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Old 12-29-2007, 01:19 AM   #51
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Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no

is that front hanger for the rear spring a zr2 specific one, or is that some aftermarket part? as for my comment on the 30* shackle, that is my personal preference. the more vertical the shackle, the more stable it is, but at the cost of (a little) flex. the more you angle it, the better it flexes, but you give up some stability. i would for sure reinforce those shackle mounts too. did you use weld on perches for the rear flip, or the "flip kit"? as for cutting the overload short, but leaving it in the pack, i would do that. the only reason though is to keep that extra 1/2" of lift it gives you. if you take the spring pack apart to put in an aal, be sure to replace the center pin with a new one.

and, the rear pinion angle look fine to me check the angle of the rear output with an angle finder, and then compare it to the pinion angle. at static height your pinion should be tipped down about 3* from what ever the output is at. my rear output slopes down at 5* in my blazer FYI.
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Maybe it was just the picture I looked at. As I said I was eating pancakes at the time so I wasn't 100% paying attention.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
is that front hanger for the rear spring a zr2 specific one, or is that some aftermarket part? as for my comment on the 30* shackle, that is my personal preference. the more vertical the shackle, the more stable it is, but at the cost of (a little) flex. the more you angle it, the better it flexes, but you give up some stability. i would for sure reinforce those shackle mounts too. did you use weld on perches for the rear flip, or the "flip kit"? as for cutting the overload short, but leaving it in the pack, i would do that. the only reason though is to keep that extra 1/2" of lift it gives you. if you take the spring pack apart to put in an aal, be sure to replace the center pin with a new one.

and, the rear pinion angle look fine to me check the angle of the rear output with an angle finder, and then compare it to the pinion angle. at static height your pinion should be tipped down about 3* from what ever the output is at. my rear output slopes down at 5* in my blazer FYI.

when you get parts cheeks...

ok, as for the shackle hanger, i ordered a bushing and i will pick it up weds. this way is just a temp job, by no means staying on there. haha. the shackle mount should be tuff enough for what i do. i cut my old perches off, and re welded them on, (i just seen that flip kit fail on here. not good) i could prob use any spring off a vehicle with a 2" wide pack? or do i need a Z one. and will do on the center pin!

i didnt have any vibrations at all, truck drives really nice, steering is a little loose, i think the pitman arm will help it?

all in all, i feel pretty good about myself for being able to accomplish this in roughly 5 days

thanks guys.
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You can do anything as long as it is the same width. If it's from a different vehicle you may have to drill a new center pin hole but thats not a big deal.
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You can do anything as long as it is the same width. If it's from a different vehicle you may have to drill a new center pin hole but thats not a big deal.

sweet. i hope i can find something to put good arch back in it. what would be a good one to use? any ideas. prob something off a full size?
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More lift per springs and ditch the BL and it'll be major !once again good work Tim.
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More lift per springs and ditch the BL and it'll be major !once again good work Tim.
dads tryin to get me too.. haha. we'll see. its a DD project!
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dads tryin to get me too.. haha. we'll see. its a DD project!
Hell yeah!
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sweet. i hope i can find something to put good arch back in it. what would be a good one to use? any ideas. prob something off a full size?
the springs are 2.5" wide so start there. if the plan is to run a main leaf with the eyes cut off as an aal, i would recommend a 52" chevy main leaf. they will stiffen the pack up some, but not too much. they also have a centered pin. drilling holes in springs sucks, they tend to laugh at most drill bits.
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the springs are 2.5" wide so start there. if the plan is to run a main leaf with the eyes cut off as an aal, i would recommend a 52" chevy main leaf. they will stiffen the pack up some, but not too much. they also have a centered pin. drilling holes in springs sucks, they tend to laugh at most drill bits.
yea, i knew they werent quite 3" but yea.. you get what i meant.

ok. would that leaf come off a old full size front axle, or newer rear? where could i find it?

and thanks for the warning about drilling it out!
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yea, i knew they werent quite 3" but yea.. you get what i meant.

ok. would that leaf come off a old full size front axle, or newer rear? where could i find it?

and thanks for the warning about drilling it out!
your looking for 73-87 pickup (73-91 burb and k5) rear springs. they are mostly found in 1/2t's but are rumored to be in 3/4t's sometimes too. take a tape measure because they can also have 56" springs. they are very similar, but have an offset pin. the 52's have a pin distance of 26" on both sides, the 56's have one side at 26", and the other at 30".
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hmm thank you! your so helpful!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
December 28
Got everythin almost finished, so i took it out driving around. although with no shocks / sway bar makes for a "floating" ride.. god it sucks! and my brakes still need bled out.. oh well! i just had to drive it around! got a few looks.

