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shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

i am taking off my leaf spring from the shackle however its not a complete circle... does this indicate that my leaf is broken and needs to be welded to the bushing housing? both leaf springs are the same way... also are the bushings from the shackles available to purchase seperately? and would they need to be pressed in? or can i hammer them in...

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

You need to replace the leaf, its not supposed to be half should go all the way arround.

the leaf spring bushings are the same as the frame end. press out old ones press in new.


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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

What year is your truck? I'm surprised you aren't having issues with the leaf spring sitting on the frame the way it is. I'd get new leafs if I was you, and then go from there.


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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

I own a 2000 zr2. Can I get any s10 leafs or are they specific to the zr2 model. No chance of welding these just to make it mobile for now?
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wow, more pics please. if i am seeing what i think i am seeing, then i am surprised you did not have something more serious happen.

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cant weld to spring steel

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

Do I need specific zr2 springs seeing as how they sit higer than regular s10s?
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Do I need specific zr2 springs seeing as how they sit higer than regular s10s?
as far as i know, yes

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

Think its possible to use a regular 4x4 s10 leaf and then add my zr2 leafs to it seeing as how I just need the main one? Ive also been reading that silverado leafs will work too? What do u guys think I should do? Heading to junkyards tomorow
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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

Zr2 trucks run standard s10 springs. Only blazer zr2s got actual lift springs in the rear.

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oh thanks lol.spring steel will also crack and break if it gets heated too wont it.

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

^^^^WTF??? Spammish much?



Any ways...as stated, pickups use the same leafs as non Z's. So look for Z85 RPO codes or even the better RPO code...forget it off hand. But if it's Z83, stay away!!! The Z85 was common in extended cabs and long bed s-10's.


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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

That picture isnt the greatest But some Helper Springs are shaped like that!!! The Leaf Spring that attatches to the shackle has an eye for a bushing & the bolt goes threw that... If thats the main spring in the pic Then get a ride to the junkyard & go get a set of springs Or order a set off JC Whittney or some place... KC Spring will hook ya up too!!! More pics would help LoL
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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

It is the main leaf that connects to the shackle. Whats the reason behind staying away from z83 and what is z85? Just the grading im sure? Thanks for the help by the way
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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

The RPO's in the glove box denote suspension packages.

z83-soft suspension
z85- heavy duty suspension
zq8- sporty suspension, 1.5" drop from normal springs.


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oh thanks lol.spring steel will also crack and break if it gets heated too wont it.
no it will just loose all its toughness and then most likely brake over time/loose its shape.

spring steel is a high carbon steel that is quenched then tempered. The tempering process they use is complex and creates a very tough structure. There is name for it but I forget it right now.

now it is posible to weld it but creates a very brittle structure in the HAZ because of the high carbon base metal. now you could anneal it and create a more dutile structure in that spot which may last alittle longer.

I wouldnt weld or heat any spring on a road vehicle.

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Zr2 trucks run standard s10 springs. Only blazer zr2s got actual lift springs in the rear.
ah, then the springs i have seen used in the past must have been from a zr2 blazer. thanks for the info

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

No, there was an actual spam post. It's been deleted now. But it was an actual member, not a new account.


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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

There was i moved it.

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Re: shackle lifting...leaf spring broken?

Ok so update post. Found z85 leafs. Pretty pricey from a junker but ****it. So I got shackles and shocks in... didnt lift as much as I thought ill post pics in a bit. So I was thinking add a leaf. Can I use another leaf from my old broken set or do the leafs u buy on ebay have diff length and stifness....
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