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Old 03-19-2008, 12:25 AM   #201
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS

Wrekd - It steers(is that even a word?) not bad. I don't have jam nuts for it yet because they haven't been delivered. So I haven't driven it a great deal. It is also REALLY scary to drive with the lack of shocks so I haven't put it through its paces yet.
Once I do all that I'll let you all know.

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Thanks!
Old 03-20-2008, 09:53 AM   #202
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
They are both toast, I cranked the Tbars before I decided to go SFA and then went offroading and tore the boots on something.
BUT I do have a 10 bolt with a mini spool. I know you were talking a while ago about getting a posi or something.
I live in VT too ...more south near rutland and...is a mini spool a full locker? if not, and its more like a posi I would love it!!!
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Mini spool
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A mini spool is a little different than a locker or a posi. When going around corners lockers and posi units UNlock so that you don't hop around the corner. A mini spool replaces the spider gears and keeps both axle shafts locked 100% of the time. So basically if you are going around tight corners (parking lots especially) either the inside tire will drag or the outside tire will hop. Because when you turn one has to go faster than the other.
You can get these new for like $100 off eBay, I can't give you mine because after ChrisInVT said he didn't want it I scrapped the axle with the mini spool installed.
My suggestion, DO NOT get a mini spool UNLESS it's a trail only truck. It wasn't bad on the road, but as soon as tight turns were involved (intersections, parking lots, construction zones) it sucked.
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alright thanks...im thinking about replacing my open diff with a gov lock posi from a ZR2 or something...pick one up off ebay...im still trying to figure out if I have a 26 or 28 spline diff though...you know how to tell?
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Why would you want a grenade-lock?

Get a posi carrier out of an F-Body - that's what I did.

IIRC 88+ have the 28 spline and 87- have the 26

Edit: check out this thread: http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f13/10-bolt-faq-129992/

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Quote: Originally Posted by ChrisInVT
Why would you want a grenade-lock?

Get a posi carrier out of an F-Body - that's what I did.

IIRC 88+ have the 28 spline and 87- have the 26

Edit: check out this thread: http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f13/10-bolt-faq-129992/
the year break is no way black and white. my 89 has a 26 spline. if the trucks are within the 87-89 era i would check to make sure. i found out by pulling the axle out and counting the splines.

besides, the zr2 g80 is for the 8.5 rear end and wouldnt fit your application. also, if your a fairly good welder, you can weld the side and spider gears to the carrier like i did. for all practical purposes its a spool, but it only cost me the new gear oil and some RTV.
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So update on my Jam Nuts. I sent the seller an email saying that they hadn't arrived and she replied saying that she checked with USPS and they didn't have any record of the shipment. So the seller sent me another pair yesterday and apologized for the inconvenience.
So HOPEFULLY I'll have them tomorrow or Monday.
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Interestingly enough, for the right thread count stud, a trailer hitch nut actually fits on there alright. Don't ask me how I know...
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Heres a crappy camera phone picture of Sally parked next to my DD

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MA plates?
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I am from MA. I go to college in VT. My s10 is registered in NH.
go figure
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How the hell does that work?
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I don't even know. . . . .
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W3RD.

I'll LYK on that PM
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I'm gonna be getting ChrisInVT's NP231 tomorrow, anyone with a first get have an EXTRA Tcase shift knob? His is missing and I won't have time to junkyard hunt for a little while. LET ME KNOW!
Old 03-24-2008, 09:59 AM   #217
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I PM'd you - I think I found the knob - I just have to get it on there and make sure it's not the one from my brother's truck. I should have the extra time this week to pull the T-case out for you too.

You sure you don't want to take the transmission and engine too?
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Update: I swapped the front and rear shackles today. So now I have shackles in the front that are 1" lift over stock and stock shackles in the rear. The truck looks a little funny because now the front is higher than the rear, but my shackle angle is awesome so I don't care for now. I'll get longer ones for the rear soon.
My jam nuts still didn't come yet, I hope they come tomorrow or Wednesday. I'll get pictures of the shackle angle soon. IDK when, so just keep your eyes peeled.
Old 03-26-2008, 07:37 PM   #219
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So I'm getting ChrisInVT's Tcase soon and I need some stuff to make it look good.
Basically all the interior stuff. If anyone has extra or access to them easily let me know, all the stuff in the picture is what I need.
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ahh your putting the whole 231 in?
i think you need a new front bumper too!
and how is that cross over steering working? i just ordered mine the other day, how tight can you turn?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
ahh your putting the whole 231 in?
i think you need a new front bumper too!
and how is that cross over steering working? i just ordered mine the other day, how tight can you turn?
Yea, if I can't find those interior pieces I may just pop rivet an aftermarket shift boot from like a Honda to the floor. I know where 2HI 4HI and 4LO are.
What's wrong with my bumper? It's 3/8"x3"/5" box tube
The crossover steer is great. I don't know how tight yet, still haven't really driven it on the road.
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I've got a nice chrome 1st gen bumper you can have
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Baggey, if you can't find that stuff used, LMCtruck.com has the boots, but they are kinda high priced.
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I think I may just get a leather shift boot from like Wal-Mart and put it in. I know where the lever goes for 2HI 4HI and 4LO. But we'll see.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Yea, if I can't find those interior pieces I may just pop rivet an aftermarket shift boot from like a Honda to the floor. I know where 2HI 4HI and 4LO are.
What's wrong with my bumper? It's 3/8"x3"/5" box tube
The crossover steer is great. I don't know how tight yet, still haven't really driven it on the road.

its like mine, it just doesnt flow with the truck anymore.

