LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K!

LS2Sonoma · 10-01-2009, 03:14 AM

probably not the best place to post this info, but Brian since i know youre watching this youll see it. i got the flex plate off tonight and its different than the flexp off the 5.3 i had (forgot to give it to the guy D: ) it has dual pattern bolt holes for the converter and also two crank locating pins

also, its a different offset!

theres more to it.... this engine came with a spacer! here she is

ive never seen or heard of this before

mr spree · 10-01-2009, 04:03 AM

hmmm never seen it before either

Petro · 10-01-2009, 07:11 PM

Some of the earlier blocks had a wider rear flange.( Specifically the 4.8s and 6.0s ) The difference had to do with the varying GM transmission dimensions. The short flange cranks are compatible with all transmissions...Whereas the wider flanges aren't....So you would to try and get one with a short flange since you can buy spacer kits if need be...

LSxWannaBe · 10-02-2009, 02:15 PM

Yeah its a 89 frank, sadly those pics make it look cleaner then i remember it lol looks like its a bit of a odd ball too. should make things interesting

LS2Sonoma · 10-02-2009, 08:36 PM

89?

Petro, i know all about the cranks and the flanges... ive just never seen one come with a spacer, nor with a flywheel that isnt offset. for my swap, it goes crank > flexp > spacer, this engine is crank > spacer > flex. thats what is weird to me

x98zq8x · 10-02-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma

its an anti-hop shock, available on the 99/00 trucks

Awesome truck! Its like my trucks twin but with double the horsepower!
And my 98 has a hop shock.

LS2Sonoma · 10-05-2009, 12:29 AM

due to the lack of posts, ive decided that im not going to update my thread anymore

just kidding, heres a few pix from this weekend
started priming the bottom of the frame

put some braces in the back for the shock mounts... its not pretty, but its not about cosmetics at the moment. right now, i need to focus on getting this beast together and drivable for the spring! i also finally ripped out my rear left spring bushings... had to drill the rubber out, what a pain

and for fun, i tore my buddy's 6.0L apart all the way, everything looks real nice inside... not so much on the outside

off to the machine shop she goes!

LSxWannaBe · 10-05-2009, 03:53 AM

man that frame looks sweet, going to be a shame to hide it under the body. you dont know how stoked i am seeing my 6.0 apart, just got to get the truck up there so we can start tearing into it now.

LS2Sonoma · 10-05-2009, 11:50 PM

bbcc · 10-06-2009, 03:29 PM

Missed a spot......

carter · 10-06-2009, 06:58 PM

nice work frank! cant wait till you can do mine...jklooks super clean, i had no idea this quality of work was going into it...props brotha- Carter

bitchin sonoma · 10-06-2009, 07:03 PM

awesome!!!

LS2Sonoma · 10-18-2009, 03:00 PM

sonomaguy · 10-18-2009, 04:56 PM

Lookin good Frank, it's starting to come together now.

rentedmule · 10-18-2009, 05:01 PM

Looks great man

**Kampz69** · 10-18-2009, 05:30 PM

purdy

LS2Sonoma · 10-18-2009, 08:07 PM

thanks guys. that was the first coat, did the second one today. give it a few hours to dry and its flip time. i have already started planning some lines for the transmission and brake lines

http://www.russellperformance.com/mc...ic/intro.shtml

going to see slipknot tonight!!

**Kampz69** · 10-18-2009, 10:56 PM

those black fittings/lines look nice

LS2Sonoma · 10-19-2009, 02:39 AM

yup

and theyre not cheap lol

its ok cuz i dont need much

still not sure what brake lines i want. its between two kinds. polyvinyl fluoride coated lines or cupro nickel.. leanin more towards nickel lines

the nickel lines are pretty much the best you can buy. wont rust, guaranteed for life... but the poly lines are black lol anybody use either of those?

s10-den · 10-21-2009, 06:02 PM

AGAIN???LMAO
coming right along Frank.....

carter · 10-22-2009, 01:10 AM

Frank...i never saw the pic of your new wheels fitted up...those look sooo nice on your truck...makes me want new wheels now haha

lookin good...as usual. We'll make many trips to the mountains this winter if you promise me you'll have it done by spring

LS2Sonoma · 10-22-2009, 03:38 AM

i havent really fit them in yet... i have some old pix, sort of a sample...

of course, it wont sit that high in the back. should be about 1.5" between the tire and fender

were going to the mountains anyway, carter!!

tiresmokinV8 · 10-22-2009, 10:54 PM

Those wheels look amazing. What size are they?

