Sas Info

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 10:08 PM

Cool thanks 4wd Joey. Now i just need to find a set of gears for it.......

***4wdjoey*** · 06-09-2009, 10:27 PM

what ratio do you need?

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 10:28 PM

lol i think we are hopin back and forth on threads, i just checked your vendor thread out and put it over there.

4.10s plz.

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 10:31 PM

Mkae sure its not a 7.625" rear. I dont know exactly what year they started using them, but I know it was around that time. The 7.625 has 28 spline axles and the 7.5 has 26 splines.

The only way you could tell is by pulling out a shaft and counting the splines (I Think).

***4wdjoey*** · 06-09-2009, 10:37 PM

???
i'm not sure about that one...

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 10:40 PM

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 10:47 PM

Did you pull a rear out of a 92 and put it in your 96???

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 10:53 PM

yeah... long story but i have my reason why i did.....

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 11:00 PM

I would check into it before you go buying parts for it. Better to be safe then sorry.

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 11:02 PM

oh yeah, im starting to research it right now....

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 11:05 PM

accuautoparts.com just said it was a 7.6... Anyone else know about these??? Ill be clear too, the axle is out of a 1992 4dr 4wd blazer with 3.73 gears and limited slip. Im trying to find the ring gear size....

***4wdjoey*** · 06-09-2009, 11:06 PM

looks like the ring and pinions are interchangeable. i don't even have any gears for the 7.625. they also share the same master install kit.

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 11:08 PM

Yeah some people call it a 7.6, 7 5/8", 7.625, etc.

Baggey22 · 06-09-2009, 11:09 PM

If you're gonna put money into the rear axle you're better off just buying an 8.8 that already has 4.10. That's what I did, mine has the LS too.
PLUS you can get rear disk brakes, and getting the e-brake to work is REAL easy.

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 11:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 4wdjoey

looks like the ring and pinions are interchangeable. i don't even have any gears for the 7.625. they also share the same master install kit.

Its been a while since i read up on the differences, but I think to run a 7.5 ring gear you have to change the carrier. And that would require getting 26 spline axle shafts to match.

I could be wrong though. Like I said, its been awhile.

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 11:12 PM

I might do that, trouble im having is finding one of those damn things around here........... I deff leaving all of my options open. Once i get up some funds, i will probably hit up the local pnp to see what they have. Where do you find the id tag on the 8.8 for the gears?

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 11:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

If you're gonna put money into the rear axle you're better off just buying an 8.8 that already has 4.10. That's what I did, mine has the LS too.
PLUS you can get rear disk brakes, and getting the e-brake to work is REAL easy.

^^^ Thats what Id do.

Baggey22 · 06-09-2009, 11:13 PM

There's a small tag that SHOULD be held on by one of the diff cover bolts. On that tag it'll tell you the gear ratio AND if it's limited slip or open.

You can see it at the "2:00" bolt

This one you can see the bottom row says "3L55" that means it's got 3.55 gears and limited slip.

96superflow · 06-09-2009, 11:17 PM

Alright, im not going to close off any doors yet. I did check tonight and after all that damn work on the drum brakes, the damn parking brake doesnt work!!! i was kinda worried about swappin in the 8.8 and having trouble hooking up the parking brake.... Its required in NC for inspections.....

Baggey22 · 06-09-2009, 11:24 PM

Read this:
http://forums.s-series.org/viewtopic.php?t=51625

wrekd · 06-09-2009, 11:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

Read this:
http://forums.s-series.org/viewtopic.php?t=51625

Good read

96superflow · 06-10-2009, 08:41 AM

Thanks Baggey, That link was awesome. Now im really considering the 8.8 swap into my blazer. How common are the ones with 4.10s and should i look for the smaller engine with those gears?

BillaksBlazer · 06-10-2009, 08:41 AM

dont worry about the parking brake, mine was super easy to hook up. It was almost a direct install. And for the price of gears you could buy an 8.8.

96superflow · 06-10-2009, 08:46 AM

Yeah that and i dont think the 10bolt could stand up to the abuse my right foot puts it through.

BillaksBlazer · 06-10-2009, 08:52 AM

if its the 28 spline version it probably would. I was bouncing with heavy 33's and a locker and it never gave me any problems. So if you cant find an 8.8 you could keep it.

