ideas on winter upgrades

ls1s10onair · 09-22-2009, 09:22 AM

Hey guys! Im looking for a big upgrade to do this winter.... ive been tossing around a few ideas...

1. A full top end kit, like the trick flow 515 hp package, or slp
2. custom turbo setup, but im so unfamiliar with turbos
3. procharger, but i don't wanna spend 5k on a kit, when ur paying for r & d and it isnt gonna fit

i know this question gets thrown around a lot, but i really wanna do it, and im unsure of what will be the most cost-effective/worth while.... id like to cap the budget at 5k

**S-10MASTER** · 09-22-2009, 09:56 AM

I say go for the top end kit man. You can worry about a turbo later down the road.

ls1s10onair · 09-22-2009, 09:59 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by S-10MASTER

I say go for the top end kit man. You can worry about a turbo later down the road.

yea, i kinda feel the same way, but at all of those being close to 5k, i just wanna go the best route.... doubtful itll get boost if i do the top end kit... im basically looking for an 11 second street truck, thats at least semi-reliable lol

**S-10MASTER** · 09-22-2009, 10:01 AM

ah I see. I still say got for the top end kit. fvck it.

MeltingPlastic · 09-22-2009, 10:21 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

yea, i kinda feel the same way, but at all of those being close to 5k, i just wanna go the best route.... doubtful itll get boost if i do the top end kit... im basically looking for an 11 second street truck, thats at least semi-reliable lol

that would mean you have to drive the thing LOL

CODE4LS1 · 09-22-2009, 10:58 AM

Heads/cam no question

ls1s10onair · 09-22-2009, 11:28 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic

that would mean you have to drive the thing LOL

Hey! My swap was completed late march i think, and ive got 2500 miles on it

ls1s10onair · 09-22-2009, 11:30 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by CODE4LS1

Heads/cam no question

any ideas other than the trick flow kit? id like to buy a full setup, but the trick flow cam is a little tame

zx9rgreen · 09-22-2009, 12:55 PM

Heads, Cam, Fast, LT......

XtremeRacer11 · 09-22-2009, 04:10 PM

agree with zx9green...heads, cam, fast intake and tb, LT, u/d pulley, also u'll need a stall to match the cam if you have an a4 tranny...that will get u the 11s your looking for and will keep the streetability...i'm shooting for the same goal...i have the cam, just need the heads, fast setup, LT and pulley...but the pulley and heads will be coming next summer...Good Luck...

zx9rgreen · 09-22-2009, 04:41 PM

Well you are going to need some traction aid also. My ET's worsened after my FAST intake install even though my trap speeds increased 3~4mph. The reason is no traction. So in my opinion, planting the power you have is more important than loads of power that you cant use.

CODE4LS1 · 09-22-2009, 04:44 PM

Do a quick search on West Coast Cylinder Heads. Talk to Richard. He's a master machinist and prices for his stage II heads are very reasonable.

ls1s10onair · 09-22-2009, 04:51 PM

how necessary are the lt's? believe me, i get the point of it and all, but im wondering if i can get away with shorties and a good exhaust system for now.... this is gonna be enough $$.... id rather not dump another 1,000+ into re-doing the exhaust, and long tubes.... and zx9rgreen, i dont know what more traction items i can get with a 3 link in the rear.... unless you mean tire, cuz thats a given

zx9rgreen · 09-22-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

how necessary are the lt's? believe me, i get the point of it and all, but im wondering if i can get away with shorties and a good exhaust system for now.... this is gonna be enough $$.... id rather not dump another 1,000+ into re-doing the exhaust, and long tubes.... and zx9rgreen, i dont know what more traction items i can get with a 3 link in the rear.... unless you mean tire, cuz thats a given

Yea I was meaning tires....I would recommend something like ET streets since your an M6. I havent been able to get Drag Radials to work for me. I'm on the shorties with my combo that makes good power and carrys pretty good IMO.

bitchin sonoma · 09-22-2009, 10:01 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Hey guys! Im looking for a big upgrade to do this winter.... ive been tossing around a few ideas...