1sic03x · 10-22-2009, 11:16 PM

looking damn good Frank!

LS2Sonoma · 10-22-2009, 11:56 PM

theyre C5 vette rims, 17x8.5 and 18x9.5
tires are 255 45 and 305 45

not sure yet if i like the gloss black on them, might go with gunmetal later on

top of the frame has its first coat of paint... time to go buy some lines and start plumbing! also gonna be getting my control arms together and i gotta call the guy who is shortening my diff.....

mr spree · 10-23-2009, 01:08 AM

2nd gen and 1st gen s10's have the same wheel base dont they?
im lookin to do something with those wheels, i really like them and they look awesome on your truck

LS2Sonoma · 10-23-2009, 11:18 PM

first coat on top... ran out of paint

finished the first coat tonight, started the crossmembers

LS2Sonoma · 10-26-2009, 10:51 PM

well, im still trying to organize the lines and get my hardware ordered for the suspension... so im getting all my pieces together and trying to figure out what i need. going to replace most of the ugly rusty bolts. got busy at work today and didnt get around to getting anything.

heres a few pix of the lines im going to be running. theyre nylon and so far me likey!

assembled

disassembled with different bulkheads

bbcc · 10-27-2009, 12:01 PM

Lookin good frank! Now's the time to do that vette brake swap! I have watchya need. Front and rear....

rentedmule · 10-27-2009, 12:48 PM

Looking good man. You should check into the SC&C stage 2 kit for G-bodies before you replace anything on your front suspension. It's a good deal and it corrects the crappy geometry of the stock setup.

bbcc · 10-27-2009, 05:51 PM

Oh, I've been tryin to convince frank to go with that for a while. But he decided the money was better spent on a billet t.body

LS2Sonoma · 10-27-2009, 10:13 PM

throttle body? there are no cheap 90mm tbs... unless i want a stock dbw

id rather have the ls6 intake on there but how could i go wrong with a $50 LS2 intake?

lemme see those brakes, ry

AmericanMuscle · 10-28-2009, 12:33 AM

that is very well done!

LS2Sonoma · 10-28-2009, 01:23 AM

thanks! i hope it works, i had a tough time measuring the square notches lol

we will soon find out

got some pieces back from sandblasting
its a bit blurry, but its not an important pix ha

started painting!

bbcc · 10-28-2009, 12:30 PM

Sure, I'll send you a couple pics when i can.

Are you using the stock rubbers for all the cab mounts?

Driveway Kustoms · 10-28-2009, 12:57 PM

are they going to be black? or is that primer on the frame

sonomaguy · 10-28-2009, 11:25 PM

I thought Frank had some urethane body mounts last time I was over there.

LS2Sonoma · 10-28-2009, 11:35 PM

theyre energy bushes

Quote: Originally Posted by Driveway Kustoms

are they going to be black? or is that primer on the frame

everything is going to be black! the primer is red on the frame, its finished color is what you see

LS2Sonoma · 10-29-2009, 01:09 AM

got some new hardware today

bolted some parts on... my shock mount doesnt match for some reason!! gonna have to take it off and redo it lol

bbcc · 10-29-2009, 11:12 AM

Ah frank. You got the wrong bolts man.

They arn't black!

rentedmule · 10-29-2009, 12:35 PM

Sweet tape-deck - Bassxpander FTW!

sonomaguy · 10-29-2009, 08:25 PM

Lucky Lager part of the "New Hardware" too?

LS2Sonoma · 10-29-2009, 08:26 PM

ya, i knoE!!1 black nuts are grade 2 or something like that!! ill have to paint these!

LS2Sonoma · 10-29-2009, 08:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by sonomaguy

Lucky Lager part of the "New Hardware" too?

nope, thats my fuel

SoLowXtreme · 10-30-2009, 04:58 PM

is it done yet ?

LS2Sonoma · 11-05-2009, 12:39 AM

alright, so this just in.... i guess ill start by stating that ive had my a/c equipment since i started my swap in 05. i had bought an ls1 pump, which didnt fit. then i bought an ls6 pump which was broken during shipping. by the time i got the replacement my engine was already in and half the front end together, so when my notch was too small, i just left it without a/c.

now that my notch is awesome, guess what............. the pulleys dont line up!!!!!!! oh my god, now what!!?!¿!

i cant shim the pump forward at all... maybe the balancer is falling off? lol
its TWO TEETH out so WTF aftermarket balancer might be the problem but how do i find out? order a new one? ugh

so whats the deal, should i figure out this a/c problem or go another year without my beloved a/c???

anyway, away from the boring part and onward with ENGINE PIX!!

just test fitting for now, wanna make sure my trans lines are made right so ill have the trans in there in a few days

ps. my exhaust is huge, i cant put my passenger side upper control arm in with the header there lol

**Kampz69** · 11-05-2009, 12:56 AM

i like how (most) everything is black, looks sweet. you built those long tubes right?

sonomaguy · 11-05-2009, 01:04 AM

That's lookin really good Frank, sorry to hear about the AC problems. You've got it all apart now. Fix it now.

