Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no

wrekd · 05-11-2008, 12:10 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

and will the np231 output shaft accept the jeeps yoke?

It should. Mine did.

wrekd · 05-11-2008, 12:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

kk.. uhh do jeep np231s have a different teeth count than the gm np233?

I dont think so. They both have the same 2.72:1 gear ratio. I could be wrong though.

Did you swap the output shafts already?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-11-2008, 02:50 AM

yea man, they are good. i got to looking and the front seal was messed up. one of the springs in it was rubbing on the bearing in there, causing the "clicking" sound.. (i think)

Tim99Zr2 · 05-11-2008, 01:28 PM

what seal did you use wrekd? on the front output shaft

wrekd · 05-11-2008, 06:04 PM

I got one for a 89 XJ with the np231 t-case. If i was able to find all my receipts i could of given you a part number, but I cant find the damn things no where

Tim99Zr2 · 05-11-2008, 06:07 PM

i got it man, napa hooked me up with one.

but there is an internal problem, its not engaging in 4wd the whole way. im going to have to take it somewhere to get checked out.

BUT i did get to run it a little bit in 4LO and holy hell its a tank

wrekd · 05-11-2008, 06:20 PM

That sucks. Do you have any idea what you might have messed up?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-12-2008, 12:34 AM

i got thinking.. there isnt much inside the tcase to mess up.

what about the 3 vacuum lines on it? would they affect it?

its almost like it wont fully go into 4wd. and when it does, it pops out.
what gives?

wrekd · 05-12-2008, 11:05 AM

Vacuum lines shouldnt have nothing to do with it. Maybe the shifter motor is going bad or something.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-12-2008, 02:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Vacuum lines shouldnt have nothing to do with it. Maybe the shifter motor is going bad or something.

yea, thats another thing i thought of

wrekd · 05-12-2008, 07:04 PM

I would just tear it down again and see if you can find anything wrong in there. Other than that I dont know what to tell ya.

***Donahue*** · 05-12-2008, 08:48 PM

just to catch myself up, tim, are you using a 231 now or just parts from a 231 on your 233? if its a 231, sounds like the linkage could be out of adjustment. the vaccum lines just control the stock actuator, they do nothing to effect the way the t-case works other than seal a hole.

Baggey22 · 05-13-2008, 01:05 AM

Tim you can have my old NP233 for parts if you want, just pay for me to ship it to you.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-13-2008, 03:08 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

just to catch myself up, tim, are you using a 231 now or just parts from a 231 on your 233? if its a 231, sounds like the linkage could be out of adjustment. the vaccum lines just control the stock actuator, they do nothing to effect the way the t-case works other than seal a hole.

no, im using the 233C with the 231J front output shaft on it.

so it may be my electric motor bad then, since it shouldnt be the vacuum?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-13-2008, 03:06 PM

ok, i simply think my electric motor is "out of time" not letting it engage in 4LO the whole way, i tested out just 4HI today, and its holding up fine! and climbing hills with ease

98-LS-lifted · 05-13-2008, 03:38 PM

are you done yet....geez

Tim99Zr2 · 05-13-2008, 03:40 PM

working some bugs out man.. almost. not working on it as hard, since i have nother SAS dime going on. and starting a SAS on a dakota soon (ford 9" d44 out of a bronco) using the bronco suspension on it

Tim99Zr2 · 05-13-2008, 03:44 PM

just some little hills i was climbing, stopping on, then finishing the climb..

testing it out, so far so good.. and i DO need to rework my exhaust, just might go with duals with some quiet mufflers. any suggestions?

wrekd · 05-13-2008, 06:08 PM

so do you have 4 Lo now or just 4hi

***Donahue*** · 05-13-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

just some little hills i was climbing, stopping on, then finishing the climb..

testing it out, so far so good.. and i DO need to rework my exhaust, just might go with duals with some quiet mufflers. any suggestions?

is it just me, or does it look like you are a little saggy in the rear. need some shackles?

mullet9675 · 05-13-2008, 07:43 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

is it just me, or does it look like you are a little saggy in the rear. need some shackles?

your a born salesman

but you do have a saggy ass

crazy91s10 · 05-13-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mullet9675

your a born salesman

but you do have a saggy ass

when did you see donahue's ass

***Donahue*** · 05-13-2008, 08:25 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by crazy91s10

when did you see donahue's ass

Tim99Zr2 · 05-13-2008, 11:11 PM

WTF!!!!! get that pic outta here.. jesus!!

