10" of lift?

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 10:04 AM

im trying to figure out a good way to get the most lift possibly for my truck without going to SAS ( its my new daily driver so i cant have it out of commission for to long) so far what i found is:

Superlift 6" lift kit for ZR2/ Highrider (i notice this doesnt come with keys for torsion bars)

2" keys and shackles

2" body lift

now if i do this, will i be able to run 33x13.50 comfortably and still have a nice ride? and if i decide one day i want to run 35s will they fit with out rubbing? (i wont be doing any 4 wheeling, its just for show....)

Sammytheorangutan · 10-28-2009, 11:15 AM

You do NOT want aftermarket Tbar keys unless your Tbars are badly sagging. (In that case, buy new Tbars.) You don't want to lift the front of your truck more than about 1.5" (from stock) using the Tbars unless you want to replace front end parts on a regular basis.

You can get about 9.5" of lift with a stock Tbar crank (1.5" plus shackles or AAL for the rear), 2" body lift and SL6. With that lift, 33x10.50s should be easy (depending on the backspacing of your choice of wheels). 33x13.50s might be pushing it. 35s "should" fit unless you plan on flexing depending on the width. Keep in mind that the wider the tire, the more the truck has to work to turn it. The stock suspension/steering wasn't made for big tires. IMHO, a 33x10.50 or 33x12.50 is about max you should run without the added strength of a solid front axle.

For what you'll spend on the lift(s) and regearing, it would be cheaper to go SFA. I think the only thing you'll lose is ABS (but don't quote me on that).

96superflow · 10-28-2009, 01:17 PM

ill just say one thing. 10" of lift out of the IFS is stupid. Hope i dont offend you by saying that.

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow

ill just say one thing. 10" of lift out of the IFS is stupid. Hope i dont offend you by saying that.

no sir, point well taken, i just wanted to see what everyone could offer to me.

the kit is about 2k for the superlift. then another 100 bucks or so for the body lift. plus the cost of labor with will probably run 75-80/hr.

id like to do a SAS but i dont have any welding skills. i can fab, but just cant weld, i dont have a clue of how to do it or whats consider a good weld or what type of welder is needed for a SAS. and on top of that i wouldnt know which type of axles to get, what to look for and what other parts i would. i have done research on SAS in the past, but still i draw a blank... unless i had someone sit there and point out and say ah you need this and you need that and your going to need two of them, id be barking up the wrong tree....

and my other thing about a SAS if i did it, i think it would be a waste of time to just run 33s on that type of set up id say the smallest tire id run would be a 35...

96superflow · 10-28-2009, 03:30 PM

i only have about 1000 in my truck right now and thats all the axles and everything. 2k is too much to lift it when it is still inferior. I wanted mine for articulation purposes, as well as strengthen it. i plan on running 35s, but i have 2 sets of 33s one mud, one allterrain, they were free. thats the other reason im going with them first.

992drjimmy · 10-28-2009, 03:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

im trying to figure out a good way to get the most lift possibly for my truck without going to SAS ( its my new daily driver so i cant have it out of commission for to long) so far what i found is:

Superlift 6" lift kit for ZR2/ Highrider (i notice this doesnt come with keys for torsion bars)

2" keys and shackles

2" body lift

now if i do this, will i be able to run 33x13.50 comfortably and still have a nice ride? and if i decide one day i want to run 35s will they fit with out rubbing? (i wont be doing any 4 wheeling, its just for show....)

If all you plan to do is street drive for looks, The superlift is supposed to be a good lift.
You dont need the keys, They will justtear up your suspension.
When you do the body lift, Go with a 3" for a first gen truck.
If you are going to do a sas, i wouldnt sacrafice a zr2. Start with a reg 4x4.

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 04:03 PM

good points from both of you guys. ok, im setting down to 33x12.50x15, their cheaper.. :-D .... now for the lift..i think for now i will do the 6" lift with a 3" body lift and leave my tbars alone. but if i cant get the kit for less than 1500, then im going to go the SAS. i forgot i had a friend that built a fullsize blazer that currently sits on 44 boggers. im sure he'd be more than welling to help me out being as he's a truck nut from hell...

SnoMan · 10-28-2009, 05:05 PM

I say go with the SFA. Stronger, cheaper and personally looks cooler cuz a 3 inch bl looks stupid IMO.