Baggey22 · 06-10-2009, 09:29 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow

Thanks Baggey, That link was awesome. Now im really considering the 8.8 swap into my blazer. How common are the ones with 4.10s and should i look for the smaller engine with those gears?

Getting one with 4.10 around here is KINDA common. I can think of two in my area last time I checked. It's getting one that is 4.10 and limited slip that can be a little bit of an issue.

***4wdjoey*** · 06-10-2009, 11:31 AM

Update on your 92 S10 Axle:

Between the years, the carriers changed and like Wrekd stated they were identified as 7.5 and 7.625 but the ring gears are the same.

96superflow · 06-10-2009, 10:15 PM

Ah alright. cool. I appreciate the help guys. Im deff looking into the 8.8 swap. Im not worried about if its got limited slip or not cause i would probably just throw an aussie locker in it. Im going to be working a few side jobs with a buddy of mine so that i can come up with some more funds for the project, but that means the work is going to be put on hold, i am deff keeping an eye out for one...

96superflow · 06-14-2009, 09:26 PM

Did a lil bit tonight. Just cleaned up the d30, painted it and mounted the inspection tires and wheels on it. no pics, but it came out damn good.... Might also have found an 8.8. I drove by a local scrap yard and they had a 4 dr newer body type sitting there, i drove by it again, but couldn't tell if it had discs brakes or not. We will find out tomorrow, hopefully before they crush it.......

Baggey22 · 06-14-2009, 09:41 PM

If it's newer than 1996 it'll have disk brakes

96superflow · 06-15-2009, 10:24 PM

Well donno about the axle. They were planning on crushing the car, and the guy still wanted 200 bucks for it, although it had 3.73 gears. I wasn't too worried about it. Real quick thou, how long of shocks should i be looking at running, i gotta get hoops from 4wdjoey in either 12 or 14". Types would be awesome too. Thanks guys.

96superflow · 06-16-2009, 10:17 PM

Did more than whats in the picture tonight, but it got to dark to see.

wrekd · 06-16-2009, 10:52 PM

Lookin good!!

96superflow · 06-17-2009, 10:01 PM

Tore into her a lil more tonight. I only had about an hour to work on it since my dad needed help taping up a car for paint tomorrow morning. But thats basically one side done.

My pile of IFS stuff im saving for the 2 other s10s we have...

HP D30 all cleaned up

Hopefully i can start putting the axle back in sometime this weekend. We shall see. Doing all the work outside so its all weather permitting.....

MTchevyS10 · 06-17-2009, 10:07 PM

Looking good, buddy.
Take your time and get that sucker in there!

nyteRyda · 06-17-2009, 10:16 PM

[Weather Permitting]

I know how that is, its my problem right now as well

wrekd · 06-18-2009, 05:04 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by nyteRyda

[Weather Permitting]

I know how that is, its my problem right now as well

I hear ya. This rain is starting to piss me off already. Cant do shit.

Tim99Zr2 · 06-18-2009, 09:13 AM

yepp! i cant even go to work

out tractor keeps sliding off the gas lines!

supposed to rain all week end i guess tooo.

nyteRyda · 06-18-2009, 12:07 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

yepp! i cant even go to work out tractor keeps sliding off the gas lines!

supposed to rain all week end i guess tooo.

Yeah same here, but we just got a break in the rain, I have my buddy coming down to finish welding up my rear hangars, then its supposed to be sunny the first half the day tomorrow so I should have this f*n thing finished by then...I want it supporting its own weight by tomorrow

96superflow · 06-19-2009, 10:28 PM

Well guys, i finished up riping out all the ifs bull crap tonight. got too dark to take pics, and its def been a slow process but i should have all this weekend to play with it. Hopefully have the axle in by sunday evening. i will be taking pics tomorrow and keeping ya'll updated!!!

96superflow · 06-20-2009, 11:26 AM

Here are some pics of what i finished pulling last night.

Now with the D30 sitting under her.

Hopefully i can have the crossmember burned in by this afternoon. Ill keep ya'll updated!!!

96superflow · 06-20-2009, 08:26 PM

GOT THE CROSSMEMBER BURNED IN!!!!! HELL YEA im excited. I cant wait to finish this thing up. I wont be able to attach the rear just yet cause of the metal place being closed today. But thats alright with me. Now im exhausted and need to rest. Im sure ill have questions soon!!! Here are some pics.

Tim99Zr2 · 06-21-2009, 01:11 AM

awesome man, its lookin good!

