******PARTS LIST AND SWAP INFO FROM BLACK X****** LSX Swap.

[dodgeramguy1500]

how much was the swap all together with everything??

[black2002ls]

It is different for everyone. Depends on the parts used, mods done to the engine, Transmission used. I think its near impossible for someone to say YOU can do this swap for X dollars.

[Audio_Rookie]

I suppose so, I got a 86 s10 and am getting rid of my turbo omni.

I can get a good 5.3 with all everything (ecu, belts, accessories, and all) and the trans for around 1700$.

Hopefully I can do the entire swap for 3k or under.

I also am wondering what the weak points of the 4L60E tranny are.

For next year it will basically be a stock 5.3 with 150 or so of nitrous.

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by Audio_Rookie

I suppose so, I got a 86 s10 and am getting rid of my turbo omni.

I can get a good 5.3 with all everything (ecu, belts, accessories, and all) and the trans for around 1700$.

Hopefully I can do the entire swap for 3k or under.

I also am wondering what the weak points of the 4L60E tranny are.

For next year it will basically be a stock 5.3 with 150 or so of nitrous.

Eric Is that U?

[Audio_Rookie]

Maybe lol.

I am going to the dark side, got tired of front wheel drive stuff.

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by Audio_Rookie

Maybe lol.

I am going to the dark side, got tired of front wheel drive stuff.

Welcome Buddy!

you know how to get a hold of me if you need information.

[lgollakner]

one question for all the guys that have the corvette covers, did you just get the covers or is it the corvette ls1??? and what is the difference from getting the corvette ls1 or the camaro ls1?

[Black X]

No difference, just the accesory configuration really. You can purchace and install the Corvette covers on all the LS engines.

[guhman2002]

I think this is the whole package

19155066: ENGINE ACCESSORY DRIVE KIT - GEN 3

[Kampz69]

FYI, thats the LS1 accessories...i thought the LS2 part # was around here somewhere

EDIT: here it is...19155067, LS2/LS7

still no price though....really all that was different from the LS1/LS6 accessories was the water pump pulley right?

part # taken from this post.

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f10/20...1/#post3821919

[Black X]

Great input thanks guys

[Dmarsh525]

For those of you going from a fuel rail with a return on the rail to a returnless rail such as the later corvettes...and use the filter Black X supplies the part # for you will need this fitting to put in the Filter to use a -6 AN fuel like along with 1 of the russel fittings for the fuel rail itself on the intake.

http://www.nitrousoutlet.com/catalog...d uct_id=1682

that presses into the filter side u run the -6 AN braided fuel like from that to the russel fitting Black X shows in the first post and that clicks onto the fuel rail...and walla!! as far as the return like from the filter to the line headed back to the pump...i found a pice of stock GM line about a foot long with push on ends on both sides to use...

[automotive822001]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99 BUCKET

Since black X got off his ass and started this tread that is much over do I guess I should add my piece.

to start here is my photo album of the swap. some names and faces have been changed to protect the innocent:

cgmerriner/truck swap - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

I started with a 05 5.3 4l60e combo. with 13k miles on it. These were going in to my 99 reg. cab s-10 (it was an xtreme in it previous life) 400 miles after getting the swap done I had to rebuild it due to trash in #6 cyclinder. I will pick up from the rebuild with the motor. but will cover what I used to get to the swap done.

Motor:

05 5.3
all new bearings, new #6 piston, thunder racing cam package using adv. dur. 265/271 lift 522/529 lobe sep. 114deg
thunder racing push rods, with new valve springs. also went to ls7 lifters(fully jacketed roller) arp head bolts.