1. A full top end kit, like the trick flow 515 hp package, or slp
2. custom turbo setup, but im so unfamiliar with turbos
3. procharger, but i don't wanna spend 5k on a kit, when ur paying for r & d and it isnt gonna fit

i know this question gets thrown around a lot, but i really wanna do it, and im unsure of what will be the most cost-effective/worth while.... id like to cap the budget at 5k

yeah save more money and get the top end,i bougth a procharger for mine and will be installed this winter.

Petro · 09-22-2009, 10:22 PM

Sell the LS1 ....Take that money plus the 5k and buy a built motor....

ls1s10onair · 09-23-2009, 11:58 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen

Yea I was meaning tires....I would recommend something like ET streets since your an M6. I havent been able to get Drag Radials to work for me. I'm on the shorties with my combo that makes good power and carrys pretty good IMO.

what tires do you have with yours?

ls1s10onair · 09-25-2009, 09:10 PM

ok guys.... i spoke with someone from vengeance racing, and they suggested a very appealing setup. I gotta thank Black X, and Philintx, because they suggested this to me months ago.... Ok, here's what im going with...

Trick Flow 220cc heads
VRX4 cam
Comp Pro Magnum RR's
FAST 92mm intake
Billet 92 mm Throttle body
28 lb injectors (stock, but mine are 26's)
all related gaskets, crank bolt, etc. etc

with any luck, that should add up to my 11 second pass that i want.... and they gave me what sounds like a sick deal, @ $3600 shipped

zx9rgreen · 09-25-2009, 09:20 PM

Thats a good price and sounds like a nice setup. Dont you have to run aftermarket rocker arms with those heads? I dont see that on your list and head bolts are torque to yeild so you need those too. Also is that fast going to be ported?

To answer your question in the earlier post....I am running MT ET Street Radials ....255.50.16
I'm going to swap to the ET Streets

ls1s10onair · 09-25-2009, 10:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen

Thats a good price and sounds like a nice setup. Dont you have to run aftermarket rocker arms with those heads? I dont see that on your list and head bolts are torque to yeild so you need those too. Also is that fast going to be ported?

To answer your question in the earlier post....I am running MT ET Street Radials ....255.50.16
I'm going to swap to the ET Streets

Yea, the Comp Pro Magnum's.... and yes, you do have to run aftermarket roller rockers... I threw the ARP head bolts into the "etc" lol... Hmmm...... i wanna get the ET Streets, too.... but i might get a pair of weld draglites or something for the rear, cuz i have no more stock wheels lol

Petro · 09-25-2009, 10:12 PM

I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice.

bitchin sonoma · 09-25-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice.

i am liking your idea!!

zx9rgreen · 09-25-2009, 10:18 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Yea, the Comp Pro Magnum's.... and yes, you do have to run aftermarket roller rockers... I threw the ARP head bolts into the "etc" lol... Hmmm...... i wanna get the ET Streets, too.... but i might get a pair of weld draglites or something for the rear, cuz i have no more stock wheels lol

Well Duh! I totally missed the RR in your list. That seems like a really good price for everything you are getting.

I'll be anxioulsy awaiting the results if you go with that setup.

ls1s10onair · 09-25-2009, 10:54 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen

Well Duh! I totally missed the RR in your list. That seems like a really good price for everything you are getting.

I'll be anxioulsy awaiting the results if you go with that setup.

Im definitely doing it as of the moment... i have til the 30th to order it to get that price, and i figure ill wind up doing it anyway, so why not now lol.... according to the guys at vengeance, with a tune, i should be just peaking just over 500 rwhp

s10dollar · 09-25-2009, 11:04 PM

6.2 new camaro motor??? its defferent kinda

zx9rgreen · 09-25-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Im definitely doing it as of the moment... i have til the 30th to order it to get that price, and i figure ill wind up doing it anyway, so why not now lol.... according to the guys at vengeance, with a tune, i should be just peaking just over 500 rwhp

Keeping the shorty headers?

