Lets See Your SFA S-10

[Missourileo]

Thanks for the welcome and the interest. I've got a Dana 30 under it for now. The springs are from a 95 Cherokee, steering is as well combined with zr2 steering. The front crossmember I fabbed up and am currently working on a setup for attaching the rear of the front springs. Still need to make shock tower and mounts, set the pinion agle, swap out the t-case and well......A lot to go!!! I have an extra t-case with encoder motor as well if anyone needs one. I'm still trying to figure out how to bypass the ABS(or make it work) with the D30(w/outABS). I'll keep posting pics as I go.

[Tim99Zr2]

ditch the ABS man, i did it. def dont want ABS if you go wheeling.

[Missourileo]

I might do that. Do you have any pics of how you hooked up the rear of your front springs? I need a few more ideas.

[Tim99Zr2]

here is my photobucket
http://s209.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/Tim99Zr2/Mine/

pics of my whole swap in there
i also have a build thread on here, in the 4WD SFA section

[BigBoy70]

The idea behind this build was for a cruser (go and watch the other idiots! )/ parts hauler, most of my friends are into the extremes of rock crawling and I just don't have the $$$$ to keep up with 'em.

It's a '98
4.3/TH-350/NP203(twin-sticked)
Dana 44 Front (international pickup) & a 12 Bolt Rear (Chevy) both stuffed with 4.56's
Pro Comp 2.5" lift springs for a YJ up front
Bastard packs in rear


Whats left before the shake down run (got all of it, just gotta put it on):
Full Hydro
new shackles frnt & rear
Bumpers welded on
Put shocks on

[BigBoy70]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

your shackles look fvcked. why they "bent"?

Well....I had to run across the street to the parts store, and while i was gone my buddy who does my welding mussed up the measurements on the center-to-center of the perches. they were a little less than an inch out. didn't look that bad up on the lift, but when we set it down with weight on it...... well you saw the results

[Tim99Zr2]

ahh, better fix it up.

[PABlazin]

BigBoy70..... Looks can be decieving and pictures do not always show the right detail... but I was wondering, is the front axle you chose wider then the rear? Looks like your front wheel base is a little wider then the rear.... but it could just be the angle of the pics.... And Do you have project shots?

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by PABlazin

BigBoy70..... Looks can be decieving and pictures do not always show the right detail... but I was wondering, is the front axle you chose wider then the rear? Looks like your front wheel base is a little wider then the rear.... but it could just be the angle of the pics.... And Do you have project shots?

Pretty much every 4x4 is wider in the front. I dont know why?? Its just the way it is.

[Tim99Zr2]

they say it helps with tire tracking. i guess it helps the rear tires follow the path of the front tires

[PABlazin]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

Pretty much every 4x4 is wider in the front. I dont know why?? Its just the way it is.

This is more true when refering to an IFS setup, especially on chevrolets.... but for the most part, paired straight axles are the same width.

Now being that the front Axle he is running is not a paired match to the rear axle, there is a good chance they will be different widths being out of different vehicles, and that was where my question was going..... I was just curious.

However, if you Look at the front of a 3/4 Ford or Dodge, or pretty much any Jeep that is on the road, the tracking is the same front and rear being paired straight axles. So this statement of the front track being wider then the rear is not 100% true.

[wrekd]

My axles are different width. And there from a 77 f-150. My buddies Suburban front rear is wider than his back rear too. So I would say most of them are. Probably all of them, but some more than others.

[greythorn3]

Quote: Originally Posted by wrekd

My axles are different width. And there from a 77 f-150. My buddies Suburban front rear is wider than his back rear too. So I would say most of them are. Probably all of them, but some more than others.

I like your width i think it looks good.. the heights seems pretty good also.

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by greythorn3

I like your width i think it looks good.. the heights seems pretty good also.

Yeah its pretty well balanced. I think its actually an inch wider than it is tall. I know From the ends of the tires is 81", and the height to the roof was either 79.5" or 80" on the dot. I cant remember exactly though.

[BigBoy70]

Quote: Originally Posted by PABlazin

BigBoy70..... Looks can be decieving and pictures do not always show the right detail... but I was wondering, is the front axle you chose wider then the rear? Looks like your front wheel base is a little wider then the rear.... but it could just be the angle of the pics.... And Do you have project shots?

yup, the rear is about 4" narrower than the front. When it comes to the Dana 44 fronts there are about 3 to 5 different widths in their "full-size" form.

No real pics during the build up , i got some from after i did the front & before i did the rear.....

[MTchevyS10]

I think I saw a lowrider that looked like that once...

[PABlazin]

Now that is a cool shot.... How did it drive? LMAO

[Tim99Zr2]

wow, at that drag link angle! turn like shit? ha

nice thou. more people are doing the shackle in the front now

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by BigBoy70

yup, the rear is about 4" narrower than the front. When it comes to the Dana 44 fronts there are about 3 to 5 different widths in their "full-size" form.

No real pics during the build up , i got some from after i did the front & before i did the rear.....

Looks like your front crossmember is crooked. You got a different angle on each shackle.

Are you gonna be running hi-steer up front??

[BigBoy70]

In hind sight i wish i would've done the shackle in the rear....it's gonna bind i'm sure.

I see ya saw the steering!! thats cut & welded pieces from the ifs, puttin' full hydro on it this week. The shackles in that pic were temps, i'll post pics of the ones i'm running now later this week.

[greythorn3]

fords a jeeps run them shackles at the front bumper like that.. and it works.

[MTchevyS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by greythorn3

fords a jeeps run them shackles at the front bumper like that.. and it works.

Depends on what you are using it for and how you want the suspension to cycle, more or less. Shackles up front can work, but I'd be partial to running them in the rear.