wrekd, i didnt try 4LO today, only 4HI. 4HI works fine.

donahue, i do need some 2" ones. ill PM you my addy for my free set, since we talked so much about your kit! bahaha! (they will be strictly for advertisiment purposes!

wrekd · 05-13-2008, 11:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

thats freakin hilarious

crazy91s10 · 05-14-2008, 12:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

thats freakin hilarious

thats freakin

DieselS10 · 05-15-2008, 12:44 AM

Tim your truck looks awesome....way better than Donahue's ass.

19914x4blazer · 05-15-2008, 01:28 AM

wow were did that come from?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-15-2008, 03:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10

Tim your truck looks awesome....way better than Donahue's ass.

haha, thanks although thats prob not saying alot... its quite the comparison

DieselS10 · 05-15-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 19914x4blazer

wow were did that come from?

Scroll up and you'll figure it out!

1posS10 · 05-15-2008, 01:47 PM

wow, not what i wanted to see....

ChrisInVT · 05-15-2008, 01:51 PM

Nsfw?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-15-2008, 03:37 PM

thats just wrong.. this kid has a refrence pic for EVERYTHING! jeeze.. ewww!!

anyway, baggey, i did something with my vac lock that you might be interested in. ill have to get some pics of it.. its pretty much a manual hub..

haha

***Donahue*** · 05-15-2008, 06:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

thats just wrong.. this kid has a refrence pic for EVERYTHING! jeeze.. ewww!!

anyway, baggey, i did something with my vac lock that you might be interested in. ill have to get some pics of it.. its pretty much a manual hub.. haha

kid? what are you trying to say son?

i like to take a lot of pictures

Tim99Zr2 · 05-15-2008, 11:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

kid? what are you trying to say son?

i like to take a lot of pictures

ive noticed.. and i dont think i care to see some of them.!!

P.S. where are my free shackles?

19914x4blazer · 05-15-2008, 11:45 PM

why do you have a pic of your own ass?

tfpets · 05-16-2008, 12:35 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 19914x4blazer

why do you have a pic of your own ass?

I would bet/hope that alcohol was involved!!

***Donahue*** · 05-16-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets

I would bet/hope that alcohol was involved!!

would you be disappointed to learn i dont drink?

actually, it was a joke, i was emulating my 4 year old nephew that pulls his pants down all the way to pee. somebody just happened to snap a picture real quick.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-16-2008, 03:06 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

would you be disappointed to learn i dont drink?

actually, it was a joke, i was emulating my 4 year old nephew that pulls his pants down all the way to pee. somebody just happened to snap a picture real quick.

jeeze donahue, your tuff!! picking on a 4 yr old..

Baggey22 · 05-16-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

thats just wrong.. this kid has a refrence pic for EVERYTHING! jeeze.. ewww!!

anyway, baggey, i did something with my vac lock that you might be interested in. ill have to get some pics of it.. its pretty much a manual hub.. haha

Alright, well where are the pix?

Tim99Zr2 · 05-16-2008, 12:53 PM

ill get some when its not raining
they will be phone pics thou..

Baggey22 · 05-16-2008, 12:58 PM

that's okay.
Why don't you just EXPLAIN what you did while you wait for the rain to stop.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-16-2008, 01:05 PM

ok, that works.
first, i took the plastic cover off on the vac acuator. then you will see a rubber boot in there, you have to pull the boot up and out of the way, then you will be able to see under the washer in there. the washer is hooked to a shaft, take a cut off wheel and cut the boot&washer off the shaft. this will leave you with just the bottom (metal) pat of the vacuum housing. next i took my grinder and cut that off (down as close to the cast part as i could.
) pulled it off. so now all that you have where the vacumm actuator used to be is a metal shaft. i then welded a washer on the end of it, just to make it easier to pull out & push in.

Pulled out is in 2wd, pushed in is 4wd. i use a RC car body clip to hold it out, in 2wd. and am going to rig up a spring of some sort to hold it in 4wd.

ill have to get pics when its done raining. sounds pretty confusing

Baggey22 · 05-16-2008, 01:17 PM

Should have taken pix of the during process.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-16-2008, 01:23 PM

yea..

i dont think of it until its too late..

