Started the LS1 for the First Time!!!

XtremeRacer11 · 07-13-2006, 06:04 AM

after 3 weeks of long days and tons of b**ching and yelling, my dad and i got the LS1 fired up today...damn it sounded so beautiful...it's kinda quite at idle, but u'll hear her coming when the foots on the pedal...when day light comes i well put the e-fans on the radiatot, and do all the last minute things before final assembly and her first road test...a special thanx to Jared at Current Performance for and awsome wiring harness...i'll post some pics when i get the chance...Laterz

SuperSS27 · 07-13-2006, 09:04 AM

Good job! The first start up is the best part of the whole swap.

subzidal · 07-13-2006, 01:04 PM

thats awesome!
man i wish i werent to scared to do a swap. i have this feeling like i will f. it up so bad

bitchin sonoma · 07-13-2006, 01:32 PM

I am thinking about doing the same!! I want to put a lt-1 or ls-1 in the near future! My friend is going to help me!

subzidal · 07-13-2006, 01:47 PM

LUCKY! all my friends are into beer and drugs...not trucks. my dad own a mechanic shop...but doesnt aprove of a 350 swap for me. i feel so alone on this

haha

***CPWire*** · 07-13-2006, 02:01 PM

What ended up being the starting issue? I am sorry I couldn't be on the phone, this strep throat has me all screwed up and I can't talk for long without my throat hurting like hell.

XtremeRacer11 · 07-13-2006, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 97 SS 350

What ended up being the starting issue? I am sorry I couldn't be on the phone, this strep throat has me all screwed up and I can't talk for long without my throat hurting like hell.

the computer thought it was in reverse cause of the safety neutral switch...i need to by pass it...i'l get u a pic for ur site when i'm done...thanx again...

samandjen1 · 07-13-2006, 02:44 PM

pics!

bitchin sonoma · 07-13-2006, 03:51 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by subzidal

LUCKY! all my friends are into beer and drugs...not trucks. my dad own a mechanic shop...but doesnt aprove of a 350 swap for me. i feel so alone on this
haha

One day a friend will help you!! My friend knows a lot, he has been doing since he was young!! He reccommended me to go for a lt-1 swap, because it's a iron block and can take more beatings!! The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!! But, I am really deciding on which one to go for! Also I he is going to help me do a two tone paint job, he has done it for many years, basically all his life , he is in his early 30s'!

subzidal · 07-13-2006, 05:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

One day a friend will help you!! My friend knows a lot, he has been doing since he was young!! He reccommended me to go for a lt-1 swap, because it's a iron block and can take more beatings!! The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!! But, I am really deciding on which one to go for! Also I he is going to help me do a two tone paint job, he has done it for many years, basically all his life , he is in his early 30s'!

thats sweet. which one will you end up going for? where will you get the engine? wrecker? a two tone would be sweet!

LT4S10 · 07-13-2006, 11:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!!

Umm, I dont think so. Do some research my young grasshopper.
I would gladly trade my LT4 for an LS1, 2 or 7 motor ANYDAY!

Bubba

Cronos · 07-14-2006, 03:34 AM

yes, i believe the updated blocks have proven to handle over 800hp >=]

***SweetS10V8*** · 07-14-2006, 08:50 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

He reccommended me to go for a lt-1 swap, because it's a iron block and can take more beatings!! The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!!

Wow, I wouldnt listen to your friend either. Whats the first word that comes to mind when people hear LT1?? Opti-spark.....

What is it when they hear LS1?? Awsome....

Ive done about 500-600 dyno pulls on the current LS1 at work, and it wasnt anywhere near new when I started with it. You cant kill the thing!! I would still take that engine and run it in my truck, if I had the option.

bitchin sonoma · 07-14-2006, 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8

Wow, I wouldnt listen to your friend either. Whats the first word that comes to mind when people hear LT1?? Opti-spark.....

What is it when they hear LS1?? Awsome....

Ive done about 500-600 dyno pulls on the current LS1 at work, and it wasnt anywhere near new when I started with it. You cant kill the thing!! I would still take that engine and run it in my truck, if I had the option.

cool!!! So if I pressed my foot like crazy , would it still take the beatings? I always wanted an ls-1 for a daily driver!!! He use to drag race his 91 chevy s-10 and had full slicks, had over 1000 hp an he had a sb 400!! He got to see powerful ls-1 v8s in cars and they did a good job at first, but many failed! He got to see powerful lt-1s and they did not have problems!! Lead me to the right direction , when the near future gets here for me to get the v8!! I really don't want to race it, I just want power and get up and go!! because my piss of crap 4 banger is so damn weak!!

ZZ4Blazer · 07-14-2006, 01:52 PM

LS1's are very strong. Even with the aluminum block, they're very stout. I beleive teh bottom end is like a 6 bolt main, and the factory crank's good to 800-1000 HP.

