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Old 04-04-2011, 03:37 AM   #1
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2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Hey all, i been reading up on this site for about a year now and now have decided to post my own section and get some help and some comments on your alls opinions on some issues.
now heres my lift parts im planning on getting:
-MOOG Part # 5664
-3.5 inch Fabtech Spindle Lift Kit with Performance Shocks and 3 inch shackles
-1.5 inch Fabtech Add-a-leaf
how do you all think this will look? and what size tires do you think i can get up to with there being no issues of rubbing wheel wells.
now heres my gear ratio as of right now:
-3.42
what ratio do you think i will need for im thinking 31-33 inch mud tires as im going to be doing offroading mostly and want a lot of power.
i was thinking 3.73 ratio.
im also thinking of putting on a prerunner skid plate but am having trouble finding them... i want an official one that will actually take a beating and look good since im paying the money for it to be put on as it is you know?
After all this i was thinking if i even should or not put on a body lift for 2 more inches... the only reason i would do it is because thats the only way i know for 2 more inches because i have searched and found no other lift kits that would go higher than 3.5 inches. if anyone knows of a way please tell me before i decide on the body lift... i would very much like to keep it a suspension lift only. thanks and im looking forward to some comments.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

U could always go the more costly long travel setup upfront with 3-3.5" spindles and 3" coils like billsduster has on his truck with a SOA kit in the rear but that setup can be quite costly for the front end alone
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Hey mind on posting some pics of that truck? That looks pretty damn nice.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Which truck? Billduster's truck is on the last page of the lifted 2wd pics and if u mean mine it's under a tread called finally doing a build tread
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

The truck in as your avatar picture of your profile.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

That's my truck if u look in this section look for the thread "so finally doing a build thread" it will show what all I have done to my truck... And this weekend it's getting the Moog 5664 springs for another 1" or so lift over stock which will actually make about 2" for me since I have the wrong springs in there... I currently have 4cyl springs in a 6cyl truck which sit about 1" under stock
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

i checked it out and yea its a nice truck indeed. great job so far. when u get the coils installed post a pic of the before vs after of it. would like to see how much difference the front will look to the back.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

sounds like a good plan so far but imo if i was you id get the 3.5 spindles and moog 5664s for the front, and 2 inch shackles with a 2 inch add-a-leaf. that would look really good and you could fit 30-31s on there.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

thanks for the info motoman, im planning on going with the spindles and moogs for sure and the fabtech 1.5 inch provided add a leaf that comes with the spindles. As for any more lift for the rear end im going to go maybe flipping the struts on top of the axle and see how that would look if i need anymore lift i'll go with a shackle for more lift. Any other way to make the front go any higher? i really want to get this thing as jacked as possible without having to go with a long travel kit from some custom shop.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

well if you flip the rear the only way you would get it close without long travel is having 3.5 spindles and 2 inch coils which would end up being about 5" up front and 5-6 in back. the back would still be higher but not anymore than it is stock.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Thats not bad. Plus I was going to throw a 2 inch body just for more room in the wheel wells so I can flex easier with little or no rub. Also if needed I'll be using spacers on the wheels for there to be less chance of rub on the a arms or frame. Does this sound correct to you? Also is there any way of boosting the front anymore? Like a spacer that will pop it up about another half inch or maybe an inch? That would be absolutely amazing if I could find something.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

they make coil spacers but almost everyone here will tell you to stay away from them. and thats what i plan on for my truck, ive already got spindles and shackles but i plan on doing moogs and add-a-leafs then a 2 inch body lift running 31s.

also i just seen that yours is an xtreme, you might wanna check out YJeep's build thread. it should be a great guide for your truck
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Will do. Just got one question. What's the problem with the coil spacers? Just unsafe? And I decided on going with 31x10.50 Mickey Thompson baja claw radials for tires. They fit the stock s10s 15 inch wheel. And I would like to see how it looks. If I don't like it I'm Gunna roll with the procomp black old school rims that u picture on those offroaders back in our dads days.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

from what i've heard they are just unsafe. and yeah that would be a great tire.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Allright then I'll stay clear away from those then. Should I do any reinforcing of the a arms or anything else? An those tires are beast, I seen them in person and they are some meaty claws. Very sturdy tire and nice side walls with claws.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

i doubt you'll need reinforcing. it all should hold up fine
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Allright cool stuff. Anyone know where I can get a front bumper skid plate?
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

make one.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

what material should i use to make it out of? sheet metal? that metal with the diamond bumps on it? like how thick should said skid plate be to protect against say if my whole truck came down on a hard surface. wouldnt want to do it intentionally but its just in case.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

sheet metal would be fine, or even diamond plate. I'm not sure what you're wanting to use it for exactly, but 1/4" should be plenty thick for heavier abuse, and thinner just for looks.

As for coil spring spacers,they are unsafe as there's nothing physically holding them in place other than the weight of the spring. They could potentially slip out which would be very dangerous.

As for the upper and lower arms, they are plenty strong enough, plenty of people have used stock arms without any issues, and some even have them trimmed a little for clearance or whatever reasons. The ball joints are the weaker portion, and the frame over the arms. I've heard of more stories of the frame welds breaking where the upper arms attach than the arms being damaged. But usally that only happens when 3" or more lift coils are used which bind the suspension.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Yea I'm going for that prerunner type of front bumper skid plate type deal. So I'll plobally end up either buying someones off craigslist of make one out of diamond plate.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Long time since I posted in this build thread, I got a job that let's me spend on my truck finally so I finally got spindles, moog 5664s, 2" shackles on right now, and am getting my 2" body lift put on in a few days. I have also some procomp rock crawler 98 series 15x8 with a 3 somethin offset with 31x10.50 all terrains for now until I get my next paycheck for 4 brand new 31x10.50 bfg km2 mt. Also coming in some time in next week or so is my prerunner bumper guard/light mount by nfab since it is body lift compatible. and imma be ordering 6" front flared fiberglass fenders and then paint match it to really finish up the trucks look. pics coming up as each new part gets put on. When I get home I'll post a pic of my truck how it is right now.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

well? lets see some pics! change your mind about the 33's?
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Yea changed my mind about the 33s lol barely fits the 31x10.50 with fender trimming and has moog 5664, spindle lift and rear has 2" shackles. I'm on my way home from work I'll post the pics up when I'm back. I got before and after pics of everything I did.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

HERE WE GO!!!!
FROM BEFORE TO AFTER!
1 xtreme to the next...