***Donahue*** · 05-16-2008, 07:12 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

yea.. i dont think of it until its too late..

thats exactly why i take so many pictures.

Tim99Zr2 · 05-17-2008, 03:57 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

thats exactly why i take so many pictures.

of your ass...

***Donahue*** · 05-21-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

of your ass...

i didnt take that obviously, because it was my ass. and that is the only one

19914x4blazer · 05-21-2008, 11:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

i didnt take that obviously, because it was my ass. and that is the only one

you could have. they have timers on them, so you can be in the pic

Tim99Zr2 · 07-04-2008, 05:03 PM

ok, well i got an update.

the truck is pretty much done, finally got my springs figured out. i just need rear shocks, and shorten the rear drive shaft.

pissed with the springs today, up front i got a XJ main, Fullsize chevy main below that, and 2 zr2 springs on the bottom.

as for flex, ill let the pics show you!

so i think its getting there, i went for a little trail ride to test it out, since i havent driven it since i bought my rocket.

whatta ya think?

05-11-2008, 12:10 AM	#601
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 and will the np231 output shaft accept the jeeps yoke? It should. Mine did.
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05-11-2008, 12:14 AM	#602
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 kk.. uhh do jeep np231s have a different teeth count than the gm np233? I dont think so. They both have the same 2.72:1 gear ratio. I could be wrong though. Did you swap the output shafts already?
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05-11-2008, 02:50 AM	#603
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no yea man, they are good. i got to looking and the front seal was messed up. one of the springs in it was rubbing on the bearing in there, causing the "clicking" sound.. (i think)
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05-11-2008, 01:28 PM	#604
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no what seal did you use wrekd? on the front output shaft Last edited by Tim99Zr2 : 05-11-2008 at 01:32 PM.
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05-11-2008, 06:04 PM	#605
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no I got one for a 89 XJ with the np231 t-case. If i was able to find all my receipts i could of given you a part number, but I cant find the damn things no where
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05-11-2008, 06:07 PM	#606
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no i got it man, napa hooked me up with one. but there is an internal problem, its not engaging in 4wd the whole way. im going to have to take it somewhere to get checked out. BUT i did get to run it a little bit in 4LO and holy hell its a tank
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05-11-2008, 06:20 PM	#607
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no That sucks. Do you have any idea what you might have messed up?
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05-12-2008, 12:34 AM	#608
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no i got thinking.. there isnt much inside the tcase to mess up. what about the 3 vacuum lines on it? would they affect it? its almost like it wont fully go into 4wd. and when it does, it pops out. what gives?
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05-12-2008, 11:05 AM	#609
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Vacuum lines shouldnt have nothing to do with it. Maybe the shifter motor is going bad or something.
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05-12-2008, 02:05 PM	#610
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd Vacuum lines shouldnt have nothing to do with it. Maybe the shifter motor is going bad or something. yea, thats another thing i thought of
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05-12-2008, 07:04 PM	#611
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no I would just tear it down again and see if you can find anything wrong in there. Other than that I dont know what to tell ya.
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05-12-2008, 08:48 PM	#612
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,880 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no just to catch myself up, tim, are you using a 231 now or just parts from a 231 on your 233? if its a 231, sounds like the linkage could be out of adjustment. the vaccum lines just control the stock actuator, they do nothing to effect the way the t-case works other than seal a hole.
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05-13-2008, 01:05 AM	#613
Baggey22 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,086 Location: Johnson, Vermont User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Tim you can have my old NP233 for parts if you want, just pay for me to ship it to you.
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05-13-2008, 03:08 AM	#614
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue just to catch myself up, tim, are you using a 231 now or just parts from a 231 on your 233? if its a 231, sounds like the linkage could be out of adjustment. the vaccum lines just control the stock actuator, they do nothing to effect the way the t-case works other than seal a hole. no, im using the 233C with the 231J front output shaft on it. so it may be my electric motor bad then, since it shouldnt be the vacuum?
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05-13-2008, 03:06 PM	#615
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no ok, i simply think my electric motor is "out of time" not letting it engage in 4LO the whole way, i tested out just 4HI today, and its holding up fine! and climbing hills with ease
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05-13-2008, 03:38 PM	#616
98-LS-lifted Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 663 Location: Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no are you done yet....geez
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05-13-2008, 03:40 PM	#617
