and then build another kit for my truck. I'll build everything on the frame to make sure it works. Then for the link mounts, I will have the plates to make the bracket laser cut with slots and tabs for a better fit.

Pics of the Lower link mounts: Front view(upper), Rear View(lower)

They need a little more welding on the inside, but other then that almost finished. since their almost done I placed them on the frame and measured 10 3/8" from link bolt hole to body mount bracket on both sides or 9" from the body mount and the front edge of the mount.

Alot of people say cut out the front crossmember and weld in a new one, but I trimmed the front crossmember for more clearance for the drag link.

I hoping that I can get away without cutting the whole thing out.

When I got this blazer that I had scrapped it needed a new front clip from rear ending another car. The bumper brackets were bent and the frame rail was bend at the bottom, from the tow hooks getting bent down. I'm going to cut off the bracket and fix the bottom of the rail. I made a tow hitch that bolts on using the tow hook bolt holes and the skid plate bolt holes, 4 bolts on each side. I might use that tow hitch or just make a new hitch for the frame.

I am doing all of this work on the frame to make a lift kit for my truck, but watch. I am going to end up with a lift kit to put on my truck but also build this frame up using the engine from this blazer I scraped.

BET I'm going to lift my truck and build a Truggie,

!!!!!!

Does anyone know exactly where to tap these S10 steering boxes for hydraulic assist steering??? Instead of a steering stabilizer I want to use hydraulic assist.

DieselS10 · 11-02-2009, 08:00 PM

Lookin good man.

I did the same thing to my front crossmember. I didn't see any reason to move/remove it. I like the tire centered in the fender like it's supposed to be also and with a link style front suspension you don't have the tire to cab interference that you usually see with the rear shackle mounted leaf setups because as the suspension compresses it pushes the tire forward instead of backwards into the cab.

contact420 · 11-19-2009, 01:59 PM

well I ordered the 3/4" rod ends and spacers to make the lower links. just need some tap tubing for it. This guy I know, who's got an older s10 blazer and competes with it, has some 3/4 ID 1/4" thick DOM I'm gonne use. He gets it from Lefthander chassis in Rockford, IL. I know its not 2" DOM for the links but I'm sure it will do the job.

Wish I could buy it all at once but only so much money to go around, and with a child I'm constantly buying stuff for her. I am managing to get the parts little at a time. It might take me a year but thats why I have the front half of that blazer frame. Modify that and 1 year later, hopefully sooner when its on its own weight I'll put it all on my truck. after the truck is done I can continue builting the frame into a Buggy with 1-ton axles. I have already started to extend the frome frame rails after the radiator support, about 12", for a winch and hitch as well as a HD bumper.

When its done I'm gonna have a blast.

