Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware

PEKO · 02-28-2007, 01:09 PM

Pertyyyyyy

david4991 · 02-28-2007, 01:15 PM

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PEKO · 03-01-2007, 01:14 PM

Plan on using the same intake manifold or going to something different? Sheetmetal etc

Black X · 03-01-2007, 01:36 PM

i'm gonna run the BBK SSI for a while. I would like to do a Fast 90mm eventually but the BBK is gonna have to stay for a bit.

PEKO · 03-01-2007, 01:47 PM

I love the new Wilson intake, Sheet Metal production intake cut with there 5 Axis. But for $3,000 not sure its worth it. Other choice would be the Hogans Sheet Metal intake. But again looking at over $2,500 Im one for going over kill plus I like the look of a sheet metal intake.

Black X · 03-01-2007, 01:55 PM

I would love to run that intake. unfortunatly I didn't win the lottery... I like the metal intakes because in the event of a nitrous backfire it wont shatter. I will very likely upgrade the intake some day but for now any shortcomings will be compensated with MORE BOTTLE!!!!

Black X · 03-05-2007, 10:10 PM

A few little updates.

Big96Zr2 · 03-05-2007, 10:34 PM

nice....

PEKO · 03-06-2007, 08:57 AM

$10 to anyone you can tell me what kind of heads hes using :-)

s10-den · 03-06-2007, 09:03 AM

looks like ls6 with some patriot work done on them,you can tell by the triangle by the sparkplug.Those are better than the ones without the triangle anyway.

Black X · 03-06-2007, 01:26 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO

$10 to anyone you can tell me what kind of heads hes using :-)

I know I know.... No give me my $10.00

PEKO · 03-06-2007, 02:53 PM

Ill write you a check lol BOING BOING BOING

PEKO · 03-06-2007, 02:54 PM

Did you paint the Valley cover? One pic its black and the other just metal.

Black X · 03-06-2007, 02:55 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO

Did you paint the Valley cover? One pic its black and the other just metal.

yes everthing has been painted

Rinkrat456 · 03-06-2007, 03:01 PM

It's perty. What ratio are the rockers?

Black X · 03-06-2007, 05:05 PM

Harland Sharps

jnoehl · 03-06-2007, 06:11 PM

thats a SICK setup thats just going to get even sicker! however, you trust those patriot heads with that big of a shot of juice?

what year is your truck? is that the bolt in currie rear or a custom?

s10-den · 03-06-2007, 07:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO

Ill write you a check lol BOING BOING BOING

gotcha....sounds about like me,empty wallets and broken parts,the story of my life..lol

s10-den · 03-06-2007, 07:10 PM

Shit,forgot to ask what cc the heads are.Patiot is who I am getting all my stuff from too,well,most of it.You running their cam too or?Im going to use the 585-585,dont rember the duration though

MINTSICK · 03-06-2007, 07:36 PM

Awesome, I love the buildup stages of an engine and pictures that follow during assembly!

I think someone else already asked but I will ask it again, is the 9" a bolt in for the s10?

spaseghost · 03-06-2007, 07:46 PM

blackx, i hate you...subscribed

Lowsonoma03 · 03-06-2007, 08:13 PM

yeah i believe they are bolt ins, but dont quote me on that!

BlackX, you were the one i met at the canada meet 2 summers ago right? I thought you used to live in NY....:dunn0:

Black X · 03-06-2007, 10:12 PM

Hey Guys... The 9" is a complete unit... I would not call it a bolt in. It does not come with all of the parts needed but YES it does fit. It is the s-10 unit they offer.

The patriot heads are Stage II LS6 units. 64cc chambers and Yeah I Trust them with a 200 hit. I trusted my stock internal 5.3L to a 200 hit, it should be a cake walk for this motor.

lownslow1988 · 03-06-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Competition Engeneering Slide-A-Links... Much better then caltracs in my opinion.

why do you say that?? i only ask because i just ordered a set of caltracs because everyone raves about how good they are

Black X · 03-06-2007, 10:38 PM

The last breath of the 5.3L before it goes into XXXXXXX 'S Little blazer

As you can tell from the Steam its a little chilly up here -20*

Black X · 03-06-2007, 11:17 PM

Here is a Vid taken of the track setup Right at the end of race season.

Black X · 03-06-2007, 11:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by lownslow1988

why do you say that?? i only ask because i just ordered a set of caltracs because everyone raves about how good they are

Just a matter of my opinion on the design. Cal tracs are excellent I personally like a few of the design features in the Comp Eng. ones better myself.

guhman2002 · 03-06-2007, 11:42 PM

So I take it you like the new LS blocks :-) or have you just been fortunate on finding them at good deals?

