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Old 09-17-2012, 08:22 PM   #1
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Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Ok guys I need some info again I just broke my third 7.5 rearend this weekend 1 torsen unit 1 axle and this weekend I got a ring gear and pinion. Ive been on here tring to see what everybody else is swapping to, some is going to a 9" some a 8.8 and some a 8.5 I dont want to go to a 9" I think its a little over kill for my set up I found a 99 S10 ZR2 4wd today at a local junk yard with the disc brakes and 3.42 gears It looks like the 8.5 rear end to me will this rear end hold up alot better than the 7.5 if I put a tru trac in it, are the axles 30 spline and if it is the 8.5 is all the internal parts the same as the 8.5 in the full size trucks, are they wider than the stock 7.5 axle flange to axle flange and also the spring perches I know this is alot of questions but I can get the ZR2 S10 rearend for 150.00.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

zr2 rear is way to wide and if it is a zr2 rear it's 3:73 gears.
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I'd do a ford 8.8
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Maybe you guys can clear this up for me. My buddy, who owns Antivenom, in FL, said that the ZR2 is the way to go and would allow me to run Corvette offset wheels without spacers. Seems that some think it is too wide.

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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Regular 4wd rearend I believe lets you run Vette wheels without a spacer.
As for OP, a ZR2 is gonna be SUPER WIDE!! I'd go with an 8.8 as well
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Yea I just measured the ZR2 rearend and my stock 7.5 the ZR2 measured 59 1/4" flange to flange and the stock 7.5 measured 54 1/4" flange to flange. so 5" difference so it would have to be narrowed for sure if i use it. Is there a 8.8 that will bolt right in as for as flange to flange width and spring perch width. And how well will the stock 31 spline axles, gears and posi unit hold up on the 8.8.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

How exspensive is it to have the 8.5 narrowed and can the axles be cut off and resplined are would I have to buy new axles if I have it narrowed.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

you broke them making 1.4-1.5 60ft?
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Aren't 2.5" spacers normal with vette wheels?
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

The regular 4WD rear is about 4" wider than the 2WD rear and the ZR2 rear is about 4" wider than the regular 4WD, so about 8" wider than the 2WD rear. If you can find it, there is a 2WD 8.5" rear. It came in the 5 speed Blazers. Personally, I'd swap to an 8.8 and be done with it.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

In that case I believe the OP has a regular 4wd rearend.

4x4's are 59", right? Would make sense as I know of guys running vette wheels on 4x4 1st gens with no spacers.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Man I just checked car-part.com, there are at least 10 8.5's from 2wd blazers near me. Most with lockers and under $300 bucks!

Check it out,
pick a 2002
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rear axle assembly (rwd)

The next page lets you pick the RPO code, 4x2 8 1/2 is even an option so you don't have to sort through the results!

Dang man, car-part is awesome. I never would have imagined they would have sorted the 8.5's from the 7.625's.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

yep 1.42 60ft is the best it has ever had, this weekend when it broke it was probably like a 1.55 or so 60ft. Is the 2wd blazer 8.5 about the same with as the stock S10 or is it wider
I really would like to keep the gm rear end in it so my 2 sets of wheels will work.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

2wd blazer rear ends are the same width. direct swap. i just put a 2wd blazer 7.5 in my truck. even has discs.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

what about the 8.5 in the blazers are they the same width as the 2wd S10
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yes.
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Get the parking brake cables with it.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Ok thanks I will check around in my area junk yards to see if i can find a 2wd blazer rear end about what year blazers do I need to look at.
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98+ 5 speeds? the newer the better chance there is it seems.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