TRUCK intake i used from an 03. I converted the motor over to cable driven TB. I blocked of the egr plate on the side of the intake. I have ha no problems with this set up.

fuel system:

I used a walbro 255 pump in the stock tank with stock fuel lines to the filter. from the filter I used the same fittings that BlackX used, this carried -6 line all the way to and from the fuel rail (I am running a returned system) I used a fuel pressure gauge that I got from ebay in the shrader valve. no problems with the fuel system as of yet (future plans commith)

cooling:

I used becools automatic s-10 aluminum rad (I live in florida) with a flex-a-lite 210 fan set up. (used on another v8 sime I had too) factory t-stat and a big tranny cooler that is mounted in front on the core support. see pictures. I dont know what hoses I used, I bent coat hanger up the ravaged the parts house. I ended up using two piece to make one. I dont like it but it works ,and if anyone else has used the truck set up and found a good upper rad hose please let me know. no temperature issues yet.

wiring:

Currentperformance, enough said!!!!!

Accessory set up:

yes, the kriptonite of the s-10 lsx swap. I used 100% all 05 truck acc. set up. the frame was notched for the ac compressor. the pw steering cleared the box, and the alternater cleared the hood (with the help of a cut off wheel to some hood bracing) now this worked because of how my motor set in there. I took a shot in the dark and hit. I AM NOT SAYING IT WILL WORK FOR EVERYONE. but if you happen to have it all try it. I dont want a bunch of people pming me saying "you said this and you said that and it did not work for me, I spent all this money because of you." that said, that is why I am typing right now, to help you from my experience of my swap.

Exaust:

99 F-body manifolds, modified. from there I used a flowmaster 2.5" universal kit with all madural bends. pieced the the exaust together myself. runs over to the passenger side, h pipes the runs throught 2 magnaflow mufflers exiting with turndowns at the rear end.

Oil Pan:

I used the truck pan, I had a friend cut 2" out of the bottom and square off the front of the pan were it dips into the oil holding area. he also modified the pickup tube.


Coil packs:

I used some off a late model truck, they are more round and if you can find them and the holding brackets you will win! I myself robbed them off a friends truck and used them on mine, these jems DO NOT require you to relocate the rear coils!

Misc. notes:

I used jegs universal tranny x member to eliminate the factory bulk one, I used JTR lsx mounts (Current performace has them) 2.8 lower mounts with poly inserts. and a poly tranny mount. 4.3 cruse and throttle cable. factory blazer console with floor shifter. all the pictures I have posted are in the link i gave at the beginning.

Future Plans:

picked up a lap top couple weeks ago and hp tuners will be on its way. time for some real world tuning. (blackX I have to pick you brain on this)

8.5 rear end of this month, getting rid of vette wheels and starting the new suspension set up.




and the video

about how much grand total did you spend on the whole swap!

[KJF95S-10]

Hey, I just got an entire wrecked 2005 4wd yukon, with a low miles 5.3 for next to nothing. I have been reading into this heavily and the general concensus is to swap in a T56 if you want to go manual trans. I have a 95 S-10, 4.3, w 5 speed trans, I hear that the NV3500 has a hard time living up to the torque of a V8, but how weak are they really? I don't have the cash for a T56 at the moment since im buying everything else for the swap. All I really want to do to the 5.3 is put in an LS6 cam, headers, and maybe an LS6 intake down the road. I REALLY don't want an automatic.
Great writeup BTW

[s10-den]

save the rest and buy the t56,..dont half ass do it,youll regret it.

[Jonce007]

Quote: Originally Posted by Zerocool350

Do you have a part number for that coupler? I cant seem to find it on jtr website

^^^^He is referring to the Steam Vent couplers

For those wondering, you can order these online. Go to http://www.s10performance.com/S-10_Order.html and scroll down to the cooling section. Here is a chart of all the vent tee's http://www.s10performance.com/Pages/Parts_TPI-TBI_Brass-Tees.html

BTW guys, nice builds!

[RedLsxS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jonce007

^^^^He is referring to the Steam Vent couplers

For those wondering, you can order these online. Go to http://www.s10performance.com/S-10_Order.html and scroll down to the cooling section. Here is a chart of all the vent tee's http://www.s10performance.com/Pages/Parts_TPI-TBI_Brass-Tees.html

BTW guys, nice builds!

Looks like ceramic coated LS1 headers just got real cheap ! LOL

Must be a typo.

