LS1 price

jeff_dammann · 07-26-2003, 09:29 PM

ok for those of you that have put a LS1 swap into a 96+ s10 how much did the total price end up coming to? EVERYTHING needed...... and how does the truck run after you put it in. Hows the proformance?

JD

V6MaroFL · 07-27-2003, 01:52 PM

Just for the helluva it I'll show you what a buddy of mine paid to swap an LS1 into his v6 camaro, will show you roughly whats needed and the prices of the parts.

engine/tranny/PCM blah blah $3000
used steering rack $100
used radiator $80
used gauge cluster $50
used engine cradle $35
used gas pedal $25
used airlid (aftermarket) $70

total price in parts needed: $3,365
Also will need an allignment after your done and of course the extra $$$ if you have a shop do it.

For the S-10, you'll need a fuel pump and lines, exaust, fans, MAF sensor, 02 sensors, driveshaft. Maybe a few small things I'm forgetting but this is the bulk of it.

RedSpeck_09 · 07-27-2003, 03:25 PM

it depends on if you do it yourself or not. i'd say at least 6-7 grand depending on your year engine and tranny and if you get some else or do it yourself.

v6marofl, i go to fsu too. are you in TMCA?

V6MaroFL · 07-28-2003, 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by RedSpeck_09
v6marofl, i go to fsu too. are you in TMCA?

No actually I haven't moved there yet, I'll be up there in a couple weeks for fall semester. I'm not in the muscle car association but it sounds like something worth looking into.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 01:27 PM

Not including the truck we put about 6k-7k in parts. And thats with making out own harness and keeping the stock manifolds.

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 03:15 PM

hey peko, what radiator did you use?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 08:07 PM

We took some measurements and called Griffin

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 08:34 PM

do you think a stock 4.3 radiator would work?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 08:36 PM

Well the reason we took measurements and didnt just order one from a company that does conversions is because there isnt much room in front. So we took measurements and ordered one that fits in the radiator core support, not behind. SO we had room for the intake and fans.

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 08:49 PM

If i buy a LS1 off ebay is there a chance that there is going to be somthing wrong with it? How would i know?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 08:52 PM

Me Personally would never buy one off the computer, especially used. You never know what your getting. Im not saying there arent good ones out there I just wouldnt take the chance. If you dont want to buy them in a crate from the dealer do what we did. Find a crashed F-Body, or Vette if you can. You could buy the whole car for 3k, well depending on the mileage and condition.

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 08:55 PM

how do i get that P.O.S to my house? its going to cost alot. F-Body? Firebird?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 08:57 PM

Camaros and Firebirds are F-Bodies. Find one close by and if you dont know someone with a trailer, youll have to get it trailered or towed to your house

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 08:58 PM

is it a pain in the ass in install the LS1?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:00 PM

Yeah it was. But worth it GO to the thread called LS1!!!!!!!!! in V8 Discussion. Thats the swap me and a friend did

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 09:01 PM

well, i bought mine off of ebay. paid right at 4 with shipping. its a 2000 TA with 45K. it also has the t56. you can get one a little cheaper if you get the auto.

peko, could you give me some measurements you used? i haven't put the engine in yet but i need to go ahead and order some parts.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:03 PM

We paid just about 3k for the whole car, Crashed of course. ANd had less miles than yours does.

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:04 PM

where do u have the battery? i saw some pictures of a ls1 install and u have to take off the whole front eh? is there much room for a supercharger?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:05 PM

Battery is in the stock location, And I see everyone taking there front end off. We took the hood off and thats it. I think Lees High Tech may be coming out with a supercharger for the LS1/S10 conversion. But ill tell you that there isnt alot of room at all.,

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:07 PM

not like you need it right? with the super charger you would need new tires every night

So how much did the whole job cost you? from start to finish in cluding everything, even the LS1 mods.

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:08 PM

How is the traction afterwards? i assum i have to do some traction bars. and maybe more?