When I went to the dyno day a few weeks ago, a guy had a GTO that was done by Vengance. Same heads, intake, and a little larger cam, LTs in a stalled auto and he put down 455rwhp but less trq than me. So with a a M6 you should have a very nice setup. I'll be awaiting 1/4 traps to compare with my budget build.

ls1s10onair · 09-26-2009, 08:47 AM

well, youll have to be waiting for a while lol.... ill get the parts, but im gonna drive the truck til its too cold, then im tearing it apart....

llorracs93s10 · 09-26-2009, 09:52 AM

Hey man, listen to petro, and ditch the ls1....tahn u can hand it over to me so i can get rid of my pile of fun!

generics10 · 09-26-2009, 10:29 AM

All that horsepower will be fun and it will get you some high traps. You might still be disapointed in the et though. Im not sure you can get a good enough 60' on your rear set up. Those air springs have alot different spring rate than leaves or coils. Maybe save a couple hundred for some double adj rear shocks??? Do you have the ability to adjust your pinion angle with the old style 3 link?

ls1s10onair · 09-26-2009, 11:17 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by generics10

All that horsepower will be fun and it will get you some high traps. You might still be disapointed in the et though. Im not sure you can get a good enough 60' on your rear set up. Those air springs have alot different spring rate than leaves or coils. Maybe save a couple hundred for some double adj rear shocks??? Do you have the ability to adjust your pinion angle with the old style 3 link?

yes i can change the pinion angle, and to be honest, the first time i ever took this truck to the track, i had 3 runs, and experimented with launching it... my second run, on half-bald toyo proxes 4's was a 2.175.... it actually left the line very nicely.... i dont really have traction issues as it is, but im getting et streets, so i dont think the 60' will be too bad at all....

and lloracs93s10, im ignoring that lol

llorracs93s10 · 09-26-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

yes i can change the pinion angle, and to be honest, the first time i ever took this truck to the track, i had 3 runs, and experimented with launching it... my second run, on half-bald toyo proxes 4's was a 2.175.... it actually left the line very nicely.... i dont really have traction issues as it is, but im getting et streets, so i dont think the 60' will be too bad at all....

and lloracs93s10, im ignoring that lol

must be nice....

and why u ignoring that comment?

The Stunningman · 09-26-2009, 01:10 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Petro

I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice.

x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point.

llorracs93s10 · 09-26-2009, 01:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by The Stunningman

x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point.

Yes sir and like stated before, i would gladly take that ls1/t56 and all off ur hands

ls1s10onair · 09-26-2009, 01:44 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by The Stunningman

x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point.

Mainly, because of the fact that this motor gives me no issues whatsoever.... and its been in my truck for 6 months.... im not getting a new motor every year.... id be plenty happy with 450ish to the wheels reliably, so i see no need to buy another engine. it makes close to no sense to me

llorracs93s10 · 09-26-2009, 02:25 PM

Damn it.....

ls1s10onair · 09-26-2009, 02:47 PM

lol sorry..... you cant honestly wanna swap the motor after all you've gone through with yours to get it right

llorracs93s10 · 09-26-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

lol sorry..... you cant honestly wanna swap the motor after all you've gone through with yours to get it right

it has never been right since i put it in....thats why. And u should know since u had both, which is better, honestly?

zx9rgreen · 09-26-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Mainly, because of the fact that this motor gives me no issues whatsoever.... and its been in my truck for 6 months.... im not getting a new motor every year.... id be plenty happy with 450ish to the wheels reliably, so i see no need to buy another engine. it makes close to no sense to me

I agree....

ls1s10onair · 09-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen

I agree....

Thanks

...... no offense to anyone, but it seems like everyone always knows EXACTLY what to do with MY money

The Stunningman · 09-26-2009, 11:50 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Thanks ...... no offense to anyone, but it seems like everyone always knows EXACTLY what to do with MY money

Looks to me like you asked for opinions. You got them.

I'm sure your job will be easier making 450 to the wheels with the LS1 than the 6.0 I/We recommend

. Good Luck..

