*new* need a little help on a 6.0l build

[denali_on_26's]

i will introduce my self first...
my name is thomas manghelli and i live in mississippi,
i just finished building a turboed 2002 ford svt lightning and it made 719rwhp & 756rwtq on pump gas (93) and one month after completion the shop it was in burned to the ground (i did not have insurance........ stupid me but i was not driving the truck for 8 months) now i am gonna try to build something a little cheaper and hopefully faster with better fuel economy....lol
anyway here are a few pics of my lightning BEFORE and AFTER























i will be starting my build as soon as i find a single cab s10/sonoma...lol

i already have a 6.0l iron block with all forged internals and a ls6 crank, 317 heads ported with 30 thousands off, and a complete ls6 intake, along with a built 4l60e and all the wiring and computer out of a wrecked trans am!!!

what all will i NEED TO KNOW before i start...

the main thing that i want to do is keep AC and power strering.....O yea and low 10's high 9's!!!

[BUCKET]

thread at the top of this section has a lot of info and links to pics of swaps...

several different options, most are asked/covered in that thread...

nice truck but, wtf happened?

[Mr Peanut]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99 BUCKET

thread at the top of this section has a lot of info and links to pics of swaps...

several different options, most are asked/covered in that thread...

nice truck but, wtf happened?

X2

[V8Blaze]

wow thats sucky. but yea the stickys up top cover alot, and so do a few build threads.

also to find a local truck join up on latruckscene.net bunch of miss. guys on it, a few of them might be able to find u a second gen dime good luck on the build

[BUCKET]

were you located at btw?

[denali_on_26's]

on what happen....

all we have found out is something in the shop caught on fire when no one was around.... we lost 2 race cars 4 motors and a suburban and a 4-wheeler along with alot of tools and ods and ends

[denali_on_26's]

what kinda horse power numbers will i be shooting for to run low 10's high 9's

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99 BUCKET

were you located at btw?

Hattiesburg, MS

[BUCKET]

your about 3.5hr from me

check out black X turbo'd s10 he is running in the 10's 450rwhp (i think)
but race weight is about 4k lbs

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99 BUCKET

your about 3.5hr from me

check out black X turbo'd s10 he is running in the 10's 450rwhp (i think)
but race weight is about 4k lbs

4000 lbs....

my lightning only wieght 4800lbs STOCK WIEGHT.....

do you meen 3K lbs.... please say thats what you ment...lol
because i WILL NOT build a s10 if that is what they weight....

[BUCKET]

his is full over everything....stereo, roll cage, nine inch.

mine with a 5.3, and everything in it was 3400lbs. but that was ac/cruise/ amp/ speakers/ fully insulated cab.

but yea, you can get them down in weight

[denali_on_26's]

3400lbs..... makes me feel better..lol

[SweetS10V8]

The older '82-93 trucks weigh less, 2800lbs is easily attainable in those. My first one was 2880lbs with V8. The only weight savers were a fiberglass hood and roll pan.

[poconojoe]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

Hattiesburg, MS

I think one of my buddies from Myrtle Beach has family there, do you know any of the Wallers? I think his brother's name is Ricky
Good Luck on your build. By the way, are you sure the truck didn't start the fire? Ford had lots of recalls for the criuse control switches starting fires

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by 99 BUCKET

your about 3.5hr from me

check out black X turbo'd s10 he is running in the 10's 450rwhp (i think)
but race weight is about 4k lbs

LOL 450RWHP to Go 10's oh how I wish. do the math on 132MPH and 4000lbs


To the original poster, sorry about your truck man that is terribly heart breaking. My truck is a real 4000LBS but as 99 Bucket mentioned its full weight, stereo, subs, A/C cruise, Heat, 9", Cage, Bedliner, Spare tire all that crap.

Looking forward to seeing a build. Best of luck dude.

[Zerocool350]

Such a tragedy. Sorry to hear man. Good luck on the build. We will help the best we can

[RazorS10]

that sucks about your truck man. good luck on the 6.0 liter build?

[BUCKET]

yea X my bad on the hp #'s....hell I could not remember...lol

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by poconojoe

I think one of my buddies from Myrtle Beach has family there, do you know any of the Wallers? I think his brother's name is Ricky
Good Luck on your build. By the way, are you sure the truck didn't start the fire? Ford had lots of recalls for the criuse control switches starting fires

didn't have a battery in it for over a week and also i had the recall done a year and a half aho when i bought the truck

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

LOL 450RWHP to Go 10's oh how I wish. do the math on 132MPH and 4000lbs


To the original poster, sorry about your truck man that is terribly heart breaking. My truck is a real 4000LBS but as 99 Bucket mentioned its full weight, stereo, subs, A/C cruise, Heat, 9", Cage, Bedliner, Spare tire all that crap.

Looking forward to seeing a build. Best of luck dude.

um i'm not that good with math but my lightning with 719rwhp @ 4500lbs went 10's@133mph so i'm guessing you have in the low to mid 600's????

how hard is it to get a 6liter s10 into the low 10's??? fuel injected and keep good drivability???

