Project: 1st Gen Six Speed

mr spree · 10-14-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

x2 on that. I did take a small sheetmetal piece, siliconed the old shifter hole shut and than pop rivet'ed it shut.

yea i did the same thing with the old shifter hole. i wonder what i could do to fill around the shifter

GreaseMonkey83 · 10-15-2009, 12:59 PM

That looks a little too far back for me, im using split bench seats out of a newer extreme so i think the shifter might get in the way of those if i leave it like it is. I guess ill just have to use the shifter reloction kit i bought. Ill be using the stock rubber boot to with a kiesler shifter and custom throw arm. Im pretty sure if i move the shifter to the front inspection cover that i can use the stock hole so that should be nice. Thanks for pics!!

turbobandit · 10-15-2009, 06:05 PM

i know how to fix it...

THEN... throw some of these in.

My shifter only had to be moved back about 4-5 inches. It's a 2nd gen though

turbobandit · 10-15-2009, 06:06 PM

Also... isn't there a differance between a GTO and an F body shifter? One farther forward than the other?

mr spree · 10-15-2009, 06:21 PM

Yea the GTO shifter Is further back if i remember right.
How did you go about sealing around the floor and the shifter?

mr spree · 10-15-2009, 09:39 PM

Here are the headers installed. The collector on the driver side will need to change though since it wont allow the Oil Filter to screw on.

Passenger Side:

Driver Side:

chaospartners · 10-15-2009, 09:57 PM

Damn this is going to be sweet!!

chaospartners · 10-16-2009, 03:20 PM

Any new progress?

mr spree · 10-16-2009, 03:24 PM

No pictures yet. ill be out there running fuel lines and installing the radiator into the core support

chaospartners · 10-16-2009, 03:31 PM

Random question but what tire size are u running on ur factory wheels!

mr spree · 10-16-2009, 03:37 PM

235/60/14

...yes im still rockin the 14's and i like them very much haha

chaospartners · 10-16-2009, 07:50 PM

They done look to bad with the right size tire, im gon be taking my wheels off soon and need some new tire on my factory wheels and i think urs look good!!

art · 10-16-2009, 08:35 PM

what headers are you using? did you get brp headers along with the cross member?

mr spree · 10-16-2009, 10:59 PM

no i got the headers from s10v8.com

chaospartners · 10-16-2009, 11:00 PM

Any new pics?

mr spree · 10-16-2009, 11:07 PM

nope! hooked the fuel lines up and trying to find the best way to go about installing the radiator. It doesnt go in as nicely unlike 2nd gens

turbobandit · 10-17-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree

Yea the GTO shifter Is further back if i remember right.
How did you go about sealing around the floor and the shifter?

Same as you... i used that big foam donut from the stock shifter.

The forward section, i used some sheet metal, and tack welded around the edge. Then used Home Heater Ducting tape to seal it up. Then put some 1" thick insulation, then more ducting tape. so its pretty much water proofed.

mr spree · 10-17-2009, 02:11 AM

i dont have that foam thing anymore so i havent sealed it yet

llorracs93s10 · 10-18-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree

nope! hooked the fuel lines up and trying to find the best way to go about installing the radiator. It doesnt go in as nicely unlike 2nd gens

did you get the ''forward position'' mounts for the radiator from JTR? I dont remember seeing what u said u were using for a radiator, but i used their aftermarket late 80's vette radiator and than i just trimmed the bottom of the support than put a new hole in the top.

mr spree · 10-18-2009, 09:01 PM

i have the radiator from CPW which sits inside the core support already and uses the stock stuff to keep it in

llorracs93s10 · 10-18-2009, 09:13 PM

gotcha. Well looks like your spending ur money right, so keep that going, dont skimp on things, or else u will regret it like i did with my PS pump, lol

mr spree · 10-18-2009, 09:28 PM

what happened with your PS pump?

llorracs93s10 · 10-18-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree

what happened with your PS pump?

i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later

chaospartners · 10-18-2009, 11:29 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later

So will it be a pain in the ass to take off?

mr spree · 10-19-2009, 03:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later

ah i see! yea ive ran into a couple things along the line of that on this build. Like you said if there seems to be a problem....fix it before moving onto something that will only make fixing that harder or more time consuming

llorracs93s10 · 10-19-2009, 03:37 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by chaospartners

So will it be a pain in the ass to take off?

its already done. I am just saying, it easier to replace a PS pump, water pump, egr valve, ect. with the motor out of the bay rather doing it in the engine bay. I am not saying replace everything and everything, but if u know something could or looks like its bad, doesnt hurt to do it now so u dont have to down the road. You know wat i mean

mr spree · 10-22-2009, 06:25 PM

some updates. its almost done, just putting the front back together and hooking up hoses and such. hopefully it starts!

oh and anyone have a cowl hood that would like to give me?

maybe sell me.....