The Stunningman · 09-26-2009, 11:53 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

Yes sir and like stated before, i would gladly take that ls1/t56 and all off ur hands

You read where I said ditch the T56? Stop dreaming like that man its not good for you.

The Stunningman · 09-27-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

Mainly, because of the fact that this motor gives me no issues whatsoever.... and its been in my truck for 6 months.... im not getting a new motor every year.... id be plenty happy with 450ish to the wheels reliably, so i see no need to buy another engine. it makes close to no sense to me

did someone recommend you get a new engine every year? I missed that post. Sorry. You have 450'ish to the wheels?

ls1s10onair · 09-27-2009, 05:36 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by The Stunningman

did someone recommend you get a new engine every year? I missed that post. Sorry. You have 450'ish to the wheels?

ill tell ya what.... i did ask for opinions.... upon 3 different options... you arent helping here, so dont pick a fight with someone who isnt asking for your advice. thanks

dart_06 · 09-27-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

ok guys.... i spoke with someone from vengeance racing, and they suggested a very appealing setup. I gotta thank Black X, and Philintx, because they suggested this to me months ago.... Ok, here's what im going with...

Trick Flow 220cc heads
VRX4 cam
Comp Pro Magnum RR's
FAST 92mm intake
Billet 92 mm Throttle body
28 lb injectors (stock, but mine are 26's)
all related gaskets, crank bolt, etc. etc

with any luck, that should add up to my 11 second pass that i want.... and they gave me what sounds like a sick deal, @ $3600 shipped

sounds like a great deal for all that!!

llorracs93s10 · 09-27-2009, 07:45 PM

Id say just build the motor and ditch the S/C or T/C'd setups. They played out, lol.

Seriously though, why dont you bring that truck down this way so i can see it in person before you tear into it?

ls1s10onair · 09-27-2009, 09:27 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by dart_06

sounds like a great deal for all that!!

yea, thats what i was thinking, but they were really cool guys, and he cut down almost everything.... im ordering it in the morning

ls1s10onair · 09-27-2009, 09:28 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by llorracs93s10

Id say just build the motor and ditch the S/C or T/C'd setups. They played out, lol.

Seriously though, why dont you bring that truck down this way so i can see it in person before you tear into it?

ive got no free time for that.... sorry.... but i basically have ditched the idea of boost.... id really just like to have a streetable 11 second truck....

zx9rgreen · 09-27-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

ive got no free time for that.... sorry.... but i basically have ditched the idea of boost.... id really just like to have a streetable 11 second truck....

We will all probaby end up as BlackX has...LOL getting faster and more power every year. His truck has progressed into a monster over the many years I have been on here. (Also take note that Phil and Sweet are both in the quest for more power as well)

You will be satisfied for a little while and then the power bug will bite you in the arse again. I am planning to go turbo possibly in the next year or two if I don't get a C5/C6 first. I am where I wanted to be with my truck with the goals I set in place less than a year ago. But, I have the spray to hook back up to satisfy that need for more power but then that will get boring and then.........

llorracs93s10 · 09-27-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair

ive got no free time for that.... sorry.... but i basically have ditched the idea of boost.... id really just like to have a streetable 11 second truck....

shit i wish icould get a streetable 12second truck out of mine....

Petro · 09-27-2009, 10:22 PM

X2 zx9rgreen^^^ I haven't even finshed building mine or installed it and I'm bored....hahaha...Now I'm having dreams of building a stroked 408 or bigger motor for a Drag Blazer....Good luck on the upgrades man...I will be looking forward to them....