pics arent very good. ugh ill have to get them tomorrow.
that is so sweet makes me want to go start cuting thing off my blazer and get ti work
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This is why I'm going with full size springs to start with. I've already seen them work nearly perfect in another application.
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Looks good tim. hey i mounted those front tires didnt I??? when are we doing mine??
not before we do mine!
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well i got some pics, but im st my bros house right now, ill upload them when i go home!
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not before we do mine!

ur gonna half to wait in line. besides we half to do ours at the same time to be twins!!!!!
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Twins like Amos and Drmrman?
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but gayer
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so yeah... how bout that damn pitman arm!!!!!!

next time i'm gunna tell ya everythings easy.

by the way... the basement is finished so i'll be good to come down again sometime soon!
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damn pitman arm?
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damn pitman arm?
well i went down to tim's this past thursday and took my pitman arm puller down with me so he could pull his stock one off. and the whole time i kept tellin him how it was gunna be a bitch to get off and how i fought with mine for hours just a few days before. well... his came off in a minute and he put the new one on in minutes. pissed me off cuz mine gave me such trouble!
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What actually holds the pitman arm on?
And did he have to use the tool to get the old one off or just regular tools?
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brandon gave me his pitman arm puller to use, tightened it down and tapped the pitman arm with a hammer and tightened the bolt up as i taped the pitman arm. it was a breeze..

the pitman are is held on by just that one nut and lock washer. I've heard they can be hard to pull off.

i also heard t-bars are a bitch to get out, mine popped right out with a couple taps with a mini sledge hammer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
brandon gave me his pitman arm puller to use, tightened it down and tapped the pitman arm with a hammer and tightened the bolt up as i taped the pitman arm. it was a breeze..

the pitman are is held on by just that one nut and lock washer. I've heard they can be hard to pull off.

i also heard t-bars are a bitch to get out, mine popped right out with a couple taps with a mini sledge hammer
your truck was obviosly ready to just fall apart!

but yeah like tim said... big nut and washer. i used a 1 5/16" socket but it had a lil slop in it so i'm thinkin its metric....30 some odd millimeters
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couple pics.. i need my wheels back!


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33s look tiny now! need 35s
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nah, ill keep the 33's... for now
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plus i'd be a lil worried bout wheelin 35s on that d30! just me though!
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35s would be okay if you didn't have the vacuum disconnect axle shaft
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dont matter, im keepin 33's just spent 800$ on them. haha
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http://www.s10extremist.org/forums/v...=110594#110594

just thought you should know
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eh.. its rinkrat.. i dont care. besides, its not done yet.
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thanks for showin me thou.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
thanks for showin me thou.
yeah, i just dont like when people play games. sometimes its like there are no decent people left...but i am done with it, my involvement has ended.
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haha, i feel my truck is done good. i feel my way is better than cutting into the frame, how he did it.

oh well!
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I love how people are quick to judge,as far as I'm concerned he can stay off this forum.Also as you've already stated you're still working on it,right?guess they didn't see that.Fock it,good job in my book Tim.
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well thanks o2, i never consider anything 'done' my truck is always a work in progress. hell if something breaks, i know to fix it better. live and learn
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wow... what got into that kid. like he has nothing better to do with his life than trash anything and everything on here
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i think he hates the entire s10forum now.. WAY TO GO amos.. haha
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If only he made it like a constructive thing. Like make the title "Check this out" and say this is this 19 y/o's first swap do you guys see any safety hazards? No matter what you will get criticism with an SAS because there are so many ways to do it. Like I pointed out earlier there are things that you need to fix, but you know that and as long as you fix them you'll be fine. Basically keep your truck safe for yourself and those around you.
And speaking of safety I saw something when I was looking over your pictures again. Your rear brake lines need to be redone BADLY. You need flexible lines because as your rear axle flexes so will those metal lines. As the metal lines flex they will most likely stress out and break. Which will render your rear brakes useless.
Just looking out for ya, don't want to see another fellow S10 owner fly into a tree because of something thats pretty easy to fix.
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yea, i also need new front brake lines.. the rubber ones, i got the s10 ones on there still. i just needed to get it done before the new year, so i have it for work, since its my DD. but im outta money. haha
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Just keep an eye on those rear ones.
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i keep checking things over once or twice a day! they should be ok for now, im not wheelin it or running it hard at all!
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so what are you doing for your front wheels? getting adapters or new rims?
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adaptors/ spacers, the front end feels way too narrow
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What was that? I am a member, but it says the topic doesn't exist...
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That's cool as hell, makes me want to do a solid front axle on my first gen so bad.

On another note, if I parked my truck next to yours, my roofline would be below the top of your rear fenderwell
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What was that? I am a member, but it says the topic doesn't exist...
they must have pulled it down. i guess its best not to worry about it.
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That's cool as hell, makes me want to do a solid front axle on my first gen so bad.

On another note, if I parked my truck next to yours, my roofline would be below the top of your rear fenderwell
I have a picture like that with a buddy of mine who is on this site.



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