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 09:08 PM

i couldn't find any local and i had to get started on the project. i took my front end off because i needed room. there isn't much room in my garage to work. i just got my engine out the other day. i'm in the parts stage. know anybody with some stock 98-99 headers?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:09 PM

Truck and everything. About 10k. Again we saved about $1,500 - $2,000 on the harness and headers since we used the stock manifolds and made the harness. And we work at a GM dealer so get the parts for cheap.

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 09:11 PM

wanna hook me up with the parts i need?

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:12 PM

GM Dealer !!! ahhrgh ...... i have the truck already, how much for the LS1 conversion i ment.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:14 PM

Traction.... Whats that? Were still working on that one. Well the truck was 3k,

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 09:16 PM

i'm hoping that with my 4 link i'll have at least a little bit of traction

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:16 PM

ok so about 6k. And how does it drive? Awsome? hows the MPG? not that im worried, i dont pay for gas.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:19 PM

Runs nice and smooth. As for the Miles we dont know really. Dont drive it everyday. Definitely a sleeper intil u start it up. We are estimating about 400hp

RedSpeck_09 · 07-29-2003, 09:36 PM

hey peko, what year is that truck?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 09:37 PM

jeff_dammann · 07-29-2003, 09:49 PM

and u got it for 3 k? damn, The chevy dealer ripped my dad off for a 96 for 7 1/2k 78 k miles

sham · 07-29-2003, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by RedSpeck_09
i couldn't find any local and i had to get started on the project. i took my front end off because i needed room. there isn't much room in my garage to work. i just got my engine out the other day. i'm in the parts stage. know anybody with some stock 98-99 headers?

I see you found it !!!!! hahahaha

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tegory=33 631

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 10:26 PM

96, reg cab short bed, 2.2L, 5 speed, no AC, 96k

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 10:26 PM

Hey Sham Hows the truck coming?

sham · 07-29-2003, 10:35 PM

pretty good. still waiting on the harness to come back. I can't put the pass manifold on until I get the wiring . got all of the drivers side completed (steering,manifold,plugs, wires,fuel, brakes,throttle, cruise...) maybe it will come in this week and I can start it this weekend sometime.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 10:37 PM

Using the stock manifolds? And why didnt you just make the harness? Save you alot of money

sham · 07-29-2003, 10:44 PM

I thought about it but I wanted alot of stuff bypassed like the vats and I wanted to be able to use all the factory gauges (late model has class 2 serial data gauges) and he re wires the harness to a 4 wire hookup plus your a/c and fans.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 10:54 PM

We bypassed all that. Had the computer programmed by Street & Performance, Factory gauges, Skip Shift, Whole 9 yards

sham · 07-29-2003, 10:59 PM

no reprogramming is required with this harness . I still have the pcm.$385 and ship him the harness. for that price, I had to give it a try!

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 11:00 PM

We just spent $95 on programming and thats it

sham · 07-29-2003, 11:02 PM

no shit ! yours is a 98 model though isnt it?

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 11:04 PM

sham · 07-29-2003, 11:05 PM

the motor

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 11:06 PM

yeah 98, the computer was programmed awhile ago for an automatic, we just had it re-done for $95

sham · 07-29-2003, 11:14 PM

98 harnesses are completly different. you can pypass alot of stuff easier . thats why alot of wiring companies only sell 98 harnesses. T.P.I.S. thought they were all the same until I ordered one back in 2000 for my blazer and tried to hook it up on a 99! half of the connectors are different and the pcm connectors are in different places. hell, they had hot wires going where ground wires were suppose to be. on the pcm. I called them and they had no clue they were different. thats why it took painless so long to come out with their harness.

PEKO · 07-29-2003, 11:17 PM

Honestly it isnt that complicated. Did you see the pics of the Conversion in the 59 Cadillac? Thats a brand new GM crate motor and the harness was made by my buddy. The harness for the S10 took about a week, and the Cadillac maybe a little longer. Just open the repair manuals and start splicing

sham · 07-29-2003, 11:30 PM

Im more worried about the gauges being right then anything.

jeff_dammann · 07-30-2003, 12:55 AM

the LS1 is harder to install lin the 2.2, i have the 4.3.

