My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished

rundeep66 · 10-13-2009, 03:17 PM

***CPWire*** · 10-13-2009, 03:29 PM

Hey... Did you know someone attached a toilet bowl to the top of your nice fuel injected engine?

rundeep66 · 10-13-2009, 04:49 PM

Lol I know don't you just love it. I want those hard to start winter days. To my understanding a Carb will produce slightly better numbers. I looking for every ounce of power.

ls1s10onair · 10-13-2009, 05:02 PM

i doubt that.... its probably the combination of the intake manifold, and a big carb that produces the power... more than likely, an equal monetary amount of bolt ons would have done more.... it just takes away from having a technologically advanced motor if you ask me

rundeep66 · 10-13-2009, 06:26 PM

I guess it would depend on what a person is trying to achieve. I have more friends with cheaper parts for carb applictions. 200 on a Carb, 385 on a intake, and 285 for the msd. Holley black pump free from a friend. 50 on misc fittings total around 1020.00. When I thought about doing efi I think the cost was close. Since I decided not to run a Turbo I figured I could save a little time and money by running a Carb. Not to mention I came across a 350 trans non electric and a 4000 converter for 300. So taking all things into consideration it did not have to be an efi setup.

turbobandit · 10-13-2009, 07:49 PM

Jarred could build you a harness and pcm for less than what you spent. Carb is not better than EFI for power... it's just easier and more simplified.

In my opinion, i dont see the point of a carb on an LSx. Why not just put in a small block?

turbobandit · 10-13-2009, 07:51 PM

on a good note, i love the fuel cell. However, you'll learn to hate it come fillup time!!! climbing into the bed, just to realize you forgot to hit "NO" to carwash, and have to climb back out haha

The Stunningman · 10-13-2009, 08:17 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

i doubt that.... its probably the combination of the intake manifold, and a big carb that produces the power...
1) more than likely, an equal monetary amount of bolt ons would have done more....

2) it just takes away from having a technologically advanced motor if you ask me

1) Answer is NO you couldn't.
2) Did he ask you? No again. He just posted a picture of his truck and seems to be getting hazed here.

The Stunningman · 10-13-2009, 08:26 PM

Progress on your truck looks good man. Post up any other engine specs you want to. How much of a shot are you running.

The Stunningman · 10-13-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by turbobandit

Jarred could build you a harness and pcm for less than what you spent. Carb is not better than EFI for power... it's just easier and more simplified.

In my opinion, i dont see the point of a carb on an LSx. Why not just put in a small block?

What exactly are you saying here?

$700+ for harness + $350 for a dyno tune would be over $1020 and he would still be running a stock truck intake if he had a LQ4 or LQ9. Then add all the other upgrades EFI guys love to do FAST or bigger TB etc. So he is ahead in that respect.

The part in the bold is about the stupidest thing I have ever read.

rundeep66 · 10-13-2009, 10:03 PM

not to mention a stock intake with a 630 roller i don't think so. Did you forget the price of a computer, fuel system, mass air, throttle body, 40lb injectors, fuel rails, the price was way more than 1050 to be honest. It was more than double after you add it all up.

and the part about building a regular 23 degree headed sbc. do you know how stupid that sounded to compare a lsx 15 degree motor to 23 degree sbc. WOW

anyway I don't think i have to climb in the cab at the pump it's not that bad. I thought so also until i had it all in place. now if I use a gas can I will have to. the cell is closer towards the drivers side. I would like to spray 100 or 150. I want to keep it small. I like all nuts but these motors just do so well with spray.

KJF95S-10 · 10-13-2009, 11:30 PM

Nice truck man. Nice to see a ext cab swap. I actually like the carbed Ls's alot, the carb intakes just look sick and flows very well. Is that a GM intake?

97ls1s10 · 10-13-2009, 11:58 PM

nice swap i like the ext cab too

turbobandit · 10-14-2009, 01:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rundeep66

not to mention a stock intake with a 630 roller i don't think so. Did you forget the price of a computer, fuel system, mass air, throttle body, 40lb injectors, fuel rails, the price was way more than 1050 to be honest. It was more than double after you add it all up.

How does one buy an LSx without any of that stuff on the engine?

***CPWire*** · 10-14-2009, 01:59 PM

What do they charge for those MSD modules to run the coils?
I am sorry to have started such a mess, I was just making messin around.

rundeep66 · 10-14-2009, 02:45 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by KJF95S-10

Nice truck man. Nice to see a ext cab swap. I actually like the carbed Ls's alot, the carb intakes just look sick and flows very well. Is that a GM intake?

It sure is but the ports are off a little. I'm not going to worry about I'll get it matched in a few years. You know what really look sick is when you put elbow on it. That's my plan for the future. Forced fuel injected procharged on alcohol. My machine shop guy wanted to cut the heads but I would not let him. The only problem I'm going to need another cam for when that day come.
The price of the msd was 289 or something like that. I know it wasn't you. Anyway we're all adults. If you have anymore questions pm me.