96superflow · 10-28-2009, 05:10 PM

thats the friend to have. Hopefully his welding skills are up to par.

992drjimmy · 10-28-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by SnoMan

I say go with the SFA. Stronger, cheaper and personally looks cooler cuz a 3 inch bl looks stupid IMO.

What exactly looks so stupid about the 3" bodylift. Heres mine.

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

What exactly looks so stupid about the 3" bodylift. Heres mine.

holy shit! i love it....what kind of wheels do you have?

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 07:45 PM

this is the monster my friend nick built, he does this shit for a living, works for a shop here in f'burg called showcase

SnoMan · 10-28-2009, 07:57 PM

Its not that they are always stupid, like most people put nerf tubes on to cover the frame like i plan to do when i do my 2 inch bl. But for me personally a 3 inch bl just shows to much frame. Dont get me wrong your truck looks real nice, but its in proportion. from ur sig u have 5 in the suspension also. like trucks with just a 3 inch bl dont look to hot

992drjimmy · 10-28-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

holy shit! i love it....what kind of wheels do you have?

LOL you are the one of the few that say they like the wheels. They are some old prime brand wheels from the 90's. They are 15x9. I got them real cheap for the size. Plus i could use stock lug nuts. I bought and lifted this truck on very tight budget. Looking for deals on parts. Got the body lift about 3-4 years ago at a garage sale complete for $10 bucks, figured for that price one day id use it. Got the wheels for 75. Truck for 900 plus 800 for rebuilt tranny including install and 2 year 24k warranty. I do need new tires. The ones i have only got about15-20%tread and bad wear pattern from previous owner running bad alignment.

992drjimmy · 10-28-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

this is the monster my friend nick built, he does this shit for a living, works for a shop here in f'burg called showcase

That truck is AWESOME. Bet the MPG's suck. LOL. I had a 79 silverado about 6 years ago with 35's. If i babied it i got maybe 10mpg. Maybe....

Would love to sas my 2wd. I found a good parts blazer for tranny and xfer case with factory floor shift xfer case. Seems hard to find that in a second gen truck.

GeorgesBlazah · 10-28-2009, 08:33 PM

SFA is only cheaper if you can do the work yourself and if your not planning on going offroad, I dont see why you are wasting your money on it.

Everyone that says "GO SFA!!1 GO SFA!!111" knows that once you complete the SFA its still not done and needs to be tweaked some. Hlaf of the rides done in the SFA section werent perfect on the first try and things were tweaked. I am not saying that they are POS`s, just stating an observation.

With an IFS lift you are getting a working and driving like it should truck at the end. All of the engineering has been done already and you dont need to tweak anything.

6in SL + 2in body should net you plenty of clearence with 33x12.5 tires with the right BSed wheel. Specially if your staying on the street, you dont hafto worry about shit. Upgrading later to 35s? Better bring out the sawzall.

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

SFA is only cheaper if you can do the work yourself and if your not planning on going offroad, I dont see why you are wasting your money on it.

Everyone that says "GO SFA!!1 GO SFA!!111" knows that once you complete the SFA its still not done and needs to be tweaked some. Hlaf of the rides done in the SFA section werent perfect on the first try and things were tweaked. I am not saying that they are POS`s, just stating an observation.

With an IFS lift you are getting a working and driving like it should truck at the end. All of the engineering has been done already and you dont need to tweak anything.

6in SL + 2in body should net you plenty of clearence with 33x12.5 tires with the right BSed wheel. Specially if your staying on the street, you dont hafto worry about shit. Upgrading later to 35s? Better bring out the sawzall.

lol thanks Geroge.... but no Sawzall lol...i like my truck looking clean...and i dont have the straightest cut without a guide.

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

LOL you are the one of the few that say they like the wheels. They are some old prime brand wheels from the 90's. They are 15x9. I got them real cheap for the size. Plus i could use stock lug nuts. I bought and lifted this truck on very tight budget. Looking for deals on parts. Got the body lift about 3-4 years ago at a garage sale complete for $10 bucks, figured for that price one day id use it. Got the wheels for 75. Truck for 900 plus 800 for rebuilt tranny including install and 2 year 24k warranty. I do need new tires. The ones i have only got about15-20%tread and bad wear pattern from previous owner running bad alignment.

im old school man, i like them 80's-90's style wheels lol..for some odd reason...

now with the first gen 3" body lift, wont i need other things like a bumper adapter to lift it up the additional 3"s and something for the steering? im all about custom work but i like to know whats a head of me...

yeah my friend nicks's rig is pretty out there, he's got a ton of hours into it and is still tweaking it till this day.. a lot of "borrowed parts" i think he has like 26" or more of lift i cant remember what he said...

