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Old 11-06-2009, 12:43 AM   #201
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x
thanks for the heads up Frank. I got some of the Clevite Bearing Guard assembly lube, should that be good enough? I guess I'll pull the pump apart and port it to, although I'm sick of it lol.
oh, i know what you mean! porting is fun until the second port!

yea, ass lube is perfect!
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Lol sooo true Frank.

Yeah if yall know the sequence for the mains. I've decided to go to ARP main studs since I had some bolt stretch with the old bolts. I know your not suppose to reuse the bolts but I was just trying to get the clearances checked and she stretched under like 70 ftlbs...
Old 11-06-2009, 08:39 AM   #203
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Quote: Originally Posted by FKNBMPN
Not tryin to thread jack here, but what do the degrees reffer to?

you may be more familiar with the term "Torque To Yield"
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x
Lol sooo true Frank.

Yeah if yall know the sequence for the mains. I've decided to go to ARP main studs since I had some bolt stretch with the old bolts. I know your not suppose to reuse the bolts but I was just trying to get the clearances checked and she stretched under like 70 ftlbs...
i dont have the book with me at work, but if no one posts it by tonight ill let you know.
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Here ya go...

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i knew petro would beat me to the punch lol
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haha, thanks Petro, I'll have to wait till I'm outta school to see it, damn school blocks about everything...
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Freshly honed cylinders.





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nice.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

the bolt sequence isnt really that important. having a set method prevents people from torquing it in there crooked

basically, make sure all your mains are flat and seated then do your initial 15 ft/lbs. that will set the caps down, then i do the inner bolts. outter bolts are next and then finally the 8mm side bolts. once everything is tightened, make sure your crank turns over easily by hand
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

She's starting to look like a motor!





Just a preassembly to check all the rod and clearances, which all checked out.
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Cleaning everything meticulously isn't very fun....
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Man ur build just keeps getting better! And that fact that ur not rushing and trying to get it done in a week is awesome. cant wait to see it done
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

wholy, youre beating me now! i still need to clean my block a bit more

looks great Andy! have you checked your deck height with the new pistons?
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Thanks Chaos!

Haha, you may have a chance to catch up with me Frank, I got to get my ARP main studs ordered. I can then actually get those pistons in for good. I didn't ring them since it's going to come apart. Also got the new cam bearings in. Haven't checked the deck height yet but I'll check that tomorrow, I'm wiped lol.
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oh! i thought it was all assembled!! youre sneaky
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I try to
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

should have my main studs today or tomorrow. then I can really get it together.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

This engine is lookin great man. I am debating the 5.3 swap for an 86 s10 I'm gettin. I jus don't know if it's gonna be worth the money for all the lil stuff. The initial price doesn't look too bad but I don't wanna get nickel and dimed to death. How much are you up to now? And what's ur projected final price for the whole swap?


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To tell you the truth I don't even know what I'm up to right now if I had to guess maybe $1200... As for the swap I'd like to keep it under 4k... We will see how that works out lol.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Dont ever put a limit on the project! Cause u will go over it lol..
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Quote: Originally Posted by chaospartners
Dont ever put a limit on the project! Cause u will go over it lol..

Amen.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

i attached the torque sequence from GM
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Quote: Originally Posted by chaospartners
Dont ever put a limit on the project! Cause u will go over it lol..
Live by it!!!!!!!!!!!

Projected cost = $x.
Final cost = $3x

^true with any engine swap
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

True with anything.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

even worse with women! lol just when you think theyre not gonna be expensive.....
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Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma
even worse with women! lol just when you think theyre not gonna be expensive.....
Shit i cant get my women to spend money!! she wont even go to the movies cause it cost to much.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Lol, I suppose I'm lucky cause mine pay for me!

Anyways, on another note, I got my ARP studs in.







I got a little carried away with the moly lube lol... I was going to start ringing some of the pistons tonight but I checked the gap on the first set of rings and decided to call it a night. Don't want to miss the CMA's
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

looks good, screw the CMA's, do the rings! lol
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Quote: Originally Posted by chaospartners
Shit i cant get my women to spend money!! she wont even go to the movies cause it cost to much.
trade ya!!!!!


Andy, you can never have too much lube!
how come you went with studs over bolts?
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Cause you never know when you'll need a beefed up bottom end

and because I got them cheap too
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

oh, i thought they were more expensive than bolts. should be about the same strength i would imagine, just studs are easier for disassembly
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Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma
oh, i thought they were more expensive than bolts. should be about the same strength i would imagine, just studs are easier for disassembly
well they were $180 on Summit, but I had the Summit Bucks Discount thing and got them cheaper

These ... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-234-5608/
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Looks really good so far. Once i actually get enough money to finish paying off my truck, i wanna do a project like this. keep up the good work.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Thanks man...

Got half the pistons in tonight. Onwards to the pictures!









Double checked the end gaps on all the rings and they all checked out fine along with the piston to bore clearances too. Should have the others in tomorrow.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

oo i like build pix!!! what are your gaps set at?
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

I believe they were .014 for the top and .016 for the second ring IIRC.

Does anyone have any idea how to use a torque to angle gauge. I got the el cheapo one from Autozone and I have no idea how to use it...Just like this one

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you dont use angle gauges on arp!

you just set your wrench in place and use the lil arm to hold the base from turning. as you turn the wrench the needle should move and display the angle
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Ohhh ok, I guess you have to be smarter then the tool lol. Well the rods don't have ARP bolts, they are stock. I torqued them to 50 until I could figure out how to use the torque to degree wheel... but I'll losen them torque them to 15 them 60 degrees.
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Yeah the Torque angle gauge is a lil tricky IMO...I found out it works better with two people using it...I got my wife to help me. I would set it up and get her to hold the bar steady against the block/whatever and then double check..If you wrench has any "slack" in it get it to where you are just about to press forward with it and set the gauge to zero then in one smooth motion go to whatever degree it calls for...I'm no professional just saying what I found out worked best for me...Hopefully it's not wrong...haha
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

I was looking at this shift improver kit from B&M http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70360/ ... It says it goes up to 2001 4L60E's so would it still work with an 03? Would B&M be a good brand to go with?
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B&M is a good brand, and it should work on your '03.
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Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

Got my cam ordered!

Trick Flow 228/230 at .050 0.585/0.585 lift. and 112 lsa

Along with some GM Performance hydraulic roller lifters. Also got the other pistons in..
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Parts! Whoo!





And GM Performance lifters..

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That should be a fun cam...and gotta love it when the parts come in the mail!!!
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You know it! And when parts come in, you guys get rewarded with pictures! Lol.

Heres how she sits for the night...

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I need to get a Cam degreeing kit...
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I need to clean the garage up... I just realized how trashy it looks in the picture.

I think the Summit degree kit is $75.00.. I stole mine from a friend haha.
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I was reading in my LS book about the LS6 Yellow beehive valvesprings. It mentioned that other companies like Comp make springs that can handle .600 of lift (duh). My question is, can the LS6 yellow springs handle that much lift as my cam has .585 intake and exhaust?
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I think the LS6 springs are just rated to either .550 or .575...I'd say probably more like .550 ....



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