Unless you plan on crazy amounts of boost( like 25- 30 psi+) the aluminum block will be fine. Only problems I've ever heard of was pulling the head bolts out of the block from huge turbos

bitchin sonoma · 07-14-2006, 03:17 PM

sweet!! Thanks man!!

jinusow · 07-14-2006, 07:34 PM

The ls1 is a monster. The 2.2l is crap compared to the tech they put into the ls1. I'm pretty sure every new engine GM has put out has designs taken from the 97 ls1. Yes, you can ruin a ls1 with a turbo. A buddy ask a shop to put a turbo on his engine and asked may times if they though to upgrade the internals well they tuned it and blew it. His, vette was sitting for over a year before it was all fixed. You should be fine up to whatever you plan for just remember running over 6000rpm is going to break something at any horsepower without parts that can take that rpm.

xTravisx · 07-14-2006, 07:41 PM

How much have you invested in your Ls1 swap?

ZZ4Blazer · 07-14-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by jinusow

remember running over 6000rpm is going to break something at any horsepower without parts that can take that rpm.

I beleive the stock LS1 redlines 6000 rpm. Cam swap w/springs and you'll easily see 6500-7000 rpm with the stock bottom end. With a good tune, guys have been beating on them for years like that. I beleive the LS6's got a 7000 rpm redline stock.

***SweetS10V8*** · 07-15-2006, 12:21 AM

Stock cammed LS1s peak at about 5700-5800 RPM, I pull them to 6000. After a cam swap to 216/220...6500 RPM is doable with prpoer valve train upgrades.

jinusow · 07-15-2006, 01:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by xTravisx

How much have you invested in your Ls1 swap?

You can do a true 5.7l ls1 for about $7,000 from a 2.2l. I've put in a lot more than that into my ls10k

because I have a show truck. My only advice to anyone lowered or bagged GET A CORVETTE LS2 OIL PAN not the gto ls2 pan or the ls7. That oil pan is just awesome it fits about 1.5-2" from the bottom of the crossmember. Yes, you have to cut the crossmember about a .5". The pan and parts will cost $500 just as much as a custom truck pan, but you have a correct size pan that's build like no other I've ever seen. I'm not really going to post much more about my truck cause well you have to goto shows to see it. I can't promise any shows but I know midwest this year and southeast next year.

bitchin sonoma · 07-15-2006, 11:08 PM

sweet!!!