VortecSonoma · 10-28-2009, 10:53 PM

heres the wheels im looking at buying not a bad price not sure about the back spacing though.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AE...4/?image=large

and the tires.... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...sw=false&cs=33 or

http://www.jcwhitney.com/jcwhitney/product.jcw?nval=1101016152&statenval=1101016152&p roductId=2011852&shopid=100001&pageid=13&skuId=359 238&id=3326199

GeorgesBlazah · 10-28-2009, 11:15 PM

That backspacing is gonna rub like a mofo, its 3.25

96superflow · 10-29-2009, 12:09 AM

George makes a good point. If you dont mind having your truck down for an amount of time (excluding billaksblazer haha, doin it in a weekend doesnt count) and you can do the work yourself, its a helluva lot cheaper. And you will be tweaking it to get it right as with any custom suspension.

I weighted the options cause before i went solid axle, i was just going to add a ifs lift to mine, but the more i looked into it the more i figured out i needed something more dependable for what i do. I also cant justify spend just as much on a suspension lift as i did for the entire truck!!! (only paid 2450 for it about 3yrs ago)

VortecSonoma · 10-29-2009, 07:20 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah

That backspacing is gonna rub like a mofo, its 3.25

ah ok ill see if i can find wheels with 6" back spacing then.

992drjimmy · 10-29-2009, 11:37 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

im old school man, i like them 80's-90's style wheels lol..for some odd reason...

now with the first gen 3" body lift, wont i need other things like a bumper adapter to lift it up the additional 3"s and something for the steering? im all about custom work but i like to know whats a head of me...

yeah my friend nicks's rig is pretty out there, he's got a ton of hours into it and is still tweaking it till this day.. a lot of "borrowed parts" i think he has like 26" or more of lift i cant remember what he said...

You will not have to modify the steering at all. You will need 4 extra blocks to lift the fron bumper, and 2 extra for the rear. Or other way to fab rear brackets. Im not a fabber and i figured it out easily.

GeorgesBlazah · 10-29-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

ah ok ill see if i can find wheels with 6" back spacing then.

Id look for something from 4.5 -5.5. 5in would be ideal IMO

992drjimmy · 10-29-2009, 01:37 PM

yeah 4.5 woulld be perfect. Itll keep the bigger tires out of the frame and give a little wider stance.

VortecSonoma · 10-29-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

yeah 4.5 woulld be perfect. Itll keep the bigger tires out of the frame and give a little wider stance.

thats what im looking for! hoping i can find the same design just different backspacing...

VortecSonoma · 10-29-2009, 08:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

You will not have to modify the steering at all. You will need 4 extra blocks to lift the fron bumper, and 2 extra for the rear. Or other way to fab rear brackets. Im not a fabber and i figured it out easily.

sorry to sound like a dip shit, but what do you mean by blocks and how to i put those in...

Sammytheorangutan · 10-29-2009, 09:04 PM

Find some 3"x3" mild steel (or aluminum) square tubing. Cut off sections about 4" long. Put those between the bumper and the frame (where the bumper mounts). You might need longer bolts.

neo71665 · 10-29-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

lol thanks Geroge.... but no Sawzall lol...i like my truck looking clean...and i dont have the straightest cut without a guide.

Use a cutoff wheel. I sectioned 2 inches out the front and pie cut 1.5 out of the rear. Then welded everything back up. I still need to finish with a skim coat of bondo and sand it smooth. I like my stuff to look factory.

Done a 3" on mine. The steering was fine. I had to extend the gas filler and didn't have to but extended the 4x4 shifter so it looked factory. The bumpers are custom ones I made but I did have to raise them. Well raised the rear, still working on the front so it was more of a redesign the mounting.

992drjimmy · 10-29-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

sorry to sound like a dip shit, but what do you mean by blocks and how to i put those in...

