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Xtreme Blazer Swap
Well guys ive been wanting to do this for quite a while now, i had taught about putting a 5.3 into my blazer since i was in highschool and ppl would say it didnt fit and so forth, until i saw black x s10 on youtube thats when i started getting more into it, ive been reading around and i understand some stuff and some i still need more knowledge on, like the fuel filter, returnless or not, which way to go, and what does the ls6 intake have compared to the truck....
for right now i just bought a 5.3 with 50xxx miles, i still need to check if its a 5.3 tho haha, but ill open it up when i go home on july 2nd.. i just finished ordering the lh8 alpha pan, which ive seen theres no modification to the xmember on blazers, correct me if im wrong.... i wanted more space and was thinking of buying the ls2 water pump, but im confused to what else id have to change to go that route, or what would you guys recommend i buy, the engine has no water pump so i need one... i am going to have to make a call to jared to see if he can help me out a lil, but work doesnt give me much time right now, btw im working in crystal river florida, anyone with a lsx in the area??? ohh and itll be going into my 2001 Xtreme Blazer, will be replacing my 4.3 5 speed, roughly around 113k miles 5.3 = 500$ lh8 pan= 206$ just getting started with the parts, and i can use all the help possible, Last edited by 01blzxtreme : 06-23-2009 at 01:56 AM. |
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
yeah it sits kinda high, but should take care of that soon....this is the victim
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
LS6/LS2 accessories will allow more room between the front of the engine and radiator/fans. LS6 the route I'm going.
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
yeah but what do i have to change to run the ls2/6 accesories,
is it just the water pump and crank pulley?? or does everything have to be shifted back?? |
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
water pump, crank pulley , alternator bracket ,.....And yes the Vette accessories sit farther back so everything needs to match..
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
If you shop around you should be able to buy the LH8 pan kit about $50 cheaper then that. Last time I looked it only listed for $180 |
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
I picked mine up last week for $160 shipped a www.sdparts.com.
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I'm guessing that if you don't have a water pump, you probably dont have any of the brackets or accessorys. If that's the case, just buy the ls2 accessory kit, and then add the waterpump and crank pulley. Since you're doing a blazer, you shouldn't have much trouble getting the LS2 AC compressor to fit. nothing would have to be shifted, the whole kit is just bolt on. |
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so if i put the ls2 ac compressor, i dont have to buy the high mount bracket?? |
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ahh thats cool guys, i already bought the h3 pan kit, no looking back now haha,
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hey man nice blazer. Things to watch out for on the blazers is the A/C box because the mounts for the motor are positioned higher than the S10 truck mounts. The A/C box runs into the head but if you position the motor further forward then you don't have that problem but the Trans crossmember needs to be moved forward. On the fuel pressure regulator/filter set up i went with the S10 flex fuel filter. The LS2/LS7 vette accessories part # 19155067 if you run this front drive set up you need the water pump Part# 89018052 its a water pump kit i'm havin trouble finding the part # i think this is all correct the harmonic balancer part # is 12599862
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
i just cut off the "stock mounting pads" on my blazer and bolted the mounts to the frame and i have no clearance issue with the ac box
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just looked on yahoo and found some links, the second link says it includes water pump, what site would you guys reccomend...
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=199033 http://gmperformancepartszone.com/se...mp;language=en http://www.jegs.com/p/GM-Performance...52514/10002/-1 |
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
If you search for my swap "beginning of" or something you'll see where you need to cut for the a/c box. Also, you'll need a slight massaging of the tranny tunnel possibly depending on the transmission you go with. Your stock tranny will only last about 5000 miles....
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nop not using the stock tranny, mine is standard and going to automatic, so might aswell get one from a full size...
yeah i found your thread, thanks man, ill read into it... |
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30 bucks extra for the water pump is a steal. I'd contact them first though just to find out exactly what is included (their description seems a little short). Also, don't forget shipping cost. I've got a used truck waterpump I'd let you have for $40 shipped. |
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^^^ That guy is selling a used crank bolt...I wonder if he realizes they are torque to yield bolts and cannot be reused...
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so it would be 830$....does that seem like a good deal, |
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Sounds good to me, as long as theyre GM parts.
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they should be, its a GM part # for the kit. thats a good price
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I wonder if they would sell the kit without a/c and what the price would be....Cause I could just sell the Waterpump.....
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http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=248708 i wonder if jared can get these and bundle them with the kwik setup... |
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as soon as i get my debit card ill call and verify the part numbers it should include and post up to see how the transactoin goes....
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http://www.texas-speed.com/SHOP/item...d=629&catid=16
would this work if i wanna get and underdrive balancer pulley???? |
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Ah, going with the auto, well you have a few choices. I recommend the s10 4L60E style and using the adapter plate, it will move the tranny a smidge closer to the engine and give you more room. The ls style bell housing is bigger and input shaft longer.
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You would be good with that pulley...it has higher retaining walls that the ASP pulley but its also a couple of pounds heavier...also cheaper than the ASP pulley...
