91 s10 4wd sas conversion

[DieselS10]

It's hard to say without seeing it.
If you have an angle finder, hook a bungie cord from the pinion yoke to the transfer case yoke and see what the angle is, then check the pinion yoke angle and the transfer case yoke angle and call the place that you seen that double CV setup, they should be able to tell you.

[bouchee2007]

alright thanks for the info

[bouchee2007]

fix one problem to create another, i dropped my t-case to replace the gasket today, with that fixed its one step closer to being finished. only problem is now i cant shift the case. im locked into 4wd, and i cant shift to netral or any other gear for that matter. nothing was changed in the process. i unhooked the shift linkage from the t-case, unbolted the t-case and remove it. replaced the gasket and bolted it back up. i put the shift linkage back on, and now i cant shift it. the only think i can think of is that something is not aligned in the case due to the fact i dont have a front driveshaft installed. does anyone have any sugestions as to why i wouldnt be able to shift? any help would be appreciated.

[96superflow]

hmmm. My dad bought a jeep off of a car lot back in i believe 70 something. One of the first years the full size wagoneer was out, and it was locked into 4wd and wouldn't come out. so before he bought it, he wanted to drive it, he hopped in, put it in drive, held the brake with his left foot and put pressure on the shifter with his right. When the truck started rolling, there was a slight moment where all the pressure was off and it popped out. I would try that. Thats the only thing i can think of. Oh yeah, the jeep never did it again and he only paid like 300 bucks for it and it was basically brand new!!!

[bouchee2007]

ill have to try that, thanks for the info

[bouchee2007]

random question, everything ive read about the j10 pioneer, the truck i pulled my axles from, states that it was a d44 up from and an amc 20 rear, but looking at my rear it looks like a d44 also, any idea's did certain years come with a d44 rear?

[bouchee2007]

found out i have 3.31's , am i going to be able to do anything offraod with a ratio like that?

[Tim99Zr2]

shitty. run it in 4 LO

[bouchee2007]

hows highway driving going to be . i was hoping to do 33's on it

[DieselS10]

Not good!

[96superflow]

You will deff wanna regear. I can say that as for the amc 20 hd rear, its last year was 86 and i cant swear to it but i think its either 82 or 84 for the first year. Any thing else is a dana 44 rear, unless its a j20 and then it could have a d60!!

[bouchee2007]

so is this thing going to be drivable at all, at least for a while?, ive blown all my cash on drive shafts and tires, i dont really dont have much left in reserve for gears.
Is a gear swap something that can be acomplished at the home or is it something that should be sent to a shop?

[bouchee2007]

oh and on a side note, how much can i expect to pay for a quality set of gears, front a rear combo. ive been looking and im seeing anywhere from $150 to $350.
and last but not least. will i need a nother carier, i figure if im gettign new gears i might as well go with something higher, maby 4.88's or something in the low 5's.
any opinions or info would be great.

[DieselS10]

http://www.4lo.com/calc/geartable.htm

Check out that link.

[Tim99Zr2]

yea, i would think you can DD it on 3.31s.

my gears run me around 200 per axle + 50 per install kit.. so around 500-600 for gears. then alot more if you arent doing the install.
personally, i think anyone can get up gears, i do mine by feel, i dont use gauges. my first install (front and rear) took me like 12 hours. then my secong install took me 2 hours.

when i went from 3.55 or w/e was in my dana 30, i had to get a new carrier for my 4.88s, the 4.88 was a thin ring gear, the 3.55 was a thick one. i dont know if youll need a new carrier or not.

if you do highway driving, and 33s, i would go 4.11 - 4.88s in my truck with 4.88s and 33s it ran 5th gear about 3k rpms 70mph. (and i could start out in 4th gear on flat ground)

[bouchee2007]

is a gear swap a difficult thing to do, ive read up on them, but those articles always make it seam easier then it really is.

[Tim99Zr2]

i dont think they are hard.. but some people think they are.

like i said, i do mine by feel.

[96superflow]

If you are using it as your dd you deff wont wanna get anywhere near the 5's for gears. Like tim said, 4.10 to 4.88 will be perfect for that size tire combo. I personally havent done a gear swap my self, but really you dont have to use guages, just some of that gear swap paint to get the contact patch right, i think. Im like you, havent done one yet, so if someone explains it on here really well, i would trust them before i trust it out of a magizine or something. I will however be tackling a gear swaps along with lockers later, probably before or just after i get some 35's.

It should be driveable right now, but in town i wouldn't run it in overdrive. It will put too much stress on the tranny, and if your out highway driving i would only kick it down a gear if you come up on some hills or something. and remember just dont try and dog the piss out of it, thats when you will find out that the tranny might be the weakest link in that situation.

[melon16]

I ran 33's on my blazer for a while with 3.42's.....it was manageable, but it sure wasnt a dragster....

build it and drive it then regear it later on, or swap out axles.

PS---I like this gear/tire calculator WAY better.

http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

[DieselS10]

That's a good one Melon.

