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Re: Sas Info
If your ok with that amount for one that is what your wanting then go for it.
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Re: Sas Info
Id still try to talk him down to $150. Whats the worse that could happen??
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Re: Sas Info
We'll see, im def gonna try and talk him down. He was checking the rearends yesterday and would probably get back with me today so i will let you all know...
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Well its a no go on that 8.8, only had 3.73s with the limited slip and he wouldn't back off price. So im checking pick and pull out in virginia beach tomorrow, they quoted me 70 bucks which i think is wrong but we will see.... Also sent tom woods an email about getting a flat flange for the out put of my transfer case so i can run a more common drive shaft. We will see if they get back with me. Does anyone know if the diversified creations transfer case output will work on my np233 non auto trac case?
On a better note, my local fab shop got me a couple of pieces bent up out of 1/4 plate and i think i made them 2" x 6" x 12" so that i can attach my rear shackles. And another question, Im thinking into the future about what would be the simplest way to attach my winch. If anyone has ideas, let me know. Eventually, i will get a custom bumper built, but that is going to have to wait a little while... |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Sas Info
mount it on a reciever, weld a reciever tube to your cross member
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#156 |
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Cool thanks Tim!!! I was thinking of going that route to begin with! On another note, i just happened to be making some runs up around where pnp was and stopped by there to see if they had what i wanted, 4.10 8.8,There was one in the whole lot!!! so hopefully it will still be there tomorrow and i will be able to snag it first thing in the morning!!!! Its just an open diff so ill just lock it later!!!
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#157 |
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Re: Sas Info
GOT THE 8.8 TODAY!!! with 4.10s, open diff but idc, ill lock it later. All for $107. It came with a couple of ubolts, no spring plates, and no yoke. But for some reason i remembered reading somewhere that an aerostar van had the same axle with a different style yoke that would work with the stock s10 drive shaft. I dont remember where i read it, but i talked them into giving me one because it should come with the axle. Anyone know where i can get the plates for this as well as ubolts???? Any info on the yokes will be awesome too. Thanks!!!
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#158 |
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Re: Sas Info
the u bolt should be standard 3.25 u bolts. mine were about 9 inches long. Try checking at soem truck parts stores or truck plow stores. 4wd joey should be able to get you some spring plates
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Re: Sas Info
cool thanks steve. Hows your blazer doin anyways???
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its doing good. ill be out with it july 4th weekend. i have a slight wobble when i hit bumps im still trying to figure out but other than that just trying to hook up a front sway bar for the road.
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Re: Sas Info
i sent him a pm, but he never got back to me asking him specifically about it trying to confirm it, but thanks. im gonna try getting it end by the end of the week or the weekend. we will see. Thanks oldskool!
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Talked with Tom Woods Driveshafts and the guy that runs JB conversions today. I was wondering how many other guys have done the yoke swap on the np233 transfer case? I talked to my bro and he said that it wouldn't be too difficult, but i dont know. Can anyone share their experiences? im just looking a little bit ahead so i can get this thing completely budgeted for. Thanks guys, oh and if someone could be a big help and enlighten me on how to take the front driveshaft out?!?!?!?!?
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#164 |
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Re: Sas Info
the output is a simple swap. Take it apart and put it back together. Use new selas if you can. There is no real worry of things poping out, there should be one spring inside if i remember correctly.
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Alright guys i think i got what im going with on the front driveshaft, but today i went and tried to put the s10 ujoint in the aerostar flat flange or whatever its called, and one problem, The s10 ujoints are larger. If someone could help me out here, it would be awesome. Thanks!!!
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#166 |
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Re: Sas Info
the s10 joint is i think what they call a s44 the arowstar probably runs a 1310. go to the parts store and get the conversion joint.
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#167 |
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Hey guys, i need some help real quick. Bubbagt57 has an output for a np231j transfer case. I need to do something with mine i just dont know what. If someone could help me out to know if it will work in my 96 blazer with the np233 that would be awesome. Thanks guys.
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#168 |
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I don't think it will. From everything I've herd the NP231J has a different size chain than the NP231Cs
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Sas Info
it may work.. i had that output shaft in my np233c and np231c. its my old output shaft
![]() some 233s have the smaller / bigger (thicker) chain than the jeep 231s |
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#170 |
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Re: Sas Info
In short, NO. |
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#171 |
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Wrekd, i saw i think in baggey's build thread that you said something about 95-97s have the wider chain? How sure are you??? Just tryin to make sure before i drop 100 bucks to jbconversions and get the right output shaft.
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#172 |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Sas Info
just split your case and measure the chain yourself.. should be 1" thick..
bubba bought that off me, and i had it in two cases. |
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#173 |
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Re: Sas Info
Well cosidering your truck is a 96 and so is mine, Im pretty damn sure...lol AFAIK, 95-97 NP233's had the 1.25" chain, 98 and up had the 1" chain. |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Sas Info
well there is your answer.
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#175 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
I appreciate it man. I should have some pics up of progress tomorrow. I made the dumb mistake of getting too excited today and measured 1 and welded, well my shackle mounts are 1" too wide, so my leaf springs look funny. Ill get them straight tomorrow.....