The front bumper actually sits on mounts kind like the body does. The lift block go on the frame mounts and the bumper sits on them.

VortecSonoma · 10-30-2009, 08:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

The front bumper actually sits on mounts kind like the body does. The lift block go on the frame mounts and the bumper sits on them.

ok gotcha thanks. im ordering the body lift kit right now!

VortecSonoma · 10-30-2009, 09:04 PM

i got two links here, first one is a kit for a 1994 s-series zr2 3" BL and the other one is a 3" BL kit for a 83-93...which would will work better...

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...1.32354.0.0.0?

or

http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...1.32354.0.0.0?

992drjimmy · 10-30-2009, 11:09 PM

Get the cheaper one. But... I believe you can get it cheaper from summit racing or of course ebay.

992drjimmy · 10-30-2009, 11:14 PM

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-7853300/

Here ya go. You will need to get some extra blocks for the bumper, or get some square tubing like a hitch is made of and cut some 3 inch legths for the bumer and get a few more bolts from the hardware.
No big deal though.

VortecSonoma · 10-31-2009, 12:35 AM

Thanks 992drjimmy! i like the price savings! i actually made the blocks today and got some bolts!

992drjimmy · 10-31-2009, 01:22 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

Thanks 992drjimmy! i like the price savings! i actually made the blocks today and got some bolts!

Depending on how you do the rear, I used blocks on the rear bumper as well and cut the stock brackets in half. Ive got a pic if you need. I cant weld too good, so that was easiest for me to do. I didnt extend the filler hose. I just disconnected it from the body and it works ok like that.
Your neg battery cable will be real close, but mine worked ok, although theres not really any slack in it now. Just watch you brake lines through the wheel wells when you lift the body. If your steering feels like it has a slight bind. Take the steering shaft out and reinstall it. For some reason that takes care of it. Took me about 6 hours by myself. Also a good time to do electric fan. Or if you plan to down the road, take the lower shroud out. IF you are going to leave it, I just remembered you will need to get some nuts and bolts and some 3" sleeves for them so youcan space the shrouds apart. I have camaro e-fan. So id forgotten about that part.

meadman · 10-31-2009, 01:44 PM

Wow that is a lot of info!!! lost my sign on and stuff a while back so i started a new one so i could get info and post. i want to start working on lifting my 2000 zr2 widestance.... looks like i need to re-think some of my options!!

***orangesonoma*** · 10-31-2009, 04:13 PM

zr2 have a wider fender opening then regular s-series so trimming may not be needed for 33's

i have seen plenty of zr2s on 33's with nothing more then a body lift and a t-bar crank..and shackles

992drjimmy · 10-31-2009, 06:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma

zr2 have a wider fender opening then regular s-series so trimming may not be needed for 33's

i have seen plenty of zr2s on 33's with nothing more then a body lift and a t-bar crank..and shackles

Yes ive seen this once. Lifted S10 are RARE where i live. I mean R A R E!!!!!

Tim99Zr2 · 10-31-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by orangesonoma

zr2 have a wider fender opening then regular s-series so trimming may not be needed for 33's

i have seen plenty of zr2s on 33's with nothing more then a body lift and a t-bar crank..and shackles

werd, thats how i rolled, i cut the shit out of my front fenders thou

GeorgesBlazah · 10-31-2009, 08:07 PM

hmmm I didn't even notice you had a Z. I have seen plenty of Zs with a BL, tbar and trimming with 33x10.5sand it looks pretty damn good.

VortecSonoma · 11-01-2009, 07:05 AM

Thanks guys for all the info.

distortedzr2 · 11-02-2009, 03:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

im trying to figure out a good way to get the most lift possibly for my truck without going to SAS ( its my new daily driver so i cant have it out of commission for to long) so far what i found is:

Superlift 6" lift kit for ZR2/ Highrider (i notice this doesnt come with keys for torsion bars)

2" keys and shackles

2" body lift

now if i do this, will i be able to run 33x13.50 comfortably and still have a nice ride? and if i decide one day i want to run 35s will they fit with out rubbing? (i wont be doing any 4 wheeling, its just for show....)

2nd the no go for the torsion keys.

On a Zr2 the 6'' superlift alone is fine with 33's.

The width of the tire will determine the BS you need but keep in mind IFS does NOT like little backspacing.