[melon16]

I know--I play with it sometimes when I'm bored.....


like what kind of top speed i could get out of my cars without any wind resistance.....lol

my truck would do 201mph.......running away from a strong hurricane.......downhill........lmao

[bouchee2007]

do you guys recomend mounting your own tires, im getting a set of 33's,

[96superflow]

I have access to a tire machine and a balancer, but ill probably go with dyna beeds or something of the sort to balance mine when i buy 35's.

[Tim99Zr2]

you can mount them yourself, i think you put the back of the rim in first.
but may have to take them to balance somewhere. sometimes its easier to pay the pros.

i hand mounted my baja claws and they didnt need one wheel weight and they rode sooo smooth

[bouchee2007]

ok i have the oppurtunity to get a set of super swamper ssr's. a set of 4 there 35's excellent condition for 800$. now i know we went over thsi before and with the gearing i have its going to be rough, but will teh drivetrain handel it untill i can get it regeared? and is it even a good deal.
http://southcoast.craigslist.org/pts/1424457552.html

[96superflow]

I would get um. THey are a good enough price. Just dont expect your truck to be any sort of speed demon, and you will have to run in Low off road.

[bouchee2007]

i know ill run it in low off road, i just wanted to check and make sure im not in danger of breaking anything or damaging teh tranny running that size with the gears i have, il just be gentle with it. thanks for the info, and not to be redundant, but with a 14.5in wide tire be able to be mounted on a 9in wide rim

[DieselS10]

Yep

[96superflow]

yeah man. It will stress your tranny more though i hope you understand that, so save up and gear it as soon as you can.

[bouchee2007]

ok i need opinions, my refund check from school came in and i now have $1500. so do you guys have any oppinions on mickey thompson baja claws? im looking at the 33's

[96superflow]

for that amount you should be able to get those super swampers and regear (if you plan on using about all of it). I personally dont have any experience with the Micky's. I have seen Super Swampers in action and i have to say i love what i see.

[bouchee2007]

well the money is going towards a new frotn and rear driveshaft, tires, and what ever is left goes towards regearing

[96superflow]

superswampers get my vote!!!

[Tim99Zr2]

i really liked my claws, quiet, rode great, worked well off road! id buy another set

[bouchee2007]

well the super swampers got sold, i called yesterday. i found another listing for the claws 5 for 550, still in decent shape, but there 31's is thsi something im going to kick my self for, not getting 33's or 35's?, im new to the whole off roading thing so i havent found out which is a more useful size

[Tim99Zr2]

Quote: Originally Posted by bouchee2007

well the super swampers got sold, i called yesterday. i found another listing for the claws 5 for 550, still in decent shape, but there 31's is thsi something im going to kick my self for, not getting 33's or 35's?, im new to the whole off roading thing so i havent found out which is a more useful size

i wouldnt go smaller than 33s. alot of it depends on the terrain, but 31s dont look big enough. id pass.. i paid like 772 brand new for my 33x12.5x15 claws, but that was 2 yrs ago

if i ever do anything again it will have 33s-35s on it

[96superflow]

nothing smaller than 33s.

[bouchee2007]

well im going to look at the 31's saturday most likely im going to be picking them up, even if i throw them on my spare set of rims. i had origanally bought a good set and a junky set of rims and planned on have two set of tires. one set for the road and every day driving/playing in the mud, and one set for the woods, that way i wouldnt have to worry about poking a stump through the tire. And with some trimming you can fit 35's right?

[96superflow]

yup you should be able too. 31s wont be bad at all with the gearing you have in your axles. I have 31s on my wagoneer and it shits and gets with them. Its got a v8 too thou. ha

[bouchee2007]

[96superflow]

NICE!!! what size you end up getting? i talked to joey about some prices on some pit bull tires, but let me know how they work out for ya!

[BillaksBlazer]

you may want to adjust that shackle angle just a little. You dont want them to flop the wrong way when flexing and bend a spring.

[bouchee2007]

i eneded up going with 33's, there maxxis tires, 33X12.5. i would have gond with something different but there were at the right price range. just over 700$ and adjust it witch way? pitching at a downward slant, towards the back

[bouchee2007]

and i also sent my driveshaft out to be made up, should have it back by thursday, then the battle becomes getting it inspected

[DieselS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by bouchee2007

and adjust it witch way? pitching at a downward slant, towards the back

Move the part mounted to the frame forward.

[bouchee2007]

ok if you look at that picture, that tab that it is mounted to, there is a second mounting hole on it, maby 3 inches forward, would that be to far forward

[DieselS10]

That may be a tad too far, but it's hard to say without seeing it. It may work better there with a slightly longer shackle also.

Those are old springs aren't they? If so that will help if you use the front holes because they will have already settled in.

[bouchee2007]

yeha those spring are around 15 yrs old, alright , i was just hoping i could use the other holes insdead of cutting the mounts off and re doing them. i guess i have next weeks project all ready in line. thanks for the info

[bouchee2007]

and is 200 for a rear driveshaft a rip off?

[DieselS10]

If it's all new I've seen worse on a single front and rear joint shaft. If it's a CV on the front that pretty cheap.