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#176 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Got the rear shackles relocated. and its sitting on all 4's!!!!! Everything is just heavily tacked, so im going to grab a bit to eat and then go burn it in and brace it. Here are some pics!!!!! Let me know what ya'll think!!!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The mounts are set to 45.5" back. Right now the are basically straight up, so im guessing they will break in after a while. ![]() Last edited by 96superflow : 07-04-2009 at 03:29 PM. |
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local engineer
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Re: Sas Info
so you have any clearence isues running a spring under in the front?
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#178 |
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Age: 25
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Re: Sas Info
Id move the shackle mount forward about 3/4".
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#179 |
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Re: Sas Info
I got the braces and all welded in too, ill get some pics up tomorrow on what i did, got to dark tonight to take any. |
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#181 |
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Age: 21
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Alright i need some input from all the guys running the sky manu kit. I figured out why my shackles in the rear weren't going past straight up, The center brace was put too close to the short side to all the axle to pivot. Has anyone else run into this problem????? I even tried reversing them, and then it won't clear the shackle mount. I need some help on this please.
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#182 |
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Age: 25
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Re: Sas Info
I would just cut the brace out and then weld a piece of flat bar in there. Those braces are too big for those shackles.
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#183 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Now the welds aren't the most beautiful thing in the world, but im certain they are strong as hell!!! Last edited by 96superflow : 07-05-2009 at 02:53 PM. |
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#184 |
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Re: Sas Info
Heres My Shackle Fix.
![]() 1/4" plate welded in the middle of the sky mounts. The welds look better too!!! |
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#185 |
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Re: Sas Info
yea deff move the shackle mount to 45" at least. mine are exactly at 45" and i have a pretty good shackle angle.
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#186 |
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Re: Sas Info
I need to do that to my shackles. right now i just have washers stacked in there. |
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#187 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Well i got her all put back together and set on the ground. Hopefully tomorrow i can get some pads and rotors and hook up the steering to temporaly get it moving around.
Steve, can you get me a good pic of your shackle angle??? Im gonna check your thread after posting this, but i figured i would throw that in if ya didn't mind. |
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#188 |
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here is mine.
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Re: Sas Info
Thanks man. I appreciate it!
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#190 |
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Re: Sas Info
no problem man.
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#191 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Hey guys. I got the steering linkages all hooked up and the brakes on the d30 on. I bleed the hell out of them , but still couldn't get great pedal, but it stops. I will delete the abs modual after i get the 8.8 in, and run new lines, although i haven't fully figured them out yet. I drove her around the block a little bit, not too much, but already know i have to do something about the steering, so probably when my loans from school, ill have some money to work with. Im going to have the shackle angle fixed, get the 8.8 in, shock hoops and shocks all finished before i go back to school. then it will just be a matter of getting some 15" rims for some 33 12.50 all terrain k/os that are being given to me, the rugged ridge steering system, the hi steer arm, front transfer case output, drive shaft, and mount up my winch, and she should be all ready to go. I can't wait to have my Jeep recovery vehicle finished up. Here are some finished up pics!!!!!
![]() This one, i tried to cut the wheel when i backed out, and it wouldn't turn at all. dont know what was up, but i know i have to work on the steering. ![]() |
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looks good man! did you move the steering box foward at all or is it in the stock location.
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#193 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Yeah i moved it foreward 2" like you said, but i don't feel that the pitman arm is at a good angle, ill try and get a pic of what im talking about today, but if i dont, im heading out of town this evening, and will get it up there on sunday when i get back.
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#194 |
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Re: Sas Info
ok. i hope to have my astro box in soon. Ill report how things are as soon as i can.
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Re: Sas Info
alright man. Sounds good. If it works out for you, it might be in my best interest to do it as well.
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#196 |
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Well guys i moved one side of the shackles this evening. hopefully get the other tomorrow. I go on vacation on saturday, so im hoping i can get the 8.8 in before then. Ill keep yall posted!!!
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#197 |
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Today i made a lil bit of progress after me and the other two mechanics at the golf cart shop i work at walked out on the boss. I fixed the other shackle mount to match the 45" and when i set it back down it was leaning. Then i looked and the side i had done yesterday was already starting to settle like it should. So hopefully the other side will do the same. Then i took it out and drove it through a few ditches to flex her a little bit and decided it would be a good idea to do a few burn outs with the 31s and the 10 bolt with 3.73s. Well on my second or third burnout, i heard a bang and then a clap clap clap, and by golly it was time to put the rear up again and find out what it was. Well it ended up being the easiest way i have ever had to cut purches off of an axle. Busted the temp welds i had on there all the way around on both sides. So i started on getting the 8.8 in, and i got the perches welded (a helluva lot stronger this time since its the axle that is staying in her)and should have it in tomorrow hopefully. then just figuring out the brake lines and putting the pads in. Well thought you guys might enjoyed the story a lil. Ill keep ya updated!!! and pics tomorrow!!!
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Age: 21
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Re: Sas Info
Well i made good use of my day today and got the 8.8 in. Didn't clean it up or anything, but its under the truck and its mobile again, Although i had a difficult time trying to bleed the brakes by myself. I drove it around and it seems to be solid. Ill have to get some extended brake lines for both the front and the rear, but that will come in time. Here are some pics of the axle underneath the truck, and some pics of my rear leaf springs that dont look too hot.
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Re: Sas Info
if you can get another s10 pack and cut the eyes off the first leaf and stick it in the pack and it will be all good.
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Re: Sas Info
Thats what i was wondering. Thanks for the idea steve!
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