and get on driving it. jeesh
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Anyone know exaclty how difficult it will be to swap the T-cases? Like is there anything I'll need to know prior to actually doing it. Besides cutting a hole in the floor for the shift lever.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Anyone know exaclty how difficult it will be to swap the T-cases? Like is there anything I'll need to know prior to actually doing it. Besides cutting a hole in the floor for the shift lever.
Shouldn't be too terribly hard for you to do, especially if you can get it up on a lift/high up enough.
Trans/t-case fluids etc. would of course be something to keep in mind, but other than that and the floor cutting, it's fairly straight forward.
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Thats good to know, the Tcase just shares the transmission fluid with the transmission doesn't it?
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Quote: Originally Posted by MTchevyS10
Shouldn't be too terribly hard for you to do, especially if you can get it up on a lift/high up enough.
Trans/t-case fluids etc. would of course be something to keep in mind, but other than that and the floor cutting, it's fairly straight forward.
we dont need to jack up our trucks to work on them
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
we dont need to jack up our trucks to work on them
I think he was talking about the T-Case
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I'll be fine with that. I just did a clutch on a YJ a last week and we didn't have problems jacking that transmission AND Tcase up. So this should be a little easier since it's just the Tcase.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
we dont need to jack up our trucks to work on them
Neither do I.
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I have installed 2 of the crossover (JB raised steering) brackets the last week...We put one on my brothers d30 for his swap and I just loved it so I ordered one for mine and WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! I got it done last night and put a stock yj drag link on it that I had laying around (which fit pretty darn good!). I took it for a test drive and the bump steer is gone! And it is much tighter than the drop drag link...I am going to pick up a custom drag link tonight that I had made...It still isnt real tight but that is because the s10 has a slower ratio steering box than the yj so you have to move the wheel farther to make it move but it is much better...and you can feel the road much better! took some pictures of the install on my brothers so I will post them up in my thread soon...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Thats good to know, the Tcase just shares the transmission fluid with the transmission doesn't it?
NO it doesnt!!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
I'll be fine with that. I just did a clutch on a YJ a last week and we didn't have problems jacking that transmission AND Tcase up. So this should be a little easier since it's just the Tcase.
What do you need a jack for?? Just yank it out and set it on the floor and lift the new one up there!...Its not heavy! (for me!)
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Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets
NO it doesnt!!
Okay, does it take different fluid? Should I fill it prior to install or afterwards?
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It still should take trans. fluid and all you have to do is pull out the top plug on the rear of the tcase and pump it in until it overflows...I got my new drag link installed and adjusted and man what a difference! I had it made from 1" solid stock and it is pure beef!
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I assume when I take the old Tcase off all the fluid in the transmission will come out. So anyone know exactly how many quarts I'll need total to fill both the transmission AND Tcase when I'm done?
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the fluid from the trans will NOT come out when you take the tcase off!!...the only reason there would be fluid in there is if the output shaft seal in the trans is leaking or the input shaft seal of the tcase is leaking...under normal circumstances there should be no fluid in there!! And the tcase holds about 2 1/2 qts I think...

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Excellent. I like the sound of that. I'll be sure to take pictures of the install process when I do it. Now all I'm waiting for is ChrisInVT to text me saying his Tcase is out of his parts truck for me to pick up.
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UPDATE!!: I went up to a small empty parking lot on campus and took a few pictures. This is the first time Sally has been parked on pavement in a while, so I also wanted to see how it sat.








Bald ass rear tires

Kinda bald front tires (these will be trail spares)




Let me know what everyone thinks!

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and.. how is the steering?

looks great man!!
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Steering is fine, it's still a little scary because of no shocks. But I manage
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Looks good Baggey!
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cool so it turns as sharp as stock?
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Idk about as tight as stock because the 33s are 12.5" wide. Thats another reason why I'm going with a tall skinny tire. The trails around me are really tight so I need the maneuverability.
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Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets
the fluid from the trans will NOT come out when you take the tcase off!!...the only reason there would be fluid in there is if the output shaft seal in the trans is leaking or the input shaft seal of the tcase is leaking...under normal circumstances there should be no fluid in there!! And the tcase holds about 2 1/2 qts I think...
NOT true. When you remove the T-Case it (obviously) breaks the seal between the t-case and tranny, so it will drain *some* of the fluid out of there. Don't believe me? Come look at the floor in my garage

I'm thinking the tranny drained at least 3 quarts out becuase it sat there pouring out fluid for a while, and after the T-case was pulled and I took the truck off the jack stands a bunch more came out. We're not talking leaky seal kinda drip, I'm talking a full F'n stream of fluid.


Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Now all I'm waiting for is ChrisInVT to text me saying his Tcase is out of his parts truck for me to pick up.
Here's a better pics because cell pics blow.



I have the electrical wires for the VSS in case yours don't match up. That shift linkage was a BITCH to remove, the T-case came off easy - that shift linkage was something else alright.

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Got my Tcase from ChrisInVT today. Everything went smooth, he got a nice set of rims and a 31" mounted spare in trade. I can't wait to get this Tcase into my truck!
ChrisInVT get those rims on your s10 ASAP!
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AND AND AND.....


...Wait for it....


You got to see me SUPER AWESOME parts truck!!!


If you don't use those driveshafts I gave you, LMK... I have someone that I'd like to beat with them



Edit: I put them on to see what they'd look like when I was replacing my balljoints, and yeah they do stick out quite a bit - it's awesome! I just need to find myself some used tires now

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If I knew a few months ago that you were looking for tires I would have sold them to you. But my buddy showed interest in them almost immediately.



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