[Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build

1sic03x · 09-23-2009, 09:24 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

yes it would be awesome to resleeve it 427!!!

it'd be awesome if i had the money for that

... if i bore it, might do a 350.

wotgtp · 09-23-2009, 01:58 PM

I must say i'm really impressed with your build project, i'm on the fence of a 5.3 or a ls2(yeah i know ls2 pwnts all

) but the 5.3 is very cost effective and can still make great power. Good luck and hope it works as well as it looks!

1sic03x · 09-23-2009, 04:54 PM

thanks buddy! i couldn't find a 6.0 under $850 at the same place i got my 5.3...

wotgtp · 09-23-2009, 11:45 PM

LS2? That's still not a bad deal. I've seen some on ebay for like $1,500+ with fairly low miles, tranny and harness.

Petro · 09-23-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wotgtp

LS2? That's still not a bad deal. I've seen some on ebay for like $1,500+ with fairly low miles, tranny and harness.

The one he was referring to is probably a iron block not a aluminum....

wotgtp · 09-24-2009, 12:01 AM

LQ9? That's still and ok deal depending on the mileage. Reguardless of the 5.3 or 6.0 i have a ZR2 so i have alot of work ahead of me. Curse you 2wd's!!

LS2Sonoma · 09-24-2009, 03:32 AM

im in the same boat with the zr2... eagerly awaiting to do a swap >=]

my buddy just bought a complete 6.0 for $450 (cdn) so those deals are still out there, just gotta find them

1sic03x · 09-24-2009, 11:24 AM

$850 just for an 6.0 LQ9 from a Silverado or whatever. LS1's at the same place sold for $850 so I'm guessing $1200 or more if they even had an LS2.

**Kampz69** · 09-24-2009, 01:16 PM

LQ9s are bloated in pricing, yards put quite a premium on them compared to the LQ4s. unfortunately the only "cheap" LQ4s i find by me are early 99-00 engines...newer engines are still around 1k at least

wotgtp · 09-24-2009, 02:03 PM

Depending on pricing i guess it would be wise to look into the 5.3, sorry OP for throwing the topic off course.

1sic03x · 09-24-2009, 02:49 PM

haha its straight dude

S10SittnonDUBS · 09-25-2009, 03:06 PM

Awesome build! Thumbs up for a local!!!

1sic03x · 09-25-2009, 04:40 PM

thanks bro. local? lol

**Kampz69** · 09-25-2009, 04:51 PM

put that motor back together yet?

S10SittnonDUBS · 09-25-2009, 09:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x

thanks bro. local? lol

Nah not really but you said you got your motor in Spartanburg and I live in Clemson so, sorta. Southeast region at least!

1sic03x · 09-25-2009, 11:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69

put that motor back together yet?

Getting there

ok... not really

But I've been working on cleaning the heads up before they go out to get ported.

1sic03x · 09-25-2009, 11:23 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by S10SittnonDUBS

Nah not really but you said you got your motor in Spartanburg and I live in Clemson so, sorta. Southeast region at least!

Lol aight bro. Only on the forum here that I know of thats in Disgusta I mean Augusta..

1sic03x · 09-26-2009, 06:52 PM

Got the block painted up and working on the valve covers

LS2Sonoma · 09-26-2009, 08:29 PM

dood, send me your heads!

1sic03x · 09-26-2009, 09:41 PM

Haha whys that man?

...just need to get the parts so I can build her now

LS2Sonoma · 09-26-2009, 09:55 PM

cuz i rebuild em!

**Kampz69** · 09-26-2009, 09:57 PM

what paint did you use on the block/front cover? looks good

1sic03x · 09-26-2009, 10:12 PM

I'll send ya the heads off my next build Frank

Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69

what paint did you use on the block/front cover? looks good

Rustoleum Engine Enamel... I think it turned out great if I do say so myself

LS2Sonoma · 09-26-2009, 11:07 PM

alright then... so are you painting them too?

1sic03x · 09-26-2009, 11:08 PM

I also got a question, anybody have some tips on how to get a bolt with a broken head out of a head? One of the manifold bolts broke during disassembly

1sic03x · 09-26-2009, 11:10 PM

the heads? no. going to leave them like they are.

since you rebuild those heads Frank, you know what the intake and exhaust valve sizes are and length are on those 862 heads? I'm to lazy to go out and take the head off and measure them lol.