If you "decide one day you want to run 35s" add the 2'' body.

BillaksBlazer · 11-03-2009, 01:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow

George makes a good point. If you dont mind having your truck down for an amount of time (excluding billaksblazer haha, doin it in a weekend doesnt count) and you can do the work yourself, its a helluva lot cheaper. And you will be tweaking it to get it right as with any custom suspension.

I weighted the options cause before i went solid axle, i was just going to add a ifs lift to mine, but the more i looked into it the more i figured out i needed something more dependable for what i do. I also cant justify spend just as much on a suspension lift as i did for the entire truck!!! (only paid 2450 for it about 3yrs ago)

There is nothing wrong with doing a sfa in a weekend LOL haha

VortecSonoma · 11-03-2009, 07:40 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by BillaksBlazer

There is nothing wrong with doing a sfa in a weekend LOL haha

come do mine in a weekend ill pay for the cost of your trip... hahaha

992drjimmy · 11-03-2009, 09:30 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma

come do mine in a weekend ill pay for the cost of your trip... hahaha

Count me in on that as well.

96superflow · 11-03-2009, 10:08 PM

lol. Nope there aint nothing wrong with it, but after working on mine, i would have been hitting the shit out off everything with a sledge hammer!!!

BillaksBlazer · 11-04-2009, 06:11 PM

there was a BFH and a few holes in the wall when we were done. We worked quick but it was for the best.

96superflow · 11-06-2009, 10:48 PM

yeah man, the main difference is that yours it your daily, mine is just a wheeler. Im just takin my time! ha. and that college budget kills it too.

BillaksBlazer · 11-07-2009, 08:50 PM

i really didnt spend that much on mine. the only things that i did was gears and lockers. Im glad i did it though, everybody who wheels knows my blazer. For the guys who want me to do theirs pay for the labor the parts and the beer, and have all the tools there and im game.