LS2Sonoma · 11-05-2009, 01:14 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Kampz69

i like how (most) everything is black, looks sweet. you built those long tubes right?

yup

1sic03x · 11-05-2009, 11:47 AM

ahhh, your making me jealous Frank! Motor looks damn good sitting in there.

10-01-2009, 03:14 AM	#151
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! probably not the best place to post this info, but Brian since i know youre watching this youll see it. i got the flex plate off tonight and its different than the flexp off the 5.3 i had (forgot to give it to the guy D: ) it has dual pattern bolt holes for the converter and also two crank locating pins also, its a different offset! theres more to it.... this engine came with a spacer! here she is ive never seen or heard of this before
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10-01-2009, 04:03 AM	#152
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! hmmm never seen it before either
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10-01-2009, 07:11 PM	#153
Petro Registered User Age: 24 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,539 Location: Savannah, GA User is: Online	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Some of the earlier blocks had a wider rear flange.( Specifically the 4.8s and 6.0s ) The difference had to do with the varying GM transmission dimensions. The short flange cranks are compatible with all transmissions...Whereas the wider flanges aren't....So you would to try and get one with a short flange since you can buy spacer kits if need be... Last edited by Petro : 10-01-2009 at 07:13 PM.
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10-02-2009, 02:15 PM	#154
LSxWannaBe Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Yeah its a 89 frank, sadly those pics make it look cleaner then i remember it lol looks like its a bit of a odd ball too. should make things interesting
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10-02-2009, 08:36 PM	#155
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! 89? Petro, i know all about the cranks and the flanges... ive just never seen one come with a spacer, nor with a flywheel that isnt offset. for my swap, it goes crank > flexp > spacer, this engine is crank > spacer > flex. thats what is weird to me Last edited by LS2Sonoma : 10-02-2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: added image
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10-02-2009, 09:08 PM	#156
x98zq8x Registered Pimp Age: 21 Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 624 Location: Taylor,MI User is: Online	Re: LS2 Tear down; Beware 56K! Quote: Originally Posted by LS2Sonoma its an anti-hop shock, available on the 99/00 trucks Awesome truck! Its like my trucks twin but with double the horsepower! And my 98 has a hop shock.
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10-05-2009, 12:29 AM	#157
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! due to the lack of posts, ive decided that im not going to update my thread anymore just kidding, heres a few pix from this weekend started priming the bottom of the frame put some braces in the back for the shock mounts... its not pretty, but its not about cosmetics at the moment. right now, i need to focus on getting this beast together and drivable for the spring! i also finally ripped out my rear left spring bushings... had to drill the rubber out, what a pain and for fun, i tore my buddy's 6.0L apart all the way, everything looks real nice inside... not so much on the outside off to the machine shop she goes!
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10-05-2009, 03:53 AM	#158
LSxWannaBe Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! man that frame looks sweet, going to be a shame to hide it under the body. you dont know how stoked i am seeing my 6.0 apart, just got to get the truck up there so we can start tearing into it now.
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10-05-2009, 11:50 PM	#159
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10-06-2009, 03:29 PM	#160
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10-06-2009, 06:58 PM	#161
carter Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 232 Location: Calgary User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! nice work frank! cant wait till you can do mine...jklooks super clean, i had no idea this quality of work was going into it...props brotha- Carter
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10-06-2009, 07:03 PM	#162
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 24 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,543 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! awesome!!!
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10-18-2009, 03:00 PM	#163
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10-18-2009, 04:56 PM	#164
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10-18-2009, 05:01 PM	#165
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10-18-2009, 05:30 PM	#166
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! purdy
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10-18-2009, 08:07 PM	#167
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! thanks guys. that was the first coat, did the second one today. give it a few hours to dry and its flip time. i have already started planning some lines for the transmission and brake lines http://www.russellperformance.com/mc...ic/intro.shtml going to see slipknot tonight!!
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10-18-2009, 10:56 PM	#168
Kampz69 Need LSx swap..... Age: 31 Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,069 Location: SW Chicago burbs User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! those black fittings/lines look nice
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10-19-2009, 02:39 AM	#169
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! yup and theyre not cheap lol its ok cuz i dont need much still not sure what brake lines i want. its between two kinds. polyvinyl fluoride coated lines or cupro nickel.. leanin more towards nickel lines the nickel lines are pretty much the best you can buy. wont rust, guaranteed for life... but the poly lines are black lol anybody use either of those?