96superflow · 06-21-2009, 12:09 PM

Thanks!! Im thinking about running the heep wheels, they actually dont look too bad, but im gonna need to space them out some.....

96superflow · 06-21-2009, 01:35 PM

Heres a few more pics. Got some with my 16 year old (minus 13 years)nephew that will be his Vehicle!!!!!

96superflow · 06-22-2009, 06:52 PM

Hey guys, i need some help. I have found an 8.8 rearend and i believe with 4.10 gears. He wants 200 for it, and i think im willing to pay that much if in fact it has those gears. Any input would be awesome from ya'll. and just so you know, im have a tough as hell time tryin to find one of these complete. Let me know thanks...

bubbagt57 · 06-22-2009, 07:32 PM

what is it out of?

96superflow · 06-22-2009, 08:19 PM

Explorer

BillaksBlazer · 06-22-2009, 08:57 PM

if thats the gears that you want to run id say 150 and if your willing to you could go 200. They go for 125 around me with what ever ratio.

96superflow · 06-22-2009, 09:18 PM

We will find out. The guy called me back and said he had a bunch of them and i told him how to check the ratio, so he will call me back some time. We will see. It seems like they are all going for around 200, so ill see what i can talk him down too.

06-09-2009, 10:08 PM	#101
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Cool thanks 4wd Joey. Now i just need to find a set of gears for it.......
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06-09-2009, 10:27 PM	#102
*4wdjoey* Site Sponsor Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 404 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info what ratio do you need?
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06-09-2009, 10:28 PM	#103
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info lol i think we are hopin back and forth on threads, i just checked your vendor thread out and put it over there. 4.10s plz.
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06-09-2009, 10:31 PM	#104
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Mkae sure its not a 7.625" rear. I dont know exactly what year they started using them, but I know it was around that time. The 7.625 has 28 spline axles and the 7.5 has 26 splines. The only way you could tell is by pulling out a shaft and counting the splines (I Think).
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06-09-2009, 10:37 PM	#105
*4wdjoey* Site Sponsor Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 404 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info ??? i'm not sure about that one...
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06-09-2009, 10:40 PM	#106
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info
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06-09-2009, 10:47 PM	#107
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Did you pull a rear out of a 92 and put it in your 96???
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06-09-2009, 10:53 PM	#108
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info yeah... long story but i have my reason why i did.....
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06-09-2009, 11:00 PM	#109
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info I would check into it before you go buying parts for it. Better to be safe then sorry.
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06-09-2009, 11:02 PM	#110
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info oh yeah, im starting to research it right now....
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06-09-2009, 11:05 PM	#111
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info accuautoparts.com just said it was a 7.6... Anyone else know about these??? Ill be clear too, the axle is out of a 1992 4dr 4wd blazer with 3.73 gears and limited slip. Im trying to find the ring gear size....
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06-09-2009, 11:06 PM	#112
*4wdjoey* Site Sponsor Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 404 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info looks like the ring and pinions are interchangeable. i don't even have any gears for the 7.625. they also share the same master install kit.
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06-09-2009, 11:08 PM	#113
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Yeah some people call it a 7.6, 7 5/8", 7.625, etc.
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06-09-2009, 11:09 PM	#114
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info If you're gonna put money into the rear axle you're better off just buying an 8.8 that already has 4.10. That's what I did, mine has the LS too. PLUS you can get rear disk brakes, and getting the e-brake to work is REAL easy.
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06-09-2009, 11:12 PM	#115
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Quote: Originally Posted by 4wdjoey looks like the ring and pinions are interchangeable. i don't even have any gears for the 7.625. they also share the same master install kit. Its been a while since i read up on the differences, but I think to run a 7.5 ring gear you have to change the carrier. And that would require getting 26 spline axle shafts to match. I could be wrong though. Like I said, its been awhile.
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06-09-2009, 11:12 PM	#116
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info I might do that, trouble im having is finding one of those damn things around here........... I deff leaving all of my options open. Once i get up some funds, i will probably hit up the local pnp to see what they have. Where do you find the id tag on the 8.8 for the gears?
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06-09-2009, 11:13 PM	#117
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 If you're gonna put money into the rear axle you're better off just buying an 8.8 that already has 4.10. That's what I did, mine has the LS too. PLUS you can get rear disk brakes, and getting the e-brake to work is REAL easy. ^^^ Thats what Id do.
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06-09-2009, 11:13 PM	#118
