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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
if its electric shift is 233 if its manual its 231
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Baggey, the trucks lookin good man. And for your t-case problems I have the answer
92-97 NP233 have the bigger 1.25" chain and 98 and up have the smaller 1" chain. So since yours is a 95 you have the bigger chain. Youll need a front output shaft from 88-90 s-10 NP231. And youll also need a front output shaft seal from an 89 XJ w/ The NP231 t-case. Also if you wanna run a cv type front driveshaft youll have to get a cv yoke from a XJ with a cv stle driveshaft. Hope that helps ya |
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Would it be easier if I swapped in a 231 transfer case? Would that have the output shaft I want for a CV front drive shaft?
That sounds easier to me than trying to find seals and yokes and crap, unless these are parts I can get at an auto parts store Last edited by Baggey22 : 03-10-2008 at 05:35 PM. |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Pm KY Mudhunter on s-10extremists and see if he still has the output shaft you need. I know he told one of the new members there that he had one in a recent post but I dont think the guy bought it. Hes where i got my front output and cv yoke from. Splitting the case and swapping the shaft out isnt hard at all. It took me like an hour and a half and I learned something new
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Okay, will do. Thanks Wrekd
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
no problem
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
So I just got a message from KYMudhunter on s10extremist.org. He has the output shaft I need and may have a CV joint for me.
I also got a message from ANOTHER forum (www.neow.org) and theres a guy in NH that has an extra 231 that he'll give me for $50 (it might be from a Jeep, is there any difference?). It's on my way home from Vermont to Mass so pickup would be easy. My question is which would be better/easier? I've never dropped a transfer case before so how difficult is that? Or would I just be better off swapping the output shaft and keeping the electronic shift? |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
unbolt 5 bolts maybe take DS off and unhook wires and its out
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Im pretty sure all the Jeep cases run the 1" chain, and I think they have a different input spline count. So thats pretty much out of the question. Id just grab the output shaft and yoke from KYMudhunter and slap it in. Taking the t-case out is easy as pie. You wont have any problems. That said, I would just swap the output shaft and keep the electric shift. I like the electric shift and will only do away with it if it craps out on me.
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Okay, the guy that has the extra 231 said he has a variety of output shafts. So if KYmudhunter doesn't have exactly what I need I have a backup.
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3 Leaf Fab
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
yeah, sorry i never got around to getting you pics. but the questions were answered anyways.
i would think swaping the whole case would be better, but that is because i am not a huge fan of the complicated shifting system of the 233. it would also mean cutting a hole in the floor, which may not sound good to some people. to answer the jeep 231 questions, they come in 21 and 23 spline, but no 27 spline like you need for a chevy trans. |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
So can someone explain the process of taking my output shaft out and putting the new one in?
And a list of things I'll need from KYMudhunter/that guy that has the extra stuff |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
All you need is the front output shaft for 1.25" chain, the nut that holds the yoke on, the cv yoke, and a front output shaft seal for an 89 XJ w/np231 t-case. Oh and some Gasket sealer and some atf to fill the t-case back up when your done.
The swap is pretty easy. You just start taking it apart from the tailshaft down. If something doesnt want to come apart theres most likely a snap ring holding it on. So dont for ce the hell out of something unless you know you have all the snaprings off. If you think youll have a hard time remembering how to put it back together just snap some pics of the teardown process so you have something to refer to. If you could do an SAS you should have no problem tearing down a t-case |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
KY just sent me a message saying he has the output shaft and yoke but he is unsure of the seal I need.
So if I go to a parts store and tell them, "I need a front output shaft seal for an 89 Jeep Cherokee" they'll give me what I need? |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Yep with the 231 t-case. Not the full-time one.
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
KY said he'd give me the output shaft and yoke for $100 plus shipping, is that a good price?
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3 Leaf Fab
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
yea, I would kinda rather have a manual shift Tcase anyway. It's more reliable than the electric ones. I'm gonna make some calls tomorrow and see what I can stir up
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3 Leaf Fab
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Well my zip code is 05656 if you want to find out shipping. It'll just be one more option
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Yeah 100 bucks is a little steep. I cant remember how much I paid for mine, but I know it wasnt that much
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
All I'm waiting for now is pictures of ChrisinVT's Tcase. If he has the correct output yoke I'm gonna snag his next weekend. I'll just have some fabricating to get the manual shift in my floor.
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3 Leaf Fab
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
You're positive it's the one I need? So I can use a CV shaft from a Cherokee?
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3 Leaf Fab
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Well I all I want/need is an output yoke I can put a CV shaft into. I can get a conversion Ujoint to make the s10 transfer case fit the Cherokee drive shaft. Thats what I did with my rear axle. Cause right now my front output shaft doesn't accept a Ujoint, it's weird
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Ask and ye shall recieve: ![]() If you need to cut out a section of the floor to help you fab your shit up, it's all yours to hack the fvck up. |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Thanks a lot. Are you busy on Sunday morning/early afternoon?
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
This or next?
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Next Sunday (March 23). I'm in Mass this weekend.
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Probably nothing, but I might have to take my truck up to a friends to get a bumper built for it. You have my cell # still, right?
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
No I don't, just PM it to me
UPDATE: I got my new rims today!!! They are basically Soft 8s. They are 15x8 with 4" of BS. I got them for $100. They also came a set of 33s! Two of them are BFG A/Ts and two are Grappler M/Ts. The A/Ts are nearly bald but the Grappler tires still have some tread left. I'll be putting them on tomorrow after I cut away some of the old IFS brackets. So I'll have pictures sometime tomorrow! Last edited by Baggey22 : 03-16-2008 at 04:16 PM. |
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
pics?! where?
this looks a little familiar, we're going to SAS it this spring / summer sometime ![]() |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Thats kinda like mine, except for the lack of the red and white pin stripe.
The pictures will be tomorrow. I have the garage ALL day to myself. I have to get a rear brake line fixed and then bleed it. THEN I'm gonna take the front wheels off and cut away the old IFS brackets. If I have time (I should) I'm gonna relocate my front hard lines to lower my stainless line so that it won't stretch when I flex. Once I have that all done I can flex it out and measure for shocks/front drive shaft length |
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
You gota PM...
Oh, and when you upgrade to the bigger tires I'll take the bald 33's off your hands. I need some to play with to see how much sawzall action I'm going to need ![]() |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Here are a few quick pictures I took this morning with my 33s.
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1205847571 http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1205847571 http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1205847571 http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1205847572 I think it turned out great. It's also scary as hell to drive with no shocks. |
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I Rather Be Wheelin'
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Lookin' good man!
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
looks GREAT! awesome man. how tight can you turn?
and x2 on driving with no shocks. haha, it makes a world on a difference |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
I don't know how tight I can turn yet. I'm still waiting on my jam nuts to come in. The ass on eBay has taken two weeks to send them and they STILL aren't here. So my steering is a little goofy right now.
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Fvck New Jersey
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
jeeeze.
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
looks good man id put atleast 35's-36's under her though
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
What did you do for your steering. Got any pics?
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
I don't want to go bigger than 34s for two reasons. I don't want to push the limits of the HPD30 and 34s are less than $150 a tire. 35s are expensive
Not only do I have pictures, I have a whole write up on my steering! http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f134/d...ite-up-335874/ |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
them rear tires look bald as hell
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Thats because they are. They came with the rims.
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Thats right i remember seein that on s10extremists. My bad!
How does it steer? Nice and easy or what? |
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS
Looks good Baggey!
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