llorracs93s10 · 10-22-2009, 09:07 PM

u can buy mine, so i can get a 4inch cowl hood, lol

NCRides · 10-22-2009, 10:14 PM

go fiberglass so you won't have to cut the inner frame to clear the alternator and throttle body...looking good

mr spree · 10-22-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

u can buy mine, so i can get a 4inch cowl hood, lol

is it fiberglass? pm me

chaospartners · 10-22-2009, 10:55 PM

Dude ur truck is awesome!! please make us a video of it running!! have u even had it started in the truck yet

mr spree · 10-22-2009, 11:14 PM

no havent tried starting it yet

zx9rgreen · 10-23-2009, 05:39 PM

looking good man.....

llorracs93s10 · 10-23-2009, 08:19 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree

is it fiberglass? pm me

nope, not fiberglass, steel.

mr spree · 10-27-2009, 02:47 AM

front end is pretty much done. its really hard to work on it when its RAINING outside...

chaospartners · 10-28-2009, 02:14 PM

looks awesome

turbobandit · 10-28-2009, 03:16 PM

coming along great man! Few more things, and you'll be ready for a joy ride!!!

I remember i had NO front end on, bed wasn't on, and battery wasnt even tied down... Soon as i got everything engine wise all done, i did a 100 foot burnout up my street! hahaha. Battery fell off, was draggnig on the ground, i found tools that fell out of somewhere all up and down my street... but dang, you have more patience than me! haha.

chaospartners · 10-28-2009, 09:58 PM

that motor fits really nice in there to!!

dcoogan · 10-28-2009, 10:17 PM

how about a youtube video of it in action ?

mr spree · 10-28-2009, 11:53 PM

Well its all done! just need to hook up the computer and start her up. I cranked it with the ignition without the computer hooked up just to make sure she would crank haha. Intake should be here tomorrow and then off to the exhaust shop.

oh yea...truck accesories with the stock hood

llorracs93s10 · 10-29-2009, 07:53 PM

nice man, im going to go out on a limb and say ''sleeper'' by the looks of the truck, lol. And did you do all this outside in ur driveway? if so mad props.

mr spree · 10-29-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

nice man, im going to go out on a limb and say ''sleeper'' by the looks of the truck, lol. And did you do all this outside in ur driveway? if so mad props.

sure did man, thanks!

chaospartners · 10-30-2009, 08:52 PM

u gotta give us some kinda video come on man!!! ur killing me

Petro · 11-02-2009, 10:26 PM

Time to change your sig and post vids!!!!

mr spree · 11-02-2009, 10:29 PM

i did thanks to you

hopefully i have a video this weekend. Just started and new job mon-fri.
Also check out my thread about no taillights!!! its killing me, i cant drive it at night

chaospartners · 11-03-2009, 12:48 AM

so how does it run?

AmericanMuscle · 11-03-2009, 01:09 AM

very clean, I like it alot.

turbobandit · 11-03-2009, 01:10 AM

Dude, you're killing ALL OF US!!!!!!
I Love how stock it looks all around, so cleaaaaaan.
VIDEOS! Ripper vids!

mr spree · 11-03-2009, 02:35 AM

she runs great! this clutch will take alot of getting used to though. Its the Spec 3 clutch and ive read its not a very street able clutch even though it says. You can't really slip this clutch very well.

Ill get some videos up as soon as possible. She does rip holly hell lol, alot different than my 2.8 i must say haha

chaospartners · 11-03-2009, 08:49 AM

Did u even slitley keep track of ur cost? how much u think u got in it from start to finish