[Donahue]

almost every car on the road has a wider front track width than the rear, not just 4x4's. it decreased the turning radius. for sure every solid axle ford and chevy, and 99% sure dodge as well as setup this way. oh, and dont forget nissan, toyota, and isuzu (though most in this list are IFS).

[93Vortecon30s]

heres mine almost ready for the road.. cant wait to paint her up and go wheelin..

[SDR420]

93Vortecon30s, what are your plans for repainting the exterior? Looking forward to seeing the progress. Very nice 1stgen 4door.

[93blazer4dr]

Quote: Originally Posted by monkeywrench

83 s15 496 stroker th400/205 14bolt D60 sitting on 38.5's motors been taken out rebuild and cleaned up since pics

not a 4x4 guy but that is one nice ride.
did you roll the bed sides and fenders out??? or can you buy the bedsides and fenders like that??

[Tim99Zr2]

Quote: Originally Posted by 93blazer4dr

not a 4x4 guy but that is one nice ride.
did you roll the bed sides and fenders out??? or can you buy the bedsides and fenders like that??

those are def fiberglass pre runner sides. you can buy them

[monkeywrench]

Quote: Originally Posted by 93blazer4dr

not a 4x4 guy but that is one nice ride.
did you roll the bed sides and fenders out??? or can you buy the bedsides and fenders like that??

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

those are def fiberglass pre runner sides. you can buy them

they where hand made out of steel. took two boxes to make the box sides and two front ends to make the front clip

[greythorn3]

thats a sweet radiator relocation to the bed, what size pipe did you use for that? was it galvanized or anything special?

[monkeywrench]

Quote: Originally Posted by greythorn3

thats a sweet radiator relocation to the bed, what size pipe did you use for that? was it galvanized or anything special?

1.5" tubing. nothing fancy.

[93Vortecon30s]

Quote: Originally Posted by SDR420

93Vortecon30s, what are your plans for repainting the exterior? Looking forward to seeing the progress. Very nice 1stgen 4door.

hey thx.. the body is in good shape on it just the fenders were messed and i need a drivers door. but paint im planning either all gloss black or i was gonna go with a 2 tone, medium silver from the bottom up to the body line(4" below window) then do black from there up. i want it to look good but perform good aswell.. itll be getting painted in spring, no sence in painting it during the winter for the salt to get at it.. plus i still have to toss on my rock sliders and a few more things.. thx for looking.

[DieselS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 93Vortecon30s

hey thx.. the body is in good shape on it just the fenders were messed and i need a drivers door. but paint im planning either all gloss black or i was gonna go with a 2 tone, medium silver from the bottom up to the body line(4" below window) then do black from there up. i want it to look good but perform good aswell.. itll be getting painted in spring, no sence in painting it during the winter for the salt to get at it.. plus i still have to toss on my rock sliders and a few more things.. thx for looking.

That Black & Silver paint scheme would be awesome!

[93Vortecon30s]

thx man i think itll look really shaft, with just a lil bit of chrome, just the grill and wheels will be chrome with clear corners.. but it will by no mean be a mall crawler lol


basically like this, i picked it out from my bronco but then it burnt =( just opposite black on top.. but it does look good with the black on the bottom.. ill have to photoshop my blazer lol

[DYHTPOYS]

heres mine

[wrekd]

Quote: Originally Posted by DYHTPOYS

heres mine

Specs???

[Baggey22]

X2 on the specs, and MORE pictures!

[DYHTPOYS]

87 s10
305 v8
nv3500
np231
1 tons dana60 welded14 bolt welded
57 ford explorer leafs up front
52 chevys in the rear
dual 2.5 exhaust with flowmasters
40inch irocks
box is coming off now to build a flat deck exo

[Merritt]

^^Very nice truck!!

[mudhog007]

I might as well add a couple pics of mine here too.

sitting next to my old suburban that had 4" lift and 35's


Just finished my new front bumper


And tube door


All flexed up in my backyard

[Grunto]

How did you end up mounting those tube doors? Using regular door pins or something else?

[mudhog007]

I cut the original hinges off of the doors (PITA BTW) then I put the hinges back on the truck and welded a 2x2x1/4 angle to both hinges then took them off and finished burning them in. Then I started bending pipe. Viola, one tube door.

[SFAZR2]

[DieselS10]

^^^ That's a sweet rig, give us some specs.

[SFAZR2]

2.5 ton Rockwell's, Full hydro 4 wheel steer, double bead-locked 49" Iroks (now), atlas II, 4 linked front & rear, 16" Fox 2.5 coil-overs on the front and 18" 2.5 Fox air shox on the back, Still has the 4.3 and 4l60e (for now), 6.0 and th400 are on the drawing board.


Dw

[DieselS10]

I believe I've seen your truck/truggy over at Pirate. The trucks here don't get quite as extreme as yours, but having grown up being friends with John Sumner formerly of WMS, I definately admire and appreciate what you've built. Do you have any wheeling video's of it.

[Tim99Zr2]

Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10

The trucks here don't get quite as extreme as yours.

thats cause we're not old yet.

[SFAZR2]

Quote: Originally Posted by Tim99Zr2

thats cause we're not old yet.

Who's "we", Diesel and I are the same age?


Dw

[SFAZR2]

Quote: Originally Posted by DieselS10

Do you have any wheeling video's of it.

http://s30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...08Tooof020.flv

I have more stuff, including the build over on ZR2USA.


Dw

[Tim99Zr2]

Quote: Originally Posted by SFAZR2

Who's "we", Diesel and I are the same age?


Dw

wrekd, baggey, myself, and who knows who else.

most people on this site are under 25.

[SFAZR2]

That's alright you'll be "old" someday, maybe.