07-13-2006, 06:04 AM	#1
XtremeRacer11 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 203 Location: Harlingen, Texas User is: OffLine	Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! after 3 weeks of long days and tons of b**ching and yelling, my dad and i got the LS1 fired up today...damn it sounded so beautiful...it's kinda quite at idle, but u'll hear her coming when the foots on the pedal...when day light comes i well put the e-fans on the radiatot, and do all the last minute things before final assembly and her first road test...a special thanx to Jared at Current Performance for and awsome wiring harness...i'll post some pics when i get the chance...Laterz
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07-13-2006, 09:04 AM	#2
SuperSS27 TrailBlazin' Age: 25 Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 3,389 Location: Lindenhurst-Lake Villa, IL User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Good job! The first start up is the best part of the whole swap.
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07-13-2006, 01:04 PM	#3
subzidal JesseJames Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 768 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! thats awesome! man i wish i werent to scared to do a swap. i have this feeling like i will f. it up so bad
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07-13-2006, 01:32 PM	#4
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! I am thinking about doing the same!! I want to put a lt-1 or ls-1 in the near future! My friend is going to help me!
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07-13-2006, 01:47 PM	#5
subzidal JesseJames Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 768 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! LUCKY! all my friends are into beer and drugs...not trucks. my dad own a mechanic shop...but doesnt aprove of a 350 swap for me. i feel so alone on this haha
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07-13-2006, 02:01 PM	#6
*CPWire* Makin Sparks Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,206 Location: Hudson, Florida User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! What ended up being the starting issue? I am sorry I couldn't be on the phone, this strep throat has me all screwed up and I can't talk for long without my throat hurting like hell.
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07-13-2006, 02:41 PM	#7
XtremeRacer11 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 203 Location: Harlingen, Texas User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by 97 SS 350 What ended up being the starting issue? I am sorry I couldn't be on the phone, this strep throat has me all screwed up and I can't talk for long without my throat hurting like hell. the computer thought it was in reverse cause of the safety neutral switch...i need to by pass it...i'l get u a pic for ur site when i'm done...thanx again...
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07-13-2006, 02:44 PM	#8
samandjen1 Polishing Guru Age: 36 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,785 Location: South Jersey User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! pics!
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07-13-2006, 03:51 PM	#9
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by subzidal LUCKY! all my friends are into beer and drugs...not trucks. my dad own a mechanic shop...but doesnt aprove of a 350 swap for me. i feel so alone on this haha One day a friend will help you!! My friend knows a lot, he has been doing since he was young!! He reccommended me to go for a lt-1 swap, because it's a iron block and can take more beatings!! The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!! But, I am really deciding on which one to go for! Also I he is going to help me do a two tone paint job, he has done it for many years, basically all his life , he is in his early 30s'!
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07-13-2006, 05:03 PM	#10
subzidal JesseJames Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 768 Location: Calgary, AB, Canada User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma One day a friend will help you!! My friend knows a lot, he has been doing since he was young!! He reccommended me to go for a lt-1 swap, because it's a iron block and can take more beatings!! The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!! But, I am really deciding on which one to go for! Also I he is going to help me do a two tone paint job, he has done it for many years, basically all his life , he is in his early 30s'! thats sweet. which one will you end up going for? where will you get the engine? wrecker? a two tone would be sweet!
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07-13-2006, 11:44 PM	#11
LT4S10 Registered User Age: 36 Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 16 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma The ls-1 aluminum block tends to warp under strong power, and the motor does not last long!! Umm, I dont think so. Do some research my young grasshopper. I would gladly trade my LT4 for an LS1, 2 or 7 motor ANYDAY! Bubba
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07-14-2006, 03:34 AM	#12
Cronos i dont have feelings Age: 28 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Kelowna User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! yes, i believe the updated blocks have proven to handle over 800hp >=]
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07-14-2006, 11:47 AM	#14
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8 Wow, I wouldnt listen to your friend either. Whats the first word that comes to mind when people hear LT1?? Opti-spark..... What is it when they hear LS1?? Awsome.... Ive done about 500-600 dyno pulls on the current LS1 at work, and it wasnt anywhere near new when I started with it. You cant kill the thing!! I would still take that engine and run it in my truck, if I had the option. cool!!! So if I pressed my foot like crazy , would it still take the beatings? I always wanted an ls-1 for a daily driver!!! He use to drag race his 91 chevy s-10 and had full slicks, had over 1000 hp an he had a sb 400!! He got to see powerful ls-1 v8s in cars and they did a good job at first, but many failed! He got to see powerful lt-1s and they did not have problems!! Lead me to the right direction , when the near future gets here for me to get the v8!! I really don't want to race it, I just want power and get up and go!! because my piss of crap 4 banger is so damn weak!!
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07-14-2006, 01:52 PM	#15
ZZ4Blazer Getting faster Age: 28 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,145 Location: Akron, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! LS1's are very strong. Even with the aluminum block, they're very stout. I beleive teh bottom end is like a 6 bolt main, and the factory crank's good to 800-1000 HP. Unless you plan on crazy amounts of boost( like 25- 30 psi+) the aluminum block will be fine. Only problems I've ever heard of was pulling the head bolts out of the block from huge turbos
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07-14-2006, 03:17 PM	#16
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! sweet!! Thanks man!!
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07-14-2006, 07:34 PM	#17
jinusow Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! The ls1 is a monster. The 2.2l is crap compared to the tech they put into the ls1. I'm pretty sure every new engine GM has put out has designs taken from the 97 ls1. Yes, you can ruin a ls1 with a turbo. A buddy ask a shop to put a turbo on his engine and asked may times if they though to upgrade the internals well they tuned it and blew it. His, vette was sitting for over a year before it was all fixed. You should be fine up to whatever you plan for just remember running over 6000rpm is going to break something at any horsepower without parts that can take that rpm.
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07-14-2006, 07:41 PM	#18
xTravisx Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 110 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! How much have you invested in your Ls1 swap?
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07-14-2006, 10:03 PM	#19
ZZ4Blazer Getting faster Age: 28 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,145 Location: Akron, Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by jinusow remember running over 6000rpm is going to break something at any horsepower without parts that can take that rpm. I beleive the stock LS1 redlines 6000 rpm. Cam swap w/springs and you'll easily see 6500-7000 rpm with the stock bottom end. With a good tune, guys have been beating on them for years like that. I beleive the LS6's got a 7000 rpm redline stock.
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07-15-2006, 01:14 AM	#21
jinusow Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 152 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! Quote: Originally Posted by xTravisx How much have you invested in your Ls1 swap? You can do a true 5.7l ls1 for about $7,000 from a 2.2l. I've put in a lot more than that into my ls10k because I have a show truck. My only advice to anyone lowered or bagged GET A CORVETTE LS2 OIL PAN not the gto ls2 pan or the ls7. That oil pan is just awesome it fits about 1.5-2" from the bottom of the crossmember. Yes, you have to cut the crossmember about a .5". The pan and parts will cost $500 just as much as a custom truck pan, but you have a correct size pan that's build like no other I've ever seen. I'm not really going to post much more about my truck cause well you have to goto shows to see it. I can't promise any shows but I know midwest this year and southeast next year.
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07-15-2006, 11:08 PM	#22
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: Started the LS1 for the First Time!!! sweet!!!
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