PEKO · 03-06-2007, 11:48 PM

What rear brakes are those on the Currie rear? Explorer Discs?

Rinkrat456 · 03-06-2007, 11:49 PM

Cubic inch for cubic inch, LSx motors will make more power than the same size Gen II small block simply because of all the extra technology put into the block.

A lot of info, but check this out if you want to know the differences.
Gen III GM Small Block, Doug Anderson, Engine Builder, April 2005

Black X · 03-07-2007, 12:12 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO

What rear brakes are those on the Currie rear? Explorer Discs?

The disks are 11" explorer disks, with Earl's Braided stainless lines and lokar parking cables.

Black X · 03-07-2007, 12:16 AM

UPDATE on the teardown.

4 hours in,

Bumper removed, Grille Removed. Intake, fuel rails, injectors, throttle body, intake tubing, coils, water pump, power steering bracket, alternator.....

All removed

Rinkrat456 · 03-07-2007, 12:24 AM

Wow, I just noticed you have the A/C compressor mounted high in the accessory bracket, vs down near the passenger frame like all other LSx S10 swaps I've seen. Could you elaborate on that? I hate notching frames, so it would be helpful to know when the 6.0L goes in my truck in a few months.

lownslow1988 · 03-07-2007, 12:25 AM

project is looking good......can you get some more pics of the rear end setup?? escpecially the brakes...i wanna put discs on my 9" and the thought of explorer brakes never popped into my head until you mentioned it......is it a bolt on job or is there specialty pieces involved??

Rinkrat456 · 03-07-2007, 12:30 AM

Ok, another question. How did you get your 5.3 to sit so low?

When looking at this guys Envoy 5.3 in his 4x4, he even had to put in a body lift so the hood would close.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9215/hpim0702gm5.jpg
Full link>>http://www.s10forum.com/forum/3848805-post77.html
What do you think you did differently?

Black X · 03-07-2007, 12:46 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rinkrat456

Ok, another question. How did you get your 5.3 to sit so low?

When looking at this guys Envoy 5.3 in his 4x4, he even had to put in a body lift so the hood would close.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9215/hpim0702gm5.jpg
Full link>>http://www.s10forum.com/forum/3848805-post77.html
What do you think you did differently?

he is using the truck intake. There is no intake on mine in the picture. that would make it look a lot lower. also no coils ect.

As far as the AC setup its from street and performance. I didnt cut or notch ANYTHING!

Black X · 03-07-2007, 12:47 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by lownslow1988

project is looking good......can you get some more pics of the rear end setup?? escpecially the brakes...i wanna put discs on my 9" and the thought of explorer brakes never popped into my head until you mentioned it......is it a bolt on job or is there specialty pieces involved??

the disks are a bolt on to the rear end. You have to plumb new lines and parking brake cables. And they are only a direct bolt on if you have the torino style ends on your housing.

Rinkrat456 · 03-07-2007, 12:51 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

As far as the AC setup its from street and performance. I didnt cut or notch ANYTHING!

That's the best way to go. The S-truck frame is already weak enough when talking 400hp+, so notching the frame rails and crossmember for the pan and A/C compressor is just a dumb idea, IMO. I could probably get away with more notching since my suspension relies on the frame rails but still, in a lifted truck or 1/4 mile truck situation stresses are far more than on a daily driver.

Did you machine your own bracket or did it come with a kit of some kind?

Black X · 03-07-2007, 12:54 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rinkrat456

That's the best way to go. The S-truck frame is already weak enough when talking 400hp+, so notching the frame rails and crossmember for the pan and A/C compressor is just a dumb idea, IMO. I could probably get away with more notching since my suspension relies on the frame rails but still, in a lifted truck or 1/4 mile truck situation stresses are far more than on a daily driver.

Did you machine your own bracket or did it come with a kit of some kind?

its from Welcome to Street and Performance its a kit. I had to build the lines though

lownslow1988 · 03-07-2007, 01:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

the disks are a bolt on to the rear end. You have to plumb new lines and parking brake cables. And they are only a direct bolt on if you have the torino style ends on your housing.

can you get a pic of your ends so i can compare them to mine and see what i have??

Black X · 03-07-2007, 01:18 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by lownslow1988

can you get a pic of your ends so i can compare them to mine and see what i have??

