LS9 Super charger

[OUTLAW525YUP]

I've been looking alot at the new upcomming LS9 engine and it looks like the supercharger on that engine could be a good choice for the s10 swaps. Any one know of any dimensional data on the supercharger?

[Kampz69]

thought the same thing, looks good height-wise. the front accessories are in different positions though so i guess youd have to notch the frame for A/C if you wanted to keep it.

[OUTLAW525YUP]

Ah who needs a/c just open the windows and go faster

[So-GT0071]

Quote: Originally Posted by OUTLAW525YUP

Ah who needs a/c

*Raises hand* Arizona sucks....

[philntx]

From what I've been following on the corvette forum, it won't be just a simple swap. It takes a specific water pump, it uses a 10 rib belt, makes a lot of boost, so either pistons and/or bigger CC heads.

Much simpler to use what is currently available.

Even if it would "fit" the cost of this unit, being a GM "performance" part, the cost will be high an availability low.

[91sonomast]

just buy a magnacharger

[95xtreme]

Quote: Originally Posted by philntx

From what I've been following on the corvette forum, it won't be just a simple swap. It takes a specific water pump, it uses a 10 rib belt, makes a lot of boost, so either pistons and/or bigger CC heads.

Much simpler to use what is currently available.

Even if it would "fit" the cost of this unit, being a GM "performance" part, the cost will be high an availability low.

Depends on who you know
But yes a magnacharger is easier to get a hold of and proven in other applications

[brakenit]

Kenne Bell makes a supercharger for LSx and Corvette applications, it's a rather large displacement one to if you're looking to make some big #'s.

[OUTLAW525YUP]

Quote: Originally Posted by 95xtreme

Depends on who you know

Thats what I mean I work for GM as tech and there fore have access to all kinds of goodies. I just like the though of using it as it looks like a nice compact unit and sh!t is says LS9 Supercharged on it whould wouldn't want that under the hood

[CPWire]

Let's not forget that it will only fit the LS3/L92 heads.
And those will only work on an engine with a 4" bore. So it starts getting more and more complicated as you go.
It uses the new helix Eaton blower unit which is the same thing Magnacharger is currently releasing.

[PEKO]

Well the New LS9 is in the new ZR1 or SS right? Isnt that a LS3 with a Supercharger?

[CPWire]

Yes

[philntx]

Yep, it's based on an LS3 block. The cam, pistons, rods, water pump, oil pump, bolts, brackets, pulleys, heads....are unique to the ZR1

[PEKO]

a guy i know from my work is ordering one. Hes selling his Toyota Supra which is all done up, and getting one of these.

[Fkns10]

LS9 = pure awesome. I'd cut my dick off to have one of these in my truck

just kidding. I wouldnt cut my dick off.

[philntx]

Just think....The CTSv will have this also, but it will have the 6L90E transmission behind it.

[Kampz69]

hadnt heard that....that is badass!!!

[BUCKET]

Quote: Originally Posted by xieatcatbrainsx

LS9 = pure awesome. I'd cut my dick off to have one of these in my truck

just kidding. I wouldnt cut my dick off.

but, I would cut your dick off for one in my truck.

[jnoehl]

Quote: Originally Posted by philntx

Just think....The CTSv will have this also, but it will have the 6L90E transmission behind it.

i know right... doesnt that CTSv just sound bas ass, makes me excited. but they are actually different blowers, the ZR1 gets a 2.3L blower while the CTSv gets a 1.9l blower, also the CTS will be offered with a M6 which is the TR6060

[circa]

Quote: Originally Posted by brakenit

Kenne Bell makes a supercharger for LSx and Corvette applications, it's a rather large displacement one to if you're looking to make some big #'s.

pretty big numbers in fact. they are claiming you can make about 950hp with the 5.3L. of course the price is pretty high. but big numbers means big money

[philntx]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnoehl

i know right... doesnt that CTSv just sound bas ass, makes me excited. but they are actually different blowers, the ZR1 gets a 2.3L blower while the CTSv gets a 1.9l blower, also the CTS will be offered with a M6 which is the TR6060

The technology is all there. They will be making between 7,000 and 8,000 of these. So the availability will be greater in the automotive afterlife (salvage yards).

