01-27-2003, 06:00 PM
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ls1 progress!
this weekend me and my friend pulled the 2.2 and the automatic out of my 2001 xtreme and mounted the clutch pedal for the 6 speed! heres some pics......... and when im done ill post a sticky in this forum about everything u should look out for when doing this swap..........
we somewhat fitted the engine in the bay and we have concluded that it will be easier to get a smaller brake booster because the coil pack hits it.......... the crossmember will need to be cut.......... the steering shaft is close to the alternator bracket........and that camaro/firebird 350 mounts modified might work......... but ill keep you all posted on my theories and modifications.............. |
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01-27-2003, 06:02 PM
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another pic of my truck and 2 of my friends that have been helping me, thanks guys!
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01-27-2003, 06:15 PM
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just relocate the coil and make a longer plugwire. what year motor is it? you better go ahead and take the fenders and inner fenders off , because you will need the room to get to everything. and make sure everything is covered with some thick blankets when you start welding the mounts in !!!!!! the sparks will burn everything !!!! including glass !!!!!
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01-27-2003, 06:18 PM
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Best of luck guys, looks like you are well equipped for the job!!!
Trust me, you will invent some cuss words, but a v8 dime is well worth it in the end!!! |
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01-27-2003, 06:39 PM
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01-27-2003, 07:16 PM
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the plugs are easy to get to except for the pass side rear. the alt was close to the gear box but it never hit (1/2 inch). I had to make the mounts using the trans ams and welding them to a plate welded to the frame of the truck... I set the motor in( with the car mounts on),got it where it needed to be , and tacked it to the frame plate........pulled it back out and welded the hell out of it ! I notched the pass side frame plate so the starter could be removed once installed. the a/c compressor will be close too...
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01-27-2003, 08:54 PM
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01xon18s
 I am curious how the motor mounts are going to be worked out. I was thinking that I should use the weld in motor mounts from JTR. Take lots of pics PLEASE! And feel free to email them to me! Finding someone doing a 2.2L to LS1 swap is pretty exciting, since I also have a newer 2.2L |
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01-27-2003, 09:18 PM
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I am also wanting to bo this swap, if you don't mind taking pics and such, I would be greatful to see what all is involved. Aslo, I have read that the "electronics" and gauges and stuff are a PITA on the '01s thanks again and good luck, it should be F#@&ing Sweet!
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01-27-2003, 09:34 PM
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01-27-2003, 09:37 PM
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01-28-2003, 10:39 AM
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oh baby thats gonna be awsome, im in NJ so im sure that dave and i will stop by sometime, you just had bags put on and now the ls1, damn bagged and LS1 that is one sweet conversion, where did you pick the motor up from and how much, you got me curious i'd prolly never go through with a swap like that yet but its fgood to know so when i look at prices i know. thanks ill have to see it someday!!
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01-28-2003, 03:06 PM
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Mike you will need to notch the frame for the crossmember. It will be very close if you dont, irs just a safer bet to notch a little bit out. I wish I lived closer or you know Id be up there helpin ya..
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01-28-2003, 03:53 PM
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you should be able to use the bcm off the car if you have keyless entry and the factory alarm. all the wires should be the same color!(and maybe the same connecter). |
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01-28-2003, 04:00 PM
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how much did you pick up the wrecked ls1 if you don't mind me asking... I plan on bagging and maybe even body droppin soon... But The truck already has the looks would reather have the ls1 rather then the 4.3 i got right now.. To bad i've already put close to 20,000 into the truck... could of had the motor.. But money is tight right now. Grr the money i could have saved
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01-28-2003, 05:13 PM
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I plan on doing an ls6 conversion in my 02 extreme blazer, but , I'm going to wait awhile because I don't like the idea of having all that money tied up in a vehicle that belongs to a bank . I would lose my ass if I wrecked it !!!!! thats why I do v8's in older s-10s .