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

um i'm not that good with math but my lightning with 719rwhp @ 4500lbs went 10's@133mph so i'm guessing you have in the low to mid 600's????

how hard is it to get a 6liter s10 into the low 10's??? fuel injected and keep good drivability???

Not Very difficult with the right package I would say. Still kicking down 26-27mpg Highway on mine right now. Smallish cam and a healthy turbo.

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Not Very difficult with the right package I would say. Still kicking down 26-27mpg Highway on mine right now. Smallish cam and a healthy turbo.

what size turbo are you running? and is there anyway i can see GOOD pictures of your turbo setup...(i have been searching but that could go in for hours..lol)

if my money allows me i would LOVE to do a turbo on this project but if it doesn't i guess i will just use the bottle

what transmission, injectors, and pumps are you using?

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

what size turbo are you running? and is there anyway i can see GOOD pictures of your turbo setup...(i have been searching but that could go in for hours..lol)

if my money allows me i would LOVE to do a turbo on this project but if it doesn't i guess i will just use the bottle

what transmission, injectors, and pumps are you using?

Bottle works too. I was going 10.60's on bottle with the same motor setup last year but it was 11.2:1 instead of the dished piston I have now.

My transmission is a Finishline Level 5 4L60E with billet output shaft, parts supplied by Finishline and assembled by me.

Currently running Motron 60#'s , Fuel pump is stock 2.2L Flex fuel pump. I found the end of it though... Wont do 15psi

I have never posted any pics of the setup on the truck. I havent really gotten any good ones. I have some that arent so great of it when it was pretty dirty under there. I will have to upload and send them to you.

Not sure if your aware but my setup is rear mounted.

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Bottle works too. I was going 10.60's on bottle with the same motor setup last year but it was 11.2:1 instead of the dished piston I have now.

My transmission is a Finishline Level 5 4L60E with billet output shaft, parts supplied by Finishline and assembled by me.

Currently running Motron 60#'s , Fuel pump is stock 2.2L Flex fuel pump. I found the end of it though... Wont do 15psi

I have never posted any pics of the setup on the truck. I havent really gotten any good ones. I have some that arent so great of it when it was pretty dirty under there. I will have to upload and send them to you.

Not sure if your aware but my setup is rear mounted.

lol... the motor does not know where the boost is coming from all it knows is it is there!!!
i planned on 60#ers and a walbro 255 (i have 2 that i salvaged from my lightning anlong with the 2 stock 190's) what about a MAF and fuil rails and lines? what hp are you at with running your 10.4x times??? and what cubic inch are you??


MAN.... i'm nosey

i would love to see pics to get some ideas

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

lol... the motor does not know where the boost is coming from all it knows is it is there!!!
i planned on 60#ers and a walbro 255 (i have 2 that i salvaged from my lightning anlong with the 2 stock 190's) what about a MAF and fuil rails and lines? what hp are you at with running your 10.4x times??? and what cubic inch are you??


MAN.... i'm nosey

i would love to see pics to get some ideas

6.0L Punched .030" over. So its a 370 Cube motor. I am running a Custom 2bar Speed Density operating system on the stock computer so I dont run a MAF. Slock LS1 rails. By the math its flirting with the 700 range to do what its doing. I should really take some time to get it on the dyno again, been busy at the shop though and fitting personal stuff on hasnt been easy... Although my vibe made 109RWHP LOL

[BUCKET]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Although my vibe made 109RWHP LOL

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

6.0L Punched .030" over. So its a 370 Cube motor. I am running a Custom 2bar Speed Density operating system on the stock computer so I dont run a MAF. Slock LS1 rails. By the math its flirting with the 700 range to do what its doing. I should really take some time to get it on the dyno again, been busy at the shop though and fitting personal stuff on hasnt been easy... Although my vibe made 109RWHP LOL

stock rails...WOW

ok i thought a 6.0l was 370 cube (i have a lot to learn) or is there a difference in aluminun and iron block cubes?? i have a iron block with 317 casting heads ported and 30 thousands taken off for higher compression (i wouldn't had done that but got the whole setup SUPER cheap) the short block is all forged with flat top pistons w/ valve reliefs, i also have a ls6 intake with stock f-body throttle body and fuel rails....

what would you do with this setup..(change heads or pistons and turbo it or leave it alone and turbo it or just leave it be and spay the shit out of it..lol) this will be a STREET TRUCK with drag truck suspention.. ok ok maybe a drag truck with a/c and power stearing and over drive...LMAO

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

stock rails...WOW

ok i thought a 6.0l was 370 cube (i have a lot to learn) or is there a difference in aluminun and iron block cubes?? i have a iron block with 317 casting heads ported and 30 thousands taken off for higher compression (i wouldn't had done that but got the whole setup SUPER cheap) the short block is all forged with flat top pistons w/ valve reliefs, i also have a ls6 intake with stock f-body throttle body and fuel rails....

what would you do with this setup..(change heads or pistons and turbo it or leave it alone and turbo it or just leave it be and spay the shit out of it..lol) this will be a STREET TRUCK with drag truck suspention.. ok ok maybe a drag truck with a/c and power stearing and over drive...LMAO

Well I say hammer the shit outta it with the bottle and Current Performance's New Longtubes you should be laughing.