First we have front still original from factory


and side view


heres a back to front view of side


now with the kit removal... front first pre moog 5664 installed


side taken off, traction bars installed in rear and still hasnt had coils installed yet...


coils installed and decided hell lets make a shitty skid plate...


now with the spindle lift, coils, 2" shackle, 31x10.50 on 15 procomp 98 series rock crawler wheels...







the old girl needs an alignment still lol more pics comming up as i get more parts in...

All polished up and clean...


2" body lift pic comming up tomorrow when i pick it up.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

looks good man, what backspacing are those rims? so even after the 2" body lift your gonna stick with 31's?
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Yea the rims are 3.45 or 3.75 backspace not sure what one. And the tire size will stay the same lol. Can't stand the rubbing.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

yeah stick with 31s. I didnt do any trimming but mine occasionally rubs coming into a driveway with 2" coils 3" spindles and a 2" body lift. I did massage the inner fender back somewhat before the body lift but I still get the occasional rub.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Yup everything is all good I got no rub, the trimming helped so now I got the body lift on and I'll be posting a pic up soon.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Post some closeups of where you trimmed to. I wanna see how it makes the fender lip look. My truck is white so the fender lip sticks out more than a darker truck.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Well the original X wheels work or is their clearance issues?
Did you change out the leaf pack or you just did add a leaf?
I'm currently debating on lifting mine.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Original x wheels would work with a 30x9.50r16 tire. Anything bigger and it will rub very bad. I did only shackles in the back but might be taking them off and doing a axle flip and add leaf instead tomorrow. I found some coil spacers and I'm also going to throw on some limiting straps to keep it all in place and keep my other suspension and steering components from getting slapped around and to keep the spacers and coils from going slack and beginning a danger issue. I'll post pics Friday when I get it back from the shop.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Also got more pics of the body lift installed and my nfab prerunner bar for the front bumper. Looks sick. I'll post those pic right now in about 10 mins.
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Quote: Originally Posted by baja2002s10xtreme
Original x wheels would work with a 30x9.50r16 tire. Anything bigger and it will rub very bad. I did only shackles in the back but might be taking them off and doing a axle flip and add leaf instead tomorrow. I found some coil spacers and I'm also going to throw on some limiting straps to keep it all in place and keep my other suspension and steering components from getting slapped around and to keep the spacers and coils from going slack and beginning a danger issue. I'll post pics Friday when I get it back from the shop.
Thank you!! One step closer for me.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Do you have to change out the brake lines to a extened one? Did you change your shocks out?
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Yea no prob an I'll post the pics of the truck as it stands 2" body lift, moot 5664 coils, spindles, and shackles on 31x10.50r15 in the morning. I'm at work. Little heads up tho, when u get ur lift installed they are Gunna tell u at any alignment shop that ur Gunna need new tierods, new bearings and few other pricey things to actually be able to align the beast. I had/ still have to but am waiting until the spacer and flip kit is done so I won't have to do it again. I think les schwab wanted to charge me like $250 for it all to be done with the alignment after the parts were installed so I said screw it and waited. I'll be doing it Friday tho so it's all good. Figured I'd tell u this since no one ever said what problems the lifting could do to the truck on this forum.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

The brake lines do need extended replacements, fabtech makes them and they are cheap to buy and hold up really well, and the shocks are recommended to be replaced for ride smoothness as shocks do lose performance over the years. I got the fabtech performance shocks and I love them u can't feel anything offside with the entire setup I got.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

You could however still use stock shocks... If you just get the spindle lift/shackle or add leaf. If u get springs then it could be pushing it and might be a little to close as the shocks do only extend so much until it reaches max.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Fabtech shocks will last longer than Rancho though but I'd still prefer Bilsteins, can't beat lifetime warranty that does well on and off road.

I see you have traction bar, they will make off roading not as good because they prevent flex. If you're doing ANY offroading, you need to remove them.

I remove brake line mount from frame and removed bracket which gives me room but the moment you start lifting coil or offroading hard where tire goes nearly full left or right at or near full droop, it's stretching it. Longer brake line is a for that.

I'm getting brake line made this week or next when I get the time. I can get you quote on it plus shipping. SS DOT, in either clear, blue, red, maybe smoke or black if available.


I highly recommend NOT to install coil spacer, unless you want to break something and possibly injurying yourself. It's not for first timer install or even some lift coil spring install on it.

Add a leaf will stiffen your rear even more, great for hauling loads, not so great if you don't haul loads.

Wait until you flip the leaf first, you may leave it as is if height is high enough.


MOOG balljoints are recommended, otherwise Extreme Duty(blue boots) from other local auto store is a must.

If you already bought suspension parts, likely they're already lifetime warranty from local auto store, especially tie rod joints, balljoints, idler arm, center link, bushing. Even torn boot would mean replacing the joint because they are exposed to dirt and grinding will occur if not happened and damages the joint.
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Re: 2002 xtreme 4.3L s10 to lifted with 33 mud tires

Hey baja2002 can u post a pic of ur truck the final pic ....looks good wana see the final look
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