[02dime]

so did anyone else have probs with the rear 2 coils hittin the booster and heater housing? i thought it was supposed to clear

[RedLsxS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by 02dime

so did anyone else have probs with the rear 2 coils hittin the booster and heater housing? i thought it was supposed to clear

Are you using square or round coils?

[SweetS10V8]

Mine has the frame notched and the other popular way is to do it like Black X did his in his sticky.

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

A/C Setup
(Same as on my truck) Welcome to Street and Performance Approx Cost$ 550

[haulballs]

Hey I just figured I would throw this out there. I saw where some people had to buy a piece of quick connect line to attach to the corvette fuel filter outlet so they could get a russell adapter fitting to fit. Well after buying the corvette fuel filter, I returned it and tried one for a 03' 2.2L Flex fuel S-10 like BlackX's. If these pics uploaded correctly the first pic should be the corvette filter (Wix 33737) and the second should be the S-10 one (Wix 33100). The S-10 has the male quick connect outlet already, so all you have to do is snap on the russel fitting and you are good to go. I hope this all makes sense. Let me know what you guys think.

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by haulballs

Hey I just figured I would throw this out there. I saw where some people had to buy a piece of quick connect line to attach to the corvette fuel filter outlet so they could get a russell adapter fitting to fit. Well after buying the corvette fuel filter, I returned it and tried one for a 03' 2.2L Flex fuel S-10 like BlackX's. If these pics uploaded correctly the first pic should be the corvette filter (Wix 33737) and the second should be the S-10 one (Wix 33100). The S-10 has the male quick connect outlet already, so all you have to do is snap on the russel fitting and you are good to go. I hope this all makes sense. Let me know what you guys think.

Great information, I get asked all the time where to get the piece of quick connect line... I didnt use the vette filter because my truck has the filter shown.


Just for anyone needing information the 2.2L Flex fuel filter is GM PART# 15077584

[born2fly]

Quote: Originally Posted by cavmattz24

Looks like ceramic coated LS1 headers just got real cheap ! LOL

Must be a typo.

I just ordered a set right after I saw your reply above and the price stayed the same at the paypal check-out. So hopefully its correct.....

[RedLsxS10]

Quote: Originally Posted by born2fly

I just ordered a set right after I saw your reply above and the price stayed the same at the paypal check-out. So hopefully its correct.....

That would be pretty sweet if you actually got them for that price!!!! You'll have to post up when they arrive!

[AmericanMuscle]

damn, they fixed the typo...

[LOW S-10]

Can an A/C compressor off of an LSX be used as an EDC (Engine Driven Compressor)?

[sparkinak]

That would be better asked in the bagging section, From off the top of my head I want to say no.

[Christobevii3]

Is there a shorter dryer to use? It seems my a/c compressor like black x used is basically making it impossible to use the s10 one.

[s10-den]

Quote: Originally Posted by haulballs

Hey I just figured I would throw this out there. I saw where some people had to buy a piece of quick connect line to attach to the corvette fuel filter outlet so they could get a russell adapter fitting to fit. Well after buying the corvette fuel filter, I returned it and tried one for a 03' 2.2L Flex fuel S-10 like BlackX's. If these pics uploaded correctly the first pic should be the corvette filter (Wix 33737) and the second should be the S-10 one (Wix 33100). The S-10 has the male quick connect outlet already, so all you have to do is snap on the russel fitting and you are good to go. I hope this all makes sense. Let me know what you guys think.

anyone have anyidea off the top of their head what the price differ is?just wondering..

[haulballs]

My cost on the corvette was $39 and the S-10 was $43. They were both wix through my local parts depot. Hope this helps.

[tmclaughlin]

This is mostly for Black X since he seems to be the man on this. I am looking to do a 5.3 into a 99 S-10 ZR2. I was looking to use the stock tranny and pretty sure I need a bell housing adapter for it. Any idea what parts I need for this swap. I have email Jared for some info as well.

Thanks,

Tom

[SweetS10V8]

Quote: Originally Posted by tmclaughlin

This is mostly for Black X since he seems to be the man on this. I am looking to do a 5.3 into a 99 S-10 ZR2. I was looking to use the stock tranny and pretty sure I need a bell housing adapter for it. Any idea what parts I need for this swap. I have email Jared for some info as well.