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no working some bugs out man.. almost. not working on it as hard, since i have nother SAS dime going on. and starting a SAS on a dakota soon (ford 9" d44 out of a bronco) using the bronco suspension on it Last edited by Tim99Zr2 : 05-13-2008 at 03:41 PM.
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05-13-2008, 03:44 PM	#618
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no just some little hills i was climbing, stopping on, then finishing the climb.. testing it out, so far so good.. and i DO need to rework my exhaust, just might go with duals with some quiet mufflers. any suggestions?
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05-13-2008, 06:08 PM	#619
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no so do you have 4 Lo now or just 4hi
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05-13-2008, 06:54 PM	#620
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,880 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 just some little hills i was climbing, stopping on, then finishing the climb.. testing it out, so far so good.. and i DO need to rework my exhaust, just might go with duals with some quiet mufflers. any suggestions? is it just me, or does it look like you are a little saggy in the rear. need some shackles?
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05-13-2008, 07:43 PM	#621
mullet9675 Not my Blazer Age: 24 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 225 Location: Cut-N-Shoot User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue is it just me, or does it look like you are a little saggy in the rear. need some shackles? your a born salesman but you do have a saggy ass
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05-13-2008, 07:58 PM	#622
crazy91s10 Registered Asshole Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,078 Location: Moscow, PA / Mansfield, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by mullet9675 your a born salesman but you do have a saggy ass when did you see donahue's ass
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05-13-2008, 08:25 PM	#623
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,880 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by crazy91s10 when did you see donahue's ass
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05-13-2008, 11:11 PM	#624
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no WTF!!!!! get that pic outta here.. jesus!! wrekd, i didnt try 4LO today, only 4HI. 4HI works fine. donahue, i do need some 2" ones. ill PM you my addy for my free set, since we talked so much about your kit! bahaha! (they will be strictly for advertisiment purposes!
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05-13-2008, 11:42 PM	#625
wrekd Registered User Age: 25 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,029 Location: Sugar Notch, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue thats freakin hilarious
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05-14-2008, 12:57 PM	#626
crazy91s10 Registered Asshole Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 4,078 Location: Moscow, PA / Mansfield, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd thats freakin hilarious thats freakin
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05-15-2008, 12:44 AM	#627
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Tim your truck looks awesome....way better than Donahue's ass.
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05-15-2008, 01:28 AM	#628
19914x4blazer i love my chevy Age: 27 Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 328 Location: davisburg,mi User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no wow were did that come from?
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05-15-2008, 03:14 AM	#629
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10 Tim your truck looks awesome....way better than Donahue's ass. haha, thanks although thats prob not saying alot... its quite the comparison
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05-15-2008, 10:34 AM	#630
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 35 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,225 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by 19914x4blazer wow were did that come from? Scroll up and you'll figure it out!
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05-15-2008, 01:47 PM	#631
1posS10 Registered User Age: 23 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 487 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no wow, not what i wanted to see....
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05-15-2008, 01:51 PM	#632
ChrisInVT I Rather Be Wheelin' Age: 26 Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,198 Location: The Woods, VT User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Nsfw?
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05-15-2008, 03:37 PM	#633
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no thats just wrong.. this kid has a refrence pic for EVERYTHING! jeeze.. ewww!! anyway, baggey, i did something with my vac lock that you might be interested in. ill have to get some pics of it.. its pretty much a manual hub.. haha
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05-15-2008, 06:38 PM	#634
*Donahue* 3 Leaf Fab Age: 25 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,880 Location: Springfield, OR User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2 thats just wrong.. this kid has a refrence pic for EVERYTHING! jeeze.. ewww!! anyway, baggey, i did something with my vac lock that you might be interested in. ill have to get some pics of it.. its pretty much a manual hub.. haha kid? what are you trying to say son? i like to take a lot of pictures
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05-15-2008, 11:10 PM	#635
Tim99Zr2 Fvck New Jersey Age: 21 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,535 Location: Reynoldsville, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: Fix to busted CV shafts & wheel bearings! 56k no no Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue kid? what are you trying to say son? i like to take a lot of pictures ive noticed.. and i dont think i care to see some of them.!! P.S. where are my free shackles?
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