LS2Sonoma · 09-27-2009, 12:04 AM

that bolt will come out easily. use two hammers, position one against the bolt and smack it with the other. once you do that it should turn out fairly easy with some vice grips or channel locks. if it doesnt turn easy, try hitting it a bit harder

valve sizes are 1.900 and 1.550. not sure on the length, i never measure that lol

1sic03x · 09-27-2009, 12:30 AM

Alright I'll give that a try tomorrow. Also found the valve sizes right after I asked over on PerformanceTrucks.net... thanks though bud.

dart_06 · 09-27-2009, 11:48 AM

engine looks great man! i cant wait to do my 5.3 swap!!

**Kampz69** · 09-27-2009, 12:14 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma

that bolt will come out easily. use two hammers, position one against the bolt and smack it with the other. once you do that it should turn out fairly easy with some vice grips or channel locks. if it doesnt turn easy, try hitting it a bit harder

valve sizes are 1.900 and 1.550. not sure on the length, i never measure that lol

you mean you hit the actual thread side of the bolt? interesting method, never heard of it.

Xtremechubs · 09-27-2009, 12:37 PM

i had the same thing happen in my stock heads and when i was still going to use them. i got one out and the other one was stuck good so i took it to the machine shop and they got it out and had to repair the threads. It was only like $20 which was worth it since i was loosing my mind over the deal.

LS2Sonoma · 09-27-2009, 02:41 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69

you mean you hit the actual thread side of the bolt? interesting method, never heard of it.

no, you would hit it like driving the bolt into the head

**Kampz69** · 09-27-2009, 04:18 PM

cool, thanks for the info

dogger · 09-27-2009, 05:11 PM

If your looking for stock displacement 5.3 you could use stock 4.8 pistons to get the compression bumped up that's what gm did with there ho5.3
Are you planning on reving this motor very high? If you are I'd recomend changing the rods the truck rods arnt even as strong as the stock 5.7 rods.

1sic03x · 09-27-2009, 08:53 PM

Dogger, thanks for the info, I'm ordering parts right now so I'll look into some 4.8 pistons. Going to forged I-Beam rods...

Also, started work on tearing the heads down...

Petro · 09-27-2009, 09:52 PM

That's a nice well equipped roomy garage...

1sic03x · 09-27-2009, 10:15 PM

lol it helps. fills up quick when you have an addiction to harbor freight for equipment

LS2Sonoma · 09-27-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dogger

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Are you planning on reving this motor very high? If you are I'd recomend changing the rods the truck rods arnt even as strong as the stock 5.7 rods.

are you kidding? the rods are the same

theyre the same in the 5.3, 5.7, and 6.0 (LQ4, not LQ9)

not only that the stock rods will handle over 6000rpm reliably with some rod bolts

dart_06 · 09-27-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma

are you kidding? the rods are the same
theyre the same in the 5.3, 5.7, and 6.0 (LQ4, not LQ9)

not only that the stock rods will handle over 6000rpm reliably with some rod bolts

good to know!! thanks

1sic03x · 09-28-2009, 10:21 AM

Thanks for clearing that up Frank.

Anyone know if these pistons are good? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/STL-H856CP/ ... well, Federal Mogul, they any good? I've made my mind up on just running Hypereutectic Pistons, just trying to decide on what brand.

Petro · 09-28-2009, 03:28 PM

FD/Sealed Power is good for low budget/stock rebuild....I don't see any problems with them....But of course you could buy my 4.000 Bore boost pistons and go with a Big Turbo!!!!

1sic03x · 09-28-2009, 05:24 PM

Yeah, I believe I'll be going with the FM pistons. Priced out most of the parts I need for the rebuild excluding some things and I'm already up to $1k...

All well, its gonna be worth it

LS2Sonoma · 09-28-2009, 09:26 PM

we use those pistons quite often... there good, only thing i would say is that if your building something for racing or higher rpm that they need to be balanced. im sure they will be great for your build!

wotgtp · 09-29-2009, 01:22 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x

SAFETY GLASSES!!!!! Sorry flashbacks from school.