09-22-2009, 09:22 AM	#1
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	ideas on winter upgrades Hey guys! Im looking for a big upgrade to do this winter.... ive been tossing around a few ideas... 1. A full top end kit, like the trick flow 515 hp package, or slp 2. custom turbo setup, but im so unfamiliar with turbos 3. procharger, but i don't wanna spend 5k on a kit, when ur paying for r & d and it isnt gonna fit i know this question gets thrown around a lot, but i really wanna do it, and im unsure of what will be the most cost-effective/worth while.... id like to cap the budget at 5k
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09-22-2009, 09:56 AM	#2
S-10MASTER You can't say **** Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,134 Location: 26.34°N 127.78°E -39.96Ft. User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades I say go for the top end kit man. You can worry about a turbo later down the road.
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09-22-2009, 09:59 AM	#3
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by S-10MASTER I say go for the top end kit man. You can worry about a turbo later down the road. yea, i kinda feel the same way, but at all of those being close to 5k, i just wanna go the best route.... doubtful itll get boost if i do the top end kit... im basically looking for an 11 second street truck, thats at least semi-reliable lol
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09-22-2009, 10:01 AM	#4
S-10MASTER You can't say **** Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,134 Location: 26.34°N 127.78°E -39.96Ft. User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades ah I see. I still say got for the top end kit. fvck it.
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09-22-2009, 10:21 AM	#5
MeltingPlastic Broken Handed Superman Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 5,640 Location: Hackensack, NJ User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair yea, i kinda feel the same way, but at all of those being close to 5k, i just wanna go the best route.... doubtful itll get boost if i do the top end kit... im basically looking for an 11 second street truck, thats at least semi-reliable lol that would mean you have to drive the thing LOL
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09-22-2009, 10:58 AM	#6
CODE4LS1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 516 Location: Issaquah, WA User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Heads/cam no question
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09-22-2009, 11:28 AM	#7
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by MeltingPlastic that would mean you have to drive the thing LOL Hey! My swap was completed late march i think, and ive got 2500 miles on it
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09-22-2009, 11:30 AM	#8
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by CODE4LS1 Heads/cam no question any ideas other than the trick flow kit? id like to buy a full setup, but the trick flow cam is a little tame
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09-22-2009, 12:55 PM	#9
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Heads, Cam, Fast, LT......
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09-22-2009, 04:10 PM	#10
XtremeRacer11 Registered User Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 209 Location: Harlingen, Texas User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades agree with zx9green...heads, cam, fast intake and tb, LT, u/d pulley, also u'll need a stall to match the cam if you have an a4 tranny...that will get u the 11s your looking for and will keep the streetability...i'm shooting for the same goal...i have the cam, just need the heads, fast setup, LT and pulley...but the pulley and heads will be coming next summer...Good Luck... Last edited by XtremeRacer11 : 09-22-2009 at 04:12 PM.
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09-22-2009, 04:41 PM	#11
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Well you are going to need some traction aid also. My ET's worsened after my FAST intake install even though my trap speeds increased 3~4mph. The reason is no traction. So in my opinion, planting the power you have is more important than loads of power that you cant use.
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09-22-2009, 04:44 PM	#12
CODE4LS1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 516 Location: Issaquah, WA User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Do a quick search on West Coast Cylinder Heads. Talk to Richard. He's a master machinist and prices for his stage II heads are very reasonable.
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09-22-2009, 04:51 PM	#13
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades how necessary are the lt's? believe me, i get the point of it and all, but im wondering if i can get away with shorties and a good exhaust system for now.... this is gonna be enough $$.... id rather not dump another 1,000+ into re-doing the exhaust, and long tubes.... and zx9rgreen, i dont know what more traction items i can get with a 3 link in the rear.... unless you mean tire, cuz thats a given
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09-22-2009, 06:13 PM	#14
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair how necessary are the lt's? believe me, i get the point of it and all, but im wondering if i can get away with shorties and a good exhaust system for now.... this is gonna be enough $$.... id rather not dump another 1,000+ into re-doing the exhaust, and long tubes.... and zx9rgreen, i dont know what more traction items i can get with a 3 link in the rear.... unless you mean tire, cuz thats a given Yea I was meaning tires....I would recommend something like ET streets since your an M6. I havent been able to get Drag Radials to work for me. I'm on the shorties with my combo that makes good power and carrys pretty good IMO.