BlaZeR2 · 07-30-2003, 02:20 AM

Sham, where did you send your harness?

07-26-2003, 09:29 PM	#1
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	LS1 price ok for those of you that have put a LS1 swap into a 96+ s10 how much did the total price end up coming to? EVERYTHING needed...... and how does the truck run after you put it in. Hows the proformance? JD
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07-27-2003, 01:52 PM	#2
V6MaroFL Make Way for the Bad Guy Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 821 Location: Tallahassee, FL (FSU) User is: OffLine	Just for the helluva it I'll show you what a buddy of mine paid to swap an LS1 into his v6 camaro, will show you roughly whats needed and the prices of the parts. engine/tranny/PCM blah blah $3000 used steering rack $100 used radiator $80 used gauge cluster $50 used engine cradle $35 used gas pedal $25 used airlid (aftermarket) $70 total price in parts needed: $3,365 Also will need an allignment after your done and of course the extra $$$ if you have a shop do it. For the S-10, you'll need a fuel pump and lines, exaust, fans, MAF sensor, 02 sensors, driveshaft. Maybe a few small things I'm forgetting but this is the bulk of it. Last edited by V6MaroFL : 07-27-2003 at 02:00 PM.
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07-27-2003, 03:25 PM	#3
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	it depends on if you do it yourself or not. i'd say at least 6-7 grand depending on your year engine and tranny and if you get some else or do it yourself. v6marofl, i go to fsu too. are you in TMCA?
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07-28-2003, 11:11 PM	#4
V6MaroFL Make Way for the Bad Guy Age: 26 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 821 Location: Tallahassee, FL (FSU) User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by RedSpeck_09 v6marofl, i go to fsu too. are you in TMCA? No actually I haven't moved there yet, I'll be up there in a couple weeks for fall semester. I'm not in the muscle car association but it sounds like something worth looking into.
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07-29-2003, 01:27 PM	#5
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Not including the truck we put about 6k-7k in parts. And thats with making out own harness and keeping the stock manifolds.
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07-29-2003, 03:15 PM	#6
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	hey peko, what radiator did you use?
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07-29-2003, 08:07 PM	#7
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	We took some measurements and called Griffin
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07-29-2003, 08:34 PM	#8
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	do you think a stock 4.3 radiator would work?
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07-29-2003, 08:36 PM	#9
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Well the reason we took measurements and didnt just order one from a company that does conversions is because there isnt much room in front. So we took measurements and ordered one that fits in the radiator core support, not behind. SO we had room for the intake and fans.
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07-29-2003, 08:49 PM	#10
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	If i buy a LS1 off ebay is there a chance that there is going to be somthing wrong with it? How would i know?
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07-29-2003, 08:52 PM	#11
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Me Personally would never buy one off the computer, especially used. You never know what your getting. Im not saying there arent good ones out there I just wouldnt take the chance. If you dont want to buy them in a crate from the dealer do what we did. Find a crashed F-Body, or Vette if you can. You could buy the whole car for 3k, well depending on the mileage and condition.
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07-29-2003, 08:55 PM	#12
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	how do i get that P.O.S to my house? its going to cost alot. F-Body? Firebird?
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07-29-2003, 08:57 PM	#13
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Camaros and Firebirds are F-Bodies. Find one close by and if you dont know someone with a trailer, youll have to get it trailered or towed to your house
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07-29-2003, 08:58 PM	#14
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	is it a pain in the ass in install the LS1?
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07-29-2003, 09:00 PM	#15
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Yeah it was. But worth it GO to the thread called LS1!!!!!!!!! in V8 Discussion. Thats the swap me and a friend did
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07-29-2003, 09:01 PM	#16
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	well, i bought mine off of ebay. paid right at 4 with shipping. its a 2000 TA with 45K. it also has the t56. you can get one a little cheaper if you get the auto. peko, could you give me some measurements you used? i haven't put the engine in yet but i need to go ahead and order some parts.
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07-29-2003, 09:03 PM	#17
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	We paid just about 3k for the whole car, Crashed of course. ANd had less miles than yours does.
