Lift Is In

[alarm_the_alarm]

im not sure on what the total list is for his truck. I know hes gonna buy it back u can make alot parting that truck out.

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

What other mods should i get/do next. i Have lots of ideas just dont know what i want to do next.

I was thinking do a pre runner push bar up front with 2 PIAA lights. Im gonna do more lift in the spring i know that for sure.

Tail Lights? Headlights? Paint the top half Black? All mods id like to do that are fairly cheap

Prerunner front bumper with offroad HID lights, hell yeah.

Eh, leave taillgihts/headlights alone BUT you can upgrade to HID light on low beam and as for bulbs, change them out to LED and 3rd brake light cover bulbs as well, more brighter and safer at night.

I wouldn't paint top half black, it looks real good as is now.

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea. im def gonna do the prerunner bumper i found one that i realy like on offroad warehouse.

Im gonna so LED tails and i have to do something about the 3rd brake light... I got bored so i took it out and murrdered it out with black spray paint(it doesnt look good) Id like to get clear turn signals for sure tho i dont like the yellow, i spray tinted my and they didnt turn out very good ended up taking most of it off with so paint thinner...

[alarm_the_alarm]

BTW i dont think iv seen WHAT?'s truck. u wanna post some pics of it in here

[alarm_the_alarm]

New Pics Finally it was sunny out so i cleaned and cleaned my truck so it looks niice with a new coat of wax.









MINI FLEX HAHAHA







Thats enough whoring for me

[twistedsmily]

does it rub at all, nice lookin truck,

[alarm_the_alarm]

Quote: Originally Posted by twistedsmily

does it rub at all, nice lookin truck,

Thanks Man.

It only rubs if i hit the drive way going about 15-20 MPH with the wheels turned. It only clears tho by about a 1/4 of a inch lol. Its getting a 2 inch BL in the spring and mabey bigger shackles and moog coils with some bigger tires and wheels.

Id like to get 17s and 33s under it eventualy. But idk. Prob get a silverado before i get 33s

[992drjimmy]

I think you should really think hard about the springs. I wouldnt do springs again.

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea i have heard you say that you wouldnt do it again.

what eles can you do for the front end to lift it? I know i want to lift it more but i think after the BL ill be happy with it.

[s10xtremist]

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

I think you should really think hard about the springs. I wouldnt do springs again.

What 2" springs did you use? I'm piecing together my 2WD lift, and I'm planning on spindles and 2" springs (maybe MOOG 5664s?). For the rear, ZR2 leaves with shackles or SOA. I'll probably end up with a 2" BL later on as well. I'm pretty much in the same boat as alarm_the_alarm in the fact this is my DD and I'll rarely ever go off-road.

I'm also toying with the idea of modifying the stock CAs for increased track width AND lift.

[alarm_the_alarm]

i belive he has moogs not sure tho. heavy leafs and springs give you a rougher ride then stock.

Id do the spindles shackles and the BL with some 32/11.5

Id like to stuff some 32s under mine in the spring after the BL.

Or if you have the money go long travel id do it but dont have the cash it will ride like a caddy and have great travel

[What?]

He has 2" Dick Cepek, not 5664.

It seems lately some members are not getting more than .5" lift from 5664, so other alternate would be 2.5" from Aim. They have 2 set of 2.5, 4cyl and 6 cyl, same for 3.5 but that's for LT UCA.

[992drjimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by What?

He has 2" Dick Cepek, not 5664.

It seems lately some members are not getting more than .5" lift from 5664, so other alternate would be 2.5" from Aim. They have 2 set of 2.5, 4cyl and 6 cyl, same for 3.5 but that's for LT UCA.

Yep that is right. I have the dick cepek 2" springs. And after 5 monthes, I still have 2".

[alarm_the_alarm]

with aim dont you need new upper control arms?

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

Yep that is right. I have the dick cepek 2" springs. And after 5 monthes, I still have 2".

That explains your stifness, with lift coil, it usually settle a bit. Also depend on diameter thickness, tall which comes in play.

What you planning on with your 2" coil now that you don't like it. It would help more if you romp around or remove shocks for a bit to get bit settle. Also depend which shocks you have because you can get cheapest shock w lifetime warranty that will be soft and compensate fot stiff coil.

[992drjimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by What?

That explains your stifness, with lift coil, it usually settle a bit. Also depend on diameter thickness, tall which comes in play.