10-14-2009, 11:35 PM	#51
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10 x2 on that. I did take a small sheetmetal piece, siliconed the old shifter hole shut and than pop rivet'ed it shut. yea i did the same thing with the old shifter hole. i wonder what i could do to fill around the shifter
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10-15-2009, 12:59 PM	#52
GreaseMonkey83 Registered User Age: 26 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed That looks a little too far back for me, im using split bench seats out of a newer extreme so i think the shifter might get in the way of those if i leave it like it is. I guess ill just have to use the shifter reloction kit i bought. Ill be using the stock rubber boot to with a kiesler shifter and custom throw arm. Im pretty sure if i move the shifter to the front inspection cover that i can use the stock hole so that should be nice. Thanks for pics!!
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10-15-2009, 06:05 PM	#53
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed i know how to fix it... THEN... throw some of these in. My shifter only had to be moved back about 4-5 inches. It's a 2nd gen though
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10-15-2009, 06:06 PM	#54
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Also... isn't there a differance between a GTO and an F body shifter? One farther forward than the other?
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10-15-2009, 06:21 PM	#55
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Yea the GTO shifter Is further back if i remember right. How did you go about sealing around the floor and the shifter?
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10-15-2009, 09:39 PM	#56
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Here are the headers installed. The collector on the driver side will need to change though since it wont allow the Oil Filter to screw on. Passenger Side: Driver Side:
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10-15-2009, 09:57 PM	#57
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Damn this is going to be sweet!!
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10-16-2009, 03:20 PM	#58
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Any new progress?
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10-16-2009, 03:24 PM	#59
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed No pictures yet. ill be out there running fuel lines and installing the radiator into the core support
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10-16-2009, 03:31 PM	#60
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Random question but what tire size are u running on ur factory wheels!
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10-16-2009, 03:37 PM	#61
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed 235/60/14 ...yes im still rockin the 14's and i like them very much haha
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10-16-2009, 07:50 PM	#62
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed They done look to bad with the right size tire, im gon be taking my wheels off soon and need some new tire on my factory wheels and i think urs look good!!
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10-16-2009, 08:35 PM	#63
art (.)(.) Age: 29 Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 391 Location: lafayette, In User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed what headers are you using? did you get brp headers along with the cross member?
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10-16-2009, 10:59 PM	#64
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed no i got the headers from s10v8.com
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10-16-2009, 11:00 PM	#65
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Any new pics?
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10-16-2009, 11:07 PM	#66
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed nope! hooked the fuel lines up and trying to find the best way to go about installing the radiator. It doesnt go in as nicely unlike 2nd gens
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10-17-2009, 01:07 AM	#67
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree Yea the GTO shifter Is further back if i remember right. How did you go about sealing around the floor and the shifter? Same as you... i used that big foam donut from the stock shifter. The forward section, i used some sheet metal, and tack welded around the edge. Then used Home Heater Ducting tape to seal it up. Then put some 1" thick insulation, then more ducting tape. so its pretty much water proofed.
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10-17-2009, 02:11 AM	#68
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed i dont have that foam thing anymore so i havent sealed it yet
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10-18-2009, 04:08 PM	#69
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree nope! hooked the fuel lines up and trying to find the best way to go about installing the radiator. It doesnt go in as nicely unlike 2nd gens did you get the ''forward position'' mounts for the radiator from JTR? I dont remember seeing what u said u were using for a radiator, but i used their aftermarket late 80's vette radiator and than i just trimmed the bottom of the support than put a new hole in the top. Last edited by llorracs93s10 : 10-18-2009 at 04:11 PM.
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10-18-2009, 09:01 PM	#70
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed i have the radiator from CPW which sits inside the core support already and uses the stock stuff to keep it in
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10-18-2009, 09:13 PM	#71
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed gotcha. Well looks like your spending ur money right, so keep that going, dont skimp on things, or else u will regret it like i did with my PS pump, lol
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10-18-2009, 09:28 PM	#72
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed what happened with your PS pump?
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10-18-2009, 11:15 PM	#73
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree what happened with your PS pump? i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later
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10-18-2009, 11:29 PM	#74
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10 i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later So will it be a pain in the ass to take off?
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10-19-2009, 03:28 AM	#75
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10 i didnt replace it even thought it was making noise, and it just crapped out on me, so instead of swapping it out after the motor was pulled out to get rebuilt, i didnt so even though it wasnt like it was a big deal, its stuff like that you dont want to over look. If u need to replace it, do it now rather than wait til later ah i see! yea ive ran into a couple things along the line of that on this build. Like you said if there seems to be a problem....fix it before moving onto something that will only make fixing that harder or more time consuming
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10-19-2009, 03:37 PM	#76
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by chaospartners So will it be a pain in the ass to take off? its already done. I am just saying, it easier to replace a PS pump, water pump, egr valve, ect. with the motor out of the bay rather doing it in the engine bay. I am not saying replace everything and everything, but if u know something could or looks like its bad, doesnt hurt to do it now so u dont have to down the road. You know wat i mean
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10-22-2009, 06:25 PM	#77
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed some updates. its almost done, just putting the front back together and hooking up hoses and such. hopefully it starts! oh and anyone have a cowl hood that would like to give me? maybe sell me.....
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10-22-2009, 09:07 PM	#78
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed u can buy mine, so i can get a 4inch cowl hood, lol
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10-22-2009, 10:14 PM	#79
NCRides Registered User Age: 53 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 292 Location: Amesbury Mass User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed go fiberglass so you won't have to cut the inner frame to clear the alternator and throttle body...looking good
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10-22-2009, 10:48 PM	#80
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10 u can buy mine, so i can get a 4inch cowl hood, lol is it fiberglass? pm me
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10-22-2009, 10:55 PM	#81
chaospartners Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,164 Location: Somewhere in Ohio User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Dude ur truck is awesome!! please make us a video of it running!! have u even had it started in the truck yet
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10-22-2009, 11:14 PM	#82
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed no havent tried starting it yet
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10-23-2009, 05:39 PM	#83
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 31 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,060 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed looking good man.....
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10-23-2009, 08:19 PM	#84
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,571 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed Quote: Originally Posted by mr spree is it fiberglass? pm me nope, not fiberglass, steel.
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10-27-2009, 02:47 AM	#85
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: Project: 1st Gen Six Speed front end is pretty much done. its really hard to work on it when its RAINING outside...
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