Your build is looking even better and i feel like getting a 5.3 on a stand to fill some space in my garage.

prater_1 · 09-29-2009, 02:26 AM

awsome build!!! cant wait to see more!!!

Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x

Yeah, I would recommend LKQ to anyone. The service for one is great from them. Thanks man.

do they ship?? whats their #??

1sic03x · 09-29-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by prater_1

awsome build!!! cant wait to see more!!!

do they ship?? whats their #??

http://www.lkqcorp.com/location/fulfill.asp?Exe=2 ... Choose a state to see what they have... Yes they ship.

1sic03x · 09-29-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by wotgtp

SAFETY GLASSES!!!!! Sorry flashbacks from school. Your build is looking even better and i feel like getting a 5.3 on a stand to fill some space in my garage.

Hahaha, yeah I suppose I should be wearing them... Buttt... I don't wanna

SoLowXtreme · 09-29-2009, 05:01 PM

looking GREAT so far man...i guess i'm gonna have to start a thread for my build now that i have progress on it

XDime99 · 09-29-2009, 05:30 PM

Where did you get that valve spring compressor from man? Oh... BTW you stole my paint scheme for my 5.3, im gonna paint mine up the exact same way you did yours, and using the same paint! lol

1sic03x · 09-29-2009, 10:15 PM

Thanks SoLowXtreme.

XDime99, Picked the valve spring compressor up from Autozone for $20.00, had to put it in the vice to squeeze the part that sits on the retainer cause it didn't fit very well.