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01-28-2003, 05:17 PM
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01-28-2003, 05:18 PM
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01-28-2003, 05:19 PM
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01-28-2003, 05:30 PM
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go to a salvage yard and get one. v6's and v8's are the same but make sure you get the ignition key too !!!!! when I did my swap , 98' models were the only engines you could get a harness for !!!! all the connectors are differen't and the pcm pins are in a different location. thats why I had to make my harness(using the bcm) .
also,the anti theft had to be deleted from the pcm too.(98') does yours have a bcm now ? |
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01-28-2003, 06:38 PM
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01-28-2003, 07:01 PM
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Are you having to move the steering shaft at all? I want to do a Vortec 350 in my 98 and heard that the Vortec is wider than an LS1 and the LS1 is taller or something so I might have to move steering shaft, is this true? Has a vortec in a 2nd gen been done?
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01-28-2003, 10:43 PM
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sham said he didnt have to move his but it was close......... ill let u know |
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01-28-2003, 11:54 PM
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the Vortec motor is the same as a regular 350 block, so you can look to those swaps for any problems..
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01-29-2003, 01:52 PM
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02-02-2003, 02:29 PM
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this weekend i put on the rear disc brakes and zexel posi............ i still have to work on the posi cuz i got god damn 4.10s and didnt know the center piece wouldnt come out haha........ i read up after me and my friend were stumped...........
if anyone has questions regarding the disc brake swap......... its easy get the trans am/camaro backing plates.......... calipers........ rotors..... and brake hoses....... and our stock brake line threads into it with a little bending of the line.......... i actually moved my line to under the rear but im still comtemplating it |
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02-03-2003, 07:25 PM
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I use an achronym to help me with doing diff's.
Erron Buys Playboys Regularly E= Endplay B= Backlash P= Preload R= Runout I dont know how much differenc there is between a semi's rear end and a small cars... Im sure that it is pretty much the same, but the torque spec's and room for error is smaller for a cars rear axle. |
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02-03-2003, 08:28 PM
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Man that truck is gonna be bad a$$. What did you have to do when doing the zexel posi. I am going to do that to mine soon.
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02-03-2003, 09:02 PM
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it was simple here because i had the trans am rear end and the zexel unit....... so i took my rear apart....... and took the ta cover off to check their unit for backlash and play and whatever i had to inspect...... and i put the zexel in my truck and shimmed it to get it as tight as the one in the trans am rear...... not that hard really......... just have some shims on hand....... and a rear diff. gasket lol........... i still have to pull my posi unit out again and take the center block out and either order slp paddle bars....... which is basically the center piece sold as 2 pieces...... so u can put the 1 piece in and slide it in where the ring gear prevents it from comin out........ and then slide the second piece in......... but im going to try to have a shop machine mine so i can use it i dont want to give slp 130 bucks for that...... but who knows maybe i will have to.............. any other questions u have just direct here |
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02-03-2003, 10:39 PM
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An LS1 in a S10 is so bad ass. Im glad someone is actually doing the swap instead of saying, "oh Im going to put in a V8 soon". You got bags to, thats going to be a show stopper when its finished.
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02-04-2003, 12:26 PM
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Dont forget your gonna need stronger front springs. you may know that already but i watched my friend do it with his ranger. 2.3-5.0
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02-04-2003, 05:16 PM
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02-08-2003, 07:09 PM
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what might help with the altenator clearence is a set of march pulleys, and relocate it. Also for the gearing why not go with a 3.08 3.42 or something along those lines. You will still have a strong running truck and plus with the t-56 you will have a good gear. To think a stock SS only has like a 2.73 ratio.
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02-08-2003, 08:46 PM
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what year of camaro/firechicken do u use ??? i would LOVE to do that if i can pickup the parts from our local boneyard.. Thanx..