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10-21-2009, 06:02 PM	#170
s10-den takes 2 balls in our game Age: 37 Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,416 Location: florida User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! AGAIN???LMAO coming right along Frank.....
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10-22-2009, 01:10 AM	#171
carter Registered User Age: 20 Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 232 Location: Calgary User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Frank...i never saw the pic of your new wheels fitted up...those look sooo nice on your truck...makes me want new wheels now haha lookin good...as usual. We'll make many trips to the mountains this winter if you promise me you'll have it done by spring
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10-22-2009, 03:38 AM	#172
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! i havent really fit them in yet... i have some old pix, sort of a sample... of course, it wont sit that high in the back. should be about 1.5" between the tire and fender were going to the mountains anyway, carter!!
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10-22-2009, 10:54 PM	#173
tiresmokinV8 Not so Avg Age: 23 Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 903 Location: Cuy. Falls, OH User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Those wheels look amazing. What size are they?
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10-22-2009, 11:16 PM	#174
1sic03x 5.3 LSx bitches Age: 18 Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,043 Location: Augusta, GA User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! looking damn good Frank!
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10-22-2009, 11:56 PM	#175
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! theyre C5 vette rims, 17x8.5 and 18x9.5 tires are 255 45 and 305 45 not sure yet if i like the gloss black on them, might go with gunmetal later on top of the frame has its first coat of paint... time to go buy some lines and start plumbing! also gonna be getting my control arms together and i gotta call the guy who is shortening my diff.....
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10-23-2009, 01:08 AM	#176
mr spree Whats this for? Age: 20 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,013 Location: Spokane WA User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! 2nd gen and 1st gen s10's have the same wheel base dont they? im lookin to do something with those wheels, i really like them and they look awesome on your truck
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10-23-2009, 11:18 PM	#177
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! first coat on top... ran out of paint finished the first coat tonight, started the crossmembers
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10-26-2009, 10:51 PM	#178
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! well, im still trying to organize the lines and get my hardware ordered for the suspension... so im getting all my pieces together and trying to figure out what i need. going to replace most of the ugly rusty bolts. got busy at work today and didnt get around to getting anything. heres a few pix of the lines im going to be running. theyre nylon and so far me likey! assembled disassembled with different bulkheads Last edited by LS2Sonoma : 10-26-2009 at 10:53 PM.
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10-27-2009, 12:01 PM	#179
bbcc dark side member Age: 21 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Edmonton User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Lookin good frank! Now's the time to do that vette brake swap! I have watchya need. Front and rear....
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10-27-2009, 12:48 PM	#180
rentedmule got cones? Age: 32 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,287 Location: Edmonton, AB User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Looking good man. You should check into the SC&C stage 2 kit for G-bodies before you replace anything on your front suspension. It's a good deal and it corrects the crappy geometry of the stock setup.
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10-27-2009, 05:51 PM	#181
bbcc dark side member Age: 21 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Edmonton User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Oh, I've been tryin to convince frank to go with that for a while. But he decided the money was better spent on a billet t.body
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10-27-2009, 10:13 PM	#182
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! throttle body? there are no cheap 90mm tbs... unless i want a stock dbw id rather have the ls6 intake on there but how could i go wrong with a $50 LS2 intake? lemme see those brakes, ry
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10-28-2009, 12:33 AM	#183
AmericanMuscle its just greg Age: 23 Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,599 Location: az User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! that is very well done!
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10-28-2009, 01:23 AM	#184
LS2Sonoma Registered User Age: 28 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 951 Location: edmonton, alberta, canada User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! thanks! i hope it works, i had a tough time measuring the square notches lol we will soon find out got some pieces back from sandblasting its a bit blurry, but its not an important pix ha started painting!
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10-28-2009, 12:30 PM	#185
bbcc dark side member Age: 21 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 286 Location: Edmonton User is: OffLine	Re: LS2 Re - Build; Beware 56K! Sure, I'll send you a couple pics when i can. Are you using the stock rubbers for all the cab mounts?
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