10-13-2009, 03:17 PM	#1
rundeep66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 69 Location: User is: OffLine	My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Ok here goes i dont know if the pictures will post but let us see. I'll take some more later keep in mind the truck is far from finished. It just don't look like 10,000 but it sounds like it. http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...10170645-1.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10170645.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10170621.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10170608.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10163635.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10163520.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10163510.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10163451.jpg http://s130.photobucket.com/albums/p...0-10163501.jpg
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10-13-2009, 03:29 PM	#2
*CPWire* Makin Sparks Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,206 Location: Hudson, Florida User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Hey... Did you know someone attached a toilet bowl to the top of your nice fuel injected engine?
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10-13-2009, 04:49 PM	#3
rundeep66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 69 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Lol I know don't you just love it. I want those hard to start winter days. To my understanding a Carb will produce slightly better numbers. I looking for every ounce of power.
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10-13-2009, 05:02 PM	#4
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,242 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished i doubt that.... its probably the combination of the intake manifold, and a big carb that produces the power... more than likely, an equal monetary amount of bolt ons would have done more.... it just takes away from having a technologically advanced motor if you ask me
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10-13-2009, 06:26 PM	#5
rundeep66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 69 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished I guess it would depend on what a person is trying to achieve. I have more friends with cheaper parts for carb applictions. 200 on a Carb, 385 on a intake, and 285 for the msd. Holley black pump free from a friend. 50 on misc fittings total around 1020.00. When I thought about doing efi I think the cost was close. Since I decided not to run a Turbo I figured I could save a little time and money by running a Carb. Not to mention I came across a 350 trans non electric and a 4000 converter for 300. So taking all things into consideration it did not have to be an efi setup. Last edited by rundeep66 : 10-13-2009 at 06:32 PM.
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10-13-2009, 07:49 PM	#6
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Jarred could build you a harness and pcm for less than what you spent. Carb is not better than EFI for power... it's just easier and more simplified. In my opinion, i dont see the point of a carb on an LSx. Why not just put in a small block?
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10-13-2009, 07:51 PM	#7
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished on a good note, i love the fuel cell. However, you'll learn to hate it come fillup time!!! climbing into the bed, just to realize you forgot to hit "NO" to carwash, and have to climb back out haha
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10-13-2009, 08:17 PM	#8
The Stunningman former V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,604 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair i doubt that.... its probably the combination of the intake manifold, and a big carb that produces the power... 1) more than likely, an equal monetary amount of bolt ons would have done more.... 2) it just takes away from having a technologically advanced motor if you ask me 1) Answer is NO you couldn't. 2) Did he ask you? No again. He just posted a picture of his truck and seems to be getting hazed here. Last edited by The Stunningman : 10-13-2009 at 08:19 PM.
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10-13-2009, 08:26 PM	#9
The Stunningman former V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,604 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Progress on your truck looks good man. Post up any other engine specs you want to. How much of a shot are you running. Last edited by The Stunningman : 10-13-2009 at 08:30 PM.
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10-13-2009, 08:38 PM	#10
The Stunningman former V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,604 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Quote: Originally Posted by turbobandit Jarred could build you a harness and pcm for less than what you spent. Carb is not better than EFI for power... it's just easier and more simplified. In my opinion, i dont see the point of a carb on an LSx. Why not just put in a small block? What exactly are you saying here? $700+ for harness + $350 for a dyno tune would be over $1020 and he would still be running a stock truck intake if he had a LQ4 or LQ9. Then add all the other upgrades EFI guys love to do FAST or bigger TB etc. So he is ahead in that respect. The part in the bold is about the stupidest thing I have ever read. Last edited by The Stunningman : 10-13-2009 at 08:43 PM.
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10-13-2009, 10:03 PM	#11
rundeep66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 69 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished not to mention a stock intake with a 630 roller i don't think so. Did you forget the price of a computer, fuel system, mass air, throttle body, 40lb injectors, fuel rails, the price was way more than 1050 to be honest. It was more than double after you add it all up. and the part about building a regular 23 degree headed sbc. do you know how stupid that sounded to compare a lsx 15 degree motor to 23 degree sbc. WOW anyway I don't think i have to climb in the cab at the pump it's not that bad. I thought so also until i had it all in place. now if I use a gas can I will have to. the cell is closer towards the drivers side. I would like to spray 100 or 150. I want to keep it small. I like all nuts but these motors just do so well with spray. Last edited by rundeep66 : 10-13-2009 at 10:06 PM.
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10-13-2009, 11:30 PM	#12
KJF95S-10 Two tones of terror Age: 19 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 481 Location: Tampa, FL User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Nice truck man. Nice to see a ext cab swap. I actually like the carbed Ls's alot, the carb intakes just look sick and flows very well. Is that a GM intake?
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10-13-2009, 11:58 PM	#13
97ls1s10 Registered User Age: 19 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 354 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished nice swap i like the ext cab too
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10-14-2009, 01:36 PM	#14
turbobandit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 248 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Quote: Originally Posted by rundeep66 not to mention a stock intake with a 630 roller i don't think so. Did you forget the price of a computer, fuel system, mass air, throttle body, 40lb injectors, fuel rails, the price was way more than 1050 to be honest. It was more than double after you add it all up. How does one buy an LSx without any of that stuff on the engine?
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10-14-2009, 01:59 PM	#15
*CPWire* Makin Sparks Age: 31 Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,206 Location: Hudson, Florida User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished What do they charge for those MSD modules to run the coils? I am sorry to have started such a mess, I was just making messin around.
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10-14-2009, 02:45 PM	#16
rundeep66 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 69 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: My 1996 Sonoma A few pics-not finished Quote: Originally Posted by KJF95S-10 Nice truck man. Nice to see a ext cab swap. I actually like the carbed Ls's alot, the carb intakes just look sick and flows very well. Is that a GM intake? It sure is but the ports are off a little. I'm not going to worry about I'll get it matched in a few years. You know what really look sick is when you put elbow on it. That's my plan for the future. Forced fuel injected procharged on alcohol. My machine shop guy wanted to cut the heads but I would not let him. The only problem I'm going to need another cam for when that day come. The price of the msd was 289 or something like that. I know it wasn't you. Anyway we're all adults. If you have anymore questions pm me.
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