Project: 1995 s10 SAS

[Tim99Zr2]

hell yea! looks good. im going to work on mine soon!

[crazy91s10]

holy shit... bout damn time. how long have we waited for these pics???!!! looks great man! those 34s look small on there... wish i could see that truck in person!

[wrekd]

Looks good Baggey. Now wheres the flex pics

[ChrisInVT]

That tire on the RH side of the first picture is the same trad of the tires I'll be getting


And why is your truck leaning? is it just the picture?

[Donahue]

now its time to take the BL out

[Baggey22]

That is the same tread as what you'll be getting Chris.
Flex pix will be coming soon.
I was thinking about taking the BL off, we'll see though.
The lean is half the truck and half the driveway. It leans a little but it's not terrible.

[4wdjoey]

Quote: Originally Posted by Baggey22

Here you go sluts, ENJOY!





I didn't get to drive the truck around much because the tranny is being retarded.

How much clearance do you have under the front shackles?

[Baggey22]

I haven't actually measured how much clearance I have. They do hang kinda low. I plan to move the frame mount and put a smaller shackle on it soon.

[ChrisInVT]

Sweet!

And I 2nd the body lift removal motion.

Have you thought about putting the shackles on the front like Jeeps do? Those shackles do hang down very low.

[Baggey22]

Putting the shackles on the front would require a lot of modification. Once I put the shorter shackles on it'll be better.

[Geoff03]

paint your frame son

[wrekd]

Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame?

[Donahue]

read this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426

[Tim99Zr2]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Baggey, whats your spring perch width? Is there any way you can inboard the shackles instead of putting them right underneath the frame?

he is prob 31" CTC of the springs. mine are inboard some?

[Donahue]

some, but not enough to clear the drivers side frame rail, at least not on my truck. mine are at 31.5" and my pass side one could go higher, but my drivers side frame rail stick in farther about 2".

[Tim99Zr2]

i dont think mine is the same frame.. are they donahue?? i forget.

[wrekd]

Wow. I didnt think the Dana 30 had that wide of a perch width. Mine is at 31.5" CTC and thats fullwidth. Mine are also inboarded with the shackle about 2 inches up in the frame

[Donahue]

second and first gen frames are not the same, but they are similar. the z frame however may actually be symmetrical side to side unlike the regular 4x4's.

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?

edit: also, YJ 30's have that perch width. CJ's do not, they are like 27". 70's ford, and chevy share the same width as well as scout and waggys, and dodge is just 1" wider at 32.5". 85-99 (or whenever the superduty took over) it was 36" or 36.5" and the superduties are a whopping 39" CTC.

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

read this thread:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=652426

Pretty cool idea, but I wouldnt run them.

[wrekd]

[quote=Donahue;5464310]\

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?
quote]

No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame.

Did that make sense?

[Donahue]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

wreckd, did you have to modify the frame at all to mount them higher?

No. I had 1" of clearence on each side between the frame and shackle mount. I put the bolt in from the inside, toward the frame, pushed it in til i could get the nut on, and then just ground down the bolt until it cleared without hitting the frame.
Did that make sense?

did you inboard past 31.5"? or are your frame rails symmetrical?

[wrekd]

I know I didnt have to go past 31.5". But I'm not 100% sure theyre symmetrical. I think they are but I'll have to check tomorrow.

[Donahue]

get pics too if you could, i would be interested.

[Tim99Zr2]

yea, mine are symmetrical

[wrekd]

Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me

[DieselS10]

Looks good baggey!

[Donahue]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Yeah so are mine. i just went out and checked. Curiosity got the best of me

was yours a 2wd originally?

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

was yours a 2wd originally?

No it was a 4x4. I went and took a pic of it. So it'll be up in a few mins.

[wrekd]

Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done

[Tim99Zr2]

i dont see a tailgate....

[wrekd]

Tailgates are overrated

[Donahue]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Ok here it is. Its not a pretty mount, but it gets the job done

that is not really any different than mine, how about the other side?