The Iron and Alum 6.0's are very much the same. they are 364 cubes in stock trim.

[denali_on_26's]

i just loved the pull from the turbo and the BOV was real fun too... maybe i will bottle feed it untill i can afford a turbo...lol

how far above sea level are you when you are on the drag strip... i will be at sea level!!

[Black X]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

i just loved the pull from the turbo and the BOV was real fun too... maybe i will bottle feed it untill i can afford a turbo...lol

how far above sea level are you when you are on the drag strip... i will be at sea level!!

Static Elevation is 2200 Feet here. Im headed to the track in about an hour. The DA right now is 5000 Feet

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Black X

Static Elevation is 2200 Feet here. Im headed to the track in about an hour. The DA right now is 5000 Feet

so same set-up here you would be quicker...right???


let me know how it goes

[denali_on_26's]

ok well i just found a 97 single cab step side s10 needs paint but has good title and 125,000 on the clock... is it worth $1000????

[jnoehl]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

ok well i just found a 97 single cab step side s10 needs paint but has good title and 125,000 on the clock... is it worth $1000????

yeah if its in decent running condition i would definitely think so

[556mm]

welcome to the forum. sorry about ur lightning. good luck on your 6.0 build.

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnoehl

yeah if its in decent running condition i would definitely think so

it does not run.... i want it only to put a 6.0 in... just don't wanna pay top dollar for a 97 s10 when i really want a 98+ for the dash and front end

[Yogi]

I would hold out for a '98.

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yogi

I would hold out for a '98.

lol... but i'm SO ready to start....

and now he said he would take $750 and the truck cranks just runs like crap but moves on its own power

[Yogi]

As you can tell from my sig, I'm a little partial to second gen. stuff.

Is Orlando too far to go for a 2002 (512 mi.)?

Or here's a '99 for only $850 but it is in Austell, GA (324 mi.).

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yogi

As you can tell from my sig, I'm a little partial to second gen. stuff.

Is Orlando too far to go for a 2002 (512 mi.)?

Or here's a '99 for only $850 but it is in Austell, GA (324 mi.).

i really really thank you for your help... but the 99 is $850 down and no credit check... and the 2002 is an extended cab... but who know i might do an extended cab

how much mare does a extra cab s10 weight than a single cab....and how much does a step side bed weight compared to a non step side???

[Yogi]

It says "$850" on the line where it says "Price" so it looks like $850 is the price and the "down payment".

[denali_on_26's]

Quote: Originally Posted by Yogi

It says "$850" on the line where it says "Price" so it looks like $850 is the price and the "down payment".

lol.. i will call them tomorrow but i doubt that.... truck looks good and obviosly runs so i could not imagine it being that cheap

[denali_on_26's]

i need to know the wieght difference between a scsb and a xcsb.... i have found a 97 4cyl. 5-speed single cab step side w/123,000 miles dont run good at all for $750 and a 2000 4 cyl. 5-speed extra cab 3rd. door w/75,000 miles and it runs good!!! for $1200...

someone please help me asap

[tiresmokinV8]

My full weight 2000 ext weighs 3800 with me in it so low 3600# w/o driver.

[denali_on_26's]

well 3800# with driver is still a 1000#'s less than my lightning without me and the low fuel light on...lol

i was in the mid-10's with 719rwhp in it so maybe 9's with this 6.0l on the kit with a 1000# lighter truck????

[SweetS10V8]

here is my old truck weight....

Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8

I got my truck up on a set of scales today. 1998 Sonoma ZQ8, 2.2L automatic, A/C, 60/40 seats, manual windows and locks, only mod is a fiberglass tonneau cover.

W/O driver, and full tank of gas.

Total Weight 3179 lbs

(FL) 924 lbs (FR) 914 lbs = 1838 lbs (57.8% Front)
(RL) 688 lbs (LR) 651 lbs = 1339 lbs (42.2% Rear)

Total left side weight 1612 lbs(50.8% Left) Total Right side weight 1565 lbs (49.3% Right)

I know I always wanted to know exactly what it weighed.

[denali_on_26's]

thanks that really helped alot!!!

so maybe 300lb difference between regular cab and extended cab???

how much can you spray a fully forged 6.oL iron block with forged internals(5140 I-beam rods) and all arp rod and head bolts?

[denali_on_26's]

anyone know about how much a 6.0L iron block with forged internals (5140 I-beam rods) and 12:1cr????

[Yogi]

Quote: Originally Posted by denali_on_26's

thanks that really helped alot!!!

so maybe 300lb difference between regular cab and extended cab???

how much can you spray a fully forged 6.oL iron block with forged internals(5140 I-beam rods) and all arp rod and head bolts?

Click here for a Silverado that runs at least a 175 shot and is running 10.03!

[denali_on_26's]

damn... maybe i can do that with 370cube in a s10 being he has a 114cube in a fullsize!!!

[Yogi]

If you can get the traction, it's possible!