Thanks,

Tom

There are a lot of people on here who know a lot of things, I wouldnt try to offend everyone right off the bat.

When you say stock tranny, what does that mean? Stock what.....2.2L, 4.3L, 5.3L???

[tmclaughlin]

Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8

There are a lot of people on here who know a lot of things, I wouldnt try to offend everyone right off the bat.

When you say stock tranny, what does that mean? Stock what.....2.2L, 4.3L, 5.3L???

Didn't mean to try to offend anyone. It is the stock tranny that came with the 4.3. I believe it is the 4L60

[kacy]

I saw someone askin bout doin this swapon a 1st gen 4x4 anyone doen it on a 2nd gen 4x4 or know of any links to parts for a 4x4?

[1badzq8]

Quote: Originally Posted by tmclaughlin

This is mostly for Black X since he seems to be the man on this. I am looking to do a 5.3 into a 99 S-10 ZR2. I was looking to use the stock tranny and pretty sure I need a bell housing adapter for it. Any idea what parts I need for this swap. I have email Jared for some info as well.

Thanks,

Tom

i am also interested would i be able to use a stock 4.3 5 speed im doin a 5.3 swap

[BUCKET]

i have no clue how much........

[01blzxtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by 1badzq8

i am also interested would i be able to use a stock 4.3 5 speed im doin a 5.3 swap

asked the same question and no you cant use it, its a small tranny and itll break it on the first gear, just upgrade to t56 or that other one i forgot the name of it, or go automatic......i think ill go with the t56 6speed if i get the money.....


and wow this thread is awesome everyone is helping out, and theres no bullshi** going around....most of the postings are questions and answers, and also ppl post in what has to be done and parts....the best thread ive read so far...
thanks for the help black x and also to the others i pmed lol

[tuckin22s]

Ok this may be a dumb question but yeah..................

I have a LS2 pan, picked up a oil filter for it, used the k&n book, looked up 02 z06 vette, and bought the one it specified. I tried to thread it on and it just barely gets on the first thread and pops off. I was just curious if I got the wrong filter or if my threads F*cked on the pan. Oh and I checked all the years from 02-05 and it says the same filter.

Oh and the threads on the pan dont look messed up.

[Thizz_Xtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by tuckin22s

Ok this may be a dumb question but yeah..................

I have a LS2 pan, picked up a oil filter for it, used the k&n book, looked up 02 z06 vette, and bought the one it specified. I tried to thread it on and it just barely gets on the first thread and pops off. I was just curious if I got the wrong filter or if my threads F*cked on the pan. Oh and I checked all the years from 02-05 and it says the same filter.

Oh and the threads on the pan dont look messed up.

Take it back and tell them its threaded wrong. then u know it for a fact if its just you or the filter

[Davy_Baby9]

Is the 4.3 TB cable the same in all years? My 91 s10 has the stock 4.3 TB cable still in it and its about 6" too long.

[Jonce007]

Quote: Originally Posted by Davy_Baby9

Is the 4.3 TB cable the same in all years? My 91 s10 has the stock 4.3 TB cable still in it and its about 6" too long.

You will need to buy a '02 or so S-10 4.3L throttle cable. I am finishing up my 1993 s10 with a '02 5.3L swap right now. I had to use a unibit or 5/8" drill bit to enlarge the factory square hole in the firewall for the throttle cable. My stock throttle cable used a square fitting for the firewall and the newer throttle cables use a circular fitting (or at least in my case). It will hook up just like stock, its about a 20 minute job or so.

As far as the cruise control, I need to figure that one out still. I never use cruise control so its not a big deal but it would be nice to have.

[blazeondubz]

Quote: Originally Posted by tuckin22s

Ok this may be a dumb question but yeah..................

I have a LS2 pan, picked up a oil filter for it, used the k&n book, looked up 02 z06 vette, and bought the one it specified. I tried to thread it on and it just barely gets on the first thread and pops off. I was just curious if I got the wrong filter or if my threads F*cked on the pan. Oh and I checked all the years from 02-05 and it says the same filter.