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07-29-2003, 09:04 PM	#18
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	where do u have the battery? i saw some pictures of a ls1 install and u have to take off the whole front eh? is there much room for a supercharger?
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07-29-2003, 09:05 PM	#19
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Battery is in the stock location, And I see everyone taking there front end off. We took the hood off and thats it. I think Lees High Tech may be coming out with a supercharger for the LS1/S10 conversion. But ill tell you that there isnt alot of room at all.,
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07-29-2003, 09:07 PM	#20
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	not like you need it right? with the super charger you would need new tires every night So how much did the whole job cost you? from start to finish in cluding everything, even the LS1 mods.
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07-29-2003, 09:08 PM	#21
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	How is the traction afterwards? i assum i have to do some traction bars. and maybe more?
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07-29-2003, 09:09 PM	#23
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Truck and everything. About 10k. Again we saved about $1,500 - $2,000 on the harness and headers since we used the stock manifolds and made the harness. And we work at a GM dealer so get the parts for cheap.
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07-29-2003, 09:11 PM	#24
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	wanna hook me up with the parts i need?
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07-29-2003, 09:12 PM	#25
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	GM Dealer !!! ahhrgh ...... i have the truck already, how much for the LS1 conversion i ment.
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07-29-2003, 09:14 PM	#26
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Traction.... Whats that? Were still working on that one. Well the truck was 3k,
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07-29-2003, 09:16 PM	#27
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	i'm hoping that with my 4 link i'll have at least a little bit of traction
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07-29-2003, 09:19 PM	#29
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Runs nice and smooth. As for the Miles we dont know really. Dont drive it everyday. Definitely a sleeper intil u start it up. We are estimating about 400hp
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07-29-2003, 09:36 PM	#30
RedSpeck_09 weatherman Age: 26 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,194 Location: pensacola/tallahassee User is: OffLine	hey peko, what year is that truck?
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07-29-2003, 09:37 PM	#31
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	96
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07-29-2003, 09:49 PM	#32
jeff_dammann CHANGE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS Age: 24 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 314 Location: IL User is: OffLine	and u got it for 3 k? damn, The chevy dealer ripped my dad off for a 96 for 7 1/2k 78 k miles
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07-29-2003, 10:08 PM	#33
sham Z06 S10 Age: 38 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 407 Location: User is: OffLine	Quote: Originally posted by RedSpeck_09 i couldn't find any local and i had to get started on the project. i took my front end off because i needed room. there isn't much room in my garage to work. i just got my engine out the other day. i'm in the parts stage. know anybody with some stock 98-99 headers? I see you found it !!!!! hahahaha http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tegory=33 631
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07-29-2003, 10:26 PM	#34
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	96, reg cab short bed, 2.2L, 5 speed, no AC, 96k
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07-29-2003, 10:35 PM	#36
sham Z06 S10 Age: 38 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 407 Location: User is: OffLine	pretty good. still waiting on the harness to come back. I can't put the pass manifold on until I get the wiring . got all of the drivers side completed (steering,manifold,plugs, wires,fuel, brakes,throttle, cruise...) maybe it will come in this week and I can start it this weekend sometime. Last edited by sham : 07-29-2003 at 10:36 PM.
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07-29-2003, 10:37 PM	#37
PEKO Strictly Domestic Age: 31 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,844 Location: Hudson Co, NJ User is: OffLine	Using the stock manifolds? And why didnt you just make the harness? Save you alot of money
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07-29-2003, 10:44 PM	#38
sham Z06 S10 Age: 38 Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 407 Location: User is: OffLine	I thought about it but I wanted alot of stuff bypassed like the vats and I wanted to be able to use all the factory gauges (late model has class 2 serial data gauges) and he re wires the harness to a 4 wire hookup plus your a/c and fans.
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