I just swapped a 8.5 into my first gen. Very easy swap. They were in 98 - 05 i believe.
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I think any 4.3 5speed from like 96+ had a 8.5, didn't matter whether Blazer or truck. As far as wheels with a 8.8 go, you can have the axle flanges drilled for 5x4.75 wheels.
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Quote: Originally Posted by 91sonomast
I think any 4.3 5speed from like 96+ had a 8.5, didn't matter whether Blazer or truck. As far as wheels with a 8.8 go, you can have the axle flanges drilled for 5x4.75 wheels.
it was hit or miss on the trucks
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Quote: Originally Posted by badmofo529
it was hit or miss on the trucks
Really? Everyone I've seen in the scrapyard had a 8.5. Maybe it's just a regional thing. When in Florida I saw the Xtreme Blazers everywhere(almost everyone 2001+) with the ZQ8 wheels, supposedly came factory on them. I NEVER saw them until I moved down there, up here they all had the Xtreme wheels. GM does some weird shit like that sometimes.
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Thanks for your help guys, what spline are the axles in the 8.5 in the blazers and are the carrier and ring gears the same as the 8.5/8.625 in the full size trucks and if I'm not mistaken if it has a posi unit in it is the gov lock correct.
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just because they list it as a 8.5 on car-part.com doesnt mean they actually know what they are looking at...i went to a yard that claimed to have "a bunch" of 8.5s, and they were all 7.625s...morons...phone first
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Does the 8.5 require the drive shaft to be shortened? I've heard that it's about 2'' longer in the snout, but I don't know how accurate that info was.
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Quote: Originally Posted by 95s10&ls16speed
Thanks for your help guys, what spline are the axles in the 8.5 in the blazers and are the carrier and ring gears the same as the 8.5/8.625 in the full size trucks and if I'm not mistaken if it has a posi unit in it is the gov lock correct.
I'm not sure what the spline count is, but yes I'm 99% sure it's basically a fs rear just narrowed. Do some research to verify my thoughts though.
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Quote: Originally Posted by squeak
Does the 8.5 require the drive shaft to be shortened? I've heard that it's about 2'' longer in the snout, but I don't know how accurate that info was.
the drive shaft will have to be shorted at least and inch or two.
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8.5's are 30 spline, and yes, the posi carrier would be the gov lock from the factory.

no idea if there interchangeable with full size stuff...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69
just because they list it as a 8.5 on car-part.com doesnt mean they actually know what they are looking at...i went to a yard that claimed to have "a bunch" of 8.5s, and they were all 7.625s...morons...phone first
Right on, I knew it was too good to be true. Thanks for the tip!
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Quote: Originally Posted by squeak
Does the 8.5 require the drive shaft to be shortened? I've heard that it's about 2'' longer in the snout, but I don't know how accurate that info was.
its a direct bolt in...driveshaft doesn't need shortened
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A direct bolt in would be great all I would have to do is buy a good true trac and gears if it didnt come with 3.73 and it would be good to go, I know the gov locks are crap my brother broke 2 of those in less than 1000 miles with his supercharged LS1 5.7 in his 99 Silverado. I just found a 8.8 MOUNTAINEER EXPLORER AXLE 31 SPLINE 3.73 LIMITED SLIP they said it came out of a 96 to 01 mountaineer explorer and was 59 1/2 inchs from wheel flange to wheel flange It also has the disc brakes on it they also said something about it had axle flange uprades in the pictures it does look like the tubes are rusty at the flanges, he wants 299.00 for it plus shipping.
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I directly bolted up a 2001 2wd blazer 8.5. It has 30 spline axles and the internals are the same as the full size 8.625. I bought a larger pinion flange for a bigger u-joint, but the factory one seemed to be in the same place as the 7.5
I put a brand new gov lock in that I got for free and its already showing its weakness after less then 1000 miles. Buying a truetrac this winter
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Re: Need help just broke another 7.5 Its time to change.

Im getting a parts blazer this week with disc & posi 8.5/8.6 if your interested where are you located?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lowloudnproud1
Im getting a parts blazer this week with disc & posi 8.5/8.6 if your interested where are you located?

I live in the southeast part of MS below Hattiesburge and yea I maybe interested if the price is good and the shipping not to bad.
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Quote: Originally Posted by moon509
the drive shaft will have to be shorted at least and inch or two.