10-19-2009, 08:12 AM	#2
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series the only thing i can think of different on the frames is from the i believe 1gen to 2nd gen, the body mounts are in different locations. Is that first pic yours? if so i like the setup, and you should start building them to sell if you get them worked out!!! The steering, depending upon how far you move the axle foreward, may have to be used in conjunction with an astro van box and as for the springs, i would think you could use ones from a xj cherokee that had the inline 6, should be about the same weight as the the front ends of the s10s. Or if its got a v8, then the zj grand cherokee might be able to be used. Ill deff keep an eye on this, i was considering doing a radius arm coil setup on the next s10 i have, but if you start making a kit and selling it, i might purchase it from you!
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10-19-2009, 02:14 PM	#3
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Sorry to say but I wish the radius arms were mine but that pic is from Rusty's offroad of their cherokee 6" radius arms. I would use that kit but at a $270 for the lower arms, $190 for the upper arms or about $800 for the XJ long arms kit its just too much for me to spend on something I want to build anyways. I don't need the whole kit just the arms. The other picture is of the Genright 3-link frame brackets. I am going to model my brackets after those if I do a 4-link. If I make mine similar to these, where the upper and lower links are within inches of the other, then I might get more flex then raduis arms. After all when in a jeep the genright front 3-link kit will give 14-16" of travel, and I dont think the pinion angle would change as it flexes. More pics of the Genright front 3-link. Not sure what I'm going to use, need more parts. Before I buy the parts I want to decide what arms i'm going to use radius arms of 4-link. I have put an axle brace similar to rustys D30 axle truss and continued it on the other side of the right upper link mount as well. I also drilled out the upper bushing bolt holes to 1/2 inch, don't want to use anythin smaller then 1/2 inch. [IMG]file://armor/Truck%20Pics/S10%20Axle%20Swap/Build%20Pics/Axle%20Mods/Axle%20Brace-small%20view.JPG[/IMG] If I make it a 4-link I might replace the upper bushing with Currie's Johnny Joint, bushing upgrade. I already welded on the axle truss so im not going to replace the mount on the right side with this piece, its part of the kit. I can buy just the johnny joint, thats above. Instead of the kit which has both pieces. These are possible upgrades if it doesnt flex enough for me. Since radius arms wont allow any flex at the axle then I will only use these if I do the 4-link. None the less i have alot to decide before I make any link arms.
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10-19-2009, 03:41 PM	#4
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series ah gotcha. That setup would be awesome and allow tons of flex!!!!
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10-20-2009, 01:15 AM	#6
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series The 4-link is worth the extra effort.
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10-20-2009, 02:24 AM	#7
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series werd, will be more work, but worth it in the run, my buddies xj had a 3 link. leafs are just simple to do, then again, mine flexed really well.
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10-20-2009, 12:21 PM	#8
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series There is nothing wrong with a leaf spring setup and the right one will do everything better than a good-marginal link set-up will do. IMO a near perfectly executed link setup will out perform a good leaf setup for a few reasons. #1 you can completely eliminate bumpsteer, they "can" offer better flex if your design doesn't bind, and they "can" offer a better ride if the right springs are used. There is just very little room for error with a link design if you want it to drive, handle, and flex better than a well choosen leaf design. Read, measure, read, measure and read some more!
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10-20-2009, 12:58 PM	#9
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Thanks Diesel I'm going to try to build my 3 or 4 link for the front. To me it seems easier then leaf springs even though I have almost everything to do a leaf setup. As for springs i'm considering Rusty's 3" HD coils for the XJ. What do you think of the Genright frame brackets? they have the Upper and lower bolt holes within inches to make the 4-link act more like a radius arm. they will pivot at the roughtly the same spot. Point is it looks like those brackets wont throw off the pinion angle.
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10-20-2009, 01:12 PM	#10
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series They look great, I just prefer to build everything myself so it is specifically for my application instead of having to make their part "work" with what I'm doing. You may want to check out Melon's build, he retrofitted a complete 4-link assembly from a Heep I believe and it turned out very nice. I also just put some info on this:http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f221/4-link-bar-lenths-418586/ thread you might want to read. I'm not trying to sound all knowing about link setups, but I have a basic understanding for them.
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10-22-2009, 11:15 PM	#12
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series off to a good start, personally i would of went a little heavier. that 3/16"?
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10-22-2009, 11:20 PM	#13
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series you like what I got started for a bracket???
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10-22-2009, 11:54 PM	#14
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Looks good so far. I assume that your going to go with a 3-link?
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10-23-2009, 12:01 AM	#15
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series 3 or 4 link one of those might do a 4 link since i only have factory brackets on the axle. They can't be that strong. The poly bushing in the pic is just a spacer to help build the bracket. when its done I will have ballistic joints most likely 2-5/8" wide
