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Old 03-04-2008, 11:09 PM   #101
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Re: Project: 1995 s10 SAS

Wow you all got busy today. I appreciate everyone's concern for my safety in rolling the truck over. I do plan on putting slightly longer shackles on it to get a better angle, I just had the stock ones so I just used them to save a little money for the time being. I'm thinking like 1-1.5" over stock, anyone have suggestions?
And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY.
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will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
will a longer shackle help your problem out? i didnt think it would. but then again i dont know anything
it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.
i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles
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Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
it will force the spring eye to go lower, making the shackle angle less severe.

eh i guess that makes sense.

soooo maybe i could find softer springs, and run a longer shackle... hmmmm
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
And yes tfpets there IS a bushing in the shackle hangers. Those are shackle mounts from SKY.
Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices!
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You could use the extra ones I have Tim
And I once I figure out my length for shackles I may be hitting you up for shackles Donahue

Heres a picture of what they look like without bushings, they are amazing btw

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Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets
Cool, I might have to look into those for my brothers...Not sure if he wants bushing in shackle or bushing in hanger but those are nice looking peices!
go with a bushing in hanger. its much easier to adjust the length of the shackle if needed.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue
i forgot to mention that with that spring, could use one of my shackles
Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
You could use the extra ones I have Tim

why do i want more s10 springs? im thinkin yj or tk springs?
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Quote: Originally Posted by tfpets
Shameless plug!! LOL...but yeah thats a good idea!!
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The deal may be sealed when I need them if I get promised some of the little rivet on logos. I could put one on my hood as a hood ornament like old Cadillacs used to do
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Those shackles would work, I put 3 inch drop shackles for a 1/2 ton chevy. they work great. i had the same extreme shackle angle you have and as soon as i put the longer ones on there, it corrected the problem.
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Here are the pics of my shock mounts like I promised. Like i said, I don't like them and need to change them. Now with that said, you can obviously tell where the shocks run into coil buckets. Hooray!!



and here are my shackles for you viewing pleasure. hope it helped. oh and excellent choice on front springs.
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What's with the bungee cord?
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looks like its keeping the slack out of his limit chain?
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Hey Baggey! Just wondering how long it took you to get the steering bracket from JB?? and lifted2wds10 you need to get in touch so we can go wheeling some time!! We could have a local crew of SAS s10s in town!! That would be a cool picture!!
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tfpets: It didn't take long. I think it was like 5 or 6 business days. The shipping was really good.
Lifted2wd: What did you do for a front drive shaft? I'll be needing one soon. Also how much longer over stock are your front shackles?

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Old 03-05-2008, 04:15 PM   #119
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Quote: Originally Posted by Storm
nice ride, i have similar roll bars on my truck, i welded 2 extra light brackets on it
Curious!! Is that a roll bar or light bar???
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Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all
Old 03-06-2008, 01:37 PM   #121
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So I know Tim did a PTO drive shaft for his swap, what did/are other people doing? I'm hoping to get this done by the end of the month so that when "mud season" starts I'll be ready.
Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Yes in Vermont we have mud season, it's amazing.
Next month it should be here!!!

You need to wander out my way, the Connecticut river floods into all the local farm fields. Makes for some fun water fording and mud slinging fun!

When I first got my truck I went through a farm field so full of water that it was coming over the hood. I was surprised I didn't hydrolock the engine with the ghetto air filter and stock fan setup Had to go through it to get to the mud - it was hella fun. My brother tried in his Cherokee and got stuck the day before when there was less water. He attempted to that day but it wouldn't make it far enough. That's when I decided it might actually be worth it to put some money into the truck.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Mine is a light bar only, it's not attached to the frame at all
Yep, alot of people confuse those as roll bars.
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tfpets: yes we do where do you live? that would be sweet.

baggey:







My front shaft is basically a modified jeep front shaft. It has 1310 u joints like a jeep, but i had my driveshaft guy build it with .120" wall tubing and he put a full size bronco slip yoke in there. it extends out a little more than the jeep unit.

And my shackles are 6.5" long bolt center to bolt center. Like i said i used chevy lowering shackles and lopped the bottom set of holes off so they are not quite as long as they could have been. as far as how much longer, just measure the ones you have and note the difference.
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i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine
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Quote: Originally Posted by Geoff03
i run a stock s10 front shaft. fits in fine

mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2
mine didnt have any slip in it. do first gen ones?
yes, all the ones with a fixed yoke like in the picture above.
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lucky you. mines gay
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lucky you. mines gay
i know, its double ghey with the push button crap
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I had the same drive shaft you do Tim. How did you get it out of the T case? Mine wouldn't come out easily so we just cut it and said "F it I'll do it later"
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smack it with a hammer, it has a retaining clip in it. it will eventually come off. i then threw the clip away
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we used a big screwdriver as a pry bar to get it off my friends truck
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Anyone know if I can take that out and put like a yoke into it?
And Tim if you got rid of the retaining clip how is it gonna stay in there with the new drive shaft?
Also I know when I pulled the rear drive shaft out of the transfer case Tranny fluid leaked out a lot. Will anything leak out without the front in?

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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Anyone know if I can take that out and put like a yoke into it?
And Tim if you got rid of the retaining clip how is it gonna stay in there with the new drive shaft?
Also I know when I pulled the rear drive shaft out of the transfer case Tranny fluid leaked out a lot. Will anything leak out without the front in?

no nothing will leak out the front. i am putting a set screw in it, i dont think that clip is that strong to hold it on. and you can get a 231 case and swap the front output shafts so you can put a yoke on it. if this way doesnt work that is what im going to do
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So I can just grab a yoke from a junk yard S10 with the 231? So I'll just look for an S10/Blazer with a manual shift transfer case. Thats awesome, can anyone second what Tim said just so I'm sure
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you can. i think donahue told me that.
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It's not that I don't trust what you say, I just want more input than one person. Nothing personal.
If that is the case, anyone have any extras? Or can get one easily and cheap? The junk yards here are covered in ice and snow so it's hard to get parts and off road season starts REAL soon.
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ive got a small pile of s10 parts just wasting space in my garage, including the 231 that came out of my s10. too bad your a country away.

the fixed yoke may swap over to the 233 case, or it may not. i dont think i was the one that told tim, at least i dont remember doing so.
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So the 231 is a fixed yoke in the front?
You could just send me the yoke and whatever hardware is necessary to make it stay in place
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
So the 231 is a fixed yoke in the front?
You could just send me the yoke and whatever hardware is necessary to make it stay in place
mine is/was. i cant speak for all of them, but all the ones i have seen are. you would need bare minimum the output shaft, these ones are threaded on the end for a large pinion type nut.
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Do you have a picture of exactly what I need? Or you should/could just send me what I need
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Do you have a picture of exactly what I need? Or you should/could just send me what I need
you could probably find one locally for the shipping it would cost for me to send you this one.


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Okay, now what nut are you talking about? Where/How do I get that off?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22
Okay, now what nut are you talking about? Where/How do I get that off?
i got to go, when i get back i will take some pictures of what i am talking about.
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Thanks Donahue, I'll be waiting
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my truck moves again.
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Still waiting on those pictures Donahue!
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If it's anything you can steal off my parts truck, it's yours if you want to drive to STJ to pick it up.
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Does your parts truck have a 231 or a 233 transfer case?
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Tell me where to check and I'll LYK.



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