Have a look on the currie website. I think they have diagrams of both. or search torino housing ends in google. I will see if i have a pic of the ends.

dimerunner88 · 03-07-2007, 03:15 AM

blackx your truck is teh sex. *subscribes*

s10-den · 03-07-2007, 07:52 AM

I mean just get in there and get the motor out next time,lol...You will like the heads on that 6oh!

rojo_143 · 03-07-2007, 08:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

As far as the AC setup its from street and performance. I didnt cut or notch ANYTHING!

what did you do for an oil pan setup(as far as modifing the pan) and which pan did you use?

Rompn · 03-07-2007, 11:43 AM

Awesome buildup.

If your already tearing apart the "old" engine, you must have the new one pretty close to complete. Anymore pic's?

Black X · 03-07-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rojo_143

what did you do for an oil pan setup(as far as modifing the pan) and which pan did you use?

The Pan is a modified truck setup. I have posted some pictures on the forum of it.

Black X · 03-07-2007, 02:00 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Rompn

Awesome buildup. If your already tearing apart the "old" engine, you must have the new one pretty close to complete. Anymore pic's?

The New one is ready to go less the timing cover. the one that came with it had a crack but I should have a new one this week.

Rompn · 03-07-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

The New one is ready to go less the timing cover. the one that came with it had a crack but I should have a new one this week.

Good to hear...

Now what about the pic's?

Black X · 03-07-2007, 02:54 PM

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...d/DSC00785.jpg

Please ignore the damn ugly timing cover. Its cracked and being replaced.

Rompn · 03-07-2007, 02:58 PM

Awesome, thanks. Looking goooooooood.

