LS1 with vortech supercharger?

[xtucking22s]

SO Im a noob to V8 discussion........LS1 with vortech supercharger? Has anyone done this? That would put you at 500hp with a stock ls1 and vortech supercharger, but has anyone done this? I have the problem that i want a show truck, a fast ass truck, and a bagged laying frame truck. Starting next year once I graduate college money won't be an issue really. So my two projects I have left is go fast and either lay frame or come close to laying frame on bags. Anyways, has anyone done a supercharger ontop of an LS1? Im worried about thew rest of the truck not holding together, like the rear axle and stuff. I wont race the truck if I ever did this swap it would just be for fun althouhg im sure i will stomp on it at a lot of lights when I pull up next to some other cars. And is an engine swap going to give me any clearance issues with bagging my truck....like the tranny cross memeber and all that jazz....

[NewV8S10]

If you're running an automatic trans, it'll definately take a dump behind a blown LS1. The rear should actually hold up pretty well since you'll break traction before you flex the 10 bolt enough to hurt it in most cases.

[xtucking22s]

Haha, well If I did this conversion I would definitly want to make it a manual. But I have an auto right now with the V6.

[Jake the SSnake]

I've always wondered how bags would handle a big motor.If you get any wheelhop it will get ugly REAL fast.

[bitchin sonoma]

YOu can make autotrannies strong too, it just cost a little bit more money! I was thinking about putting a ls-1 or lt-1 in mine, and may be bags!

[BlackEsDime]

bags will handle the power better then a stock suspension... people do 4-links with coilovers for better traction, the only difference is bags are inplace of the coil overs.

[fawien]

Plenty of big HP rides out there dragging on auto trans.

[xtucking22s]

hmmmmm, maybe ill go with an auto when the time comes.

[ZZ4Blazer]

How bout the big question...is it gonna fit? I thought that most centrificals on late model f-bodies mounted down low on the motor. Like right where the frames at on an s-series?

[xtucking22s]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

How bout the big question...is it gonna fit? I thought that most centrificals on late model f-bodies mounted down low on the motor. Like right where the frames at on an s-series?

That is a part of what Im asking really....is if it is even possible to do a supercharger with an LS1 in an s10

[ZZ4Blazer]

I dont think the F-body brackets will work. Maybe something for a gen III truck would work, which would probably require running the truck accessories(If they're different, Im not up on gen III's yet)

If not, it might require a one off custom bracket. Which can be a nightmare. If your gonna have to fabricate stuff, might as well just fab up a turbo system.

[Jake the SSnake]

I've actually wondered about using one off a vette,since I have vette accessories.But I think its mounted high on the drivers side and mounted backwards( would probably hit the radiator).At any rate a magnacharger would fit and possibly a kb blower and would sound cooler
http://www.kennebell.net/supercharge...gmCorvette.htm

[xtucking22s]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

I dont think the F-body brackets will work. Maybe something for a gen III truck would work, which would probably require running the truck accessories(If they're different, Im not up on gen III's yet)

If not, it might require a one off custom bracket. Which can be a nightmare. If your gonna have to fabricate stuff, might as well just fab up a turbo system.

generation 3??? And since when is there a third generation s10?

[Jake the SSnake]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s

generation 3??? And since when is there a third generation s10?

Gen lll usually refers to lsx's or the vehicles they come in this case 99+gm trucks
Unless he's talking about the trailblazer ss.

[ZZ4Blazer]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtucking22s

generation 3??? And since when is there a third generation s10?

No, I meant a fullsize truck, with a Gen III motor in it. (4.8 5.3 6.0)

And like Jake mentioned, why not a twin screw supercharger? F-body guys would KILL to be able to run a whipple or KB without having to cut the firewall out. Look at the power the cobra guys are making with it!! And IMO, the LS1 is twice the motor the 4.6 is.

If I had a Gen III motor, and was looking to supercharger it, Id go with one of those. There should be able clearance in an s-10 to bolt one of those on top.

[xtucking22s]

ooooo allright, i thought you were saying gen 3 s10 and i was like wtf mate? lol. Allright well I just said vortech supercharger originally cuz that came to mind first....I will certainly look into the other brands if I ever did this swap. I certainly dont have the know-how I would need to do this type of swap, But I would pay someone to do this, like a shop I guess......anybody from Maryland wanna drop in a supercharged ls1 into my truck in a year or two? hehe

[bitchin sonoma]

sweet!!!Good luck and keep us posted, that way I can have more courage to do it on mine!

[xtucking22s]

Quote: Originally Posted by bitchin sonoma

sweet!!!Good luck and keep us posted, that way I can have more courage to do it on mine!

Sure thing but it wont be for like 2 years most likely. This years truck budget has already gone over budget with my new seats, Baer Brakes, SS mirrors, and lambos doors. Next years summer budget is for Air bags, then the following year will be engine swap.....well thats the plan anyways. lol.

[NewV8S10]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZZ4Blazer

How bout the big question...is it gonna fit? I thought that most centrificals on late model f-bodies mounted down low on the motor. Like right where the frames at on an s-series?

Vortech's LS1 kits all mount about the same.

F body


Y bodys have a little more room up front so the blower is turned around and is reverse rotation.


Procharger mounts the Vette supercharger on the opposite side of the engine. Also reverse rotation.


Procharger mounts low on the driver side of the LS1 F body so it can discharge down and into the twin intercoolers.




The Magnacharger will probably require a taller hood as well as firewall modifications.

[dogger]

you could get a ls1 with a vortec into the truck. I'd run the camaro head unit because you have more room for it but with vett asesories you will need to make a custom bracket to mount the head unit. and most vortec's put down 440 to 450 at the wheel's stock motors and intercooled. a built motor you could see insane number's.
the rear end though you can break even without traction. if you get the rear spinning posi on dry pavement(no traction) and you start fishtailing you'll kill a stock posi unit in a hurry.. don't ask how I know but I got proof.
it would be a very cool install I've considered it but I'll be going turbo myself.

[Jake the SSnake]

LS1 magnacharger S10 ---------->http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showth...1+supercharger
Stock hood

[SweetS10V8]

You dont have to have a supercharger to get 500hp out of an LS1. All you need is a head/cam swap. Boom...500hp(with the right heads and cam)

Do yourself a favor and get good heads anyways, nothing like making a ton more power and doing it with less boost.

[Jake the SSnake]

Quote: Originally Posted by SweetS10V8

You dont have to have a supercharger to get 500hp out of an LS1. All you need is a head/cam swap. Boom...500hp(with the right heads and cam)

Do yourself a favor and get good heads anyways, nothing like making a ton more power and doing it with less boost.

500 at the flywheel no problem,500 at the wheels is alot harder.It takes real attention to detail to get there most head/cam ls1's are doing good at 450 rwhp.There are quite a few blown ls1's with 500+rwhp on the stock shortblock.I only say this because most ls1 people only talk about rwhp.And fwiw I just ordered a set of etp 11 degree 225 heads, with the right cam I might be in that range

[APlunk711]

I would save up for the procharger. I would strongly recomend running a turbo transmission behind the blown ls1. They can be built to withstand a ton of power.