10-28-2009, 10:04 AM	#1
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	10" of lift? im trying to figure out a good way to get the most lift possibly for my truck without going to SAS ( its my new daily driver so i cant have it out of commission for to long) so far what i found is: Superlift 6" lift kit for ZR2/ Highrider (i notice this doesnt come with keys for torsion bars) 2" keys and shackles 2" body lift now if i do this, will i be able to run 33x13.50 comfortably and still have a nice ride? and if i decide one day i want to run 35s will they fit with out rubbing? (i wont be doing any 4 wheeling, its just for show....)
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10-28-2009, 11:15 AM	#2
Sammytheorangutan Registered User Age: 42 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 559 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? You do NOT want aftermarket Tbar keys unless your Tbars are badly sagging. (In that case, buy new Tbars.) You don't want to lift the front of your truck more than about 1.5" (from stock) using the Tbars unless you want to replace front end parts on a regular basis. You can get about 9.5" of lift with a stock Tbar crank (1.5" plus shackles or AAL for the rear), 2" body lift and SL6. With that lift, 33x10.50s should be easy (depending on the backspacing of your choice of wheels). 33x13.50s might be pushing it. 35s "should" fit unless you plan on flexing depending on the width. Keep in mind that the wider the tire, the more the truck has to work to turn it. The stock suspension/steering wasn't made for big tires. IMHO, a 33x10.50 or 33x12.50 is about max you should run without the added strength of a solid front axle. For what you'll spend on the lift(s) and regearing, it would be cheaper to go SFA. I think the only thing you'll lose is ABS (but don't quote me on that).
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10-28-2009, 01:17 PM	#3
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? ill just say one thing. 10" of lift out of the IFS is stupid. Hope i dont offend you by saying that.
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10-28-2009, 03:17 PM	#4
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 96superflow ill just say one thing. 10" of lift out of the IFS is stupid. Hope i dont offend you by saying that. no sir, point well taken, i just wanted to see what everyone could offer to me. the kit is about 2k for the superlift. then another 100 bucks or so for the body lift. plus the cost of labor with will probably run 75-80/hr. id like to do a SAS but i dont have any welding skills. i can fab, but just cant weld, i dont have a clue of how to do it or whats consider a good weld or what type of welder is needed for a SAS. and on top of that i wouldnt know which type of axles to get, what to look for and what other parts i would. i have done research on SAS in the past, but still i draw a blank... unless i had someone sit there and point out and say ah you need this and you need that and your going to need two of them, id be barking up the wrong tree.... and my other thing about a SAS if i did it, i think it would be a waste of time to just run 33s on that type of set up id say the smallest tire id run would be a 35... Last edited by VortecSonoma : 10-28-2009 at 03:19 PM.
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10-28-2009, 03:30 PM	#5
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? i only have about 1000 in my truck right now and thats all the axles and everything. 2k is too much to lift it when it is still inferior. I wanted mine for articulation purposes, as well as strengthen it. i plan on running 35s, but i have 2 sets of 33s one mud, one allterrain, they were free. thats the other reason im going with them first.
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10-28-2009, 03:46 PM	#6
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma im trying to figure out a good way to get the most lift possibly for my truck without going to SAS ( its my new daily driver so i cant have it out of commission for to long) so far what i found is: Superlift 6" lift kit for ZR2/ Highrider (i notice this doesnt come with keys for torsion bars) 2" keys and shackles 2" body lift now if i do this, will i be able to run 33x13.50 comfortably and still have a nice ride? and if i decide one day i want to run 35s will they fit with out rubbing? (i wont be doing any 4 wheeling, its just for show....) If all you plan to do is street drive for looks, The superlift is supposed to be a good lift. You dont need the keys, They will justtear up your suspension. When you do the body lift, Go with a 3" for a first gen truck. If you are going to do a sas, i wouldnt sacrafice a zr2. Start with a reg 4x4.
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10-28-2009, 04:03 PM	#7
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? good points from both of you guys. ok, im setting down to 33x12.50x15, their cheaper.. :-D .... now for the lift..i think for now i will do the 6" lift with a 3" body lift and leave my tbars alone. but if i cant get the kit for less than 1500, then im going to go the SAS. i forgot i had a friend that built a fullsize blazer that currently sits on 44 boggers. im sure he'd be more than welling to help me out being as he's a truck nut from hell...
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10-28-2009, 05:05 PM	#8
SnoMan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Hilton NY User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? I say go with the SFA. Stronger, cheaper and personally looks cooler cuz a 3 inch bl looks stupid IMO.
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10-28-2009, 05:10 PM	#9
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? thats the friend to have. Hopefully his welding skills are up to par.
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10-28-2009, 06:03 PM	#10
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by SnoMan I say go with the SFA. Stronger, cheaper and personally looks cooler cuz a 3 inch bl looks stupid IMO. What exactly looks so stupid about the 3" bodylift. Heres mine.
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10-28-2009, 07:34 PM	#11
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy What exactly looks so stupid about the 3" bodylift. Heres mine. holy shit! i love it....what kind of wheels do you have?
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10-28-2009, 07:45 PM	#12
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? this is the monster my friend nick built, he does this shit for a living, works for a shop here in f'burg called showcase