What you planning on with your 2" coil now that you don't like it. It would help more if you romp around or remove shocks for a bit to get bit settle. Also depend which shocks you have because you can get cheapest shock w lifetime warranty that will be soft and compensate fot stiff coil.

I did have the cheapest shock oreilys had on the front for about 4 monthes. The bounciness was bad. A few weeks ago i put on some ranchos on the front and the bouciness is better. But they are still stiff enough that just city pot holes will lock my seat belt. I may take them out cant decide yet. I realized yesterday my brother tossed the stocker out when he helped me hall away some junk. So ill probably live with them until i can go sfa and 4x4.

[992drjimmy]

Do you really think running with out shocks would help. Its been about 6 months. But i dont drive it every day. Hard to with 4 kids. LOL so i end up in the van most of the time. When i went mudding a couple weeks ago. I didnt think it was too bad romping in the mud holes. I bounced it pretty hard a few times. One of the guys on a quad claimed the front was air born. But im not sure on that. Didnt reallyfeel like it. I do like the rancho shocks ALOT better. DO youthink the rear shock being for a full size suberban would have and effect on the fron stiffness. The rear i think does feel stiffer now than when it was SUA with the same shocks.

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

with aim dont you need new upper control arms?

It's ideal, SA isn't much it does do bit better than stock, you'll just ned to gusset uca mount, should settle around 2"

Springtech is other alternate(basically same as Aim lift spring) some has no issue and 1, maybe 2 member had drastic sag.

Fabtech coil isn't as good choice for offroading unless it's just streen queen and you don't mind the stiffness.

Makes it less choice for coil spring unless you go coilover, expensive route but you'll get your height you want.

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

I did have the cheapest shock oreilys had on the front for about 4 monthes. The bounciness was bad. A few weeks ago i put on some ranchos on the front and the bouciness is better. But they are still stiff enough that just city pot holes will lock my seat belt. I may take them out cant decide yet. I realized yesterday my brother tossed the stocker out when he helped me hall away some junk. So ill probably live with them until i can go sfa and 4x4.

Hmm, well, Bilstien 5100 would b awesome upgrade but not sure how it'll roll with Dick Cepek coils. If you want, we can trade coils.

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

Do you really think running with out shocks would help. Its been about 6 months. But i dont drive it every day. Hard to with 4 kids. LOL so i end up in the van most of the time. When i went mudding a couple weeks ago. I didnt think it was too bad romping in the mud holes. I bounced it pretty hard a few times. One of the guys on a quad claimed the front was air born. But im not sure on that. Didnt reallyfeel like it. I do like the rancho shocks ALOT better. DO youthink the rear shock being for a full size suberban would have and effect on the fron stiffness. The rear i think does feel stiffer now than when it was SUA with the same shocks.

No shocks help with settle but seeing its been a while, probably won't do much now. I'm sure you did get airborne a bit, with lift coil it bring closer to full droop which mean you'll airborne easier. Nothing wrong just keep an eye on your suspension before/after.

Tight/soft shock can't affect front, however SOA/SUA may have difference if shock mount is further higher or lower than stock position, you can add some weight to rear to reduce stiffness.

[992drjimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by What?

Hmm, well, Bilstien 5100 would b awesome upgrade but not sure how it'll roll with Dick Cepek coils. If you want, we can trade coils.



No shocks help with settle but seeing its been a while, probably won't do much now. I'm sure you did get airborne a bit, with lift coil it bring closer to full droop which mean you'll airborne easier. Nothing wrong just keep an eye on your suspension before/after.

Tight/soft shock can't affect front, however SOA/SUA may have difference if shock mount is further higher or lower than stock position, you can add some weight to rear to reduce stiffness.

A while back i had 12 sheets of drywall in the bed and i swear the whole truck rode better. I may pop the rear shocks off and see how it is. Ill probably leave the front springs in anyways. I dont want to lose the 33's . Im sure they would rub the body mount too hard if i dropped 2".

I do like the rancho shocks on the front. It is better.

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea. with weight in the bed of course its gonna ride niicer.

Im thinking about doing the moog coils how are they for stiffness? the rear will just be shackle so it wont change the ride quility but i dont want it to be rough like drjimmys talking about with the seatbelt locking up on potholes

[992drjimmy]

Talk to snookaholic. I know he has moogs. Seriously if i was doing it again. I would not do coils. One they are harder than hell to get in. Two. They ride like crap. If you dont want any more that 31's. I wouldnt. I was thinking also of looking into modifying the body mount behind front wheels somehow. Then im pretty sure the 33's would still fit if i dropped 2 inches. I really dont want to go through all the work of going back sua and changing springs again. Plus its getting cold and i dont have a garage since we moved last fall.