09-23-2009, 09:24 AM	#51
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma yes it would be awesome to resleeve it 427!!! it'd be awesome if i had the money for that ... if i bore it, might do a 350.
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09-23-2009, 01:58 PM	#52
wotgtp Beware teh sharkbird Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,242 Location: Connecticut User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build I must say i'm really impressed with your build project, i'm on the fence of a 5.3 or a ls2(yeah i know ls2 pwnts all ) but the 5.3 is very cost effective and can still make great power. Good luck and hope it works as well as it looks!
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09-23-2009, 04:54 PM	#53
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build thanks buddy! i couldn't find a 6.0 under $850 at the same place i got my 5.3...
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09-23-2009, 11:45 PM	#54
wotgtp Beware teh sharkbird Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,242 Location: Connecticut User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build LS2? That's still not a bad deal. I've seen some on ebay for like $1,500+ with fairly low miles, tranny and harness.
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09-23-2009, 11:57 PM	#55
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,538 Location: Savannah, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by wotgtp LS2? That's still not a bad deal. I've seen some on ebay for like $1,500+ with fairly low miles, tranny and harness. The one he was referring to is probably a iron block not a aluminum....
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09-24-2009, 12:01 AM	#56
wotgtp Beware teh sharkbird Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,242 Location: Connecticut User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build LQ9? That's still and ok deal depending on the mileage. Reguardless of the 5.3 or 6.0 i have a ZR2 so i have alot of work ahead of me. Curse you 2wd's!!
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09-24-2009, 03:32 AM	#57
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build im in the same boat with the zr2... eagerly awaiting to do a swap >=] my buddy just bought a complete 6.0 for $450 (cdn) so those deals are still out there, just gotta find them
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09-24-2009, 11:24 AM	#58
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build $850 just for an 6.0 LQ9 from a Silverado or whatever. LS1's at the same place sold for $850 so I'm guessing $1200 or more if they even had an LS2.
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09-24-2009, 01:16 PM	#59
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build LQ9s are bloated in pricing, yards put quite a premium on them compared to the LQ4s. unfortunately the only "cheap" LQ4s i find by me are early 99-00 engines...newer engines are still around 1k at least
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09-24-2009, 02:03 PM	#60
wotgtp Beware teh sharkbird Age: 23 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,242 Location: Connecticut User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Depending on pricing i guess it would be wise to look into the 5.3, sorry OP for throwing the topic off course.
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09-24-2009, 02:49 PM	#61
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build haha its straight dude
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09-25-2009, 03:06 PM	#62
S10SittnonDUBS Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Cloud 9 User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Awesome build! Thumbs up for a local!!!
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09-25-2009, 04:40 PM	#63
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build thanks bro. local? lol
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09-25-2009, 04:51 PM	#64
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build put that motor back together yet?
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09-25-2009, 09:36 PM	#65
S10SittnonDUBS Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 342 Location: Cloud 9 User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by 1sic03x thanks bro. local? lol Nah not really but you said you got your motor in Spartanburg and I live in Clemson so, sorta. Southeast region at least!
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09-25-2009, 11:21 PM	#66
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69 put that motor back together yet? Getting there ok... not really But I've been working on cleaning the heads up before they go out to get ported.
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09-25-2009, 11:23 PM	#67
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by S10SittnonDUBS Nah not really but you said you got your motor in Spartanburg and I live in Clemson so, sorta. Southeast region at least! Lol aight bro. Only on the forum here that I know of thats in Disgusta I mean Augusta..
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09-26-2009, 06:52 PM	#68
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Got the block painted up and working on the valve covers
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09-26-2009, 08:29 PM	#69
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build dood, send me your heads!
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09-26-2009, 09:41 PM	#70
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Haha whys that man? ...just need to get the parts so I can build her now
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09-26-2009, 09:55 PM	#71
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build cuz i rebuild em!
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09-26-2009, 09:57 PM	#72
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build what paint did you use on the block/front cover? looks good
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09-26-2009, 10:12 PM	#73
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build I'll send ya the heads off my next build Frank Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69 what paint did you use on the block/front cover? looks good Rustoleum Engine Enamel... I think it turned out great if I do say so myself
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09-26-2009, 11:07 PM	#74
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build alright then... so are you painting them too?
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09-26-2009, 11:08 PM	#75
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build I also got a question, anybody have some tips on how to get a bolt with a broken head out of a head? One of the manifold bolts broke during disassembly
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09-26-2009, 11:10 PM	#76
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build the heads? no. going to leave them like they are. since you rebuild those heads Frank, you know what the intake and exhaust valve sizes are and length are on those 862 heads? I'm to lazy to go out and take the head off and measure them lol.
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09-27-2009, 12:04 AM	#77
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build that bolt will come out easily. use two hammers, position one against the bolt and smack it with the other. once you do that it should turn out fairly easy with some vice grips or channel locks. if it doesnt turn easy, try hitting it a bit harder valve sizes are 1.900 and 1.550. not sure on the length, i never measure that lol
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09-27-2009, 12:30 AM	#78
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Alright I'll give that a try tomorrow. Also found the valve sizes right after I asked over on PerformanceTrucks.net... thanks though bud.
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09-27-2009, 11:48 AM	#79
dart_06 live.. die.. nN get drunk Age: 22 Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,062 Location: orlando fl User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build engine looks great man! i cant wait to do my 5.3 swap!!
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09-27-2009, 12:14 PM	#80
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma that bolt will come out easily. use two hammers, position one against the bolt and smack it with the other. once you do that it should turn out fairly easy with some vice grips or channel locks. if it doesnt turn easy, try hitting it a bit harder valve sizes are 1.900 and 1.550. not sure on the length, i never measure that lol you mean you hit the actual thread side of the bolt? interesting method, never heard of it.
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09-27-2009, 12:37 PM	#81
Xtremechubs WTF!!!! Age: 24 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 213 Location: OKC User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build i had the same thing happen in my stock heads and when i was still going to use them. i got one out and the other one was stuck good so i took it to the machine shop and they got it out and had to repair the threads. It was only like $20 which was worth it since i was loosing my mind over the deal.
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09-27-2009, 02:41 PM	#82
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: Online	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69 you mean you hit the actual thread side of the bolt? interesting method, never heard of it. no, you would hit it like driving the bolt into the head
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09-27-2009, 04:18 PM	#83
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build cool, thanks for the info
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09-27-2009, 05:11 PM	#84
dogger Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 136 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build If your looking for stock displacement 5.3 you could use stock 4.8 pistons to get the compression bumped up that's what gm did with there ho5.3 Are you planning on reving this motor very high? If you are I'd recomend changing the rods the truck rods arnt even as strong as the stock 5.7 rods.
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09-27-2009, 08:53 PM	#85
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: [Project] MoPowa - 5.3 Build Dogger, thanks for the info, I'm ordering parts right now so I'll look into some 4.8 pistons. Going to forged I-Beam rods... Also, started work on tearing the heads down...
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