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10-28-2009, 07:57 PM	#13
SnoMan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Hilton NY User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Its not that they are always stupid, like most people put nerf tubes on to cover the frame like i plan to do when i do my 2 inch bl. But for me personally a 3 inch bl just shows to much frame. Dont get me wrong your truck looks real nice, but its in proportion. from ur sig u have 5 in the suspension also. like trucks with just a 3 inch bl dont look to hot
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10-28-2009, 08:03 PM	#14
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma holy shit! i love it....what kind of wheels do you have? LOL you are the one of the few that say they like the wheels. They are some old prime brand wheels from the 90's. They are 15x9. I got them real cheap for the size. Plus i could use stock lug nuts. I bought and lifted this truck on very tight budget. Looking for deals on parts. Got the body lift about 3-4 years ago at a garage sale complete for $10 bucks, figured for that price one day id use it. Got the wheels for 75. Truck for 900 plus 800 for rebuilt tranny including install and 2 year 24k warranty. I do need new tires. The ones i have only got about15-20%tread and bad wear pattern from previous owner running bad alignment.
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10-28-2009, 08:05 PM	#15
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma this is the monster my friend nick built, he does this shit for a living, works for a shop here in f'burg called showcase That truck is AWESOME. Bet the MPG's suck. LOL. I had a 79 silverado about 6 years ago with 35's. If i babied it i got maybe 10mpg. Maybe.... Would love to sas my 2wd. I found a good parts blazer for tranny and xfer case with factory floor shift xfer case. Seems hard to find that in a second gen truck.
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10-28-2009, 08:33 PM	#16
GeorgesBlazah Slap my meat on your pita Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,215 Location: south jersey User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? SFA is only cheaper if you can do the work yourself and if your not planning on going offroad, I dont see why you are wasting your money on it. Everyone that says "GO SFA!!1 GO SFA!!111" knows that once you complete the SFA its still not done and needs to be tweaked some. Hlaf of the rides done in the SFA section werent perfect on the first try and things were tweaked. I am not saying that they are POS`s, just stating an observation. With an IFS lift you are getting a working and driving like it should truck at the end. All of the engineering has been done already and you dont need to tweak anything. 6in SL + 2in body should net you plenty of clearence with 33x12.5 tires with the right BSed wheel. Specially if your staying on the street, you dont hafto worry about shit. Upgrading later to 35s? Better bring out the sawzall.
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10-28-2009, 09:50 PM	#17
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah SFA is only cheaper if you can do the work yourself and if your not planning on going offroad, I dont see why you are wasting your money on it. Everyone that says "GO SFA!!1 GO SFA!!111" knows that once you complete the SFA its still not done and needs to be tweaked some. Hlaf of the rides done in the SFA section werent perfect on the first try and things were tweaked. I am not saying that they are POS`s, just stating an observation. With an IFS lift you are getting a working and driving like it should truck at the end. All of the engineering has been done already and you dont need to tweak anything. 6in SL + 2in body should net you plenty of clearence with 33x12.5 tires with the right BSed wheel. Specially if your staying on the street, you dont hafto worry about shit. Upgrading later to 35s? Better bring out the sawzall. lol thanks Geroge.... but no Sawzall lol...i like my truck looking clean...and i dont have the straightest cut without a guide.
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10-28-2009, 09:53 PM	#18
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy LOL you are the one of the few that say they like the wheels. They are some old prime brand wheels from the 90's. They are 15x9. I got them real cheap for the size. Plus i could use stock lug nuts. I bought and lifted this truck on very tight budget. Looking for deals on parts. Got the body lift about 3-4 years ago at a garage sale complete for $10 bucks, figured for that price one day id use it. Got the wheels for 75. Truck for 900 plus 800 for rebuilt tranny including install and 2 year 24k warranty. I do need new tires. The ones i have only got about15-20%tread and bad wear pattern from previous owner running bad alignment. im old school man, i like them 80's-90's style wheels lol..for some odd reason... now with the first gen 3" body lift, wont i need other things like a bumper adapter to lift it up the additional 3"s and something for the steering? im all about custom work but i like to know whats a head of me... yeah my friend nicks's rig is pretty out there, he's got a ton of hours into it and is still tweaking it till this day.. a lot of "borrowed parts" i think he has like 26" or more of lift i cant remember what he said...
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10-28-2009, 10:53 PM	#19
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? heres the wheels im looking at buying not a bad price not sure about the back spacing though.. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/AE...4/?image=large and the tires.... http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...sw=false&cs=33 or http://www.jcwhitney.com/jcwhitney/product.jcw?nval=1101016152&statenval=1101016152&p roductId=2011852&shopid=100001&pageid=13&skuId=359 238&id=3326199 Last edited by VortecSonoma : 10-28-2009 at 10:55 PM.
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10-28-2009, 11:15 PM	#20
GeorgesBlazah Slap my meat on your pita Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,215 Location: south jersey User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? That backspacing is gonna rub like a mofo, its 3.25
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10-29-2009, 12:09 AM	#21