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info There's a small tag that SHOULD be held on by one of the diff cover bolts. On that tag it'll tell you the gear ratio AND if it's limited slip or open. You can see it at the "2:00" bolt This one you can see the bottom row says "3L55" that means it's got 3.55 gears and limited slip. Last edited by Baggey22 : 06-09-2009 at 11:17 PM.
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06-09-2009, 11:17 PM	#119
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Alright, im not going to close off any doors yet. I did check tonight and after all that damn work on the drum brakes, the damn parking brake doesnt work!!! i was kinda worried about swappin in the 8.8 and having trouble hooking up the parking brake.... Its required in NC for inspections.....
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06-09-2009, 11:24 PM	#120
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Read this: http://forums.s-series.org/viewtopic.php?t=51625
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06-09-2009, 11:34 PM	#121
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22 Read this: http://forums.s-series.org/viewtopic.php?t=51625 Good read
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06-10-2009, 08:41 AM	#122
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Thanks Baggey, That link was awesome. Now im really considering the 8.8 swap into my blazer. How common are the ones with 4.10s and should i look for the smaller engine with those gears?
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06-10-2009, 08:41 AM	#123
BillaksBlazer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 572 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info dont worry about the parking brake, mine was super easy to hook up. It was almost a direct install. And for the price of gears you could buy an 8.8.
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06-10-2009, 08:46 AM	#124
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Yeah that and i dont think the 10bolt could stand up to the abuse my right foot puts it through.
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06-10-2009, 08:52 AM	#125
BillaksBlazer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 572 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info if its the 28 spline version it probably would. I was bouncing with heavy 33's and a locker and it never gave me any problems. So if you cant find an 8.8 you could keep it.
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06-10-2009, 09:29 AM	#126
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow Thanks Baggey, That link was awesome. Now im really considering the 8.8 swap into my blazer. How common are the ones with 4.10s and should i look for the smaller engine with those gears? Getting one with 4.10 around here is KINDA common. I can think of two in my area last time I checked. It's getting one that is 4.10 and limited slip that can be a little bit of an issue.
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06-10-2009, 11:31 AM	#127
*4wdjoey* Site Sponsor Age: 26 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 404 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Update on your 92 S10 Axle: Between the years, the carriers changed and like Wrekd stated they were identified as 7.5 and 7.625 but the ring gears are the same.
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06-10-2009, 10:15 PM	#128
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Ah alright. cool. I appreciate the help guys. Im deff looking into the 8.8 swap. Im not worried about if its got limited slip or not cause i would probably just throw an aussie locker in it. Im going to be working a few side jobs with a buddy of mine so that i can come up with some more funds for the project, but that means the work is going to be put on hold, i am deff keeping an eye out for one...
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06-14-2009, 09:26 PM	#129
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Did a lil bit tonight. Just cleaned up the d30, painted it and mounted the inspection tires and wheels on it. no pics, but it came out damn good.... Might also have found an 8.8. I drove by a local scrap yard and they had a 4 dr newer body type sitting there, i drove by it again, but couldn't tell if it had discs brakes or not. We will find out tomorrow, hopefully before they crush it....... Last edited by 96superflow : 06-14-2009 at 09:28 PM.
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06-14-2009, 09:41 PM	#130
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info If it's newer than 1996 it'll have disk brakes
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06-15-2009, 10:24 PM	#131
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Well donno about the axle. They were planning on crushing the car, and the guy still wanted 200 bucks for it, although it had 3.73 gears. I wasn't too worried about it. Real quick thou, how long of shocks should i be looking at running, i gotta get hoops from 4wdjoey in either 12 or 14". Types would be awesome too. Thanks guys.
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06-16-2009, 10:17 PM	#132
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Did more than whats in the picture tonight, but it got to dark to see.
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06-16-2009, 10:52 PM	#133
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Lookin good!!
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06-17-2009, 10:01 PM	#134
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Tore into her a lil more tonight. I only had about an hour to work on it since my dad needed help taping up a car for paint tomorrow morning. But thats basically one side done. My pile of IFS stuff im saving for the 2 other s10s we have... HP D30 all cleaned up Hopefully i can start putting the axle back in sometime this weekend. We shall see. Doing all the work outside so its all weather permitting.....
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06-17-2009, 10:07 PM	#135
MTchevyS10 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 712 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Sas Info Looking good, buddy. Take your time and get that sucker in there!
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