Oh and the threads on the pan dont look messed up.

i dont know if you figured this out yet but, that filter is the wrong one. i had the same problem with my ls2 pan, i went to murrays, autozone and advanced auto and they all said it required the same filter they were all wrong, I headed up to the dealership and they gave me the correct part number, i cant remember it off the top of my head but if you want i can go look in my garage

[BlackV8Blaze]

I've noticed that there is some questions about how to use a 700r4 with LSX engines and i forgot to post what i did so here it is. (originally posted by camaro1 under a different name in ls1tech)

1. the gm gen1,2 trans will bolt to the gen3 engines but you only use 5 bolts, the gen 3 engines do not use the middle bellhousing bolt on the pass side( no big deal)

2. you do not need a special flexplate, the curved 4.8,5.3,LS1- just need the t/c bolt holes ovaled out a bit and the 5.3 flex plates have a set of holes that match the small gm t/c bolt pattern perfect

- the 6.0 flat flex plate has the same t/c holes as the large gm pattern(th400 and most aftermarket th350 converters that have a dual t/c bolt pattern on them)

3. you need to use a crankshaft spacer when using a gen1,2 trans and converter there are 2 types:

- hughes gen3 crankshaft spacer part # hup-3795 $44 from summit/jegs, this spacer must be used with the curved 4.8,5.3,LS1 flexplates

- gm stock 6.0 crankshaft spacer 12563532 and longer bolts 12563533, this spacer can be used with either the flat or curved flexplate ( if using the curved style flexplate the flexplate goes on the crank first then the spacer goes on then the bolts, if using the flat 6.0 flexplate the spacer goes on the crankshaft first then the flexplate then the bolts)

now for my help
4. TV cable setup. I used the TV kit from Bowtie Overdrives, and I'm very happy with how it works. In order for this kit to work you must use a cable driven throttle body, either GM or BBK, although I am sure the kit can be modified to work with other cable TBs.

TV Kit available here http://www.bowtieoverdrives.com/cata...php?ITEMID=225

[BlackV8Blaze]

Unfortunately these are the only pics i have of my TV setup. The kit bolted up perfectly to the BBK TB but i had to fabricate a throttle cable/TV cable bracket because the bracket provided in the kit only works on the GM car intakes.

[lteone]

so what was the fitting need for the outlet of the vette filter/regulator? only thing i found was

Quote:

12" long piece of metal line with quick disconnects 3/8" at autozone $12.99 from fuel filter output to 3/8" 6an adapter

is there a more technical term then quick disconnects?

[automan88]

hi Guys! My name's Kevin. I'm from S-seriesforum.com and was looking for more information on this 5.3 swap. Glad to be a part of the site! I was just wondering about the wiring. What did you have to do to tie in the V8PCM to work with a 4.3 or stock truck BCM? did you have to cut/splice/modify wires to get the ignition key to work/radio/etc? Thanks for the help!

-Kevin

[Kampz69]

Quote: Originally Posted by automan88

hi Guys! My name's Kevin. I'm from S-seriesforum.com and was looking for more information on this 5.3 swap. Glad to be a part of the site! I was just wondering about the wiring. What did you have to do to tie in the V8PCM to work with a 4.3 or stock truck BCM? did you have to cut/splice/modify wires to get the ignition key to work/radio/etc? Thanks for the help!

-Kevin

read post #1

[automan88]

Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69

read post #1

So the new wiring harness with the 5.3 just plugs right into BCM then? I know you get a custom made ECM harness, but does it connect to other parts of the truck or does it just stay inside the engine compartment?

[Kampz69]

its just the engine harness and ECM. as far as i know, it will plug into the underhood fuse relay box on the right side. everything will work like it did stock; its a true plug-and-play harness.

[tanda10506]

Thanx for the list. Alot of it doesnt apply for me because Im using a carbureted LS1, but how did u get those brackets so cheap, I can not find anything near that and Im just trying to run an alternator.