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10-23-2009, 12:08 AM	#16
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Be carefull running an equal/near equal length 4-link with a non parallel setup. With the upper and lower links spaced apart at the axle and that near each other at the frame you are asking for some serious binding with a 4-link. A 3-link like that should be fine though.
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10-23-2009, 02:16 AM	#17
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series my buddy never had trouble with the factory mounts. he used the drivers side top mount
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10-23-2009, 08:12 AM	#18
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series tim, so with his mounting setup, it was the factory mount on the pumpkin on the driver side, then the 2 factory links on the passenger side and a track bar? making it a 3 link with a track bar?
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10-23-2009, 03:16 PM	#19
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series no, he used the two lowers, the 3rd link was the upper arm on the pumpkin, then he had his trac bar (didnt use the upper on the pass. side) thats the only thing i dont like about coil sset ups, as it droops, the trac bar pulls the axle to a side
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10-23-2009, 03:20 PM	#20
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Ah. Id like to see some pics of his setup. Any way you can get some?
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10-23-2009, 03:21 PM	#21
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series the jeep is long gone.. let me see if i have any pics to show the set up
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10-23-2009, 03:24 PM	#22
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series does this work? http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876554 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876489 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876524 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=33876538 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=41552685 i miss these days Last edited by Tim99Zr2 : 10-23-2009 at 03:26 PM.
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10-23-2009, 03:37 PM	#23
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series yeah man, that really does it. Im not big on cherokees but that one is nice. Too bad. You should get another solid axle project and come down to NC and wheel if i finish mine up and find some more places.
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10-23-2009, 03:49 PM	#24
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,536 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow yeah man, that really does it. Im not big on cherokees but that one is nice. Too bad. You should get another solid axle project and come down to NC and wheel if i finish mine up and find some more places. yea, that cherokee was built, had everything but gears (i think) 33s roughly 8" lift i coulda scoop up my buddies SAS s10 for prob 700-800 bucks, the other s10 project i have on here. those are about the best pics i can get. last i knew that jeep was like an hour away, but i think it already got sold again
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10-23-2009, 03:56 PM	#25
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series well if ya get down to hampton, let me know. Im about 45 mins away. Grab another one to solid axle or something to wheel in. Im game!
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10-25-2009, 03:40 AM	#26
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Well this sucks. cuttin the bolt off the leaf spring today I Broke my last sawzall. that gonna hoold me up a couple more week. Might just buy a cheap jig saw, I think it would work for a little while. I'm fixing my uncles truck. it needs that new leaf, but it only need one new bushing. Autozone has it in their system but where can i get just one new leaf spring bushing for the durango leaf. it's 2.5" wide. that poly bushing i have looks like it will fit if I had the old bushing out of the new leaf. Bolts rusted into the leaf spring bushing, its in there. Gonne have that one pressed out But still need just one new bushing, fron where??? sorry no pics didnt take any
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10-26-2009, 01:16 AM	#27
Camarokid No fat chicks =) Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 217 Location: vancouver island, BC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series your shittin me, a blazer and a s10 have the exact same frame, i bought a 2001 jimmy for the front clip but the motor and drive train has a 100,000 less km's than my truck, so i could just swap the bodies? thats nuts lol, new winter project
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10-26-2009, 02:50 AM	#28
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series the front half is the same but the rear section is different. Not much different, But a few differences. I have a PDF of the design of the S-series to the milimeter. I should find somewhere to upload it to. this fPDF shows everything about the way these are made and there are about 5 different frame designs depending on wheelbase and 2WD or 4WD. Last edited by contact420 : 10-26-2009 at 02:54 AM. Reason: added a little.
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10-29-2009, 11:48 PM	#29
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series I have the other side lower bracket built. Needs a little bracing before its finished. Give you the pics when their finished. In a couple of days. Then I need the rest of the control arms pieces. Gonna take a little longer.Only built the lower mount so far cause I haven't made up my mind yet between radius or 3-link. If I do radius setup then I have my mounts, 3-link and I'll add the upper mount onto one of these brackets. I'm leaning towards the radius arms. I'm finding alot of lift kits that use the same radius arms as setup as I'm planning. Since so many companies are using that design then I'm sure it will do what little off-road driving I will be doing after I make a set. Brackets might be close to being finished, but the arms will be a while.
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10-30-2009, 08:13 AM	#30