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02-08-2003, 11:43 PM
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a stock ss 6 speed has 3.42s (all 6 speeds have 3.42's)and an auto has 3.23(some 98's have 2.73s) |
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02-11-2003, 12:23 PM
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hey this weekend i got some more work done........... i finished the rear........ had to grind the center block a little to get it to work wit the 4.10s in the zexel unit.......... and i finished up the rear disc brakes and bled them........ i still need to do a ebrake for them but i got the trans am ebrake cable and handle because i am going to put the handle in the center console like a car
i also cut the crossmember for the oilpan........ and the heater box had to be cut so the engine would sit back a little more...... thats no big deal........ and the motor is laying in there but it looks like the alternator is going to have to be relocated because its like gonna be on the gearbox for the steering column....... right now the alternator bracket is very close and i dont have an alternator because it got broke in the accident.......... so i might possibly move the ac compressor and alternator up top......... and probably gonna get rid of abs and get the prop. valve for the disc brakes in the back that AVTekk was telling me about i also cut the lip off the firewall........... still need to try to get the stock manifold to work nex weekend or sometime this week but i am sick right now. if they r reaslly hard to get to work i might just buy the headers from lht but they r expensive and would set my project back a few weeks.................. ill let you all know whats goin on......... and also i might be buying the lht harness because i want to retain the stock gauges and the lady i bought my harness off of says its not possible and im like another company makes one...... so i might have to sell my harness im supposed to get or try to return............... ill keep ya posted this sucks lol |
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02-11-2003, 01:29 PM
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the 6speed fbods have 3.42's
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02-25-2003, 10:23 PM
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well, my friend just did the same thing and he got alot of parts like engine mounts and crossmember and wiring harness from lee high tech trucks. the parts helped this conversion go real smooth leeshightechtrucks.com
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03-25-2003, 01:18 AM
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Well is it done yet? Havent seen an update in a while....
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03-27-2003, 08:36 AM
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i been finishing it up but not updating........... i got the power steering lines and ac lines and heater hoses figured out and i have to buy a vette alternator and toinite notch the frame for the ac comp..... should be mostly done by next weekeend and then i need to save for headers/exhaust and wiring harness due to a business ripping me off on a 800 dolla wiring harness
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03-27-2003, 06:17 PM
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Damn ur taking ur time with this one! Bet it will look REAL good when its done after all the time you took getting it in and stuff.
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03-30-2003, 03:36 PM
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03-31-2003, 03:22 PM
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Awesome man... my last swap was on a 92 Z24. I took the 3.1 turbo motor from a 90 grand prix and put it in my Z. Pretty badd *ss when it was done. Traction was a major problem off the line though. I've recently sold that and I'm off to my next project, an Xtreme ls1 or ls6 conversion. Awesome to see someone that has tackled it without going to lee's high tech for all those SUPER expensive prefabbed parts. The only thing I may by from them is their motor mounts. Also I've heard that if you use the corvette accesories, the motor sits in their a little better as far as clearance issues. But for what you got the Firechicken for, I woulda used that thing to. Keep us updated dood, looks awesome!!
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03-31-2003, 05:55 PM
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as for the a/c compressor.... it looks like im gonna have to notch more than half the framerail for it to clear so i dont know what to do as of now.... maybe i can stepnotch the frame? we will see |
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03-31-2003, 06:23 PM
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you will have to use all vette pullies now because they sit about an inch closer to the block. or you can use spacers to pull the vette alt bracket out about an inch.
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04-01-2003, 06:07 PM
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04-01-2003, 06:46 PM
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Sham and 01Xon18s....
If you guys get a chance could you take a peak at my "LS1 swap Q's" thread? I have a couple questions  Thanks |
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04-01-2003, 08:11 PM
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04-09-2003, 05:57 PM
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Hey Mike.... Me and the guy from work just started the swap.. He said about 1 1/2 months - 2 months. Maybe sooner... Maybe well see you around NJ
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04-10-2003, 08:12 AM
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hey hey where are the pictures!??!?!?! im really curious now!
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08-15-2003, 07:02 PM
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did he ever finish it ?
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