Quote: Originally Posted by SoLowXtreme
its a direct bolt in...driveshaft doesn't need shortened

AHHHH! Conflicting information! I don't know what to do!!!
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^ lol
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The 8.5" is a direct bolt in. I think moon is mistaken this time. Normally he is right on the money. I have sold more of these rear ends than most people have ever seen. I think I have had all 100 GM ever made. J/K

Nice 60' times!! How about some more info on your rear setup?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iroc-10
The 8.5" is a direct bolt in. I think moon is mistaken this time. Normally he is right on the money. I have sold more of these rear ends than most people have ever seen. I think I have had all 100 GM ever made. J/K

Nice 60' times!! How about some more info on your rear setup?
Thanks. This wasn't my thread, but I've been debating doing the swap for quite some time now and was going to hold off until I did the LS swap if the driveshaft needed any adjustments.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Iroc-10
The 8.5" is a direct bolt in. I think moon is mistaken this time. Normally he is right on the money. I have sold more of these rear ends than most people have ever seen. I think I have had all 100 GM ever made. J/K

Nice 60' times!! How about some more info on your rear setup?
Who is J/K or was you talking to me about the 60ft times I'm not up on all this short hand lol.
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j/k= just kidding
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Ok thanks The rear is a stock 7.625 10 bolt S10 rear end with GM Camaro 4.10 gears and Torsen unit, Stock 28 spline axles, Stock shocks on the rear with a set of home made cal-trac bars 325-50-15 M/T drag radials I do have a set of strange single adjustable shocks up front. And also only running 2 leafs on each side in the rear. Other than that its still like it came from GM. Thanks for your help Guys. I've already got a set of richmond 4.10 gears and a true-track posi unit for my 7.5 if I buy a set of moser axles and a rear support cover for it do you guys think it will hold up alot better?
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Wow thats a rippin' 60' with basically just cal-tracs and stock leafs. Which 2 did you keep? You do have a really strong setup though. How much do you plan on racing it? How much is it going to be on either drag radials or slicks? That and the combo of are you spraying off the line will probably answer the question if your 7.6 will live or not.

There is no doubt a true-track, moser axles and rear support would really help, but IF you have not spent that money yet, I would rather have something that will not have any doubt of holding up to the HP levels. The 8.5 is a decent rear, but to really beat on it, it needs a true-trac.

In my opinion if your going to beat on the truck, run slicks or drag radials, and bottle it, I would do either an 8.8 from a Ford or a 9". The 8.8 you can get and basically bolt in. You will need to get either the axles redrilled or adapters. I also thought I read you maybe wanted to run Corvette wheels? This would also help with that, as they are a little wider. Pick the gear you want before you buy a rear end though, because they had a large variety available. I think even as a stock piece it would live just fine. Those 8.8 are strong.

If your not really into the 8.8, then I would consider doing a 9". It will cost significantly more though. Nothing is going to bolt in. It is going to be all custom, but it won't break.
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We run a stock 8.8 explorer rear. Last year we cut 1.5 60ft times with slapper bars and each leaf spring clamped up front. We have about 100+ passes on that setup. Redrilled axles for gm bolt pattern. 7.625 backspacing on the wheels. Hoping for 1.3 60ft times coming up this year on stock 31 splines axles etc.
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I Picked me up a 8.8 this weekend from a guy off craigslist had to drive less than a hour to pick it up. Its already got a posi unit in it with 31 spline axles and 4.10 gears also has disc brakes already installed plus the axles have been drilled for the 4-3/4 chevy bolt pattern. the guy had it under his 55 chevy and decided he wanted a 9" .I picked it up for 150.00 so I think I did pretty well. It is 59-1/2 wide from flange to flange so I will have to narrow it about 5" Moser said they would cut and respline the axles for 125.00
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Considering what you got the axle for with the Chevy lug pattern already, you're doing damned good, especially if you can get the tubes narrowed for free or cheap.
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I would just change to corvette offset wheels if it were me. 59.5" is perfect to run those. I am scratching my head over my 8.8 right now. I bought it tore down thinking it was a 60" unit from a mustang (axles, diff, gears not installed in it) and it turns out its from a Lincoln MK VII and 62" wide. My main problem is I have camaro wheels and not vette wheels so the backspacing isn't as deep. My front has 2" spacers and will track 64.5" but if I run the 8.8 I will have a 68 rear track width...GRRR! This sucks considering I had the 8.8 built with all new bearings/seals/3.73 gears/carbon Cobra clutch packs and a billet cover.
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