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series yeah man. Take some pics of you doing it too. I wanna see dimensions and location on the frame rail you you figure it out too. Make it a DIY easy sas.
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10-30-2009, 10:18 AM	#31
JollyGreenMini Still 2 High Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 7,253 Location: Brockway, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 i coulda scoop up my buddies SAS s10 for prob 700-800 bucks, the other s10 project i have on here. Yeah, you should... We are starting on the Jimmy real soon (for sure this time) and i'm gonna need someone to wheel with
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10-30-2009, 05:26 PM	#32
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series ya I can take a few pics of the mounts. Measuring off the front cab mount, body mount behind the front tire, the 4" bracket is 9" back, from the body mount behind the front tire, and the side of the bracket stops 13" from the body mount. Their getting welded where the transmission crossmember bolt onto the frame so I will be building a new member. I' will get the pics uploaded soon. On the other hand today some female in a trailblazer cut me off today just to be first at the light. I got next to her and yelled at her. she said I should try going the speed limit but she was speeding past my then started getting into my lane, didnt have no room. I slammed on the horn and she got back into her lane. she preed up a little more then cut in, only 2 feet infront of my truck. she immediatly slammed on her brakes and I did the same almost slid into her cause mine locked up. If I would have hit her SUV would it have been my fault??? Consider she cut infront of me and left about 2 feet of a gap, There was no room. Who's fault if I would have hit her. She called the cops on me. Said I hit her bumper, yelled at her then drive off. When the cop heard my side he decided to close the case. This cut didn't tell him that she was speeding when she cut me off and was also yaping on the phone when she cut me off. ya, I yelled at her, but she cut me off while talking on the phone and she called the cops on me. She should have gotten a ticket for obstruction since she lied to the officer. She told the cop I hit her bumper, yelled at her and sped off. That dumb BTH must think she cat do what ever she wants like the world owes her something. When i was yelling at her I told her "She cuts me off again I'll ram my bumper up her a*. It's made out of 1/4" steel and homemade. her trailblazer would be in a world of hurt.
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11-02-2009, 03:16 PM	#33
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series I was able to get more work on my s10 frame. I am building everything to fit on the frame and swap it over to my truck when its finished, but I am probobly going to build the kit onto the frame and then build another kit for my truck. I'll build everything on the frame to make sure it works. Then for the link mounts, I will have the plates to make the bracket laser cut with slots and tabs for a better fit. Pics of the Lower link mounts: Front view(upper), Rear View(lower) They need a little more welding on the inside, but other then that almost finished. since their almost done I placed them on the frame and measured 10 3/8" from link bolt hole to body mount bracket on both sides or 9" from the body mount and the front edge of the mount. Alot of people say cut out the front crossmember and weld in a new one, but I trimmed the front crossmember for more clearance for the drag link. I hoping that I can get away without cutting the whole thing out. When I got this blazer that I had scrapped it needed a new front clip from rear ending another car. The bumper brackets were bent and the frame rail was bend at the bottom, from the tow hooks getting bent down. I'm going to cut off the bracket and fix the bottom of the rail. I made a tow hitch that bolts on using the tow hook bolt holes and the skid plate bolt holes, 4 bolts on each side. I might use that tow hitch or just make a new hitch for the frame. I am doing all of this work on the frame to make a lift kit for my truck, but watch. I am going to end up with a lift kit to put on my truck but also build this frame up using the engine from this blazer I scraped. BET I'm going to lift my truck and build a Truggie, !!!!!! Does anyone know exactly where to tap these S10 steering boxes for hydraulic assist steering??? Instead of a steering stabilizer I want to use hydraulic assist.
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11-02-2009, 08:00 PM	#34
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series Lookin good man. I did the same thing to my front crossmember. I didn't see any reason to move/remove it. I like the tire centered in the fender like it's supposed to be also and with a link style front suspension you don't have the tire to cab interference that you usually see with the rear shackle mounted leaf setups because as the suspension compresses it pushes the tire forward instead of backwards into the cab.
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11-19-2009, 01:59 PM	#35
contact420 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 54 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas / Lift Kit for a 95-up, 4wd, S-series well I ordered the 3/4" rod ends and spacers to make the lower links. just need some tap tubing for it. This guy I know, who's got an older s10 blazer and competes with it, has some 3/4 ID 1/4" thick DOM I'm gonne use. He gets it from Lefthander chassis in Rockford, IL. I know its not 2" DOM for the links but I'm sure it will do the job. Wish I could buy it all at once but only so much money to go around, and with a child I'm constantly buying stuff for her. I am managing to get the parts little at a time. It might take me a year but thats why I have the front half of that blazer frame. Modify that and 1 year later, hopefully sooner when its on its own weight I'll put it all on my truck. after the truck is done I can continue builting the frame into a Buggy with 1-ton axles. I have already started to extend the frome frame rails after the radiator support, about 12", for a winch and hitch as well as a HD bumper. When its done I'm gonna have a blast.
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