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09-22-2009, 10:01 PM	#15
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,589 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair Hey guys! Im looking for a big upgrade to do this winter.... ive been tossing around a few ideas... 1. A full top end kit, like the trick flow 515 hp package, or slp 2. custom turbo setup, but im so unfamiliar with turbos 3. procharger, but i don't wanna spend 5k on a kit, when ur paying for r & d and it isnt gonna fit i know this question gets thrown around a lot, but i really wanna do it, and im unsure of what will be the most cost-effective/worth while.... id like to cap the budget at 5k yeah save more money and get the top end,i bougth a procharger for mine and will be installed this winter.
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09-22-2009, 10:22 PM	#16
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Sell the LS1 ....Take that money plus the 5k and buy a built motor....
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09-23-2009, 11:58 AM	#17
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen Yea I was meaning tires....I would recommend something like ET streets since your an M6. I havent been able to get Drag Radials to work for me. I'm on the shorties with my combo that makes good power and carrys pretty good IMO. what tires do you have with yours?
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09-25-2009, 09:10 PM	#18
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades ok guys.... i spoke with someone from vengeance racing, and they suggested a very appealing setup. I gotta thank Black X, and Philintx, because they suggested this to me months ago.... Ok, here's what im going with... Trick Flow 220cc heads VRX4 cam Comp Pro Magnum RR's FAST 92mm intake Billet 92 mm Throttle body 28 lb injectors (stock, but mine are 26's) all related gaskets, crank bolt, etc. etc with any luck, that should add up to my 11 second pass that i want.... and they gave me what sounds like a sick deal, @ $3600 shipped
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09-25-2009, 09:20 PM	#19
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Thats a good price and sounds like a nice setup. Dont you have to run aftermarket rocker arms with those heads? I dont see that on your list and head bolts are torque to yeild so you need those too. Also is that fast going to be ported? To answer your question in the earlier post....I am running MT ET Street Radials ....255.50.16 I'm going to swap to the ET Streets Last edited by zx9rgreen : 09-25-2009 at 09:27 PM.
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09-25-2009, 10:06 PM	#20
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen Thats a good price and sounds like a nice setup. Dont you have to run aftermarket rocker arms with those heads? I dont see that on your list and head bolts are torque to yeild so you need those too. Also is that fast going to be ported? To answer your question in the earlier post....I am running MT ET Street Radials ....255.50.16 I'm going to swap to the ET Streets Yea, the Comp Pro Magnum's.... and yes, you do have to run aftermarket roller rockers... I threw the ARP head bolts into the "etc" lol... Hmmm...... i wanna get the ET Streets, too.... but i might get a pair of weld draglites or something for the rear, cuz i have no more stock wheels lol
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09-25-2009, 10:12 PM	#21
Petro Killing Time Age: 25 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 2,999 Location: Sadr City , Iraq User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice.
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09-25-2009, 10:16 PM	#22
bitchin sonoma he,he,he project over kil Age: 25 Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,589 Location: Benton harbor, Michigan User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by Petro I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice. i am liking your idea!!
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09-25-2009, 10:18 PM	#23
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair Yea, the Comp Pro Magnum's.... and yes, you do have to run aftermarket roller rockers... I threw the ARP head bolts into the "etc" lol... Hmmm...... i wanna get the ET Streets, too.... but i might get a pair of weld draglites or something for the rear, cuz i have no more stock wheels lol Well Duh! I totally missed the RR in your list. That seems like a really good price for everything you are getting. I'll be anxioulsy awaiting the results if you go with that setup.
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09-25-2009, 10:54 PM	#24
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by zx9rgreen Well Duh! I totally missed the RR in your list. That seems like a really good price for everything you are getting. I'll be anxioulsy awaiting the results if you go with that setup. Im definitely doing it as of the moment... i have til the 30th to order it to get that price, and i figure ill wind up doing it anyway, so why not now lol.... according to the guys at vengeance, with a tune, i should be just peaking just over 500 rwhp
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09-25-2009, 11:04 PM	#25
s10dollar Registered User Age: 21 Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 515 Location: Blue Springs User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades 6.2 new camaro motor??? its defferent kinda