02-28-2007, 01:09 PM	#51
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03-01-2007, 01:14 PM	#53
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Plan on using the same intake manifold or going to something different? Sheetmetal etc
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03-01-2007, 01:36 PM	#54
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware i'm gonna run the BBK SSI for a while. I would like to do a Fast 90mm eventually but the BBK is gonna have to stay for a bit.
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03-01-2007, 01:47 PM	#55
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware I love the new Wilson intake, Sheet Metal production intake cut with there 5 Axis. But for $3,000 not sure its worth it. Other choice would be the Hogans Sheet Metal intake. But again looking at over $2,500 Im one for going over kill plus I like the look of a sheet metal intake. Last edited by PEKO : 03-01-2007 at 01:53 PM.
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03-01-2007, 01:55 PM	#56
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware I would love to run that intake. unfortunatly I didn't win the lottery... I like the metal intakes because in the event of a nitrous backfire it wont shatter. I will very likely upgrade the intake some day but for now any shortcomings will be compensated with MORE BOTTLE!!!!
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03-05-2007, 10:10 PM	#57
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware A few little updates.
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03-06-2007, 08:57 AM	#59
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware $10 to anyone you can tell me what kind of heads hes using :-)
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03-06-2007, 09:03 AM	#60
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,705 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware looks like ls6 with some patriot work done on them,you can tell by the triangle by the sparkplug.Those are better than the ones without the triangle anyway. Last edited by s10-den : 03-06-2007 at 09:08 AM.
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03-06-2007, 01:26 PM	#61
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO $10 to anyone you can tell me what kind of heads hes using :-) I know I know.... No give me my $10.00
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03-06-2007, 02:53 PM	#62
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Ill write you a check lol BOING BOING BOING
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03-06-2007, 02:54 PM	#63
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Did you paint the Valley cover? One pic its black and the other just metal.
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03-06-2007, 02:55 PM	#64
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO Did you paint the Valley cover? One pic its black and the other just metal. yes everthing has been painted
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03-06-2007, 03:01 PM	#65
Rinkrat456 Lifted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 986 Location: Woodbury, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware It's perty. What ratio are the rockers?
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03-06-2007, 05:05 PM	#66
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Harland Sharps
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03-06-2007, 06:11 PM	#67
jnoehl Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 365 Location: New Orleans, La User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware thats a SICK setup thats just going to get even sicker! however, you trust those patriot heads with that big of a shot of juice? what year is your truck? is that the bolt in currie rear or a custom?
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03-06-2007, 07:06 PM	#68
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,705 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO Ill write you a check lol BOING BOING BOING gotcha....sounds about like me,empty wallets and broken parts,the story of my life..lol
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03-06-2007, 07:10 PM	#69
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,705 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Shit,forgot to ask what cc the heads are.Patiot is who I am getting all my stuff from too,well,most of it.You running their cam too or?Im going to use the 585-585,dont rember the duration though
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03-06-2007, 07:36 PM	#70
MINTSICK Akerfeldt Age: 28 Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,598 Location: Somerville, Ma User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Awesome, I love the buildup stages of an engine and pictures that follow during assembly! I think someone else already asked but I will ask it again, is the 9" a bolt in for the s10?
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03-06-2007, 07:46 PM	#71
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03-06-2007, 08:13 PM	#72
Lowsonoma03 Registered Asshole Age: 24 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,476 Location: Erie, PA User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware yeah i believe they are bolt ins, but dont quote me on that! BlackX, you were the one i met at the canada meet 2 summers ago right? I thought you used to live in NY....:dunn0:
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03-06-2007, 10:12 PM	#73
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Hey Guys... The 9" is a complete unit... I would not call it a bolt in. It does not come with all of the parts needed but YES it does fit. It is the s-10 unit they offer. The patriot heads are Stage II LS6 units. 64cc chambers and Yeah I Trust them with a 200 hit. I trusted my stock internal 5.3L to a 200 hit, it should be a cake walk for this motor.
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03-06-2007, 10:33 PM	#74
lownslow1988 ALMOST DONE Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,368 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by Black X Competition Engeneering Slide-A-Links... Much better then caltracs in my opinion. why do you say that?? i only ask because i just ordered a set of caltracs because everyone raves about how good they are
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03-06-2007, 10:38 PM	#75
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware The last breath of the 5.3L before it goes into XXXXXXX 'S Little blazer As you can tell from the Steam its a little chilly up here -20* Last edited by Black X : 03-06-2007 at 10:42 PM.
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03-06-2007, 11:17 PM	#76
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Here is a Vid taken of the track setup Right at the end of race season.
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03-06-2007, 11:19 PM	#77
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by lownslow1988 why do you say that?? i only ask because i just ordered a set of caltracs because everyone raves about how good they are Just a matter of my opinion on the design. Cal tracs are excellent I personally like a few of the design features in the Comp Eng. ones better myself.
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03-06-2007, 11:42 PM	#78
guhman2002 Nitto1320 M O D Age: 21 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,563 Location: Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware So I take it you like the new LS blocks :-) or have you just been fortunate on finding them at good deals?
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03-06-2007, 11:48 PM	#79
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware What rear brakes are those on the Currie rear? Explorer Discs?
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03-06-2007, 11:49 PM	#80
Rinkrat456 Lifted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 986 Location: Woodbury, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Cubic inch for cubic inch, LSx motors will make more power than the same size Gen II small block simply because of all the extra technology put into the block. A lot of info, but check this out if you want to know the differences. Gen III GM Small Block, Doug Anderson, Engine Builder, April 2005
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03-07-2007, 12:12 AM	#81
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Quote: Originally Posted by PEKO What rear brakes are those on the Currie rear? Explorer Discs? The disks are 11" explorer disks, with Earl's Braided stainless lines and lokar parking cables.
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03-07-2007, 12:16 AM	#82
Black X 9.38@153.6 Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,635 Location: CANADA! User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware UPDATE on the teardown. 4 hours in, Bumper removed, Grille Removed. Intake, fuel rails, injectors, throttle body, intake tubing, coils, water pump, power steering bracket, alternator..... All removed
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03-07-2007, 12:24 AM	#83
Rinkrat456 Lifted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 986 Location: Woodbury, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Wow, I just noticed you have the A/C compressor mounted high in the accessory bracket, vs down near the passenger frame like all other LSx S10 swaps I've seen. Could you elaborate on that? I hate notching frames, so it would be helpful to know when the 6.0L goes in my truck in a few months.
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03-07-2007, 12:25 AM	#84
lownslow1988 ALMOST DONE Age: 25 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,368 Location: NJ User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware project is looking good......can you get some more pics of the rear end setup?? escpecially the brakes...i wanna put discs on my 9" and the thought of explorer brakes never popped into my head until you mentioned it......is it a bolt on job or is there specialty pieces involved??
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03-07-2007, 12:30 AM	#85
Rinkrat456 Lifted Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 986 Location: Woodbury, MN User is: OffLine	Re: Project "Darkhorse" Spy Photo's!!!! 56K beware Ok, another question. How did you get your 5.3 to sit so low? When looking at this guys Envoy 5.3 in his 4x4, he even had to put in a body lift so the hood would close. http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9215/hpim0702gm5.jpg Full link>>http://www.s10forum.com/forum/3848805-post77.html What do you think you did differently? Last edited by Rinkrat456 : 03-07-2007 at 12:33 AM.
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