[wrekd]

Its exactly the same

[Baggey22]

Wrekd yours aren't much different than mine, the top of my shackle mount (on the frame) sits 1/4 below the frame because of how I mounted them. I was thinking about sliders but never really thought seriously about them.
Like I said I'm still seriously thinking about moving the mount so I can use the smaller shackles and if I get REAL adventurous I'll put on the slightly shorter s10 springs with the shorter shackle to make it just that little bit better.
And my frame is NO WHERE near symmetrical. It's completely different on both sides.

[Donahue]

im curious wreckd, i have examined a 97 4wd blazer, and it appeared to be asymmetrical like my 89. one of the dead give aways was the trans crossmember being asymmetrical as well. on mine and the 97' i looked at, the drivers side mounted with 2 bolts running front to back, on a ledge about 4" up from the bottom of the frame on the inside. on the passenger side, it mounted with 2 bolts that were running vertical and to the side of the frame. is this how yours was?

[wrekd]

Was the 97 a 2dr or 4dr? Cause they are probably different.


If it ever stops raining Ill have to look today when it light out. It was dark out last night, but from what I can tell it was the same. I could be wrong though and probably am

[Donahue]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Was the 97 a 2dr or 4dr? Cause they are probably different.


If it ever stops raining Ill have to look today when it light out. It was dark out last night, but from what I can tell it was the same. I could be wrong though and probably am

4dr LS

[ChrisInVT]

I'm home already and you don't have the flex pictures up?


I'm disappointed in you Adam...


Edit: that 1.25 hour drive only took me about 30 minutes

[Baggey22]

You know my internet Chris. It didn't work for SHIT and then I came to the theatre for a dance party. So now I'm on the computer in the box office telling everyone that as soon as I can I'll put up the flex pictures on PhotoBucket so that EVERYONE can see them.
Yea, Chris and I found out the fun way that my truck has a crazy amount of flex. It's gonna be sweet once it's done.
We also 90% finished the transmission crossmember. All that's left to do is drill and tap some holes to make it bolt up to the frame/transmission. I'll put up pictures as soon as I can. I promise!

[Tim99Zr2]

howd you flex it? fork lift? drive it?

[Baggey22]

I have lots of large rocks at the end of my driveway. So I drove it up onto them. But it was wet and it was somewhat difficult.

[DieselS10]

It waits patiently.

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by Donahue

4dr LS

Yeah its probably the same as mine then.

Baggey, cant wait to see the flex pics

[Baggey22]

I'm on dial up right now because satellite internet SUCKS!!! DON'T EVER GET IT!!! So I can't upload the pictures to photobucket because it's too slow.
But NEVER FEAR! I'm going to take the pictures to my buddy's house later this afternoon and load them onto photobucket from there. Then I'll post them up here.
But I have another question for Donahue or Wrekd. Tim was WRONG (ha ha) and my XJ drive shaft is too LONG (not short TIM) so I'm just going to make it out of square tube. My Tcase yoke and D30 yoke are 29 inches apart what length (and size) tube would I need to buy? Don't forget I'm going to use the CV joint as well. If I get the info by the time I go to my buddy's house I may be able to get the DS bought and made tonight or tomorrow. Let me know!

[Baggey22]

Well you guys are LUCKY my satellite internet came back. I got the flex pictures uploaded. So here they are!










So there they are. I still need that square driveshaft info!!!!

[Tim99Zr2]

i can go measure my DS for ya. i went a PTO route. it was nice to use.

i thought my xj shaft was too short. it could of been to long also, i dont remember

[Tim99Zr2]

btw, pics look good man!!

[Tim99Zr2]

ok, triple post buddy!!!

this is how mine is, for now.

25.75" CTC on the universals on the DS
19.25" Outside shaft length
3" Inside shaft showing (slipped out)
28.25" Outside universal to outside universal (Yokes on the tcase to axle)

when i measured off a universal they were CTC.

do you understand those lengths? if not, i can MS paint it up for ya!

[Baggey22]

I don't think measurements from your driveshaft will do me any good Tim. I just need to know what size (OD and wall) tube and what lengths the two pieces need to be so I can get them today or tomorrow. Also some info on how to make it would be excellent too. I know I've seen Wrekd and Donahue with square front driveshafts so I know SOMEONE knows what I need.

[Tim99Zr2]

here you can see the 3" of the inside shaft hanging out.


here is how i bought it at tractor supply for around 100$ (its on the bottom)