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09-25-2009, 11:06 PM	#26
zx9rgreen On da bottle Age: 32 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,239 Location: Wetumpka, AL User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair Im definitely doing it as of the moment... i have til the 30th to order it to get that price, and i figure ill wind up doing it anyway, so why not now lol.... according to the guys at vengeance, with a tune, i should be just peaking just over 500 rwhp Keeping the shorty headers? When I went to the dyno day a few weeks ago, a guy had a GTO that was done by Vengance. Same heads, intake, and a little larger cam, LTs in a stalled auto and he put down 455rwhp but less trq than me. So with a a M6 you should have a very nice setup. I'll be awaiting 1/4 traps to compare with my budget build.
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09-26-2009, 08:47 AM	#27
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades well, youll have to be waiting for a while lol.... ill get the parts, but im gonna drive the truck til its too cold, then im tearing it apart....
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09-26-2009, 09:52 AM	#28
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,203 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Hey man, listen to petro, and ditch the ls1....tahn u can hand it over to me so i can get rid of my pile of fun!
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09-26-2009, 10:29 AM	#29
generics10 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 266 Location: columbia city, indiana User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades All that horsepower will be fun and it will get you some high traps. You might still be disapointed in the et though. Im not sure you can get a good enough 60' on your rear set up. Those air springs have alot different spring rate than leaves or coils. Maybe save a couple hundred for some double adj rear shocks??? Do you have the ability to adjust your pinion angle with the old style 3 link?
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09-26-2009, 11:17 AM	#30
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by generics10 All that horsepower will be fun and it will get you some high traps. You might still be disapointed in the et though. Im not sure you can get a good enough 60' on your rear set up. Those air springs have alot different spring rate than leaves or coils. Maybe save a couple hundred for some double adj rear shocks??? Do you have the ability to adjust your pinion angle with the old style 3 link? yes i can change the pinion angle, and to be honest, the first time i ever took this truck to the track, i had 3 runs, and experimented with launching it... my second run, on half-bald toyo proxes 4's was a 2.175.... it actually left the line very nicely.... i dont really have traction issues as it is, but im getting et streets, so i dont think the 60' will be too bad at all.... and lloracs93s10, im ignoring that lol
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09-26-2009, 11:26 AM	#31
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,203 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by ls1s10onair yes i can change the pinion angle, and to be honest, the first time i ever took this truck to the track, i had 3 runs, and experimented with launching it... my second run, on half-bald toyo proxes 4's was a 2.175.... it actually left the line very nicely.... i dont really have traction issues as it is, but im getting et streets, so i dont think the 60' will be too bad at all.... and lloracs93s10, im ignoring that lol must be nice.... and why u ignoring that comment?
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09-26-2009, 01:10 PM	#32
The Stunningman V8 AWD member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,693 Location: User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by Petro I still say sell the ls1 and use that money plus the 5k and purchase a bigger setup exactly how you want it. Plus it we be brand new and last longer. But either way it will be nice. x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point.
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09-26-2009, 01:28 PM	#33
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,203 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by The Stunningman x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point. Yes sir and like stated before, i would gladly take that ls1/t56 and all off ur hands
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09-26-2009, 01:44 PM	#34
ls1s10onair Local Tech Age: 27 Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,488 Location: westwood, nj User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Quote: Originally Posted by The Stunningman x 3. It would be easy just to build a different 6.0 or larger engine and sell the LS1 at decent coin when your ready to do the swap. You could easily build the horsepower you want, well under 5k ,using a LQ9 or even LQ4 as a starting point. Mainly, because of the fact that this motor gives me no issues whatsoever.... and its been in my truck for 6 months.... im not getting a new motor every year.... id be plenty happy with 450ish to the wheels reliably, so i see no need to buy another engine. it makes close to no sense to me
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09-26-2009, 02:25 PM	#35
llorracs93s10 Registered User Age: 22 Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,203 Location: Middletown, DE User is: OffLine	Re: ideas on winter upgrades Damn it.....
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