550 out of the box. Still not too bad.

[jnoehl]

Quote: Originally Posted by philntx

The technology is all there. They will be making between 7,000 and 8,000 of these. So the availability will be greater in the automotive afterlife (salvage yards).

550 out of the box. Still not too bad.

550!!! 550 out the box, heck yeah that not too bad. i wish i had that. plus all forged internals from the factory, i can only imagine what some tuning and maybe different cams will do to the ls9/lsa motors

[91sonomast]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnoehl

550!!! 550 out the box, heck yeah that not too bad. i wish i had that. plus all forged internals from the factory, i can only imagine what some tuning and maybe different cams will do to the ls9/lsa motors

hell exhaust and tune lol, that would probably gain 60hp. do a cam, smaller blower pulley, exhaust, tune, yeah, that gives me wet dreams

[Kampz69]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnoehl

550!!! 550 out the box, heck yeah that not too bad. i wish i had that. plus all forged internals from the factory, i can only imagine what some tuning and maybe different cams will do to the ls9/lsa motors

I didnt think the CTS-V was getting forged stuf, just the vette LS9?

[philntx]

Interesting recent article on the LS9 and its power rating.

http://www.sae.org/automag/techrepor...1-116-2-26.pdf

[circa]

should of supercharged the ls7.
the Ls9...its like...taking the ls2 vette and supercharging it.
could get same power....with a hell of a lot less money.

[jnoehl]

Quote: Originally Posted by circa

should of supercharged the ls7.
the Ls9...its like...taking the ls2 vette and supercharging it.
could get same power....with a hell of a lot less money.

i agree, especially since Lutz has indirectly said that this is the last generation of big motored, big HP cars, thats kinda why they made the ZR1.



.....phucking CAFE standards.... they leave no room for performance vehicles...

[91sonomast]

no its like supercharging a LS3 lol. its a LS3 thats supercharged and the CR dropped to 9.9:1 or 9.5:1

[circa]

but the zr1 and z06 come with all the fancy brakes and body panels :/

[91sonomast]

Quote: Originally Posted by jnoehl

i agree, especially since Lutz has indirectly said that this is the last generation of big motored, big HP cars, thats kinda why they made the ZR1.



.....phucking CAFE standards.... they leave no room for performance vehicles...

here is Cadillac's release on the CTS-V FINALLY!!!
http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/.../news_ctsv.jsp

as far as MPG and CAFE standards, thats what the T56 and T6060, and the new family of xLxxE transmissions are for lol. more gears, pushes the MPG numbers higher and higher. my friend with a T56 f-body, full exhaust, TB, bellows, hell idk what all he has done, but his car on average, his weekly driving he is seeing 22-26mpg. on highway trips(long trips), he swears he has tapped into 30mpg once or twice.

[jnoehl]

i'm rockin the t56, i agree it gets good gas mileage when you get up in 6th cruisin on the interstate, i mean hell i've got 4.10's in the rearend and i only cut like 1900 at 75mph. i usually average right around 24 on the hwy and maybe 25 if i only go like 60. but i've got a pretty stout tune. its definitly not for best MPG numbers

i could believe 26, maybe 27 but 30+ is mildly far fetched, not sayin its not possible, just saying its not probable. but blackx is really good at tuning and he says he got around 30 on his 5.3. so who knows but CAFE requires 35mpg for new production models. the next vette they are looking at only has like a 4.7l v8 in it, but its mostly carbon fiber so the power to weight ratio is suppose to be better than the current z06. i just like big motors, and big HP numbers. the automotive industry is going to go through some major changed over the next decade, kinda like the 80's. i'm sure there is light at the end of the tunnel, just until then we kinda have to suffer a little. theres alot of option that are being explored, HCCI, diesel, fuel cells, hydrogen(not probable without controlable nuclear fusion reactions for electrolysis). somethings going to take the cake. i'm personally banking on HCCI for the short term and hydrogen for the long term