[992drjimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

yea. with weight in the bed of course its gonna ride niicer.

Im thinking about doing the moog coils how are they for stiffness? the rear will just be shackle so it wont change the ride quility but i dont want it to be rough like drjimmys talking about with the seatbelt locking up on potholes

What about something like this?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/G-Bod...fAcce ssories

[alarm_the_alarm]

how much lift could i get out of coil overs? I know it would ride like a caddy its not a terrible price for them in the front.

[992drjimmy]

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

how much lift could i get out of coil overs? I know it would ride like a caddy its not a terrible price for them in the front.

I didnt see anything about how much lift or drop you could get from them. Searching i found a write up on some coil overs, but didnt say about how much lift or drop you could get. Did say it rids like a caddy.

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

A while back i had 12 sheets of drywall in the bed and i swear the whole truck rode better. I may pop the rear shocks off and see how it is. Ill probably leave the front springs in anyways. I dont want to lose the 33's . Im sure they would rub the body mount too hard if i dropped 2".

I do like the rancho shocks on the front. It is better.

It won't do much removing shock, leaf spring are already settled as is, However, you can remove smaller leaf spring(above overload) and that will reduce your rear height BUT soften the ride.

Around here Rancho don't last long but we also don't go easy on offroading either so I'm sure it'll last a while for you.

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

yea. with weight in the bed of course its gonna ride niicer.

Im thinking about doing the moog coils how are they for stiffness? the rear will just be shackle so it wont change the ride quility but i dont want it to be rough like drjimmys talking about with the seatbelt locking up on potholes

Stiffness, not as stiff as 2" lift coil but lift height won't be as high as 2" but it'll be @ least .5-1.5 after settle. Ride quality is just a bit firmer than stock.

Install is easy, rent internal spring compresser and you'll get it in easy.


As for coilover with eBay link above, 2 member used it for drop and turned out really well. To get lift out of it, probably 550 with heaviest up front and unsure how much you'll be able lift. It may ride stiffer than stock but won't be neckbreaking(that's another reason to go coilover, it can be adjusted to your liking with adjustment and coilover height.

At least it'll fit and cheaper than buying Kings so its not a bad idea, it'll be trial and error because no one (I know of on this and several other forums for s-series relate) bought it for lift.

[What?]

Well actually, I'll go ahead and talk to fellas who uses it for lowering and see how much higher over stock if they can, because all you'll need is 2" until you go long travel then 2"-4", best part is installation won't be much of hassle compared to lift coils lol.

But basically lower the number, 350, 250, the softer it will be, the higher the stiffer(not neck snapping stuff) so basically match the front weight and see how much higher you can get, BUT easier to call and talk to them about finding out with same weight, how high can you go before it's maximum stop because it may not be high enough. So let us know all you informed from them about it when you can call them.

Now they may tell you that you need lca/uca which isn't true because it can fit stock and we already know that 2.5" or higher requires uca mount gusset/strengthen(you can also make more room for extra droop length but re-work droop stop).

Then you'll need to flip your balljoint to get better bj angle and not replacing them often.

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea im sure you can get at least 2 inches out of them. Its somthing to think about. might just go all out when i get more lift and go for the long travel

[992drjimmy]

But the coil overs will ride better?

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by alarm_the_alarm

yea im sure you can get at least 2 inches out of them. Its somthing to think about. might just go all out when i get more lift and go for the long travel

I'm sure, it just depend their coil over position length.

If you plan on long travel, I say just save the money and go with different setup when you do so you can be able get taller coilover.

[What?]

Quote: Originally Posted by 992drjimmy

But the coil overs will ride better?

Yes, it also depends which setup you get but it will ride much better.

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea ill prob just do coilovers and call it good till i can get a duramax


I want a dmax with a 6 or 8 inch lift on 37s with 20s all black with chrome wheels

[twistedsmily]

hey man I meant to ask, hows it doin with those 31's, (do you know what gearing you have)

[alarm_the_alarm]

yea i have 3.07:1 gearing aka grandpa gears. its actuly not bad at all. I can still break the tires loose and smokeum very easily. Also at highway speed it takes off to accelerate with no problem or boggyness. going up hills it has no problem either theres a pretty step hill by my house i drive up every day and it doesnt even shift down at 40 MPH