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
well i bought the balancer pulley on ls1 tech for 140 shipped (asp underdrive),
s10 flex fuel filter arrived too.. need to order poly mounts this week too// and im ordering the ls2 accesories this week, the bank sent my debit card to my house in texas, now my dad has to mail it to me... Last edited by 01blzxtreme : 07-13-2009 at 01:10 AM. |
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This is the LS2 harmonic balancer its sits a half of an inch inside the pulley
![]() this is a truck harmonic balancer and a LS1 vette balancer right next to each other ![]() sorry i don't think the LS2 accessories will work with that underdrive pulley but check on it... i read the website it says that it works on both but clearly couldn't as you can see Last edited by Xtremechubs : 07-13-2009 at 08:53 AM. |
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I put a balancer off a 5.3 truck motor and it was the same as a ls1 vette and f-body.
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what accessories did you run they will all bolt up but they will not have the same distance from the motor and with this case if you ran the LS1 balancer and LS2 accessories it may run till you rev it up and it will want to throw the belt and the belt will wear unevenly. There has to be a difference
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damm i knew i was missing something, well ill have to wait till i order the accesories and ill post it up, and also post up the pulley i bought,
used for 140 shipped, aint to bad, thanks for catching my mistakes guys, i appreciate it... |
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well i tried ordering the kit with the waterpump, but it got canceled,
they emailed me saying the kit is on backorder, and it might be available till late august, dont know if i should wait or just order one from some other page... hey i was wondering what different setups there are available for headers on 2 dr blazers.... |
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![]() The headers on top are headman hustler headers with two primaries that run outside the frame. ![]() The mid length headers above are sold at BRP perfromance i beleve these are also hedman hustler headers You have the sanderson shorties ![]() and CPW made some long tubes i just don't know if he still does he might for the right price |
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ive seen the first ones, and i like them,
but wouldnt it get to hot and affect the tires or something??? what price are those going for?? |
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I dunno about the tires denali_on_26's ran this setup he said his tires were a 20x8.5 up front and cleared as far as heat on the tires don't know i dont think they are for street use the wheels he ran made a difference he had corvette offset so i think that might have helped.. I think you can get them for around $450 uncoated of course.
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not a bad price, but mine would be a daily, i could just get some temporary ones then go with a guy to make me some custom made ones,
got a friend with a colorado that got his lt's for like 200 bucks, not the nicest cuz theyre welded in pieces but theyll get the job done, |
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Updates*
got my ls6 intake, complete with injs, fuel rails, gaskets, bolts, tb, for 440 brand new.... all my accesories are here, except for water pump, and im still trying to find the right underdrive pulley... but the worst is, i need a new engine, i was cleaning up the one i got and taught id remove the heads to see what i was working with, turns out the mf that sold me the engine gave me a 4.8, which im pissed and im gonna go wait for him outside his work tommorow... and second, one of the cylinders had water in it.....ill snap some pics Last edited by 01blzxtreme : 07-31-2009 at 04:45 AM. |
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well still trying to gather up parts, got a 6.0 and will be taking the 4.8 as a core....
mounts are here and still undecided on headers... another thing im not clear on is my fuel lines, i bought and ls6 intake returnless..any inputs?? |
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Re: Xtreme Blazer Swap
Go with a 2.2 S10 flex fuel filter w/built in regulator or C5 Corvette filter w/built in regulator. They're both the same with different part numbers I think.
You're also going to need some Russell GM quick disconnect to -6AN adapter fittings in 5/16" and 3/8" |
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yeah i already have the flex fuel filter....
im just a lil confused cuz i havent seen a clear description of this, maybe someone can make a thread showing how they ran the return style and returnless....i think i got how im going to do mine, someone had made a thread it helped out |
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technically its not a returnless style the LS1 powered F-Bodys have a regulator its just right at the top of the tank. I was reading awhile back and i remember black X saying that the outside hook up was the inlet and the middle one was the return which i thought was weird but if he said thats how it works then i would bet money that, thats the way it goes. I think i'm going to get enough of the russel fittings to run braided stanless the whole way.
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well i got my 6.0 home, cleaned it up a bit and sprayed some engine enamel
![]() ![]() i think it turned out good.... bolted up the accesory kit after a day so the paint can dry... ![]() the reservoir and alternator sit fluch with the top of the ls6 intake... ![]() the asp pulley fit quite nicely, i taught i had the wrong one but taught id giveit a test fit and it alined perfectly.. ![]() just a shot my bro took coming back from florida ![]() Last edited by 01blzxtreme : 09-02-2009 at 04:05 AM. |
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heres a pic of the asp underdrive pulley for the ls2 kit...
part # is clearly printed ordering water pump kit, and mid length headers tonight.... ![]() Last edited by 01blzxtreme : 09-02-2009 at 04:07 AM. |
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hey man i was in the process of putting my LS2 harmonic balancer on and found out it doesn't fit did you say that the harmonic balancer you got was for a LS1 corvette cuz i guess i'm going to have to buy one and hopefully they will return it maybe maybe not. I read threw that how to rebuild LS handbook and it says that some crank snouts are different so i think the LS2 crank snout must be longer cuz the pan i'm using is off of a LS2 vette and the blocks are basically the same dimensions so i think thats whats up with that. Just let me know that would be awesome.
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