Best rear axle to use

pacepace · 09-26-2009, 09:41 AM

I am going to get a 1980 Cherokee/Wagoneer dana 44 front axle today and was wondering should i also get the rear dana 44 in it? Would it bolt up to the s10 springs or could i use cherokee/wagoneer springs?

96superflow · 09-26-2009, 10:24 AM

you can, but if i were you, i would get a new model rodeo or passport rear end. i believe you want a 93 and up. They got the dana 44 with 4.30 gears already and some have limited slip. I believe they also have disc brakes. Since you are probably going to have to regear the front it will probably be cheaper to find one of these. They also have the same bolt pattern for the wheels.

BigBoy70 · 09-26-2009, 12:29 PM

not to mention, that some of the waggy rear ends actually have an off-set rear which is something you truly want to avoid

solenoid · 09-27-2009, 01:30 PM

I would suggest an explorer 8.8 with custom axles and redrilled drums, cheap and easy, huge axles ,rip off of chevy 12 bolt ,common junkyard find.bullet proof rearennd except for c-clips ,which can be eliminated.Right width to. The waggy amc 20 is almost as tough without having to deal with the bolt pattern, again almost a blatent rip off of the 12 bolt chevy.Depends alot on how hard you play and how much finese you have off road.

pjg1173 · 09-28-2009, 12:21 PM

I would opt to use the D44 or AMC 20HD out of the waggy IF the diff wasn't offset. I used the D44 out of the waggy I got my front out of. when I regear, change seals, change carriers, ect I just order 2 of everything.

pacepace · 09-30-2009, 08:29 AM

I am getting the rear axle out of it. Its a amc 20HD centered. I am getting the front and rear for $300.

pacepace · 10-05-2009, 10:26 AM

I decided to run 41'' iroks radial on the street and was wondering would 4.88 gears be fine cause if not i am going to have to get a different axle

96superflow · 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM

well, an isuzu axle should be able to be geared to lower than 4.88. i havent been able to find anywhere that sells the amc20 any lower, im guessing thats what your talking about b/c the front i found with hardly any searching to 5.38. You can use an earlier or later d 44. so thats what you can use, i guess. I personally would running lower than 4.88 with 41s.

pjg1173 · 10-05-2009, 02:27 PM

i have ran 39.5 iroks with 4.88 and the speedo was still 5 mph fast. i don't think that 41's will be that much of a difference. unless you are pushing them with a 4 banger 4.88 puts you close to stock tire and gear ratio, but if you ever plan on going bigger.... might want to just look for a D44.

pacepace · 10-06-2009, 06:36 PM

ok well i found a 12 bolt that is 66 inches wide drum to drum. my dana 44 is 64 1/2 and amc 20 is 61. they came off same jeep. would the 12 bolt line up good with the front.

BuzzerPB · 10-06-2009, 08:58 PM

funny i went to the frod D60 with 4:10's and 37" tires and my speedo is right on at 55/60 mph

pacepace · 10-07-2009, 09:06 AM

I do not care about the speedo. I care about how it pulls and gain speed on the road. I do not want it to be slugish.

pacepace · 10-07-2009, 07:00 PM

I just picked up an 1996 gm 14 bolt eight lug out of a 2500. I was wondering can i use the 6 lug axle shaft out of an 14 bolt to replace the 8 lug shaft.

pacepace · 10-07-2009, 07:38 PM

does anyone know of a good website to visit that tells you about the i.d. on the chevy 14 bolt cause i cant find a good website?

DieselS10 · 10-07-2009, 09:13 PM

The bolt pattern on a FF 14 bolt has nothing to do with the axle shafts.

pacepace · 10-07-2009, 09:46 PM

well i found a 14 bolt 6 lug but the 8 lug was already pulled so just got it for $75 dollars. I was just wondering if i could take the axle shafts out of the 14 bolt with 6 lug and put them in mine with no problem cause my fsj dana 44 has 6 lug.

DieselS10 · 10-07-2009, 10:18 PM

No, there is nothing between the 10.5" FF 14 bolt and the SF 9.5" 14 bolt that will interchange except maybe the lugnuts.