96superflow Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 725 Location: Moyock/Greenville, NC User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? George makes a good point. If you dont mind having your truck down for an amount of time (excluding billaksblazer haha, doin it in a weekend doesnt count) and you can do the work yourself, its a helluva lot cheaper. And you will be tweaking it to get it right as with any custom suspension. I weighted the options cause before i went solid axle, i was just going to add a ifs lift to mine, but the more i looked into it the more i figured out i needed something more dependable for what i do. I also cant justify spend just as much on a suspension lift as i did for the entire truck!!! (only paid 2450 for it about 3yrs ago)
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10-29-2009, 07:20 AM	#22
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by GeorgesBlazah That backspacing is gonna rub like a mofo, its 3.25 ah ok ill see if i can find wheels with 6" back spacing then.
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10-29-2009, 11:37 AM	#23
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma im old school man, i like them 80's-90's style wheels lol..for some odd reason... now with the first gen 3" body lift, wont i need other things like a bumper adapter to lift it up the additional 3"s and something for the steering? im all about custom work but i like to know whats a head of me... yeah my friend nicks's rig is pretty out there, he's got a ton of hours into it and is still tweaking it till this day.. a lot of "borrowed parts" i think he has like 26" or more of lift i cant remember what he said... You will not have to modify the steering at all. You will need 4 extra blocks to lift the fron bumper, and 2 extra for the rear. Or other way to fab rear brackets. Im not a fabber and i figured it out easily.
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10-29-2009, 12:09 PM	#24
GeorgesBlazah Slap my meat on your pita Age: 24 Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 7,215 Location: south jersey User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma ah ok ill see if i can find wheels with 6" back spacing then. Id look for something from 4.5 -5.5. 5in would be ideal IMO
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10-29-2009, 01:37 PM	#25
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? yeah 4.5 woulld be perfect. Itll keep the bigger tires out of the frame and give a little wider stance.
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10-29-2009, 08:27 PM	#26
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy yeah 4.5 woulld be perfect. Itll keep the bigger tires out of the frame and give a little wider stance. thats what im looking for! hoping i can find the same design just different backspacing...
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10-29-2009, 08:28 PM	#27
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy You will not have to modify the steering at all. You will need 4 extra blocks to lift the fron bumper, and 2 extra for the rear. Or other way to fab rear brackets. Im not a fabber and i figured it out easily. sorry to sound like a dip shit, but what do you mean by blocks and how to i put those in...
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10-29-2009, 09:04 PM	#28
Sammytheorangutan Registered User Age: 42 Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 559 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Find some 3"x3" mild steel (or aluminum) square tubing. Cut off sections about 4" long. Put those between the bumper and the frame (where the bumper mounts). You might need longer bolts.
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10-29-2009, 09:19 PM	#29
neo71665 4x4 v6 blazer Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,012 Location: rison arkansas User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma lol thanks Geroge.... but no Sawzall lol...i like my truck looking clean...and i dont have the straightest cut without a guide. Use a cutoff wheel. I sectioned 2 inches out the front and pie cut 1.5 out of the rear. Then welded everything back up. I still need to finish with a skim coat of bondo and sand it smooth. I like my stuff to look factory. Done a 3" on mine. The steering was fine. I had to extend the gas filler and didn't have to but extended the 4x4 shifter so it looked factory. The bumpers are custom ones I made but I did have to raise them. Well raised the rear, still working on the front so it was more of a redesign the mounting. Last edited by neo71665 : 10-29-2009 at 09:21 PM.
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10-29-2009, 10:34 PM	#30
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by VortecSonoma sorry to sound like a dip shit, but what do you mean by blocks and how to i put those in... The front bumper actually sits on mounts kind like the body does. The lift block go on the frame mounts and the bumper sits on them.
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10-30-2009, 08:54 PM	#31
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy The front bumper actually sits on mounts kind like the body does. The lift block go on the frame mounts and the bumper sits on them. ok gotcha thanks. im ordering the body lift kit right now!
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10-30-2009, 09:04 PM	#32
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? i got two links here, first one is a kit for a 1994 s-series zr2 3" BL and the other one is a 3" BL kit for a 83-93...which would will work better... http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...1.32354.0.0.0? or http://www.shopatron.com/products/pr...1.32354.0.0.0?
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10-30-2009, 11:09 PM	#33
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Get the cheaper one. But... I believe you can get it cheaper from summit racing or of course ebay.
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10-30-2009, 11:14 PM	#34
992drjimmy Registered User Age: 38 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,155 Location: Decatur INDIANA User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-7853300/ Here ya go. You will need to get some extra blocks for the bumper, or get some square tubing like a hitch is made of and cut some 3 inch legths for the bumer and get a few more bolts from the hardware. No big deal though.
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10-31-2009, 12:35 AM	#35
VortecSonoma Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 579 Location: Fredericksburg,Va User is: OffLine	Re: 10" of lift? Thanks 992drjimmy! i like the price savings! i actually made the blocks today and got some bolts!
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