09-26-2009, 09:41 AM	#1
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Best rear axle to use I am going to get a 1980 Cherokee/Wagoneer dana 44 front axle today and was wondering should i also get the rear dana 44 in it? Would it bolt up to the s10 springs or could i use cherokee/wagoneer springs?
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09-26-2009, 10:24 AM	#2
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,314 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use you can, but if i were you, i would get a new model rodeo or passport rear end. i believe you want a 93 and up. They got the dana 44 with 4.30 gears already and some have limited slip. I believe they also have disc brakes. Since you are probably going to have to regear the front it will probably be cheaper to find one of these. They also have the same bolt pattern for the wheels.
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09-26-2009, 12:29 PM	#3
BigBoy70 Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 199 Location: Heart of Dixie User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use not to mention, that some of the waggy rear ends actually have an off-set rear which is something you truly want to avoid
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09-27-2009, 01:30 PM	#4
solenoid bad s-10's brewing Age: 35 Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 89 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I would suggest an explorer 8.8 with custom axles and redrilled drums, cheap and easy, huge axles ,rip off of chevy 12 bolt ,common junkyard find.bullet proof rearennd except for c-clips ,which can be eliminated.Right width to. The waggy amc 20 is almost as tough without having to deal with the bolt pattern, again almost a blatent rip off of the 12 bolt chevy.Depends alot on how hard you play and how much finese you have off road.
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09-28-2009, 12:21 PM	#5
pjg1173 Registered User Age: 36 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 69 Location: jacksonville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I would opt to use the D44 or AMC 20HD out of the waggy IF the diff wasn't offset. I used the D44 out of the waggy I got my front out of. when I regear, change seals, change carriers, ect I just order 2 of everything.
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09-30-2009, 08:29 AM	#6
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I am getting the rear axle out of it. Its a amc 20HD centered. I am getting the front and rear for $300.
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10-05-2009, 10:26 AM	#7
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I decided to run 41'' iroks radial on the street and was wondering would 4.88 gears be fine cause if not i am going to have to get a different axle
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10-05-2009, 11:34 AM	#8
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,314 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use well, an isuzu axle should be able to be geared to lower than 4.88. i havent been able to find anywhere that sells the amc20 any lower, im guessing thats what your talking about b/c the front i found with hardly any searching to 5.38. You can use an earlier or later d 44. so thats what you can use, i guess. I personally would running lower than 4.88 with 41s.
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10-05-2009, 02:27 PM	#9
pjg1173 Registered User Age: 36 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 69 Location: jacksonville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use i have ran 39.5 iroks with 4.88 and the speedo was still 5 mph fast. i don't think that 41's will be that much of a difference. unless you are pushing them with a 4 banger 4.88 puts you close to stock tire and gear ratio, but if you ever plan on going bigger.... might want to just look for a D44.
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10-06-2009, 06:36 PM	#10
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use ok well i found a 12 bolt that is 66 inches wide drum to drum. my dana 44 is 64 1/2 and amc 20 is 61. they came off same jeep. would the 12 bolt line up good with the front.
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10-06-2009, 08:58 PM	#11
BuzzerPB Registered User Age: 34 Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 347 Location: Milwaukie, Or User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use funny i went to the frod D60 with 4:10's and 37" tires and my speedo is right on at 55/60 mph
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10-07-2009, 09:06 AM	#12
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I do not care about the speedo. I care about how it pulls and gain speed on the road. I do not want it to be slugish.
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10-07-2009, 07:00 PM	#13
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use I just picked up an 1996 gm 14 bolt eight lug out of a 2500. I was wondering can i use the 6 lug axle shaft out of an 14 bolt to replace the 8 lug shaft.
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10-07-2009, 07:38 PM	#14
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use does anyone know of a good website to visit that tells you about the i.d. on the chevy 14 bolt cause i cant find a good website?
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10-07-2009, 09:13 PM	#15
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 36 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,609 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use The bolt pattern on a FF 14 bolt has nothing to do with the axle shafts.
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10-07-2009, 09:46 PM	#16
pacepace Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 39 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use well i found a 14 bolt 6 lug but the 8 lug was already pulled so just got it for $75 dollars. I was just wondering if i could take the axle shafts out of the 14 bolt with 6 lug and put them in mine with no problem cause my fsj dana 44 has 6 lug.
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10-07-2009, 10:18 PM	#17
DieselS10 Slightly Over Built Age: 36 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,609 Location: Chelsea, OK User is: OffLine	Re: Best rear axle to use No, there is nothing between the 10.5" FF 14 bolt and the SF 9.5" 14 bolt that will interchange except maybe the lugnuts.
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